OT : Mercury Music Award Nominations 2008
Paul Hyett
Adele - '19' #1
British Sea Power - 'Do You Like Rock Music?' #10
Burial - 'Untrue' #121
Elbow - 'The Seldom Seen Kid' #5
Estelle - 'Shine' #6
The Last Shadow Puppets - 'The Age Of The Understatement' #1
Laura Marling - 'Alas I Cannot Swim' #45
Neon Neon - 'Stainless Style' #67
Portico Quartet - 'Knee-Deep In The North Sea' (not T200)
Robert Plant And Alison Krauss – 'Raising Sand' #2
Radiohead - 'In Rainbows' #1
Rachel Unthank And The Winterset – 'The Bairns' (not T200)
Haven't even heard of 4 of these 12 - sometimes I wonder if the
nomination committee pick 3 or 4 albums at random, just to make it look
as if they've earned their money... :)
And - no Duffy or Coldplay??
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Jan Buxton
I've got Burial and Radiohead of this. Would quite like to get the Elbow
one. In Rainbows is a really good record, and would be a deserving
winner, although they will probably go for someone in greater need of
the exposure.
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Jan
JohnB
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I've got Elbow and Rachel Unthank, both good but both would be
flattered by the award. Not many of the rest mean much to me - I've
heard bits of Radiohead, BSP and Plant/Krauss. I do wonder how much
is decided by small brown envelopes stuffed with £20m notes.
Jan Buxton
I'd like just one of those £20m notes! :-)
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Jan
Chris Brown
"Paul Hyett" <vidc...@invalid83261.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Here are the nominations plus their chart peaks (so far).
>
> Adele - '19' #1
> British Sea Power - 'Do You Like Rock Music?' #10
> Burial - 'Untrue' #121
> Elbow - 'The Seldom Seen Kid' #5
> Estelle - 'Shine' #6
> The Last Shadow Puppets - 'The Age Of The Understatement' #1
> Laura Marling - 'Alas I Cannot Swim' #45
> Neon Neon - 'Stainless Style' #67
> Portico Quartet - 'Knee-Deep In The North Sea' (not T200)
> Radiohead - 'In Rainbows' #1
>
> Haven't even heard of 4 of these 12 - sometimes I wonder if the nomination
> committee pick 3 or 4 albums at random, just to make it look as if they've
> earned their money... :)
Well, I've heard *of * 11 of them (no prizes etc) although I may not have
been able to quote all the album titles off the top of my head. I'd say most
of the acts were known in their respective fields, although they obviously
vary in national fame.
The only one of these albums I actually own is In Rainbows, although I have
tracks from a few of the others. I was actually thinking of getting the BSP
album as well, so it's a tiny bit annoying that it'll now look like I was
buying it because it was nominated.
> And - no Duffy or Coldplay??
Doesn't look like it, no. Possibly they didn't want to have both Duffy and
Adele on the same shortlist, although I think I might have chosen the other
way in that case. I don't really think I can believe that Viva La Vida is
the worst Coldplay album, but I guess it depends on the competition.
Chris
Paul Hyett
in uk.music.charts :
>Paul Hyett wrote:
>> Here are the nominations plus their chart peaks (so far).
>> Adele - '19' #1
>> British Sea Power - 'Do You Like Rock Music?' #10
>> Burial - 'Untrue' #121
>> Elbow - 'The Seldom Seen Kid' #5
>> Estelle - 'Shine' #6
>> The Last Shadow Puppets - 'The Age Of The Understatement' #1
>> Laura Marling - 'Alas I Cannot Swim' #45
>> Neon Neon - 'Stainless Style' #67
>> Portico Quartet - 'Knee-Deep In The North Sea' (not T200)
>> Robert Plant And Alison Krauss – 'Raising Sand' #2
>> Radiohead - 'In Rainbows' #1
>> Rachel Unthank And The Winterset – 'The Bairns' (not T200)
>
>I've got Burial and Radiohead of this.
I have precisely *none* of them - and of the artists I know, none have
the slightest appeal to me.
Paul Hyett
wrote in uk.music.charts :
>> Here are the nominations plus their chart peaks (so far).
>>
>> Adele - '19' #1
>> British Sea Power - 'Do You Like Rock Music?' #10
>> Burial - 'Untrue' #121
>> Elbow - 'The Seldom Seen Kid' #5
>> Estelle - 'Shine' #6
>> The Last Shadow Puppets - 'The Age Of The Understatement' #1
>> Laura Marling - 'Alas I Cannot Swim' #45
>> Neon Neon - 'Stainless Style' #67
>> Portico Quartet - 'Knee-Deep In The North Sea' (not T200)
>> Robert Plant And Alison Krauss - 'Raising Sand' #2
>> Radiohead - 'In Rainbows' #1
>> Rachel Unthank And The Winterset - 'The Bairns' (not T200)
>>
>> Haven't even heard of 4 of these 12
>
>Well, I've heard *of * 11 of them (no prizes etc) although I may not have
>been able to quote all the album titles off the top of my head. I'd say most
>of the acts were known in their respective fields, although they obviously
>vary in national fame.
>The only one of these albums I actually own is In Rainbows
You're not counting the free download version, are you? :)
>, although I have
>tracks from a few of the others.
None of the albums are the type of music that appeals to me though.
>I was actually thinking of getting the BSP
>album as well, so it's a tiny bit annoying that it'll now look like I was
>buying it because it was nominated.
Just a wait a month or two, then. :)
Paul Hyett
in uk.music.charts :
>
>I've got Elbow and Rachel Unthank, both good but both would be
>flattered by the award. Not many of the rest mean much to me - I've
>heard bits of Radiohead, BSP and Plant/Krauss. I do wonder how much
>is decided by small brown envelopes stuffed with £20m notes.
£20,000,000 notes? I'd love to have even *one* of those, let alone an
envelope full. :)
JohnB
> On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 at 13:53:58, JohnB <johnbo...@tinyworld.co.uk> wrote
> in uk.music.charts :
>
>
>
> >I've got Elbow and Rachel Unthank, both good but both would be
> >flattered by the award. Not many of the rest mean much to me - I've
> >heard bits of Radiohead, BSP and Plant/Krauss. I do wonder how much
> >is decided by small brown envelopes stuffed with £20m notes.
>
> £20,000,000 notes? I'd love to have even *one* of those, let alone an
> envelope full. :)
> --
er, sorry, a typo - or perhaps inflation is worse than I thought :-]
Dom Robinson
says...
> On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 at 20:57:12, Jan Buxton <ja...@eidosnet.co.uk> wrote
> in uk.music.charts :
>
> >Paul Hyett wrote:
> >> Here are the nominations plus their chart peaks (so far).
> >> Adele - '19' #1
> >> British Sea Power - 'Do You Like Rock Music?' #10
> >> Burial - 'Untrue' #121
> >> Elbow - 'The Seldom Seen Kid' #5
> >> Estelle - 'Shine' #6
> >> The Last Shadow Puppets - 'The Age Of The Understatement' #1
> >> Laura Marling - 'Alas I Cannot Swim' #45
> >> Neon Neon - 'Stainless Style' #67
> >> Portico Quartet - 'Knee-Deep In The North Sea' (not T200)
> >> Radiohead - 'In Rainbows' #1
> >
> >I've got Burial and Radiohead of this.
>
> I have precisely *none* of them - and of the artists I know, none have
> the slightest appeal to me.
>
bitch, and as for the rest there are some I've heard of and some I haven't but
I couldn't give a fuck about any of them (except I'd give Radiohead a go, as
I've liked them in the past, but the rest are all coffee table/dinner party
music.
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Paul Hyett
wrote in uk.music.charts :
>> >> Here are the nominations plus their chart peaks (so far).
>> >> Adele - '19' #1
>> >> British Sea Power - 'Do You Like Rock Music?' #10
>> >> Burial - 'Untrue' #121
>> >> Elbow - 'The Seldom Seen Kid' #5
>> >> Estelle - 'Shine' #6
>> >> The Last Shadow Puppets - 'The Age Of The Understatement' #1
>> >> Laura Marling - 'Alas I Cannot Swim' #45
>> >> Neon Neon - 'Stainless Style' #67
>> >> Portico Quartet - 'Knee-Deep In The North Sea' (not T200)
>> >> Robert Plant And Alison Krauss â€=3F 'Raising Sand' #2
>> >> Radiohead - 'In Rainbows' #1
>> >> Rachel Unthank And The Winterset â€=3F 'The Bairns' (not T200)
>> >
>> >I've got Burial and Radiohead of this.
>>
>> I have precisely *none* of them - and of the artists I know, none have
>> the slightest appeal to me.
>>
>I like Elbow but I always have. Adele - stop eating all the pies you miserable
>bitch, and as for the rest there are some I've heard of and some I haven't but
>I couldn't give a fuck about any of them (except I'd give Radiohead a go, as
>I've liked them in the past, but the rest are all coffee table/dinner party
>music.
How do you know, if you haven't heard of them? :)
JohnB
> In article <jkKhzDCY2BiIF...@blueyonder.co.uk>, vidcap...@invalid83261.co.uk
> says...
>
> > On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 at 20:57:12, Jan Buxton <j...@eidosnet.co.uk> wrote
> > in uk.music.charts :
>
> > >Paul Hyett wrote:
> > >> Here are the nominations plus their chart peaks (so far).
> > >> Adele - '19' #1
> > >> British Sea Power - 'Do You Like Rock Music?' #10
> > >> Burial - 'Untrue' #121
> > >> Elbow - 'The Seldom Seen Kid' #5
> > >> Estelle - 'Shine' #6
> > >> The Last Shadow Puppets - 'The Age Of The Understatement' #1
> > >> Laura Marling - 'Alas I Cannot Swim' #45
> > >> Neon Neon - 'Stainless Style' #67
> > >> Portico Quartet - 'Knee-Deep In The North Sea' (not T200)
> > >> Robert Plant And Alison Krauss â¤=3F 'Raising Sand' #2
> > >> Radiohead - 'In Rainbows' #1
> > >> Rachel Unthank And The Winterset â¤=3F 'The Bairns' (not T200)
>
> > >I've got Burial and Radiohead of this.
>
> > I have precisely *none* of them - and of the artists I know, none have
> > the slightest appeal to me.
>
> I like Elbow but I always have. Adele - stop eating all the pies you miserable
> bitch, and as for the rest there are some I've heard of and some I haven't but
> I couldn't give a fuck about any of them (except I'd give Radiohead a go, as
> I've liked them in the past, but the rest are all coffee table/dinner party
> music.
>
You have dinner parties on a coffee table? And you'd play things like
Rachel Unthank? That's seriously weird.
Saviour Machine
>
> I like Elbow but I always have. Adele - stop eating all the pies you miserable
> bitch, and as for the rest there are some I've heard of and some I haven't but
> I couldn't give a fuck about any of them (except I'd give Radiohead a go, as
> I've liked them in the past, but the rest are all coffee table/dinner party
> music.
> --
>
>
I watched a Richard Gere film the other night and nearly fell out of
armchair when I realised that a Radiohead song ("Exit Music") was
featured as a stand-alone piano piece. It's great to know that truly
great music can span genres instead of just becoming advert jingles.
(SM shakes his head at the notion of "Blue Monday" being used to sell
chocolate bars.)
Chris Brown
"JohnB" <john...@tinyworld.co.uk> wrote in message
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On 24 Jul, 09:26, Paul Hyett <vidcap...@invalid83261.co.uk> wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 at 13:53:58, JohnB <johnbo...@tinyworld.co.uk> wrote
> in uk.music.charts :
>
>
>
> >I've got Elbow and Rachel Unthank, both good but both would be
> >flattered by the award. Not many of the rest mean much to me - I've
> >heard bits of Radiohead, BSP and Plant/Krauss. I do wonder how much
> >is decided by small brown envelopes stuffed with £20m notes.
>
> £20,000,000 notes? I'd love to have even *one* of those, let alone an
> envelope full. :)
> --
er, sorry, a typo - or perhaps inflation is worse than I thought :-]
Well, you know what they say about economic statistics....
Seriously, it's no secret that it costs money to enter for the Mercury - but
in practice this doesn't seem to have the effect you'd have predicted ie a
shortlist dominated by the deep-pocketed. In fact, Music Week pointed out
that there are only four major-label releases out of twelve here.
Perhaps the effect is that the indies have to be more thoughtful about which
albums they choose to enter.
Chris
Chris Brown
> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 at 00:01:32, Chris Brown <extreme...@yahoo.com>
> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>
>>> Here are the nominations plus their chart peaks (so far).
>>>
>>> Adele - '19' #1
>>> British Sea Power - 'Do You Like Rock Music?' #10
>>> Burial - 'Untrue' #121
>>> Elbow - 'The Seldom Seen Kid' #5
>>> Estelle - 'Shine' #6
>>> The Last Shadow Puppets - 'The Age Of The Understatement' #1
>>> Laura Marling - 'Alas I Cannot Swim' #45
>>> Neon Neon - 'Stainless Style' #67
>>> Portico Quartet - 'Knee-Deep In The North Sea' (not T200)
>>> Robert Plant And Alison Krauss - 'Raising Sand' #2
>>> Radiohead - 'In Rainbows' #1
>>> Rachel Unthank And The Winterset - 'The Bairns' (not T200)
>>>
>>> Haven't even heard of 4 of these 12
>>
>>Well, I've heard *of * 11 of them (no prizes etc) although I may not have
>>been able to quote all the album titles off the top of my head. I'd say
>>most
>>of the acts were known in their respective fields, although they obviously
>>vary in national fame.
>>The only one of these albums I actually own is In Rainbows
>
> You're not counting the free download version, are you? :)
As it happens, I don't have to - but I don't see why I shouldn't.
>>, although I have
>>tracks from a few of the others.
>
> None of the albums are the type of music that appeals to me though.
And there was me thinking you'd be bang up for a bit of dubstep.
>>I was actually thinking of getting the BSP
>>album as well, so it's a tiny bit annoying that it'll now look like I was
>>buying it because it was nominated.
>
> Just a wait a month or two, then. :)
That only makes sense if they do a "Gorillaz", which seems unlikely.
I did once buy an album shortly before the announcement (IIRC on the day
itself) because I was afraid it might win.
Chris
Paul Hyett
wrote in uk.music.charts :
>
>>>I was actually thinking of getting the BSP
>>>album as well, so it's a tiny bit annoying that it'll now look like I was
>>>buying it because it was nominated.
>>
>> Just a wait a month or two, then. :)
>
>That only makes sense if they do a "Gorillaz", which seems unlikely.
Huh?
>I did once buy an album shortly before the announcement (IIRC on the day
>itself) because I was afraid it might win.
Huh again?
Chris Brown
> On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 at 22:11:05, Chris Brown <extreme...@yahoo.com>
> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>
>>>>I was actually thinking of getting the BSP
>>>>album as well, so it's a tiny bit annoying that it'll now look like I
>>>>was
>>>>buying it because it was nominated.
>>>
>>> Just a wait a month or two, then. :)
>>
>>That only makes sense if they do a "Gorillaz", which seems unlikely.
>
> Huh?
In 2001, the first Gorillaz album was nominated, but Damon Albarn complained
and insisted that it be removed. As a result, the subsequent
Gorillaz/Blur/Good Bad & Queen records weren't entered.
>>I did once buy an album shortly before the announcement (IIRC on the day
>>itself) because I was afraid it might win.
>
> Huh again?
As in, I didn't want to buy it the day after it had won, because I didn't
want to look like the sort of person who needed an award to make me buy a
record.
As it turned out, it didn't win anyway though.
Chris
Paul Hyett
wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>
>>>That only makes sense if they do a "Gorillaz", which seems unlikely.
>>
>> Huh?
>
>In 2001, the first Gorillaz album was nominated, but Damon Albarn complained
>and insisted that it be removed. As a result, the subsequent
>Gorillaz/Blur/Good Bad & Queen records weren't entered.
Why did he do that, anyway?
>
>>>I did once buy an album shortly before the announcement (IIRC on the day
>>>itself) because I was afraid it might win.
>>
>> Huh again?
>
>As in, I didn't want to buy it the day after it had won, because I didn't
>want to look like the sort of person who needed an award to make me buy a
>record.
Who'd even know, if you downloaded it, or bought it from Amazon... :)
Chris Brown
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> "JohnB" <john...@tinyworld.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On 24 Jul, 09:26, Paul Hyett <vidcap...@invalid83261.co.uk> wrote:
>> On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 at 13:53:58, JohnB <johnbo...@tinyworld.co.uk> wrote
>> in uk.music.charts :
>>
>>
>>
> Seriously, it's no secret that it costs money to enter for the Mercury -
> but in practice this doesn't seem to have the effect you'd have predicted
> ie a shortlist dominated by the deep-pocketed. In fact, Music Week pointed
> out that there are only four major-label releases out of twelve here.
Sorry to follow myself up but I think they're wrong here - I can count five
major label releases:
Elbow (Fiction)
Estelle (Atlantic)
Laura Marling (EMI)
Robert Plant (Decca)
Rachel Unthank (EMI)
Still doesn't affect the general point though.
Chris
Chris Brown
> On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 at 23:31:56, Chris Brown <extreme...@yahoo.com>
> wrote in uk.music.charts :
>>>>
>>>>That only makes sense if they do a "Gorillaz", which seems unlikely.
>>>
>>> Huh?
>>
>>In 2001, the first Gorillaz album was nominated, but Damon Albarn
>>complained
>>and insisted that it be removed. As a result, the subsequent
>>Gorillaz/Blur/Good Bad & Queen records weren't entered.
>
> Why did he do that, anyway?
ISTR him complaining about it being too elitist, or not elitist enough or
something like that. Whatever it was didn't bother him when Parklife was
nominated. The Wiki article for the Mercury prize includes a quote from
Murdoc, even though he doesn't actually exist.
>>>>I did once buy an album shortly before the announcement (IIRC on the day
>>>>itself) because I was afraid it might win.
>>>
>>> Huh again?
>>
>>As in, I didn't want to buy it the day after it had won, because I didn't
>>want to look like the sort of person who needed an award to make me buy a
>>record.
>
> Who'd even know, if you downloaded it, or bought it from Amazon... :)
This was in 2000, so I wasn't in a position to download it. But I take the
point. It was really just self-justification.
Chris