Spoiler 1998-08-14T19:02:00
Andrew Wineberg
he more or less threatened 3d with a grass-up to the BMA. Today, he
continues playing on Danul's emotions in an attempt to blackmail Shula
into a permanent relationship which was never on the cards, as I saw it,
in any case.
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outside (or inside, for that matter) - is not this illegal?
George Middleton
>Snappy's activities today have really turned me against him.
The episode was completely unbelievable however. We heard Sain't Shula
calling Dicdoc on the phone. "Can you come over right away?" she said in
a voice full of anxiety. He must have said he would without asking
whether he was to bring a stethoscope or a packet of three.
--
George
Pauline Young
> Snappy's activities today have really turned me against him. Yesterday
> he more or less threatened 3d with a grass-up to the BMA. Today, he
> continues playing on Danul's emotions in an attempt to blackmail Shula
> into a permanent relationship which was never on the cards, as I saw it,
> in any case.
I am very disappointed with Richard (never did like Snappy). As we spend
yet another Saturday waiting for Shula to make up her mind (yawn), I
think a word should be said against Daniel. He used to be pleased enough
to see Richard when he was in hospital; we used to have "hah-wow
Wichard". Why is he now seen to be encouraging Snappy?
A fickle male :-)
Best wishes,
Pauline
--
Pauline Young,
Reading, Berkshire
Joe Boswell
<A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM> writes
>Snappy's activities today have really turned me against him. Yesterday
>he more or less threatened 3d with a grass-up to the BMA. Today, he
>continues playing on Danul's emotions in an attempt to blackmail Shula
>into a permanent relationship which was never on the cards, as I saw it,
>in any case.
This is not my reading of it at all. Alistair's threat[1] to Doc Dick is
entirely justified, and the Doc is in no position to argue. Alistair's
attempt to get Shula to give a straight answer is also justified.
There's no 'blackmail' in the fact he gets on with Daniel. It's just
something that Shula ought to consider, but Alistair has not exploited
it. It would be different if Alistair had used this unfairly by saying
that unless Shula does what he wants, Daniel will suffer - but in fact,
Alistair has been careful to say the opposite, just as he did at the
last bust up they had. What more could he do to be honourable?
If the relationship was never on the cards, why did Shula agree they
were an item when Alistair previously demanded to know where he stood
with her? Was she so sneaky and mean that she said it in order to keep
him quiet, while she planned to look for someone to replace him?
On the other hand, Shula was so off-hand, rude and infuriating towards
him during the whole Daniel illness crisis that Alistair should have
taken the hint and disappeared for good. Looks like a fine case of love
is blind. This theory is supported by his faith that is all the Doc's
fault and that Shula is blameless.
[1] It is disturbing, after the revelations about the cover-up that
protected the Bristol surgeons for years, to see reporting professional
misconduct described as a 'grass-up'. It is that attitude that allows
incompetent, dangerous and unprofessional doctors to rely on others not
to report them.
--
Joe Boswell * If I cannot be free, I'll be cheap.
Robin Fairbairns
Joe Boswell <j...@Xbigbad.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <4875A45F91%A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM>, Andrew Wineberg
><A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM> writes
>
>This is not my reading of it at all. [...]
nor mine.
joe and i appear to be (ever so slightly) in the minority on this
point, but he's said almost all i would have said.
the one point that really shook me about last night's sorry
performance by the unfrocked one was that *she* said she'd been
unfaithful to him.
i don't actually like snappy much, but i don't believe he deserves the
treatment he's getting.
--
I live in the crowd of jollity, not so much to enjoy company as to shun
myself. -- Samuel Johnson
Robin Fairbairns
Pauline Young <paulin...@luton.ac.uk> wrote:
>[...] I
>think a word should be said against Daniel. He used to be pleased enough
>to see Richard when he was in hospital; we used to have "hah-wow
>Wichard". Why is he now seen to be encouraging Snappy?
because he always did; it was only the unfrocked one who's never
really encouraged him much.
i wish he hadn't said "cum urn" last night, though.
he can't be `pleased to see' ddd, since ddd never nowadays comes round
when danul's able to see him. he's with jill, or in bed, every time
now.
>A fickle male :-)
sigh. there's a lot of fickleness about, methinks.
John B
wrote:
>In article <4875A45F91%A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM>, Andrew Wineberg
><A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM> writes
>>he more or less threatened 3d with a grass-up to the BMA. Today, he
>>continues playing on Danul's emotions in an attempt to blackmail Shula
>>into a permanent relationship which was never on the cards, as I saw it,
>>in any case.
>
>This is not my reading of it at all. Alistair's threat[1] to Doc Dick is
>entirely justified, and the Doc is in no position to argue. Alistair's
>attempt to get Shula to give a straight answer is also justified.
>There's no 'blackmail' in the fact he gets on with Daniel. It's just
>something that Shula ought to consider, but Alistair has not exploited
>it.
I have to say I am with you completely on this. Seems to me Shula
should now get over her dependence induced crush on the Doctor and
become sensible and predictable again. Alistair is obviously a good
chap and a very suitable mate. R's treatment of Usha makes him a bad
egg in my book and he can disappear to Manchester to be reformed or
rewritten.
(This would have a possible benefit that we might hear less from Daniel)
Good line recently:
"I'm in love with her"
"Don't tell me, It's Bigger Than Both of You!"
--
John B. j...@avism.demon.co.uk
Robin Fairbairns
John B <j...@avism.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>Good line recently:
>"I'm in love with her"
>"Don't tell me, It's Bigger Than Both of You!"
a death dick indeed.
andy roberts
uk.media.radio.archers :
>Snappy's activities today have really turned me against him. Yesterday
>he more or less threatened 3d with a grass-up to the BMA. Today, he
>continues playing on Danul's emotions in an attempt to blackmail Shula
>into a permanent relationship which was never on the cards, as I saw it,
>in any case.
Well, he's fighting hard what he wants, and who knows , he may even
still be in with an outside chance if Shula is outraged at 3d's
presumption that he can "take her away from all this baggage".
I for one, hope she goes to Mankyland , but it does seem a bit tough
on daniel.
Andy R
--
For earlier replies mail me at andyrobts AT zetnet d0t co d0t uk.
Charles Norrie
>>he more or less threatened 3d with a grass-up to the BMA. Today, he
>>continues playing on Danul's emotions in an attempt to blackmail Shula
>>into a permanent relationship which was never on the cards, as I saw it,
>>in any case.
>
Is this a feasible complaint? (apart from the fact it's to the GMC, not
the BMA, which is the doc's union).
Can a third party, who might or might not be a patient of a doctor,
complain about the behaviour of the same doctor towards another patient
with whom he has no legal connection?
Joe Boswell
<Cha...@geodeon.demon.co.uk> writes
[snip all the rest of Charles's post]
Without wanting to make a big issue of it, I would like to point out
that although my name headed the attributions at the top of Charles's
post, it contained nothing that I wrote. It could lead to confusion.
andy roberts
uk.media.radio.archers :
>Is this a feasible complaint? (apart from the fact it's to the GMC, not
>the BMA, which is the doc's union).
>
>Can a third party, who might or might not be a patient of a doctor,
>complain about the behaviour of the same doctor towards another patient
>with whom he has no legal connection?
Can someone make a complaint? Yes they can. Why there are some
people who make it their business to complain at each and every
opportunity. I believe the rewards make it worthwhile, even if some
fall on deaf ears. With only a few weeks training one can become a
professional complainer, beats entering competitions , free draws or
playing the lottery/stupid tax.
Mike McMillan
<URL:mailto:Mi...@leton.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> Andrew Wineberg wrote:
> >Snappy's activities today have really turned me against him.
>
> calling Dicdoc on the phone. "Can you come over right away?" she said in
> a voice full of anxiety. He must have said he would without asking
> whether he was to bring a stethoscope or a packet of three.
OK., Why would he want three stethoscopes then? ;-)))
Anyway, is there any harm in him not wanting his stethoscope to contract
aids?
Toodle Pip (Charles, OPEN THAT BUNKER DOOR - QUICKLY!!!!),
Chocolatey Munch-Munch, no, no tea thanks, I'm agnostic,
Mike
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Liz Blades
>Andrew Wineberg <A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM> posted to
>uk.media.radio.archers :
>>Snappy's activities today have really turned me against him. Yesterday
>>he more or less threatened 3d with a grass-up to the BMA. Today, he
>>continues playing on Danul's emotions in an attempt to blackmail Shula
>>into a permanent relationship which was never on the cards, as I saw it,
snippy snippy snip
>I for one, hope she goes to Mankyland , but it does seem a bit tough
>on daniel.
Oy,- what's wrong with Manchester? apart from the fact that it is in
the south AFAIAC.
Liz
Linda
advance if wrong.
Joe says
>>This is not my reading of it at all. [...]
>
>nor mine.
>
Robin adds:
>joe and i appear to be (ever so slightly) in the minority on this
>point, but he's said almost all i would have said.
No, not at all -- I'm ashamed to admit we are of one accord. I just hate
being marginalised - so I let others express what I fear may be a
minority opinion - until it feels safe to join in. But I am working
hard on overcoming this little problem -- I have a model...oh yes...but
she's not doing much modelling of late :-(
--
Linda
Paul Trembath
Joe Boswell (or someone) wrote in message ...
>[1] It is disturbing, after the revelations about the cover-up that
>protected the Bristol surgeons for years, to see reporting professional
>misconduct described as a 'grass-up'. It is that attitude that allows
>incompetent, dangerous and unprofessional doctors to rely on others not
>to report them.
>--
<snip>
No it isn't.
It is disturbing that the medical profession appear to think that having sex
with patients is worse than (taking actions that may contribute to the
effect
of) killing kids.
It is disturbing that people are encouraged by the press and Watchdog to
think
that if something bad happens, there must be a villain and they should sue
somebody.
But if two competent, consenting adults decide to have sex - however
confused
they are about it - what does that have to do with the BMA?
pt
andy roberts
>andy...@aol.com (andy roberts) wrote:
>
[snip]
>
>>I for one, hope she goes to Mankyland , but it does seem a bit tough
>>on daniel.
>
>Oy,- what's wrong with Manchester? apart from the fact that it is in
>the south AFAIAC.
>
I'm sure it's a dead exciting place for a newly coupled doctor and
ex-saint but perhaps a little hostile for a pampered little country
boy?
Then there's the rain, the football team, the broken glass , the froth
on the beer, the proximity to scouseland..... need I go on?
Iain Archer
>Can someone make a complaint? Yes they can. Why there are some
>people who make it their business to complain at each and every
>opportunity. I believe the rewards make it worthwhile, even if some
>fall on deaf ears. With only a few weeks training one can become a
>professional complainer, beats entering competitions , free draws or
>playing the lottery/stupid tax.
Speaking of which, has anyone noticed any change in Boots 60g
vitamin C powder recently?
--
Iain Archer i...@montaigne.demon appended_to .co.uk
Occasional but usually justified amateur
Steve Holden
>Andrew Wineberg <A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM> posted to
>uk.media.radio.archers :
>
>>Snappy's activities today have really turned me against him. Yesterday
>>he more or less threatened 3d with a grass-up to the BMA. Today, he
>>continues playing on Danul's emotions in an attempt to blackmail Shula
>>into a permanent relationship which was never on the cards, as I saw it,
>
>Well, he's fighting hard what he wants, and who knows , he may even
>still be in with an outside chance if Shula is outraged at 3d's
>presumption that he can "take her away from all this baggage".
>
>on daniel.
There's no way that Sssss will uproot herself and leave,in fact I'm
inclining to the belief that she might cave to the brainwashing that snappy
is giving her and admit that "it was all a big mistake, I'm a really nice
person,and the nasty Dickdoc took advantage of my vulnerable state.Now will
everyone love me again,please?"
Then she'll marry snappy,and discover that the reason there were so many
arguments and silences in his previous marriage was that he's an immature
selfish controlling shit,who can't stand not to have his own way in
everything.
Steve slap the lot of them
http://personal.redestb.es/steven/flower%20brooch%20page.html
Charles F Hankel
>
> In article <4875A45F91%A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM>, Andrew Wineberg
> <A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM> writes
> >he more or less threatened 3d with a grass-up to the BMA. Today, he
> >continues playing on Danul's emotions in an attempt to blackmail Shula
> >into a permanent relationship which was never on the cards, as I saw it,
> >in any case.
>
> entirely justified, and the Doc is in no position to argue. Alistair's
> attempt to get Shula to give a straight answer is also justified.
> There's no 'blackmail' in the fact he gets on with Daniel. It's just
> something that Shula ought to consider, but Alistair has not exploited
> that unless Shula does what he wants, Daniel will suffer - but in fact,
> Alistair has been careful to say the opposite, just as he did at the
> last bust up they had. What more could he do to be honourable?
While I don't necessarily disagree with you, if Shula has to make a
logical decision, the result of that decision should be to dump the pair
of them.
What disturbs me about the situation is DocDick's sudden telephone call
to his chum about moving into his practice in Manchester. When did this
chum first come onto the scene? - I appear to have missed this. Or is
it the route out of a storyline that one SW has chosen, more as a
now-get-out-of-that-one pass to the next SW than as the reult of any
prior mention?
--
Charles F Hankel
-------------------------------------
Hapless FAQer on the Wirral peninsula
Charles F Hankel
>
> andy...@aol.com (andy roberts) wrote:
> >I for one, hope she goes to Mankyland , but it does seem a bit tough
> >on daniel.
>
> the south AFAIAC.
About the only decent thing in Manchester is Lancashire County Cricket
Club's ground. Lancs prove their superiority over all other counties
time and again by using the rainiest city as the location of its home
ground, especially as it is down south.
Joe Boswell
<um...@hankel.mersinet.co.uk> writes
>What disturbs me about the situation is DocDick's sudden telephone call
>to his chum about moving into his practice in Manchester. When did this
>chum first come onto the scene? - I appear to have missed this.
The Manchester job offer was first mentioned when he was deciding to
dump Usha and move out to the surgery.
Charles Norrie
<j...@bigbad.demon.co.uk> writes
>In article <fMH4PNAe...@geodeon.demon.co.uk>, Charles Norrie
><Cha...@geodeon.demon.co.uk> writes
>>In article <FrXDiRAQ...@bigbad.demon.co.uk>, Joe Boswell
>><j...@bigbad.demon.co.uk> writes
>
>[snip all the rest of Charles's post]
>
>Without wanting to make a big issue of it, I would like to point out
>that although my name headed the attributions at the top of Charles's
>post, it contained nothing that I wrote. It could lead to confusion.
>
--
Charles Norrie
Charles Norrie
<um...@hankel.mersinet.co.uk> writes
>Liz Blades wrote:
>>
>> andy...@aol.com (andy roberts) wrote:
>
>> >I for one, hope she goes to Mankyland , but it does seem a bit tough
>> >on daniel.
>>
>> Oy,- what's wrong with Manchester? apart from the fact that it is in
>> the south AFAIAC.
>
>About the only decent thing in Manchester is Lancashire County Cricket
>Club's ground. Lancs prove their superiority over all other counties
>time and again by using the rainiest city as the location of its home
>ground, especially as it is down south.
>
It is the home of Boddingtons, which used to be a fine beer.
--
Charles Norrie
Mayes
Iain Archer wrote in message
<73MjUSAq...@montaigne.demon.co.uk>...
>
>Speaking of which, has anyone noticed any change in Boots 60g
>vitamin C powder recently?
Umm, no... but I don't use it. What have they done to it Iain?
Penny Mayes pe...@bredgar.globalSnet.co.uk doff cap to reply
Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine...
Andrew Wineberg
Joe Boswell <j...@bigbad.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> [1] It is disturbing, after the revelations about the cover-up that
> protected the Bristol surgeons for years, to see reporting professional
> misconduct described as a 'grass-up'. It is that attitude that allows
> incompetent, dangerous and unprofessional doctors to rely on others not
> to report them.
I see a considerable difference between Bristol and Ambridge. The former
was an outrageous cover-up which resulted in deaths; the latter is a
simple case of a relationship forming between a doctor and his patient
who live in the same village and bump into each other all the time.
I think that sexual relationships of this kind should be of no concern
to any but those directly concerned, unless there is a clear reason to
doubt integrity or motive.
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Simon Townley
wrote:
> Speaking of which, has anyone noticed any change in Boots 60g
> vitamin C powder recently?
Not specifically, but Boots are an extremely annoying company who change
the appearance, packaging, flavour and chemical content of their own-brand
vitamin range far too often, in my humble.
--
Simon Townley
Rosalind C Mitchell
<si...@sudbury.demon.co.uk> writes
>Not specifically, but Boots are an extremely annoying company who change
>the appearance, packaging, flavour and chemical content of their own-brand
>vitamin range far too often, in my humble.
And can you get Boots Multi-Minerals when you want them? Not on your
nelly!
Ros
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Charles Norrie
<A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM> writes
>the latter is a
>simple case of a relationship forming between a doctor and his patient
>who live in the same village and bump into each other all the time.
~~~~
I undertsnad.
-
Charles Norrie
Charles F Hankel
>
> In article <35D6C8A9...@hankel.mersinet.co.uk>, Charles F Hankel
> <um...@hankel.mersinet.co.uk> writes
> >What disturbs me about the situation is DocDick's sudden telephone call
> >to his chum about moving into his practice in Manchester. When did this
> >chum first come onto the scene? - I appear to have missed this.
>
> The Manchester job offer was first mentioned when he was deciding to
> dump Usha and move out to the surgery.
Thank you. This must have come when a friend (?) telephoned during the
omni and I forgot to not answer the phone, probably due to a dire TA
script. It still seems like a now-get-out-of-that-one pass though.
Charles F Hankel
>
> In article <35D6CAD9...@hankel.mersinet.co.uk>, Charles F Hankel
> <um...@hankel.mersinet.co.uk> writes
> >Liz Blades wrote:
> >>
> >> andy...@aol.com (andy roberts) wrote:
> >
> >> >I for one, hope she goes to Mankyland , but it does seem a bit tough
> >> >on daniel.
> >>
> >> Oy,- what's wrong with Manchester? apart from the fact that it is in
> >> the south AFAIAC.
> >
> >About the only decent thing in Manchester is Lancashire County Cricket
> >Club's ground. Lancs prove their superiority over all other counties
> >time and again by using the rainiest city as the location of its home
> >ground, especially as it is down south.
>
> It is the home of Boddingtons, which used to be a fine beer.
Exactly; which "used to be" a fine beer. My point stands.
Chris McMillan
<URL:mailto:Mi...@mikesounds.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <ATudqGA+...@leton.demon.co.uk>, George Middleton
> <URL:mailto:Mi...@leton.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> Toodle Pip (Charles, OPEN THAT BUNKER DOOR - QUICKLY!!!!),
>
> Chocolatey Munch-Munch, no, no tea thanks, I'm agnostic,
>
> Mike
>
So that's what he's been up to in my absence all week: well I've been an
omnivore now and caught up with TA, but I promise not to Gilliver.
Sincerely, Chris
--
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Robert Carnegie
Andrew Wineberg <A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM> writes
>Snappy's activities today have really turned me against him. Yesterday
>he more or less threatened 3d with a grass-up to the BMA. Today, he
>continues playing on Danul's emotions in an attempt to blackmail Shula
>into a permanent relationship which was never on the cards, as I saw it,
>in any case.
I have just caught up and, as always, disagree. Except in paying a
call before (perhaps late) breakfast at all, he behaved as correctly
towards Daniel as he has towards Shula. He even correctly
discounted Daniel's invitation to breakfast, as dictated the
Victorian book I own in facsimile (and must someday read),
'Manners for Men'.
Apparently there wasn't time for Shula to unburden herself to
Janet in our hearing, but she understands that "Alistair still has a
chance" - though it's mischievous of Janet to suggest that Shula
tells him so, since he has now dealt himself out of her life unless
she indicates otherwise, permitting a simplified endgame. They'll
all still be mooning over it at Christmas at that rate.
Incidentally, it occurs to _me_ that each SW's stint ends on a
Friday, suggesting a "Now get out of that" situation with Friday
episodes rather than "Don't miss Sunday's when all will be
revealed" - Mary Cutler(Hi, Mary)'s setup of Richard saying "I'm off
to Manchester, I know you said you didn't want to come but how
about it?" seems not to have been addressed explicitly by (who
he?) Adrian Flynn.
I suspect the answer was "No, don't go" followed by "Let me think
about it".
Robert Carnegie at home, rja.ca...@mailexcite.com at large
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Mitchell <r...@aida.demon.co.uk> writes
>In article <simon-16089...@sudbury.demon.co.uk>, Simon
>Townley
><si...@sudbury.demon.co.uk> writes
>>Not specifically, but Boots are an extremely annoying company who change
>>the appearance, packaging, flavour and chemical content of their own-brand
>>vitamin range far too often, in my humble.
>
>And can you get Boots Multi-Minerals when you want them? Not on your
>nelly!
You wait ages for a mineral and then they all come at once?
Robert Carnegie
<ste...@redestb.es> writes
>
> There's no way that Sssss will uproot herself and leave,in fact I'm
>inclining to the belief that she might cave to the brainwashing that snappy
>is giving her and admit that "it was all a big mistake, I'm a really nice
>person,and the nasty Dickdoc took advantage of my vulnerable state.Now will
>everyone love me again,please?"
>
>Then she'll marry snappy,and discover that the reason there were so many
>arguments and silences in his previous marriage was that he's an immature
>selfish controlling shit,who can't stand not to have his own way in everything.
No, he's not like that at all; he's charming, hilarious, forbearing,
and not pushy, which is how he inadvertently came to let Richard
pinch his girl. He should have taken a leaf from the doctor's book
re Usha and moved in when Daniel was ill "to help" - though, of
course, their relationship suffered because all the being-a-nice-
guy he could muster couldn't help Daniel: it took weeks in hospital
to do that.
Both Richard and Shula said they were sure that they weren't just
attracted to each other as doctor and grateful patient (patient's
parent), but I don't believe that any more.
andy roberts
uk.media.radio.archers :
>While I don't necessarily disagree with you, if Shula has to make a
>logical decision, the result of that decision should be to dump the pair
>of them.
>
>What disturbs me about the situation is DocDick's sudden telephone call
>to his chum about moving into his practice in Manchester. When did this
>chum first come onto the scene? - I appear to have missed this. Or is
>it the route out of a storyline that one SW has chosen, more as a
>now-get-out-of-that-one pass to the next SW than as the reult of any
>prior mention?
No , you missed it. He first told shula he was thinking of moving to
Manc. so she could think about how much she would miss him, then he
told Usha he was moving to Manc without her as a way of breaking the
bad news. So it's been on his mind for some time.
But this is a minutia, the big question is whether Shula will go with
him. I think she will. People whose personalities exhibit sudden big
changes are often tempted by the opportunity to make a fresh start in
a new social environment. Ambridge is holding her back, she really
needs to break free , please please.
andy roberts
uk.media.radio.archers :
>And can you get Boots Multi-Minerals when you want them? Not on your
>nelly!
>
That's terrible. I'd complain about it if I were you.
Joe Boswell
<A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM> writes
>In message <FrXDiRAQ...@bigbad.demon.co.uk>
> Joe Boswell <j...@bigbad.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> [1] It is disturbing, after the revelations about the cover-up that
>> protected the Bristol surgeons for years, to see reporting professional
>> misconduct described as a 'grass-up'. It is that attitude that allows
>> incompetent, dangerous and unprofessional doctors to rely on others not
>> to report them.
>
>I see a considerable difference between Bristol and Ambridge. The former
>simple case of a relationship forming between a doctor and his patient
>who live in the same village and bump into each other all the time.
>
>to any but those directly concerned, unless there is a clear reason to
>doubt integrity or motive.
This is the point, though. People tend to decide for themselves that an
incident will not be reported to the relevant authority or professional
body. This is usurping the function of the professional body. There is a
prima facie case for Doc Dick to answer. As listeners to TA we know more
about the relationship of Doc Dick and Shula than the other inhabitants
of Ambridge. It must appear to them pretty much as Alistair's rant
described it, because it is factual to say Doc Dick has commenced a
relationship with a single mother who is his patient at a time when she
was in a very emotional state about the health of her only child.
Reporting him would not be judging him, it would alerting the GMC to a
situation where there is legitimate concern, so that the GMC can
investigate and determine whether Doc Dick has behaved improperly. The
process worked last time, when he was reported by Barraclough.
If conduct is reported to the GMC and found to contravene the rules, but
public and professional opinion says that the conduct was acceptable
[e.g. in this instance, if everyone took your view that the relationship
was a personal matter of no concern to anyone else], the GMC should
reform its rules. Having rules that are not respected and therefore
ignored brings the whole system into disrepute. It is better to report
things and then point out the absurdities so that the faults are
addressed than to continually 'work around' the problem.
George Middleton
>No, not at all -- I'm ashamed to admit we are of one accord. I just hate
>being marginalised - so I let others express what I fear may be a
>minority opinion - until it feels safe to join in. But I am working
>hard on overcoming this little problem -- I have a model...oh yes...but
>she's not doing much modelling of late :-(
Um. Half pas ten on a Saturday night. Isn't there an emoticon for "hic"?
--
George
Charles Norrie
<rja.ca...@mailexcite.com> writes
>No, he's not like that at all; he's charming, hilarious, forbearing,
>and not pushy, which is how he inadvertently came to let Richard
>pinch his girl. He should have taken a leaf from the doctor's book
>re Usha and moved in when Daniel was ill "to help" - though, of
>course, their relationship suffered because all the being-a-nice-
>guy he could muster couldn't help Daniel: it took weeks in hospital
>to do that.
>
It would have been much better for us all if Snappy had challenged
Dicdoc to a meeting round the back of Lakey Hill at the usual time, dawn
I believe, by sending his second to call on Dicdoc. Weapons, used
syringes, old stethoscopes, retractors etc at 100 yds and both heroes
dying gallantly leaving StS to rip her weeds in grief, who pines away on
the banks of the Am. Such an example to the younger generation, Kate and
Roay, Highly and Tinny.
Or else, one hideously wounded (so we can hear it every time he appears
on air) the survivor weds the fair StS who is constantly reminded of her
lack of constancy.
--
Charles Norrie
Helen Brace
Simon Townley wrote in message ...
>In article <73MjUSAq...@montaigne.demon.co.uk>, i...@nospam.demon.co.uk
>wrote:
>
>> Speaking of which, has anyone noticed any change in Boots 60g
>> vitamin C powder recently?
>
>the appearance, packaging, flavour and chemical content of their own-brand
>vitamin range far too often, in my humble.
>
Nottingham. When the series of ads came out, 'Some one cares', most people
had decided that 'Someone' might care, but it wasn't Boots. A short time
after I started working for them, they sold the devision to a german
company. So, they didn't care much about us!
Helen B
Mayes
Joe Boswell wrote in message ...
>In article <487698D13C%A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM>, Andrew Wineberg
><A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM> writes
>>In message <FrXDiRAQ...@bigbad.demon.co.uk>
>> Joe Boswell <j...@bigbad.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>>I think that sexual relationships of this kind should be of no
concern
>>to any but those directly concerned, unless there is a clear reason
to
>>doubt integrity or motive.
I'm inclined to agree, but that doesn't stop people moralising about
them and causing people in the public eye, notably politicians, to
suffer the consequences.
>This is the point, though. People tend to decide for themselves that
an
>incident will not be reported to the relevant authority or
professional
>body. This is usurping the function of the professional body. There
is a
>prima facie case for Doc Dick to answer. As listeners to TA we know
more
>about the relationship of Doc Dick and Shula than the other
inhabitants
>of Ambridge.
<snipped a lot of reasons why the GMC should be informed of the
situation and allowed to make up their own mind(s)>
So, should we, the listeners, inform the GMC? 8Ź)
Chris J Dixon
> Rosalind C Mitchell <r...@aida.demon.co.uk> writes
>>Simon Townley <si...@sudbury.demon.co.uk> writes
>>>Not specifically, but Boots are an extremely annoying company who change
>>>the appearance, packaging, flavour and chemical content of their own-brand
>>>vitamin range far too often, in my humble.
>>
>>And can you get Boots Multi-Minerals when you want them? Not on your
>>nelly!
>
>You wait ages for a mineral and then they all come at once?
Well, the mines have nearly all closed, you see.
I use http://www.demon.co.uk/larkhall/
but have never actually compared prices.
Chris
--
Chris J Dixon Nottingham
'48/49/21 M B+ G+ A L(-) I S-- P- CH-(--) Ar++ T+ H0
chris...@easynet.co.uk
Have dancing shoes, will ceilidh.
Chris J Dixon
>the latter is a
>simple case of a relationship forming between a doctor and his patient
>who live in the same village and bump into each other all the time.
Bonk!
There they go again
Andrew Wineberg
Andrew Wineberg <A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM> wrote:
> Snappy's activities today have really turned me against him. [etc.]
Well, since no-one agrees with me, perhaps I should clarify a little.
I think that Sain't was never as close to Snappy as he is now making
out, and he was also not terribly bothered until 3d became involved. I
think that he is using Danul's emotions as a means to an end - he has
been getting the better of Danul's effections and making quite clear to
Sain't (if not to other umrats) that Danul will suffer if she chooses 3d
over him.
I hth.
Steve Holden
--
Robert Carnegie wrote in message <1cJ2b5Al...@redjac.demon.co.uk>...
>In article <6r6e7h$gvf$1...@diana.bcn.ibernet.es>, Steve Holden
><ste...@redestb.es> writes
>>Then she'll marry snappy,and discover that the reason there were so many
>>arguments and silences in his previous marriage was that he's an immature
>>selfish controlling shit,who can't stand not to have his own way in
everything.
>
>No, he's not like that at all; he's charming, hilarious, forbearing,
>and not pushy, which is how he inadvertently came to let Richard
>pinch his girl. He should have taken a leaf from the doctor's book
>re Usha and moved in when Daniel was ill "to help" - though, of
>course, their relationship suffered because all the being-a-nice-
>guy he could muster couldn't help Daniel: it took weeks in hospital
>to do that.
>
>Both Richard and Shula said they were sure that they weren't just
>attracted to each other as doctor and grateful patient (patient's
>parent), but I don't believe that any more.
bbbut the reason he got all snappy in the first place was that St s
refused to indulge him when Daniel was ill , and he wanted to go out or come
over or give Daniel his medicine because he didn't believe that D was really
all that sick...so I stand by my assertion that he's unable to accept that
he can't always have his own way,he stomps off and becomes
uncommunicative...ok if he can be left to fester and recover maybe,but not
much good in a marriage situation,and this IMHO must have contributed to his
divorce.
Steve suspicious
http://personal.redestb.es/steven/flower%20brooch%20page.html
Mary Kemp
<URL:mailto:andy...@aol.com> wrote:
> a new social environment. Ambridge is holding her back, she really
> needs to break free , please please.
Andy, don't let your selfish desire to have TSS take her whining and
dithering elsewhere blind you to the realities. One could have a certain
sympathy with this view but I am from the north and therefore a stoic.
Jahn's cottage is empty, UT's cottage is empty, Nelson's cottage was supposed
to be on the market but there is no word of an incomer yet. In a village
close enough to Brum for commuting (cf Highly) is this really feasible? (The
people who want to build houses at Sawyer's Farm seem confident enough of
selling them).
Was Mrs Barraclough's house ever sold? Or did it vanish in the puff of green
smoke along with her son? . Please don't ask that Glebe Cottage join the
estate agent's lists. Soon there will be insufficient income in rates to
support the place. Piggy is quite a businesswoman, so why does she let prime
empty properties languish?
However, I don't see Shula being able to leave Ambridge. She is living in the
cottage left her by her grandmother and has a free support system to hand.
Could she forsake that and her huntin' lifestyle to go and live in Manchester
with the charmless mcp Doctor Dick?
--
Mary SODAM. PISS Artiste (LSS), Keeper of the Golden Bog Brush.
NB. Anti-spam strategy.
Please take the mickey out of me when replying
ma...@mickey.marykemp.demon.co.uk
Simon Townley
<ste...@redestb.es> wrote:
> so I stand by my assertion that he's unable to accept that
> he can't always have his own way,he stomps off and becomes
> uncommunicative...ok if he can be left to fester and recover maybe,but not
> much good in a marriage situation
Worked OK for my grandfather for more than fifty years.
--
Simon Townley
Iain Archer
>>vitamin C powder recently?
>
>
that you tend to get in soaps and suchlike. I did actually find myself
wondering if it was done deliberately as a kind of spoiler - they keep
the stuff under the counter now, and I was even asked if it was for my
own use (apparently it's used to cut illicit drugs) - though it's
probably more likely to be ineptness.
In any case, I'm not very trustful of them after they rejected my
complaint several years ago that a particular can of 'fragrance free'
shaving foam wasn't (I've been avoiding fragrances and other fumy things
for years), so was looking for supporting evidence.
--
Iain Archer i...@montaigne.demon appended_to .co.uk
Peter Hesketh
<A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM> writes
>
>I hth.
>
Bless you.
--
Regards, Peter Hesketh Monmouthshire UK
Twenty reasons why chocolate is better than sex: number 19
"You are never too young or too old for chocolate."
David Goddard
> Speaking of which, has anyone noticed any change in Boots 60g
> vitamin C powder recently?
Er, are you *sure* that was Vitamin C powder? <g>
--
David Goddard ~ Check my headers to reply by e-mail
Every file you take, every move you make, syslog's watching you.
- from welcome message at ftp.cybernothing.org
Chris McMillan
> andy roberts wrote in message <35d58c49...@news.zetnet.co.uk>...
> >Andrew Wineberg <A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM> posted to
> >uk.media.radio.archers :
> There's no way that Sssss will uproot herself and leave.
I doubt if she'd be daft enough to let down Chris: and she is the eldest of
the next generation (with K, I know) so I would expect her to remain in the
fold - but she could be heading for being without both Snappy and DocLoc
(maybe Snappy will now go to the Bike). I nearly changed that to something
else but decided not to - just think about it.
Liz Blades
>Mayes wrote on Sun, 16 Aug 1998
>>
>>Iain Archer wrote in message
>><73MjUSAq...@montaigne.demon.co.uk>...
>>>
>>>Speaking of which, has anyone noticed any change in Boots 60g
>>>vitamin C powder recently?
>>
>>Umm, no... but I don't use it. What have they done to it Iain?
>>
>Well my latest lot has one of those indefinable (to me) fragrances to it
>that you tend to get in soaps and suchlike. I did actually find myself
>wondering if it was done deliberately as a kind of spoiler - they keep
>the stuff under the counter now, and I was even asked if it was for my
>own use (apparently it's used to cut illicit drugs) - though it's
>probably more likely to be ineptness.
>In any case, I'm not very trustful of them after they rejected my
>complaint several years ago that a particular can of 'fragrance free'
>shaving foam wasn't (I've been avoiding fragrances and other fumy things
>for years), so was looking for supporting evidence.
If you really want to cause mischief go in and ask for citric
acid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Explanation available to anyone who wants it.
Liz
Charles Norrie
<ma...@marykemp.demon.co.uk> writes
>Jahn's cottage is empty, UT's cottage is empty, Nelson's cottage was supposed
>to be on the market but there is no word of an incomer yet. In a village
>close enough to Brum for commuting (cf Highly) is this really feasible? (The
>people who want to build houses at Sawyer's Farm seem confident enough of
>selling them).
>
--
Charles Norrie
Joe Boswell
>been getting the better of Danul's effections and making quite clear to
>Sain't (if not to other umrats) that Danul will suffer if she chooses 3d
>over him.
This is the second time you've said this. Can you quote any incident
that supports it? The only relevant bits I remember support the opposite
view; Alistair has been careful to make it clear that, so long as it is
what Shula wants, his relationship with Daniel will not be changed by
any decision Shula takes concerning her and Alistair.
Or are you suggesting that the mere fact that Daniel is apparently more
friendly to Alistair than Doc Dick is proof of some sort of
Machiavellian scheme by Alistair? Do you subscribe to some code of
behaviour that requires suitors to reject any form of friendliness with
their beloved's bairns, at least until they've tied the knot?
I'm really puzzled.
Joe Boswell
<Cha...@geodeon.demon.co.uk> writes
>Or else, one hideously wounded (so we can hear it every time he appears
>on air) the survivor weds the fair StS who is constantly reminded of her
>lack of constancy.
Then she could roam Lakey Hill in a long black veil,
and cry on his grave when the night winds wail...
Joe Boswell
Trembath <ptre...@compuserve.com> writes
>But if two competent, consenting adults decide to have sex - however
>confused
>they are about it - what does that have to do with the BMA?
Nothing at all to do with the BMA up this point. However, if one of the
adults is a GP and therefore subject to the rules of professional
conduct administered by the GMC, and if the other adult is a patient,
there is a prima facie case of professional misconduct to be
investigated. If an investigation is carried out, the GP may wish to be
represented through the BMA.
HTH.
If GPs and others feel that this rule is silly they should get it
changed, not evade it. Then again, how easy do you feel with the notion
that your GP might be trying to get it on with each and every patient
that the quack fancies, including you & yours, no matter what state the
patient is in?
Liz Blades
>Charles Norrie wrote:
>> It is the home of Boddingtons, which used to be a fine beer.
>Exactly; which "used to be" a fine beer. My point stands.
Hope I've got the attributions right
I agree with Charles,"used to be" is about right.
I'm not going to say which brewery was searching for finings the other
week because they'd had a slight er hiccup in production.
Liz
>--
>Charles F Hankel
>-------------------------------------
>Hapless FAQer on the Wirral peninsula
Jenny M Benson
<rja.ca...@mailexcite.com> writes
>He even correctly
>discounted Daniel's invitation to breakfast, as dictated the
>Victorian book I own in facsimile (and must someday read),
>'Manners for Men'.
Ah, mystery solved after all these years. Many long times ago my sister
and I were strolling along a pavement with our boyfriends, the four of
us side-by-side: my sister on the inside, the two lads in the middle and
me next to the road. My sister's boyfriend said to mine "Hey J., you
should let your bird walk on the inside." "Why?" "It's manners.
That's right, isn't it Jenny? ... I read it in a book."
"I read it in a book" passed into family folklore and is oft repeated.
Now I know which book K. had been reading.
--
Jenny M Benson
Mayes
Liz Blades wrote in message <6ra7jn$2...@neon.airtime.co.uk>...
>Iain Archer <i...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Mayes wrote on Sun, 16 Aug 1998
>>>
>>>Iain Archer wrote in message
>>><73MjUSAq...@montaigne.demon.co.uk>...
>>>>
>>>>Speaking of which, has anyone noticed any change in Boots 60g
>>>>vitamin C powder recently?
>>>
>>>Umm, no... but I don't use it. What have they done to it Iain?
>
>acid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>Explanation available to anyone who wants it.
Come clean Liz. I used to use that when I was brewing.
Penny Mayes pe...@bredgar.globaCAPnet.co.uk remove cap to reply
Charles F Hankel
>
> However, I don't see Shula being able to leave Ambridge. She is living in the
> cottage left her by her grandmother and has a free support system to hand.
> Could she forsake that and her huntin' lifestyle to go and live in Manchester
> with the charmless mcp Doctor Dick?
Though she would fit in very well with the Cheshire set and I daresay
that "Manchester" to many at Pebble Mill covers half of Cheshire anyway.
Charles F Hankel
>
> Joe Boswell wrote in message ...
> ><A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM> writes
> >>In message <FrXDiRAQ...@bigbad.demon.co.uk>
> >> Joe Boswell <j...@bigbad.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>I think that sexual relationships of this kind should be of no
> concern
> >>to any but those directly concerned, unless there is a clear reason
> to
> >>doubt integrity or motive.
>
> I'm inclined to agree, but that doesn't stop people moralising about
> them and causing people in the public eye, notably politicians, to
> suffer the consequences.
>
> > This is the point, though. People tend to decide for themselves that
> > an incident will not be reported to the relevant authority or
> > professional body. This is usurping the function of the professional
> > to TA we know more about the relationship of Doc Dick and Shula than
> > the other inhabitants of Ambridge.
>
> <snipped a lot of reasons why the GMC should be informed of the
> situation and allowed to make up their own mind(s)>
>
Yes, let's "grass him up", "dob him in", "rat on him" ...
Robert Carnegie
Boswell <j...@bigbad.demon.co.uk> writes
>If GPs and others feel that this rule is silly they should get it
>changed, not evade it. Then again, how easy do you feel with the notion
>that your GP might be trying to get it on with each and every patient
>that the quack fancies, including you & yours, no matter what state the
>patient is in?
And prescribing accordingly, too..."These tablets will help you to
relax, my darling..."
Robert Carnegie at home, rja.ca...@mailexcite.com at large
--
"CAN YOU GIVE a home to a stray? Please state if a cat or dog is
required, and enclose a stamped, addressed envelope."
Robert Carnegie
Simon Townley <si...@sudbury.demon.co.uk> writes
And for Phil & Jill - up to a point. They don't enjoy it, but they get
over it. So
(1) Alistair reminds Shula of Phil (that's good, isn't it?)
(2) She knows it works as a modus vivendi
If "Alistair still has a chance" is Janet's summing-up of what Shula
told her, it logically follows that Shula must have decided _not_ to
go to Manchester with Richard (but maybe hasn't told Richard yet -
here we go again).
This does not mean that Shula and Alistair will get back together,
hence 'chance'.
Robert Carnegie
Boswell <j...@bigbad.demon.co.uk> writes
>In article <48772463BE%A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM>, Andrew
>Wineberg
><A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM> writes
>>he has
>>been getting the better of Danul's effections and making quite clear to
>>Sain't (if not to other umrats) that Danul will suffer if she chooses 3d
>>over him.
>
>This is the second time you've said this. Can you quote any incident
>that supports it? The only relevant bits I remember support the opposite
>view; Alistair has been careful to make it clear that, so long as it is
>what Shula wants, his relationship with Daniel will not be changed by
>any decision Shula takes concerning her and Alistair.
Admittedly, Caroline pointed out that this could not practically be
entirely true. Alistair may enjoy Daniel's company, but if Alistair
and Shula had amicably split up after Daniel's illness then Alistair
and Daniel would only meet by chance, or over an injured cat or
other domestic pet, or maybe at the stables or very occasional
babysitting. And, presumably, Alistair would look for another
girlfriend, who might then object to him continuing a close
relationship with his ex's little boy and, by implication, with Shula.
andy roberts
uk.media.radio.archers :
>But if two competent, consenting adults decide to have sex - however
>confused
>they are about it - what does that have to do with the BMA?
It is important for the relationship that the doctor has with ALL of
his/her patients that the possibility of a sexual relationship is
completely ruled out.
It's a bit like not being able to marry your brother's ex-wife , etc.
There is no genetic in-breeding problem but you should all get along
better if you all know clearly what is out of bounds.
Andy R
--
For earlier replies mail me at andyrobts AT zetnet d0t co d0t uk.
andy roberts
:
>>>Speaking of which, has anyone noticed any change in Boots 60g
>>>vitamin C powder recently?
>>
>>Umm, no... but I don't use it. What have they done to it Iain?
>>
>Well my latest lot has one of those indefinable (to me) fragrances to it
>that you tend to get in soaps and suchlike. I did actually find myself
>wondering if it was done deliberately as a kind of spoiler - they keep
>the stuff under the counter now, and I was even asked if it was for my
>own use (apparently it's used to cut illicit drugs) - though it's
>probably more likely to be ineptness.
>
>In any case, I'm not very trustful of them after they rejected my
>complaint several years ago that a particular can of 'fragrance free'
>shaving foam wasn't (I've been avoiding fragrances and other fumy things
>for years), so was looking for supporting evidence.
I'd like to complain about fragrances on bus tickets. There I was ,
sitting down clutching my ticket and thinking the person in front was
wearing horrible sickly perfume when I noticed on the reverse side of
the ticket a scratch and sniff advertisement for washing powder.
It's the one in the bright orange packaging. Don't buy it, it smells
terrible.
Charles Norrie
<um...@hankel.mersinet.co.uk> writes
>Exactly; which "used to be" a fine beer. My point stands.
>
What about Holt's then? Gone also? Large onion etc....
--
Charles Norrie
Charles Norrie
<j...@bigbad.demon.co.uk> writes
>In article <Bok$2BASL9...@geodeon.demon.co.uk>, Charles Norrie
><Cha...@geodeon.demon.co.uk> writes
>>Or else, one hideously wounded (so we can hear it every time he appears
>>on air) the survivor weds the fair StS who is constantly reminded of her
>>lack of constancy.
>
>Then she could roam Lakey Hill in a long black veil,
>and cry on his grave when the night winds wail...
And have a statue carved in Italy of her now disfigured lover as a Greek
athlete, which she worships alone in the library, which her cruel
husband has cruelly deformed (the statue, not the library) with his
cruel wounds.
--
Charles Norrie
Robin Fairbairns
Liz Blades <bla...@airtime.co.uk> wrote:
>If you really want to cause mischief go in and ask for citric
>acid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i'd noticed that was no longer on the shelves. i used to use it for
making lemonade (v. old recipe) ...
>Explanation available to anyone who wants it.
by the sound of it you're only going to tell us privately.
i suppose i need to ask you to email me.
sigh.
(it's *such* a strain receiving mail from umrats, don't you find? ;^)
--
I live in the crowd of jollity, not so much to enjoy company as to shun
myself. -- Samuel Johnson
Robin Fairbairns
Liz Blades <bla...@airtime.co.uk> wrote:
>Charles F Hankel <um...@hankel.mersinet.co.uk> wrote:
>>Charles Norrie wrote:
>>Exactly; which "used to be" a fine beer. My point stands.
being a southerner, i've only ever encountered the modern version.
some people seem to like it (but then as elgood's master brewer once
said to me, some people go for a `stainless steel and plastic taste' in
lager).
>Hope I've got the attributions right
think you did.
>I agree with Charles,"used to be" is about right.
>
>I'm not going to say which brewery was searching for finings the other
>week because they'd had a slight er hiccup in production.
we'll draw an isinglass curtain over that one, eh?
Kate Brown
andy roberts <andy...@aol.com> wrote
>But this is a minutia, the big question is whether Shula will go with
>him. I think she will. People whose personalities exhibit sudden big
>changes are often tempted by the opportunity to make a fresh start in
>a new social environment. Ambridge is holding her back, she really
>needs to break free , please please.
Wouldn't it be a relief? However, my guess is that she'll go (big fuss
lasting at least a week), and stay about three months, or however long
Ms Bennett's surely long overdue leave must be; then return repentant
to the collective bosom and pinch Alistair back off Caroline, who has
been keeping him in working order.
--
Ermintrude
Mayes
andy roberts wrote in message
>
>It's a bit like not being able to marry your brother's ex-wife ,
etc.
Huh? Is this actually illegal? Time was when you *had* to marry your
brother's widow!
Penny Mayes pe...@bredgar.globalCAPnet.co.uk remove cap to reply
Andrew Wineberg
Joe Boswell <j...@bigbad.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <48772463BE%A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM>, Andrew Wineberg
> <A.Win...@BTINTERNET.COM> writes
> >he has
> >been getting the better of Danul's effections and making quite clear to
> >Sain't (if not to other umrats) that Danul will suffer if she chooses 3d
> >over him.
>
> This is the second time you've said this. Can you quote any incident
> that supports it?
Not of the top of my head. Perhaps I'm giving Michael Lumsden (the
Snappy actor) too much credit and the subtle intonations that I am
reading are merely artefacts of his acting. It just seems to me that he
is using Danul to get into the Sain't.
> The only relevant bits I remember support the opposite
> view; Alistair has been careful to make it clear that, so long as it is
> what Shula wants, his relationship with Daniel will not be changed by
> any decision Shula takes concerning her and Alistair.
I read reverse psychology undertones into that. I don't think that he
eally believed that Sain't would believe him in so saying; more likely
IMO it would have the reverse effect. Do you see what I mean?
> Or are you suggesting that the mere fact that Daniel is apparently more
> friendly to Alistair than Doc Dick is proof of some sort of
> Machiavellian scheme by Alistair?
Danul likes Snappy and Snappy likes Danul - so far so good. I do believe
that Snappy's attentions are motivated by external concerns, although I
have no reason to doubt their sincerity.
> I'm really puzzled.
I'd have done better to keep my mouth shut. Any clearer?
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andy roberts
uk.media.radio.archers :
So you think she will go ? Good. But wait , in the long run we would
lose the doctor for the sake of 3 months relief from Shula.
I don't know how long it will take for the GMC hearing to reach a
conclusion but it may well be 3 months , after which Doc will be
jobless, and so perhaps they can come back as a couple.
Shula will re-negotiate the contract for the stables after leaving
before signing it last time, and Rich can be full time in charge of
Daniel's health problems and keeping the cupboards well stocked with
marmalade.
Jenny M Benson
<um...@hankel.mersinet.co.uk> writes
>Yes, let's "grass him up", "dob him in", "rat on him" ...
Tell-tale tit
Your mother can't knit
Your father can't walk
Without a walking stick.
--
Jenny M Benson
Lin26R
<jen...@west-runton.demon.co.uk> writes:
>Tell-tale tit
>Your mother can't knit
>Your father can't walk
>Without a walking stick.
Scottish alternative:
Tell tale tit
Yer mither canna knit
Your faither canna go to bed
Wi'oot a dummy tit.
Kate Lambert
<andy...@aol.com> writes
>It's a bit like not being able to marry your brother's ex-wife , etc.
>better if you all know clearly what is out of bounds.
Except that that's been legal since about 1920 (can't remember the exact
date but it had to do with there being lots of women wanting to marry the
brothers of their husbands who'd been killed in WWI and the fact that it had
been OK to marry your dead wife's sister since about 1907).
Of course this implies that the sibling is dead, not divorced.
--
Kate Lambert
Charles F Hankel
>
> I'd like to complain about fragrances on bus tickets. There I was ,
> sitting down clutching my ticket and thinking the person in front was
> wearing horrible sickly perfume when I noticed on the reverse side of
> the ticket a scratch and sniff advertisement for washing powder.
>
> It's the one in the bright orange packaging. Don't buy it, it smells
> terrible.
Oxydol?
Charles F Hankel
> etc.
>
> brother's widow!
No longer (phew!) thanks to female emancipation.
Charles F Hankel
>
> In article <35D75CE8...@hankel.mersinet.co.uk>, Charles F Hankel
> <um...@hankel.mersinet.co.uk> writes
>
> >
Don't know. I used to frequent the Station (?) by Cheadle Hulme
station; not for the Holt's but because it had a full-size snooker table
and was opposite the office.
Mary Kemp
Tell-tale tit
Your tongue shall be split
And all the little dickie birds
Shall have a little bit.
--
Mary SODAM. PISS Artiste (LSS), Keeper of the Golden Bog Brush.
NB. Anti-spam strategy.
Please take the mickey out of me when replying
ma...@mickey.marykemp.demon.co.uk
Steve Holden
>In article <simon-17089...@sudbury.demon.co.uk>,
>Simon Townley <si...@sudbury.demon.co.uk> writes
>>In article <6r9rn7$a0d$1...@diana.bcn.ibernet.es>, "Steve Holden"
>><ste...@redestb.es> wrote:
>And for Phil & Jill - up to a point. They don't enjoy it, but they get
>over it. So
>(1) Alistair reminds Shula of Phil (that's good, isn't it?)
>(2) She knows it works as a modus vivendi
>
>If "Alistair still has a chance" is Janet's summing-up of what Shula
>told her, it logically follows that Shula must have decided _not_ to
>go to Manchester with Richard (but maybe hasn't told Richard yet -
>here we go again).
Considering that Shula has agreed to go to a church conference in
November(?) and is embroiled in the legalese of forming a partnership with
Christine,I can't see that she has thought about going to Personchester for
one single minute.So DicDoc pisses off as soon as the going threatens to get
tough,and Schh is quite willing to let him go now that she's had a
bitofafling...my god these people are emotional cripples nesspah?
Steve sickened
http://personal.redestb.es/steven/flower%20brooch%20page.html
Charles Norrie
<ste...@redestb.es> writes
> Personchester
Please - male descendantism
Perchildchester
Piscism
Fishildchester
Anatomism
Fishildbodyparter
--
Charles Norrie
andy roberts
uk.media.radio.archers :
Specialism
Fishildbodypsubjecter
Rosalind C Mitchell
<andy...@aol.com> writes
>
>Fishildbodypsubjecter
As a matter of interest, what should somebody called Chapman who came
from this place really be called?
Rosalind
--
Rosalind C Mitchell
Phone/Fax 0117 903 1985
http://www.aida.demon.co.uk/rosie/homepage.html
ICQ: 13609015
andy roberts
uk.media.radio.archers :
>In article <35dc172d...@news.zetnet.co.uk>, andy roberts
><andy...@aol.com> writes
>>
>>Fishildbodypsubjecter
>
>As a matter of interest, what should somebody called Chapman who came
>from this place really be called?
Michael.
Charles F Hankel
>
> In article <35dc172d...@news.zetnet.co.uk>, andy roberts
> <andy...@aol.com> writes
> >
> >Fishildbodypsubjecter
>
> As a matter of interest, what should somebody called Chapman who came
> from this place really be called?
Graham.
Jenny M Benson
<Cha...@geodeon.demon.co.uk> writes
>> Personchester
>
>Please - male descendantism
>
> Perchildchester
>
>Piscism
>
> Fishildchester
>
>Anatomism
>
> Fishildbodyparter
Don't stop now, I was enjoying that.
--
Jenny M Benson
Steve Holden
andy roberts wrote in message <35dc6032...@news.zetnet.co.uk>...
>><andy...@aol.com> writes
>>>
>>>Fishildbodypsubjecter
>>
>>As a matter of interest, what should somebody called Chapman who came
>>from this place really be called?
>
'Ees from 'Ul innee?
Steve exPolar Bear regular
http://personal.redestb.es/steven/flower%20brooch%20page.html
Rosalind C Mitchell
<ste...@redestb.es> writes
>'Ees from 'Ul innee?
>Steve exPolar Bear regular
Used to use the St Johns ("Little Queens") myself.
Ros
andy roberts
>>>As a matter of interest, what should somebody called Chapman who came
>>>from this place really be called?
>>
>>Michael.
>
>
>'Ees from 'Ul innee?
dunno.
>Steve exPolar Bear regular
Fandango?
>http://personal.redestb.es/steven/flower%20brooch%20page.html
Steve Holden
>In article <6ridiu$ejs$1...@diana.bcn.ibernet.es>, Steve Holden
><ste...@redestb.es> writes
>>'Ees from 'Ul innee?
>>Steve exPolar Bear regular
>
>Used to use the St Johns ("Little Queens") myself.
Me too,do you remember the Zoological...tiny place ...didn't drink much
in those days though...don't drink at all now...it was the in-between years
that were the problem..
steve sober
http://personal.redestb.es/steven/flower%20brooch%20page.html
Rachel Burgess
Steve Holden wrote in message <6ridiu$ejs$1...@diana.bcn.ibernet.es>...
<Snip>
>'Ees from 'Ul innee?
>Steve exPolar Bear regular
>http://personal.redestb.es/steven/flower%20brooch%20page.html
>
So you'll be reading the 'ul delly mell' then. I remember the Polar Bear -
on my way back from t'infirmary.
Steve Holden
>"Steve Holden" <ste...@redestb.es> posted to uk.media.radio.archers :
>
>>>>As a matter of interest, what should somebody called Chapman who came
>>>>from this place really be called?
>>>
>>>Michael.
>>
>>
>>'Ees from 'Ul innee?
>dunno.
>>Steve exPolar Bear regular
>
>Fandango?
Thass raht...have you heard the "ambient" all instrumental album that he
did,called something like Heartbeat? I love to get a copy if you know of it.
Steve cd addict
http://personal.redestb.es/steven/flower%20brooch%20page.html
Steve Holden
<903739568.27120.0...@news.demon.co.uk>...
Haven't seen a copy for about 20 years...it was a lovely pub though..all
Edwardian etched glass and dark wood...wonder what it's like now.
Steve yestalgic
andy roberts
>andy roberts wrote in message <35dd4bb3...@news.zetnet.co.uk>...
>>"Steve Holden" <ste...@redestb.es> posted to uk.media.radio.archers :
>>
>>>'Ees from 'Ul innee?
>>dunno.
>>>Steve exPolar Bear regular
>>
>>Fandango?
>
>
> Thass raht...have you heard the "ambient" all instrumental album that he
>did,called something like Heartbeat? I love to get a copy if you know of it.
No, the last one I found was out in 1993 , called 'still making rain'.
I have made enquiries but can't find out much about his present
itinery except that there was a gig in Preston which was cancelled.
Two of his old songs are still in my repertoire : Postcards from
Scarborough and Wrecked Again. Last saw him what, must have been
3 years ago at the mean fiddler, first time was in 1972 I think , at
pirran round in the open air with Rick Kemp on Bass and John the Fish
doing MC and support. He was the most innovative accoustic guitarist
of that generation , like young Nick Harper of today.
Steve Holden
>
>>andy roberts wrote in message <35dd4bb3...@news.zetnet.co.uk>...
>>
>> Thass raht...have you heard the "ambient" all instrumental album that
he
>>did,called something like Heartbeat? I love to get a copy if you know of
it.
>
>No, the last one I found was out in 1993 , called 'still making rain'.
>I have made enquiries but can't find out much about his present
>itinery except that there was a gig in Preston which was cancelled.
>Two of his old songs are still in my repertoire : Postcards from
>Scarborough and Wrecked Again. Last saw him what, must have been
>3 years ago at the mean fiddler, first time was in 1972 I think , at
>pirran round in the open air with Rick Kemp on Bass and John the Fish
>doing MC and support. He was the most innovative accoustic guitarist
>of that generation , like young Nick Harper of today.
I have a 1995 cd called Navigation on Planet Records:11,Newmarket
St.,Colne,Lancs.,which has some very nice stuff on it ,and Rick Kemp
too.Then there's last year's Dreaming Out Loud on Demon Records (tel.0181
847 2481)which is also interesting and has some of the man's
electronic/ambient tootlings.
I used to go and see hime on his annual return trips to Ull,where he'd
always plat solo,with is missus Andru on the mixing desk.Good gigs. I
managed to get all these and Fully Qualified Survivor on cd from Music
Boulevard in the statesvia the internet,which is pretty ironic...I'd love to
get hold of Wrecked Again,and Millstone Grit though,and Rainmaker too,some
very good pickin on that one...I still love Firewater Dreams from
Grit.....ah well...oh the BBC sessions cd is pretty good too,and will revive
memories of the gigs you saw back in the '70s.
Steve yestalgic again
http://personal.redestb.es/steven/flower%20brooch%20page.html
Steve
maz
In article <o$GycHAGy...@west-runton.demon.co.uk>, Jenny M Benson
<jen...@west-runton.demon.co.uk> writes
Howzabout:
Fishildbodyparter
Culturism
Fishildbodypcreativeexpressioner
Journalism
Fishildbodypcreativeexnewspaperioner
Tourism
Fishildbodypcreativeexnewhealthresortperioner
Consumerism
Fishildbodypcringestiveexnewhealthresortperioner
Reactionism
Fishildbodypshowembarrassmentstiveexnewhealthresortperioner
Animalism
Fishildbodypshowembarrdonkeymentstiveexnewhealthresortperioner
Sciencism
Fishildbodypshowembarrdonkeymentstiveexnewhealthresortperchargedatomer
Piscism again...
(On the whole, I think I prefer Manchester.)
8:)
------
maz
muddling along zanily
Charles Norrie
<m...@nospam.demon.co.uk> writes
>(This began: Manchester - sexism, I presume?)
>
[much snipped during correctism]
> Fishildbodypshowembarrdonkeymentstiveexnewhealthresortperchargedatomer
>
>Piscism again...
>
>
>(On the whole, I think I prefer Manchester.)
>
How about Llanfair...gogogoch, Maz?
--
Charles Norrie