OT: Planets
Julian Day
The solar system may be about to acquire some more planets:
http://www.newscientistspace.com/article/dn9761-three-new-planets-may-join-solar-system.html
J
Stephen
Well, I just hope that the Government of the Terran Federation moves
quickly to put limits on the free movement of economic migrant aliens
from these lumps of rock onto civilised planets like Earth. I know
that some people think that we have benefited from hard-working young
Neptunians and Uranians coming here looking for jobs, but how many
cut-price shops and interplanetary shuttle services do we need? If we
suddenly let Cerians and Charonians flock down, where will it end? I
cannot see the inhabitants of 2003 EL61 integrating with Terran
culture, and while I have met some wonderful people on holiday on
Quaoar, I'm not sure that I would like them as my neighbours.
--
Stephen
Into my heart an air that kills From yon far country blows:
What are those blue remembered hills, What spires, what farms are those?
That is the land of lost content, I see it shining plain,
The happy highways where I went And cannot come again.
Paul Herber
wrote:
>On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 12:52:13 +0100, "Julian Day"
><jd...@medschl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>>The solar system may be about to acquire some more planets:
>>
>>http://www.newscientistspace.com/article/dn9761-three-new-planets-may-join-solar-system.html
>
>Well, I just hope that the Government of the Terran Federation moves
>quickly to put limits on the free movement of economic migrant aliens
>from these lumps of rock onto civilised planets like Earth. I know
>that some people think that we have benefited from hard-working young
>Neptunians and Uranians coming here looking for jobs, but how many
>cut-price shops and interplanetary shuttle services do we need?
OTOH, should we try to get all the Plutoniums dumped in the sun rather
than allow them to go North Korea (who are offering them free housing
and a colour photo of Kim Jong-il).
--
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BrritSki
> On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 12:52:13 +0100, "Julian Day"
> <jd...@medschl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>
>>The solar system may be about to acquire some more planets:
>>
>>http://www.newscientistspace.com/article/dn9761-three-new-planets-may-join-solar-system.html
>
>
> Well, I just hope that the Government of the Terran Federation moves
> quickly to put limits on the free movement of economic migrant aliens
> from these lumps of rock onto civilised planets like Earth. I know
> that some people think that we have benefited from hard-working young
> Neptunians and Uranians coming here looking for jobs, but how many
> cut-price shops and interplanetary shuttle services do we need? If we
> suddenly let Cerians and Charonians flock down, where will it end? I
> cannot see the inhabitants of 2003 EL61 integrating with Terran
> culture, and while I have met some wonderful people on holiday on
> Quaoar, I'm not sure that I would like them as my neighbours.
Do they play cricket ?
Joe Kerr
If they do, which team will they support after moving here?
--
Ric.
Paul Herber
wrote:
>Stephen wrote:
Are you training a team in your new village?
--
Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd. http://www.pherber.com/
Siderius Nuncius
"BrritSki" <Brri...@iname.com> wrote
> Stephen wrote:
Not if you accuse them of ball-tampering.
--
Sid
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Steve Brooks
> "BrritSki" wrote
I always wondered what caused those red stains on their trousers.
--
SB
BrritSki
Colin Blackburn
> The solar system may be about to acquire some more planets:
>
> http://www.newscientistspace.com/article/dn9761-three-new-planets-may-join-solar-system.html
>
The vote went the other way...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/5282440.stm
We now have just 8 planets.
Colin
Paul Herber
Can we claim any compensation?
Julian Day
"Colin Blackburn" <colin.b...@durham.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:eckd6q$od5$2...@heffalump.dur.ac.uk...
I think this is the right result. I was reading in Astronomy Now magazine
recently that when the first 4 large asteroids were discovered they were
considered to be planets. When it was realized that they were just the
largest of a large number of "minor planets" between Mars and Jupiter they
were re-classified as asteroids. The same has now happened to Pluto, which
turns out to be a large object (not even the largest) in the "outer asteroid
belt" or Kupier Belt.
J
Mike McMillan
Herber <Usene...@pherber.com> writes
>On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 15:35:54 +0100, Colin Blackburn
><colin.b...@durham.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>>Julian Day wrote:
>>> The solar system may be about to acquire some more planets:
>>>
>>>
>>>http://www.newscientistspace.com/article/dn9761-three-new-planets-may-
>>>join-solar-system.html
>>>
>>
>>The vote went the other way...
>>
>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/5282440.stm
>>
>>We now have just 8 planets.
>
>Can we claim any compensation?
>
>
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Stephen
Well, I'm disappointed. I think that having three more planets would
have boosted interest in astronomy. I'd far rather see NASA's money
spent on unmanned interplanetary expeditions to Ceres, Quaoar and
Sedna than on the International Space Station and the shuttle.
On the other hand this does bring the Solar System in line with Holst,
and reduces any risk of the Mouse making any claims on what is now
merely a Kuiper Belt Object.
Sebastian Lisken
is that the body's gravity must also have served to clear its
neighbourhood around its orbit of other bodies. This is what "failed"
Pluto, and it gives a fairly sensible and non-arbitrary definition to
what had become disturbing about Pluto: that it has turned out to be
just one of a "cloud" of objects out there.
And note that there is now a new category of "dwarf planets" of which
Pluto is the second largest, so it is still worthy of some extra
attention - and even as dwarf planets "new" bodies such as 2003 UB313
are distinct from the rest ("small solar-system objects") and might
serve to create new interest in astronomy.
See the bottom of http://www.iau2006.org/mirror/www.iau.org/iau0603/ for
the texts of the passed resolutions.
Sebastian
Jim Easterbrook
> The vote went the other way...
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/5282440.stm
>
> We now have just 8 planets.
Avoid jouralists' spin / ignorance by going to the IAU press release:
<http://www.iau2006.org/mirror/www.iau.org/iau0603/index.html>
--
Jim <http://www.jim-easterbrook.me.uk/>
1959/1985? M B+ G+ A L I- S- P-- CH0(p) Ar++ T+ H0 Q--- Sh0
Sebastian Lisken
> The criterion that was only added today is that the body's gravity
> must also have served to clear its neighbourhood
I was wrong about the timing, it seems. The articles linked from
http://www.newscientistspace.com/article/dn9824-pluto-gets-the-boot-as-the-solar-system-shrinks.html
suggest that the new criterion was added two days ago, with a first
version ("by far the largest body in its local population") being
proposed on Friday.
I wasn't even aware of New Scientist Space magazine - thanks for that
link in the original post, Julian.
Sebastian
Jenny M Benson
<Sebastia...@Uni-Bielefeld-deletethis.DE> writes>he-solar-system-shrinks.html suggest that the new criterion was added
>local population") being proposed on Friday.
Depending on how far you stretch "local", I think that possibly makes me
a planet.
--
Jenny
"I always like to have the morning well-aired before I get up."
(Beau Brummel, 1778-1840)
Siderius Nuncius
"Stephen" <stephe...@yahoo.com> wrote
> On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 15:47:59 +0100, "Julian Day"
>>> Julian Day wrote:
>>> > The solar system may be about to acquire some more planets:
>>> >
>>http://www.newscientistspace.com/article/dn9761-three-new-planets-may-join-solar-system.html
>>>
>>> The vote went the other way...
>>>
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/5282440.stm
>>>
>>> We now have just 8 planets.
>>
>>I think this is the right result. I was reading in Astronomy Now magazine
>>recently that when the first 4 large asteroids were discovered they were
>>considered to be planets. When it was realized that they were just the
>>largest of a large number of "minor planets" between Mars and Jupiter they
>>were re-classified as asteroids. The same has now happened to Pluto, which
>>turns out to be a large object (not even the largest) in the "outer
>>asteroid
>>belt" or Kupier Belt.
>
> Well, I'm disappointed. I think that having three more planets would
> have boosted interest in astronomy.
And it would have allowed us to meet the Government's Incremental Planetary
Development Targets for the year. I expect Offstar will have something to
say.
Stephen
<Ne...@cedarbank81.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>In message <4l6cli...@news.dfncis.de>, Sebastian Lisken
><Sebastia...@Uni-Bielefeld-deletethis.DE> writes
>>The articles linked from
>>http://www.newscientistspace.com/article/dn9824-pluto-gets-the-boot-as-t
>>he-solar-system-shrinks.html suggest that the new criterion was added
>>two days ago, with a first version ("by far the largest body in its
>>local population") being proposed on Friday.
>
>Depending on how far you stretch "local", I think that possibly makes me
>a planet.
Nah, you fail on another criterion - a planet must orbit a star but
cannot *be* a star.
Jenny M Benson
<stephe...@yahoo.com> writes
>Nah, you fail on another criterion - a planet must orbit a star but
>cannot *be* a star.
Ooh, Stephen - I've come over all girlish and silly!
K Richard W
uk.media.radio.archers that
How dare the Kuiper Belt object to the decision of numerous astronomers?
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Plusnet
colin.b...@durham.ac.uk says...
Sam
Plusnet
says...
planetary status still further.
It might be fun to live on an asteroid.
Sam
Nick Atty
I don't think Pluto has so much failed, as was enjoying advanced
success.
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Colin Blackburn
> Colin Blackburn <colin.b...@durham.ac.uk> wrote in
> news:eckd6q$od5$2...@heffalump.dur.ac.uk:
>
>> The vote went the other way...
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/5282440.stm
>>
>> We now have just 8 planets.
>
> Avoid jouralists' spin / ignorance by going to the IAU press release:
> <http://www.iau2006.org/mirror/www.iau.org/iau0603/index.html>
As I said, we now just have 8 planets.
Footnote 1 reads:
"The eight planets are: Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn,
Uranus, and Neptune."
Colin
Jane Vernon
> In message <4l6cli...@news.dfncis.de>, Sebastian Lisken
> <Sebastia...@Uni-Bielefeld-deletethis.DE> writes
>> The articles linked from
>> http://www.newscientistspace.com/article/dn9824-pluto-gets-the-boot-as-t
>> he-solar-system-shrinks.html suggest that the new criterion was added
>> two days ago, with a first version ("by far the largest body in its
>> local population") being proposed on Friday.
>
> Depending on how far you stretch "local", I think that possibly makes
> me a planet.
LOL
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Jim Easterbrook
@heffalump.dur.ac.uk:
> Jim Easterbrook wrote:
>> Colin Blackburn <colin.b...@durham.ac.uk> wrote in
>> news:eckd6q$od5$2...@heffalump.dur.ac.uk:
>>
>>> The vote went the other way...
>>>
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/5282440.stm
>>>
>>> We now have just 8 planets.
>>
>> Avoid jouralists' spin / ignorance by going to the IAU press release:
>> <http://www.iau2006.org/mirror/www.iau.org/iau0603/index.html>
>
> As I said, we now just have 8 planets.
Sorry Colin, I didn't mean to suggest you'd been misled, just that the
press releases are a better read than a journalist's version of them.
Linda Fox
Would putting them into Special Measures cause some improvement, do
you think?
lff
Robin Fairbairns
>"Colin Blackburn" <colin.b...@durham.ac.uk> wrote...
>> The vote went the other way...
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/5282440.stm
>>
>> We now have just 8 planets.
>
>I think this is the right result. I was reading in Astronomy Now magazine
>recently that when the first 4 large asteroids were discovered they were
>considered to be planets. When it was realized that they were just the
>largest of a large number of "minor planets" between Mars and Jupiter they
>were re-classified as asteroids. The same has now happened to Pluto, which
>turns out to be a large object (not even the largest) in the "outer asteroid
>belt" or Kupier Belt.
i hadn't realised that pluto was, in origin, a publicity stunt. some
eminent astronomer had decided that neptune's orbit wasn't what it
should be and declared there must be another massive body beyond it.
his observatory then came up with pluto, made a wildly inaccurate
guess about its size, and declared this was the planet that was the
source of neptune's deviations from the true path. result!
observatory becomes the most famous in the usa, for a bit.
given the established facts, as julian says, the decision has surely
to be the right one.
--
Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge