Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

Feedback June 16

5 views
Skip to first unread message

Mike Ruddock

unread,
Jun 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/16/00
to
There was some comment, in today's edition of Feedback, about recent
goings-on in TA, including one correspondent who likened TA to a Greek
Tragedy. (1) Some folk thought highly of the Friday esipode, but one
couple wrote in to say that although they were long term listeners to
TA, they would not be listening again because the language Eddie used
was "far too strong" for them; they were "shocked and annoyed".

What sort of lives do these folk lead? I cannot recall at the moment,
and have no time to check back, but has anyone put "strong language"
on any of the "Things that never happens in TA" lists? My complaint
about the series, if it is in any way supposed to represent a slice of
RL, is that nobody ever swears.(2) I cannot recall a single expletive
being uttered. In a RL, the scene at the Bull depicted in that Friday
esipode would have been accompanied by rather riper language as Eddy
got worked up, and the activity he attributed to Sid wouldn't have
been "shagging" but f***ing". Do the folks who complained seriously
expect Eddy to have said "Your husband is carrying out horizontal
manoeuvres with Jolene?"

Perhaps umrats would like to suggest forms of words acceptable to
those of refined and delicate natures?

Mike Ruddock

A pedant in pedant's clothing

1. I don't recall any self blinding occuring in Ambridge, but on the
other hand Eddy and Sid have both been showing distinct signs of
hubris.

2. I am not,on the other hand, suggesting an outbreak of foul
language, but surely the SWs can come up with a form of words which
suggests that these folk do have occasions when normal language is
insufficient for their emotions?


A pedant in pedant's clothing

Kirsten Procter

unread,
Jun 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/16/00
to
In article <394a580...@news.in2home.net>, Mike Ruddock wrote:
>There was some comment, in today's edition of Feedback, about recent
>goings-on in TA,

<AJW>
There was also an e-mail from a certain Sarah Kerrison. Anyone know her?
Anyway, I digress.

[...]


>one
>couple wrote in to say that although they were long term listeners to
>TA, they would not be listening again because the language Eddie used
>was "far too strong" for them; they were "shocked and annoyed".

[...]


>and the activity he attributed to Sid wouldn't have
>been "shagging" but f***ing". Do the folks who complained seriously
>expect Eddy to have said "Your husband is carrying out horizontal
>manoeuvres with Jolene?"

<AJW>
Who said they were horizonal?

But yes, I certainly agree with your general point -- the language used
in Borsetshire has always seemed decidedly genteel, downright amusing,
even, in its blandness. I have always put this down to BBC
prudishness, and not without some good cause for who would tolerate a
steady stream of effing and blinding from their radio of an evening or
lunchtime? Well, I would for a start, but that's not the point.

--
AJW in Cambridge CB4

Emma Marl

unread,
Jun 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/16/00
to

"Kirsten Procter" <gh...@aibs.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:slrn8kkrcd...@gin.ucam.org...

Anyone hear the last sketch in the comedy prog before today's broadcast? For
those who didn't it was an excellent spoof, apparently inspired by the
Feedback piece, of Clarrie and Eddie discussing the alternative terms he
could have used... with lots of bleeped out bits. Then the continuity
announcer apologised that it seemed to be an unedited version of tonight's
Archers epi, and some f***ing technician had c***ed up. I was ROFL - great
stuff.

Emma

Marian Bailey

unread,
Jun 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/16/00
to

Emma Marl <emma_m...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:8idsg7$4n4$0...@216.39.162.182...
> >

> Anyone hear the last sketch in the comedy prog before today's broadcast?
For
> those who didn't it was an excellent spoof, apparently inspired by the
> Feedback piece, of Clarrie and Eddie discussing the alternative terms he
> could have used... with lots of bleeped out bits. Then the continuity
> announcer apologised that it seemed to be an unedited version of tonight's
> Archers epi, and some f***ing technician had c***ed up. I was ROFL - great
> stuff.
>

Yes, highly amusing!
Which is more than can be said for the episode itself. Feel thoroughly
depressed now (after a long week) and somewhat cheated of Friday evening
relaxed mode.

marian of surbiton


Tez Burke

unread,
Jun 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/18/00
to
Mike Ruddock <miker...@stanleyville.in2home.co.uk> wrote:

> Do the folks who complained seriously expect Eddy to have said
>"Your husband is carrying out horizontal manoeuvres with Jolene?"

Now I'd like to hear Eddie saying it! Much more the sort of thing that I
could imagine Nelson to have uttered though.

Tez.

--
"Somebody sent the subversive element,
Going to chase it out of town."

Chris McMillan

unread,
Jun 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/18/00
to
In article <1eceabc.b4hei2t525ihN%burke...@lineone.net>, Tez Burke

<URL:mailto:burke...@lineone.net> wrote:
> Mike Ruddock <miker...@stanleyville.in2home.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Do the folks who complained seriously expect Eddy to have said
> >"Your husband is carrying out horizontal manoeuvres with Jolene?"
>
> Now I'd like to hear Eddie saying it! Much more the sort of thing that I
> could imagine Nelson to have uttered though.
>
With a knowing wink in his voice. Welcome Tez!

Sincerely, Chris

--
Mrs. Chris McMillan. Tel. 0118 926 5450. e-mail:
ch...@mikesounds.demon.co.uk http://www.mikesounds.demon.co.uk/


Kirsten Procter

unread,
Jun 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/19/00
to
AJW wrote

> <AJW>
> Who said they were horizonal?

And how would Eddie know?

> But yes, I certainly agree with your general point -- the language used
> in Borsetshire has always seemed decidedly genteel, downright amusing,
> even, in its blandness. I have always put this down to BBC
> prudishness, and not without some good cause for who would tolerate a
> steady stream of effing and blinding from their radio of an evening or
> lunchtime? Well, I would for a start, but that's not the point.

I too am a prude. I really hate sexual scenes in TA, particularly when I'm
listening at my mother's house[1]. I do not like the fact that the BBC
have effectively taken the choice of language which my son listens to out
of my hands. Maybe some parents don;t mind what language is used on the
wireless - others want their children to be brought up in an
expletive-free zone as much as possible. I fall into the latter category -
I'm not always terribly good at it, and I would prefer Eddie's 'shagging'
in context to, for example, mindless blasphemy.[2] Not all under-5s are
going to be in bed for TA, and surely many children are going to be
hearing it in the background, and this does seem to be forgotten a lot.

Kirsten
[1] I got much more relaxed when I moved to Cambridge
[2] which is harder to avoid.

--
Kirsten Procter ghoti
"Cry hippo and unleash the dogs of war" Owen Dunn

anon...@firedrake.org

unread,
Jun 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/19/00
to
In message <lSy*2k...@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk> Kirsten pondered on a
knotty problem:

To be honest, I don't see how on earth that scene could have been managed
without Eddie using a word which was at best dodgy. What I didn't like, as
you say, was all the sink-plunger noises day after day: I didn't see the
need for all the (searches for a suitable word) on-stage osculation....

It's a hard life being a prude in this day and age, and I agree that
blasphemy tripping off the tongue of a four- or five-year-old is thoroughly
distasteful, and that if they hear bad language all the time children are
likely to use it unthinkingly (literally: not thinking about it).

My lot were not allowed to swear unless they knew what a word meant; and
having each expletive explained to them, in long boring detail, put them
off for _ages_ because it meant that their fine flow of fury got severely
interrupted and they forgot what it had been about to begin with.

Then we introduced the idea that swearing is _boring_, and they could do
better than _that_, which led to such oaths as "Oh, you are a scalene
martlet!" or "You lesser common polypody you!" (This also leads to early
and creative use of the dictionary, which is probably no bad thing. "The
Chambers is your _friend_") Likewise a string which started "Cream-faced
loon!" when the eldest encountered Shakespeare, and whilst from what I know
of the Bard that's probably a lot ruder then than it is now, as it were,
most people wouldn't know that.

And there is also Diana Wynne Jones' marvellous invention, designed to get
past children's book editors in the seventies: colourful language. "Pink,
purple and _puce_!" works just as well as conventional cussing for letting
off steam....

HTH, if only by helping to make the subject vaguely amusing rather than
deeply offensive?

--

Weevil


Min Lacey

unread,
Jun 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/19/00
to
In article <20000619202906...@firedrake.org>,
anon...@firedrake.org used the electronic medium to say....

>Then we introduced the idea that swearing is _boring_, and they could do
>better than _that_, which led to such oaths as "Oh, you are a scalene
>martlet!" or "You lesser common polypody you!" (This also leads to early
>and creative use of the dictionary, which is probably no bad thing. "The
>Chambers is your _friend_") Likewise a string which started "Cream-faced
>loon!" when the eldest encountered Shakespeare, and whilst from what I know
>of the Bard that's probably a lot ruder then than it is now, as it were,
>most people wouldn't know that.
>
>And there is also Diana Wynne Jones' marvellous invention, designed to get
>past children's book editors in the seventies: colourful language. "Pink,
>purple and _puce_!" works just as well as conventional cussing for letting
>off steam....
Alex always reckoned the lead singer of the Undertones was an excellent
swearword
(For those rats not aware of the group, the aforementioned singer's name
is Feargal Sharkey...)
--
Min
umra BT Sex Award winner 1999
May your Scottish pony perish while doing a quick foxtrot

Alan Craig

unread,
Jun 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/19/00
to
On Mon, 19 Jun 2000 21:57:46 +0100, Min Lacey
<M...@mygaff0.demon.co.uk> wrote:


>Alex always reckoned the lead singer of the Undertones was an excellent
>swearword

There was also that Merkin woman, who was briefly famous for some
flirtation with a married politician (clearly I can't remember the
details), called 'Fawn Hall'.

Tez Burke

unread,
Jun 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/19/00
to
<anon...@firedrake.org> wrote:

> Then we introduced the idea that swearing is _boring_, and they could do
> better than _that_, which led to such oaths as "Oh, you are a scalene
> martlet!" or "You lesser common polypody you!" (This also leads to early
> and creative use of the dictionary, which is probably no bad thing. "The
> Chambers is your _friend_") Likewise a string which started "Cream-faced
> loon!" when the eldest encountered Shakespeare, and whilst from what I know
> of the Bard that's probably a lot ruder then than it is now, as it were,
> most people wouldn't know that.

"Where got'st thou that goose look?", indeed. I always remember that bit
from act v of the Scottish Play. Up there with "'Aroint thee, witch!'
the rump-fed ronyon cries!" from act i of the same. Shakespeare has his
moments... but for swearing that's both big and clever, look no further
than Rabelais.

K Richard W

unread,
Jun 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/19/00
to
umrat, Tez Burke who posted on Sun, 18 Jun 2000 distracted me
sufficiently with the following opinion of recent events:

>Mike Ruddock <miker...@stanleyville.in2home.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Do the folks who complained seriously expect Eddy to have said
>>"Your husband is carrying out horizontal manoeuvres with Jolene?"
>
>Now I'd like to hear Eddie saying it! Much more the sort of thing that I
>could imagine Nelson to have uttered though.
>

I think quite reasonably that Eddie could have referred to Sid hiding
sausages which should not have caused any upset. Cormoranting might not
have been understood by the casual listener.
--
Kosmo Richard W
LSS super-numerary


Emma Marl

unread,
Jun 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/20/00
to

"Min Lacey" <M...@mygaff0.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:0jVZ$jAKlo...@mail0.demon.co.uk...
<snip swearing alternatives>

> Alex always reckoned the lead singer of the Undertones was an excellent
> swearword
> (For those rats not aware of the group, the aforementioned singer's name
> is Feargal Sharkey...)

In a recent Merkan mini-series called The 10th Kingdom (a rather funny and
grown-up take on fairy tales) there was a group of three trolls, whose
swearwords were 'Suck an Elf' - another excellent alternative.

Emma

Stephen

unread,
Jun 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/20/00
to
Alan Craig <postm...@shadforth.u-net.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 19 Jun 2000 21:57:46 +0100, Min Lacey
><M...@mygaff0.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>

>>Alex always reckoned the lead singer of the Undertones was an excellent
>>swearword
>

>There was also that Merkin woman, who was briefly famous for some
>flirtation with a married politician (clearly I can't remember the
>details), called 'Fawn Hall'.

You do Ms Hall an injustice. Fawn Hall assisted Oliver North by
shredding all the evidence of the Iran-Contra shenanigans (November
1986).

You may have confused her with Donna Rice with whom Gary Hart was
carrying on on a boat called Monkey Business (May 1988).

--
Stephen

One of those days in England with a sword in every pond
and birds in every garden in the land

Jennifer

unread,
Jun 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/20/00
to
On Mon, 19 Jun 2000 23:06:14 +0100, Alan Craig
<postm...@shadforth.u-net.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 19 Jun 2000 21:57:46 +0100, Min Lacey
><M...@mygaff0.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>>Alex always reckoned the lead singer of the Undertones was an excellent
>>swearword
>
>There was also that Merkin woman, who was briefly famous for some
>flirtation with a married politician (clearly I can't remember the
>details), called 'Fawn Hall'.

I always feel sorry for that Merkin sex researcher, Shere Hite.

Jen

Tez Burke

unread,
Jun 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/20/00
to
Jennifer <jen...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I always feel sorry for that Merkin sex researcher, Shere Hite.

The one I always felt sorry for was the former South Korean Foreign
Minister, a gentleman by the name of Lee Bum-Suk.

Heather Coleman

unread,
Jun 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/20/00
to
>being uttered. In a RL, the scene at the Bull depicted in that Friday
>esipode would have been accompanied by rather riper language as Eddy
>got worked up, and the activity he attributed to Sid wouldn't have
>been "shagging" but f***ing". Do the folks who complained seriously

>expect Eddy to have said "Your husband is carrying out horizontal
>manoeuvres with Jolene?"

I'm sure I use shagging as a euphamism for said activity.
Heather
--

Alan Craig

unread,
Jun 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/20/00
to
Stephen wrote:
>
> Alan Craig <postm...@shadforth.u-net.com> wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 19 Jun 2000 21:57:46 +0100, Min Lacey
> ><M...@mygaff0.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Alex always reckoned the lead singer of the Undertones was an excellent
> >>swearword
> >
> >There was also that Merkin woman, who was briefly famous for some
> >flirtation with a married politician (clearly I can't remember the
> >details), called 'Fawn Hall'.
>
> You do Ms Hall an injustice. Fawn Hall assisted Oliver North by
> shredding all the evidence of the Iran-Contra shenanigans (November
> 1986).
>
> You may have confused her with Donna Rice with whom Gary Hart was
> carrying on on a boat called Monkey Business (May 1988).
>


Yes, I have. Although "Donna Rice!" just doesn't have the same
ring to it as "Fawn Hall!".

anon...@firedrake.org

unread,
Jun 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/20/00
to
In message <8img4f$qj8$0...@216.39.162.182> Emma Marl wrote:

>"Min Lacey" <M...@mygaff0.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:0jVZ$jAKlo...@mail0.demon.co.uk...
><snip swearing alternatives>

>> Alex always reckoned the lead singer of the Undertones was an excellent
>> swearword

>> (For those rats not aware of the group, the aforementioned singer's name
>> is Feargal Sharkey...)
>
>In a recent Merkan mini-series called The 10th Kingdom (a rather funny and
>grown-up take on fairy tales) there was a group of three trolls, whose
>swearwords were 'Suck an Elf' - another excellent alternative.

Heh! It took me a long time to understand a friend of mine who described
his handicraft-besotted wife as filling his home with "fircone elves".....

--

Weevil


Charles F Hankel

unread,
Jun 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/20/00
to
As we chased the sow from the strawberry patch, I heard
burke...@lineone.net (Tez Burke) say:

> Jennifer <jen...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I always feel sorry for that Merkin sex researcher, Shere Hite.
>
> The one I always felt sorry for was the former South Korean Foreign
> Minister, a gentleman by the name of Lee Bum-Suk.

I wonder if it's still illegal to make jokes about bananas in Zimbabwe
given that Canaan himself is now well and truly in the doghouse.

--

Charles F Hankel
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hapless FAQer on the Wirral peninsula
Member: Strombone 2000

Sue Mitchell

unread,
Jun 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/20/00
to
In article <ok0vks067ap96m2uf...@4ax.com>, Charles F
Hankel <cha...@hankel.freedombird.net> writes

>As we chased the sow from the strawberry patch, I heard
>burke...@lineone.net (Tez Burke) say:
>
>> Jennifer <jen...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I always feel sorry for that Merkin sex researcher, Shere Hite.
>>
>> The one I always felt sorry for was the former South Korean Foreign
>> Minister, a gentleman by the name of Lee Bum-Suk.
>
>I wonder if it's still illegal to make jokes about bananas in Zimbabwe
>given that Canaan himself is now well and truly in the doghouse.
>
My favourite used to be the religious personage Cardinal Sin (sp?) :))

Best wishes,
Sue
--

__ __
{{{{\ /}}}} Sue Mitchell
{{::\ V /::}} s...@imps.demon.co.uk
>--->8<---<
{:.;/ 0 \;.:} "My soul is painted like the wings of butterflies"
~~ ~~ - B.H.M.

Robin Somes

unread,
Jun 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/20/00
to
In article <ok0vks067ap96m2uf...@4ax.com>, Charles F
Hankel <cha...@hankel.freedombird.net> writes
>> > I always feel sorry for that Merkin sex researcher, Shere Hite.
>>
>> The one I always felt sorry for was the former South Korean Foreign
>> Minister, a gentleman by the name of Lee Bum-Suk.
>
>I wonder if it's still illegal to make jokes about bananas in Zimbabwe
>given that Canaan himself is now well and truly in the doghouse.


Excerpt from my Punch book of humorous press cuttings; originally from
the Times of Zambia:

'A Zimbabwean journalist colleague showed us a note circulated from his
editor which stipulates the on no account must reporters write that
talks held between President Canaan Banana and other dignitaries were
"fruitful"'.

:-)
robin
--
www.badminston.demon.co.uk www.robinsomes.co.uk/guitar.html
www.blackwell-science.com/southwood

Trust me, I'm a webmaster......

George Middleton

unread,
Jun 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/21/00
to
Robin Somes wrote>

>Excerpt from my Punch book of humorous press cuttings; originally from
>the Times of Zambia:
>
>'A Zimbabwean journalist colleague showed us a note circulated from his
>editor which stipulates the on no account must reporters write that
>talks held between President Canaan Banana and other dignitaries were
>"fruitful"'.

One of the other dignitaries was Dr Mukassa Mango.

But why are Bananas and Mangos funny but Oranges, as in Williamov, not?
--
George

LizJ

unread,
Jun 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/21/00
to
Kirsten Procter wrote:

> in context to, for example, mindless blasphemy.[2] Not all under-5s are
> going to be in bed for TA, and surely many children are going to be
> hearing it in the background, and this does seem to be forgotten a lot.

What 4 year old goes to bed in the afternoon? When my son was little I used to
listen to both transmissions as I often missed bits from the day before as said
son was making too much noise.

Now that my son is a lot older I must admit I find the language a bit twee and
unrealistic, but I appreciate Kristen's point of view and am happy to have an
expletive free programme.

Liz

LizJ

unread,
Jun 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/21/00
to
Emma Marl wrote:

> In a recent Merkan mini-series called The 10th Kingdom (a rather funny and
> grown-up take on fairy tales) there was a group of three trolls, whose
> swearwords were 'Suck an Elf' - another excellent alternative.
>

As long as you don't get the letters muddled .;-) A friend of mine always says
her house is in a mucking fuddle which is great when kids are around.

Kids also learn unsuitable words by mistake. Many years ago I was feeding my
son when my nephew (who was only 3 and didn't speak too clearly) told his mum
that the baby was bitting me. His mum in inocence said 'no dear he is
sucking'. Oooopppppssss!! Nephew always got muddled with his 's's and 'f''s.
<grin>

Liz

Jane Vernon

unread,
Jun 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/21/00
to
From my vantage point in the treetop walk I heard George Middleton say:

Nor really is Lemmon as in Jack. Some fruit as names just are funny. I
wouldn't find Peach as a surname particularly funny, for instance, but I
would be giggling over Apricot.

Jane
The potter in the purple socks

http://www.otbo.demon.co.uk

Chris McMillan

unread,
Jun 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/21/00
to
In article <qarpyGAC...@badminston.demon.co.uk>, Robin Somes

<URL:mailto:ro...@badminston.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <ok0vks067ap96m2uf...@4ax.com>, Charles F
> Hankel <cha...@hankel.freedombird.net> writes
> >> > I always feel sorry for that Merkin sex researcher, Shere Hite.

> 'A Zimbabwean journalist colleague showed us a note circulated from his


> editor which stipulates the on no account must reporters write that
> talks held between President Canaan Banana and other dignitaries were
> "fruitful"'.
>

Tears rolling silently down face with laughter.

K Richard W

unread,
Jun 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/21/00
to
umrat, George Middleton who posted on Wed, 21 Jun 2000 distracted me
sufficiently with the following opinion of recent events:

>Robin Somes wrote>


>>Excerpt from my Punch book of humorous press cuttings; originally from
>>the Times of Zambia:
>>

>>'A Zimbabwean journalist colleague showed us a note circulated from his
>>editor which stipulates the on no account must reporters write that
>>talks held between President Canaan Banana and other dignitaries were
>>"fruitful"'.
>

>One of the other dignitaries was Dr Mukassa Mango.
>
>But why are Bananas and Mangos funny but Oranges, as in Williamov, not?

Because "Oranges are not the only fruit" OK 20p kerching

K Richard W

unread,
Jun 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/21/00
to
umrat, LizJ who posted on Wed, 21 Jun 2000 distracted me
sufficiently with the following opinion of recent events:

>Kirsten Procter wrote:


>
>> in context to, for example, mindless blasphemy.[2] Not all under-5s are
>> going to be in bed for TA, and surely many children are going to be
>> hearing it in the background, and this does seem to be forgotten a lot.
>
>What 4 year old goes to bed in the afternoon? When my son was little I used to
>listen to both transmissions as I often missed bits from the day before as said
>son was making too much noise.

I always used to go to sleep after TA and Listen with Mother.

>
>Now that my son is a lot older I must admit I find the language a bit twee and
>unrealistic, but I appreciate Kristen's point of view and am happy to have an
>expletive free programme.
>

Sadly I suspect that Radio4 does not understand the concept of children.

Helen Brace

unread,
Jun 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/21/00
to

LizJ <liz.j...@dcu.ie> wrote in message news:3950B96A...@dcu.ie...
At 18 months Number One child used to call a drum stick, a bum dick. I was
so glad when she outgrew that one!

Helen B

anon...@firedrake.org

unread,
Jun 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/22/00
to
In message <aaAfqcA5...@local.machine> Kosmo Richard W wrote:

>Sadly I suspect that Radio4 does not understand the concept of children.

I think we've known that since they did away with Listen With Mother and
Children's Hour and gave the kiddies a half-hour a week of "drama" on a
weekend late afternoon to replace those old fuddy-duddy daily programmes,
haven't we. *sigh* *mutter*

--

Weevil


LizJ

unread,
Jun 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/22/00
to
Helen Brace wrote:

> snip


> At 18 months Number One child used to call a drum stick, a bum dick. I was
> so glad when she outgrew that one!

Snigger, snigger. Can't laugh out loud as reading on the QT at work. My son
also had a problem with a friends cat called tricky - seemed to come out as
shitty. ;-) My friend used to get him to call the cat in for tea. ;-)

Liz, must remember to remind dear son of this - now 17 and ripe for embarassing
stories. ;-)

sandy brown

unread,
Jun 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/22/00
to
On Wed, 21 Jun 2000 22:17:45 +0100, K Richard W
<richard....@whitbread.freeuk.com> wrote:

.
>
>I always used to go to sleep after TA

I still do if the play is boring or a repeat
in fact yesturday I nodded off during TA and missed the trip bit.
>
This is of course one of the great joys of working from home
nobody knocks on the window to wake you up as your head crashes
towards the keyboard.

Shop keys go back today after I retrive the Beltinge Poppy and set it
free .
Sandy

Brenda Selwyn

unread,
Jun 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/22/00
to
>LizJ <liz.j...@dcu.ie> wrote:

>Kirsten Procter wrote:
>
>> in context to, for example, mindless blasphemy.[2] Not all under-5s are
>> going to be in bed for TA, and surely many children are going to be
>> hearing it in the background, and this does seem to be forgotten a lot.
>
>What 4 year old goes to bed in the afternoon? When my son was little I used to
>listen to both transmissions as I often missed bits from the day before as said
>son was making too much noise.

I solved this early on in Laurence's life by taping the evening
episode and listening to it after he'd gone to bed. I still do it to
this day as at 7.02pm I am usually trying to persuade him to get out
of the bath. So I'm less concious of the "bad language" problem than
perhaps I might be. Actually I don't think 4 year-olds are going to
get much out of it anyway if they just hear it in the background.
IMHO 8 year-olds, who may actually sit and listen properly with their
parents, are more of a problem.

It is a problem I agree. We don't want too much swearing in case
children are listening (not, I'm afraid, IMHO because Disgusted of
Tunbridge Wells might be upset), but to have none at all makes the
dialogue, again IMHO, unrealistic.

Brenda

--
***************************************************************
Brenda M Selwyn
Nr Bath, North East Somerset
bre...@matson.demon.co.uk
http://www.matson.demon.co.uk/brenda.htm

Chris McMillan

unread,
Jun 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/22/00
to
In article <20000622121730....@firedrake.org>,
Least we listened to Cats Whisker, and Hazel used to write into the
programme etc. (Somewhere I've still got her Cats Whisker folder) - and I
thought the programme for under 5s was brill.

But my little girl is no longer a schoolgirl from today (sob).

mholcroft

unread,
Jun 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/22/00
to
In article <lq94ls0d2ct9kps8n...@4ax.com>, Brenda Selwyn
<bre...@matson.demon.co.uk> writes

>It is a problem I agree. We don't want too much swearing in case
>children are listening (not, I'm afraid, IMHO because Disgusted of
>Tunbridge Wells might be upset)

<splutter...>

Upset? Moi?

>, but to have none at all makes the
>dialogue, again IMHO, unrealistic.

<sigh>

Too f*****g true!

michelle

(disgusted with Tunbridge Wells, and not terribly impressed with
Ambridge atm...)
--
mholcroft

badriya

unread,
Jun 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/22/00
to
On 22 Jun 2000 12:17:30 +0100, anon...@firedrake.org wrote:

>In message <aaAfqcA5...@local.machine> Kosmo Richard W wrote:
>
>>Sadly I suspect that Radio4 does not understand the concept of children.
>
>I think we've known that since they did away with Listen With Mother and
>Children's Hour and gave the kiddies a half-hour a week of "drama" on a
>weekend late afternoon to replace those old fuddy-duddy daily programmes,
>haven't we. *sigh* *mutter*


They used to have Listen with Mother AND drama
Dan Dare - Pilot of the Future!
Not to mention the Ovaltinis.


Vicky

--


Glynn & Kathy Greenwood

unread,
Jun 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/23/00
to
In article <3952a414...@news.demon.co.uk>,

badriya <bad...@void.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> Dan Dare - Pilot of the Future!
> Not to mention the Ovaltinis.

IIRC these were on Radio Luxembourg. The Dan Dare program was 'Silver
Wings Club'.

Talk about co-incidence. The play is on the radio and one of the
characters has just said "We listened to Radio Luxembourg" followed by
the Ovaltinies song.

--
Glynn Greenwood
In Stony Stratford, gateway to the mystical city of Milton Keynes


Robin Fairbairns

unread,
Jun 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/23/00
to
George Middleton <gzo...@cableinet.co.uk> wrote:
>Robin Somes wrote>
>>Excerpt from my Punch book of humorous press cuttings; originally from
>>the Times of Zambia:
>>
>>'A Zimbabwean journalist colleague showed us a note circulated from his
>>editor which stipulates the on no account must reporters write that
>>talks held between President Canaan Banana and other dignitaries were
>>"fruitful"'.
>
>One of the other dignitaries was Dr Mukassa Mango.
>
>But why are Bananas and Mangos funny but Oranges, as in Williamov, not?

i tend to find oranges, as an item of amusement, merely tedious. it's
inevitable, really, with those idiot orange men all over the place,
trying their damnedest to be the silliest thing in these islands.
--
Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge

Jennifer

unread,
Jun 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/24/00
to
On Sat, 24 Jun 2000 11:56:59 +0100, j...@kinchyle.karoo.co.uk wrote:

>On Thu, 22 Jun 2000 23:41:47 GMT, bad...@void.demon.co.uk (badriya) wrote:
>
>
>>
>>They used to have Listen with Mother AND drama

>>Dan Dare - Pilot of the Future!
>>Not to mention the Ovaltinis.
>>

>No...the later two were on Radio Luxembourg.
>
>Dan Dare was on at quatre past six - I never missed an episode, just giving
>you time to re-tune to BBC for Dick Barton at quarter to seven - no push
>button sets in our house.
>
Great big smilie! You've just reminded me of a minute of my
childhood when I switched on Dan Dare at full volume and nearly killed
Grandad with the noise!

>Never heard the Ovaltinies though.

Too young? Just like me :-)

Jen


anon...@firedrake.org

unread,
Jun 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/24/00
to

Too young? Junior Weevil (11) arrives in the kitchen at 7:01 each evening
singing "We are the Archers Fairy" and flapping her elbows, to remind me to
turn on the tape so she can listen to TA later; I suspect it's take on the
Ovaltinies.

BTW, she has just decided that she would prefer to be known hereinafter as
"Spiky Weevil". Something to do with hedgehogs. I think.

--

Weevil


K Richard W

unread,
Jun 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/25/00
to
umrat, Chris McMillan who posted on Thu, 22 Jun 2000 distracted me
sufficiently with the following opinion of recent events:

>But my little girl is no longer a schoolgirl from today (sob).

And no3 left school on Friday - although we went back on Saturday night
for the farewell ball. Recovery has now commenced!

K Richard W

unread,
Jun 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/25/00
to
umrat, badriya who posted on Thu, 22 Jun 2000 distracted me
sufficiently with the following opinion of recent events:

>They used to have Listen with Mother AND drama

Was there not a rather good serial (before my time sad to say) about a
special agent - Dick Barton I think. The writing was good I understand
- I wonder what ever replaced it?

Charles F Hankel

unread,
Jun 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/26/00
to
As we chased the sow from the strawberry patch, I heard mholcroft
<mhol...@peoplesrepublic.demon.co.uk> say:

> In article <lq94ls0d2ct9kps8n...@4ax.com>, Brenda Selwyn
> <bre...@matson.demon.co.uk> writes
>
> >It is a problem I agree. We don't want too much swearing in case
> >children are listening (not, I'm afraid, IMHO because Disgusted of
> >Tunbridge Wells might be upset)
>
> <splutter...>
>
> Upset? Moi?

No, no, not you. She said "Disgusted" not "Disgusting".

<moves rapidly into the bunker's refuge>

Jenni Hearn

unread,
Jun 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/26/00
to
anon...@firedrake.org wrote:
>In message <3954a164...@news.cableinet.co.uk> Jen wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 24 Jun 2000 11:56:59 +0100, j...@kinchyle.karoo.co.uk wrote:
>
>>>Never heard the Ovaltinies though.
>>
>>Too young? Just like me :-)
>
>Too young? Junior Weevil (11) arrives in the kitchen at 7:01 each evening
>singing "We are the Archers Fairy" and flapping her elbows, to remind me to
>turn on the tape so she can listen to TA later; I suspect it's take on the
>Ovaltinies.

Mmmmmm, it's one of those meme things - I too am far too young to know
anything about the programme, except the tune of the theme song: I suspect
this first entered my consciousness when, aged six, my part in the school
Christmas non-nativity production involved singing a terrible song
entitled "We are the Christmas Pudding"....

Jenni

--
Jennifer Hearn http://www-jcsu.jesus.cam.ac.uk/~jmh60
"These are the words of him who has the sharp, double-edged sword:
I know where you live." -- Rev 2:12,13

Andrea Collins

unread,
Jun 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/26/00
to
In article <9gtclskqnki9g2ism...@4ax.com>, Charles F
Hankel <cha...@hankel.freedombird.net> writes

>As we chased the sow from the strawberry patch, I heard mholcroft
><mhol...@peoplesrepublic.demon.co.uk> say:
>
>> In article <lq94ls0d2ct9kps8n...@4ax.com>, Brenda Selwyn
>> <bre...@matson.demon.co.uk> writes
>>
>> >It is a problem I agree. We don't want too much swearing in case
>> >children are listening (not, I'm afraid, IMHO because Disgusted of
>> >Tunbridge Wells might be upset)
>>
>> <splutter...>
>>
>> Upset? Moi?
>
>No, no, not you. She said "Disgusted" not "Disgusting".
>
><moves rapidly into the bunker's refuge>
>

Interesting point about that.

We press-ganged a friend and her 10 year old son for our May trip up the Ashby
canal, and, of course, radio was on all the time that the boat was stationary.

10 year old (who hasn't exactly led a sheltered existence) remarked thoughtfully
during one of the 6.30 programmes "You know, they wouldn't allow language like
this on the telly at this time of day....."


--
Andrea Collins

Karen

unread,
Jun 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/26/00
to
In article <8j0a6g$q1f$1...@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>, Robin Fairbairns
<r...@betsy.cl.cam.ac.uk> writes
^^^^^
I like that:)


>George Middleton <gzo...@cableinet.co.uk> wrote:

[..]


>>But why are Bananas and Mangos funny but Oranges, as in Williamov, not?
>
>i tend to find oranges, as an item of amusement, merely tedious.

How do you cherries make you feel?

Or plums?

ttfn,


--
Karen ka...@lspace.org


Stephen GC Tilley

unread,
Jun 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/27/00
to
In article <zIIPuODh...@goodgulf.demon.co.uk>,
It depends on when I last watched a version of "Lolita".

--
Stephen Tilley - Til...@UKOnline.co.UK
Orthinologist, that is - a word-botcher.


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

Kirsten Procter

unread,
Jun 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/27/00
to
In article <av39ls0gpfql371ab...@4ax.com>,

<j...@kinchyle.karoo.co.uk> wrote:
>On Thu, 22 Jun 2000 23:41:47 GMT, bad...@void.demon.co.uk (badriya) wrote:
>
>
>>
>>They used to have Listen with Mother AND drama
>>Dan Dare - Pilot of the Future!

>No...the later two were on Radio Luxembourg.


>
>Dan Dare was on at quatre past six - I never missed an episode, just giving
>you time to re-tune to BBC for Dick Barton at quarter to seven - no push
>button sets in our house.
>

Was Dick Barton replaced by TA? ISTR someone
(umrat/out-law?) complaining that they'd heard of a new program which
they thought was going to be a Robin Hood show, but turned out to be TA
and they wanted Dick Barton (or something similar) back.

Have I posted this before, and am I rambling?

Kirsten
--
Kirsten Procter ghoti
"I may be omniscient, but there are some things I just don;t know" AJW

Min Lacey

unread,
Jun 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/27/00
to
In article <gJrM3NA$17V5...@andrea1.demon.co.uk>, Andrea Collins
<col...@andrea1.demon.co.uk> used the electronic medium to say....

>Interesting point about that.
>
>We press-ganged a friend and her 10 year old son for our May trip up the Ashby
>canal, and, of course, radio was on all the time that the boat was stationary.
>
>10 year old (who hasn't exactly led a sheltered existence) remarked thoughtfully
>during one of the 6.30 programmes "You know, they wouldn't allow language like
>this on the telly at this time of day....."
I introduced a couple of my ATC cadets to those 6.30 programmes - they
do take to R4 if it's presented the right way :-)
--
Min
umra BT Sex Award winner 1999
May your Scottish pony perish while doing a quick foxtrot

Chris McMillan

unread,
Jun 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/27/00
to
In article <chsukjAN...@local.machine>, K Richard W
<URL:mailto:richard....@whitbread.freeuk.com> wrote:
> umrat, Chris McMillan who posted on Thu, 22 Jun 2000 distracted me
> sufficiently with the following opinion of recent events:
>
> >But my little girl is no longer a schoolgirl from today (sob).
>
> And no3 left school on Friday - although we went back on Saturday night
> for the farewell ball. Recovery has now commenced!

Hope she dun well. I have one more concert to attend next week.

Andrea Collins

unread,
Jun 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/27/00
to
In article <plA+uGAI...@mail0.demon.co.uk>, Min Lacey
<M...@mygaff0.demon.co.uk> writes

>In article <gJrM3NA$17V5...@andrea1.demon.co.uk>, Andrea Collins
><col...@andrea1.demon.co.uk> used the electronic medium to say....
>>Interesting point about that.
>>
>>We press-ganged a friend and her 10 year old son for our May trip up the Ashby
>>canal, and, of course, radio was on all the time that the boat was stationary.
>>
>>10 year old (who hasn't exactly led a sheltered existence) remarked
>thoughtfully
>>during one of the 6.30 programmes "You know, they wouldn't allow language like
>>this on the telly at this time of day....."
>I introduced a couple of my ATC cadets to those 6.30 programmes - they
>do take to R4 if it's presented the right way :-)

How do thEe got on with "Man of Soup"?

I still get a sort of warm glow over lines such as "Love means never having to
sell your lorry" and "Lotte, shouldn't there be another "R" in "Burger KING"?

Interestingly (I think, anyway) my son was at the young teenage -wandering-in-
and-outof-house stage.

He was about to do the wandering out bit, with his mate John, when a play that
he'd heard a bit of was repeated.
" Hold on" he said "This is good - I want to listen to this...." and made his
friend sit and listen to it.

It was an adaptation of Isaac Asimov's "Caves of Steel"

I asked him if he'd like the book, and, yes, he did.

He then read virtully every book that Asimov wrote (OK, not the greatest of
writers but certainly with some interesting insights).

He still has those dog-eared books today and this is about 13 years later (he's
25)

Well done Radio 4!!!

Please do some more of that.

--
Andrea Collins

Ian Wilson

unread,
Jun 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/28/00
to
In article <h9r*oc...@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>, Kirsten Procter
<kpro...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes

>
> Was Dick Barton replaced by TA? ISTR someone
>(umrat/out-law?) complaining that they'd heard of a new program which
>they thought was going to be a Robin Hood show, but turned out to be TA
>and they wanted Dick Barton (or something similar) back.
>
> Have I posted this before, and am I rambling?
>
>Kirsten

In my youth (1948-?) I remember ensuring that at 18:45 I never missed an
episode of Dick Barton, Special Agent, with his colleagues Snowey White
and Jock Andersen who saved the country for many years before the
invention of the new super-agent 007.

I well remember the genuine grief that we all felt when our program was
replaced by some rubbish about learning how to farm more efficiently
which was of no interest to us Birmingham lads who knew that vegetables
came from the greengrocers and meat came from the butchers.

Apologies to the UMRATs with long memories who may recall a similar
posting from me in December 1995.
--
Ian Wilson
Leamington Spa, Warwickshire, UK

anon...@firedrake.org

unread,
Jun 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/28/00
to
In message <uQAfBHAc...@andrea1.demon.co.uk> Andrea Collins wrote:

>Interestingly (I think, anyway) my son was at the young teenage -wandering-in-
>and-outof-house stage.
>
>He was about to do the wandering out bit, with his mate John, when a play that
>he'd heard a bit of was repeated.
>" Hold on" he said "This is good - I want to listen to this...." and made his
>friend sit and listen to it.
>
>It was an adaptation of Isaac Asimov's "Caves of Steel"

Dramatised by Bert Coules and directed by Matthew Walters, broadcast on
Radio 4, 26th June 1989... I have just gone into TNY's room and looked at
the tape we made of it, because he felt like that too and wanted to listen
to it again.

>I asked him if he'd like the book, and, yes, he did.

Ditto. Ditto.

>He then read virtully every book that Asimov wrote (OK, not the greatest of
>writers but certainly with some interesting insights).

Ditto. Then the Alastair MacLean phase began.

>He still has those dog-eared books today and this is about 13 years later (he's
>25)

I've retrieved them and put them back with the other SF in the bookshelf
where that lives.

TNY is going to be 19 on Sunday. He still reads. Praise the lord.

>Well done Radio 4!!!
>Please do some more of that.

Yes, indeedy.

--

Weevil


K Richard W

unread,
Jun 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/28/00
to
umrat, Chris McMillan who posted on Tue, 27 Jun 2000 distracted me
sufficiently with the following opinion of recent events:

>In article <chsukjAN...@local.machine>, K Richard W
><URL:mailto:richard....@whitbread.freeuk.com> wrote:
>> umrat, Chris McMillan who posted on Thu, 22 Jun 2000 distracted me
>> sufficiently with the following opinion of recent events:
>>
>> >But my little girl is no longer a schoolgirl from today (sob).
>>
>> And no3 left school on Friday - although we went back on Saturday night
>> for the farewell ball. Recovery has now commenced!
>
>Hope she dun well. I have one more concert to attend next week.
>

We are hoping for a mix of Bs,Cs and hopefully nothing worse than a D.

K Richard W

unread,
Jun 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/28/00
to
umrat, Andrea Collins who posted on Tue, 27 Jun 2000 distracted me
sufficiently with the following opinion of recent events:

<snipped>

>
>He still has those dog-eared books today and this is about 13 years later (he's
>25)
>

>Well done Radio 4!!!
>
>Please do some more of that.
>

I believe they still try to. Sadly it seems impossible to get teenagers
to listen (well I can't get mine to listen).

Andrea Collins

unread,
Jun 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/29/00
to
In article <20000628201809....@firedrake.org>,
anon...@firedrake.org writes

>In message <uQAfBHAc...@andrea1.demon.co.uk> Andrea Collins wrote:
>
>>Interestingly (I think, anyway) my son was at the young teenage -wandering-in-
>>and-outof-house stage.
>>
>>He was about to do the wandering out bit, with his mate John, when a play that
>>he'd heard a bit of was repeated.
>>" Hold on" he said "This is good - I want to listen to this...." and made his
>>friend sit and listen to it.
>>
>>It was an adaptation of Isaac Asimov's "Caves of Steel"
>
>Dramatised by Bert Coules and directed by Matthew Walters, broadcast on
>Radio 4, 26th June 1989... I have just gone into TNY's room and looked at
>the tape we made of it, because he felt like that too and wanted to listen
>to it again.
>
>>I asked him if he'd like the book, and, yes, he did.
>
>Ditto. Ditto.
>
>>He then read virtully every book that Asimov wrote (OK, not the greatest of
>>writers but certainly with some interesting insights).
>
>Ditto. Then the Alastair MacLean phase began.
>
>>He still has those dog-eared books today and this is about 13 years later (he's
>>25)
>
>I've retrieved them and put them back with the other SF in the bookshelf
>where that lives.
>
>TNY is going to be 19 on Sunday. He still reads. Praise the lord.
>
>>Well done Radio 4!!!
>>Please do some more of that.
>
>Yes, indeedy.
>
>--
>
>Weevil
>
>
>

Blimey, Weevil!

I thought it was earlier than that because said sprog was born in 1975... no,
that could be about right.

Scary bit was when he came running down stairs with said book, going "Mum! This
book's NOT ABOUT ROBOTS AT ALL- IT'S ABOUT THE BERLIN WALL"

And I went "???....???? shirley not?.... (thinks. not, actually, date of book
could be right, child's a genius...or something)

He was right, and had got the point that US science fiction is always about
something else.

I wish I'd been that clever at his age.

Seriously though W, aren't you a bit concerned about R4 "drama"?

I mean, we used to have 3 plays a week - a clever (and possibly depressing one
on Mondays, that I used to discuss down the pub... as you're an omniscient
weevil, do you remember a play called "The Seduction and Death of Joe....")
about the IRSP in Belfast some years ago? IF you have atpe of that, I would pay
good guineas for it - it was brilliant.

It WAS BRILLIANT - I was in tears and like something that had been put through a
mangle at the end. The only comparable thing I have seen on TV was somthing
called "The Rat in the Skull".... and that may have been radio first.

ANYWAY - can't remember Wednesdays, but Saturday used to be something a bit
cosier, like a nice murder. But still good. I have listened to a few R3 plays
and may be fleeing there more.

(Why have the only decent drama on R4 during the day or on Friday nights? We
CAN'T be the only R4 listeners that go out on Fridays?

Shirley?
--

Andrea Collins

Penny

unread,
Jun 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/29/00
to
j...@kinchyle.karoo.co.uk wrote in message ...

>On Thu, 22 Jun 2000 23:41:47 GMT, bad...@void.demon.co.uk (badriya)
wrote:
>
>>They used to have Listen with Mother AND drama
>>Dan Dare - Pilot of the Future!
>>Not to mention the Ovaltinis.
>>
>No...the later two were on Radio Luxembourg.
>
>Dan Dare was on at quatre past six - I never missed an episode, just
giving
>you time to re-tune to BBC for Dick Barton at quarter to seven - no push
>button sets in our house.

I've never understood why station presets on radios are so rare. My first
radio was a huge valve driven thing in an art deco wooden cabinet, I got it
for a few pence at a village jumble sale in about 1960 and _it_ had station
presets as well as turn-the-knob tuning.

Penny

I get enough exercise just pushing my luck
umra Nicknames & Abbreviations http://www.bigwig.net/umra/nicks.html


Andrea Collins

unread,
Jun 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/30/00
to
In article <hKUQkxAT...@local.machine>, K Richard W <richard.whitbr
e...@whitbread.freeuk.com> writes

>umrat, Andrea Collins who posted on Tue, 27 Jun 2000 distracted me
> sufficiently with the following opinion of recent events:
>
><snipped>
>
>>
>>He still has those dog-eared books today and this is about 13 years later (he's
>>25)
>>
>>Well done Radio 4!!!
>>
>>Please do some more of that.
>>
>I believe they still try to. Sadly it seems impossible to get teenagers
>to listen (well I can't get mine to listen).

Suspect trick may be to be very casual and not even to suggest it may be
something they would like!

(They have to discover things themselves, or something....)

Indentally, Pub Friend remarked sadly that he hadn't realised just how much he
would miss children's Radio 4.

(You remember, sort of cooking-dinner-time on Sundays.)

I loved it too AND I STILL MISS IT!

....
-
Andrea Collins

Rosalind C Mitchell

unread,
Jun 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/30/00
to
As I sat cleaning ferret hairs from my lump hammer, I noticed Andrea
Collins opine on the topic of Feedback June 16:

>(You remember, sort of cooking-dinner-time on Sundays.)
>
>I loved it too AND I STILL MISS IT!

Childhood Sunday dinner times always conjure up for me lumpy gravy,
brutally boiled vegetables and the voice of Jean Metcalfe.
Miraculously, the voices of Nat King Cole, Julie London and others have
survived this - I love them now but it has been a close-run thing in the
past. Similarly, I can even warm to Rodgers & Hart's "With a song in my
heart", especially if sung by Ella Fitzgerald or Peter Skellern.

Childhood Sunday teatimes have not been so resilient. They conjure up
tinned salmon, limp lettuce, neatly-sliced hardboiled egg, tinned
peaches and evaporated milk, and worthy Sunday Serials on TV. None of
these things have left me with any affection, and I retain a life-long
disaffection for Mr Dickens.

Rosie

--
Rosalind Mitchell - Worrier Princess

Currently reading: PARETSKY, SARA "Bitter Medicine"


Sue Mitchell

unread,
Jun 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/30/00
to
In article <CsIUOBA9...@andrea1.demon.co.uk>, Andrea Collins
<col...@andrea1.demon.co.uk> writes

>
>Indentally, Pub Friend remarked sadly that he hadn't realised just how much he
>would miss children's Radio 4.
>
>(You remember, sort of cooking-dinner-time on Sundays.)
You too?

>
>I loved it too AND I STILL MISS IT!
Me too :(
>
Best wishes,
Sue
--

__ __
{{{{\ /}}}} Sue Mitchell
{{::\ V /::}} s...@imps.demon.co.uk
>--->8<---<
{:.;/ 0 \;.:} "My soul is painted like the wings of butterflies"
~~ ~~ - B.H.M.

Sue Mitchell

unread,
Jun 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/30/00
to
In article <qXh$qVAMSG...@aida.demon.co.uk>, Rosalind C Mitchell
<r...@aida.demon.co.uk> writes

>
>Childhood Sunday teatimes have not been so resilient. They conjure up
>tinned salmon, limp lettuce, neatly-sliced hardboiled egg, tinned
>peaches and evaporated milk,

Good grief, was this a nation-wide thing then?!! :(

Oh, and you forgot the Heinz salad dressing...

LizJ

unread,
Jun 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/30/00
to
Sue Mitchell wrote:

> In article <qXh$qVAMSG...@aida.demon.co.uk>, Rosalind C Mitchell
> <r...@aida.demon.co.uk> writes
> >
> >Childhood Sunday teatimes have not been so resilient. They conjure up
> >tinned salmon, limp lettuce, neatly-sliced hardboiled egg, tinned
> >peaches and evaporated milk,
>
> Good grief, was this a nation-wide thing then?!! :(
>
> Oh, and you forgot the Heinz salad dressing...

Oooh no we were dead common and had Heinz Salad Cream. Something I still
love is Salad Cream sandwiches....

Liz, who had just that last night for tea...


Rosalind C Mitchell

unread,
Jun 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/30/00
to
As I sat cleaning ferret hairs from my lump hammer, I noticed Sue
Mitchell opine on the topic of Feedback June 16:

>Good grief, was this a nation-wide thing then?!! :(

An oop North thing anyway.


>
>Oh, and you forgot the Heinz salad dressing...

That's true...

Robin Parkinson

unread,
Jun 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/30/00
to
In article <WMvseKA$9JX5...@imps.demon.co.uk>, Sue Mitchell
<s...@imps.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <qXh$qVAMSG...@aida.demon.co.uk>, Rosalind C Mitchell
> <r...@aida.demon.co.uk> writes
>>
>>Childhood Sunday teatimes have not been so resilient. They conjure up
>>tinned salmon, limp lettuce, neatly-sliced hardboiled egg, tinned
>>peaches and evaporated milk,
>

> Good grief, was this a nation-wide thing then?!! :(

That is mildly frightening. THe British Standard Sunday Tea. We
substituted beetroot for the hard-boiled egg, if I recall correctly.
And occasionally tinned pineapple stood in for the peaches.



> Oh, and you forgot the Heinz salad dressing...

<shudder>

- Robin.

--
Trout: Slightly fishy but never coarse. http://www.troutmag.org

Fenny

unread,
Jun 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/30/00
to
In article <WMvseKA$9JX5...@imps.demon.co.uk>, s...@imps.demon.co.uk
says...

> >Childhood Sunday teatimes have not been so resilient. They conjure up
> >tinned salmon, limp lettuce, neatly-sliced hardboiled egg, tinned
> >peaches and evaporated milk,
>
> Good grief, was this a nation-wide thing then?!! :(
>
Absolutely not. We usually ate the main Sunday meal in the evening so
Dad could spend the day working under the car without succumbing to
indigestion. In the early days it was usually eaten from trays (or a
coffee table for younger members) whilst watching The World Around Us on
BBC2 about 7.15pm. Later on it was consumed between 5.30 and 6pm so I
could go to the evening service after spending the afternoon slaving
over physics & latin homework due on Monday morning.
--
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those in touch with it."

Sue Mitchell

unread,
Jun 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/30/00
to
In article <2P775.136$X75....@nnrp4.clara.net>, Robin Parkinson
<ro...@troutmag.org> writes

>In article <WMvseKA$9JX5...@imps.demon.co.uk>, Sue Mitchell
><s...@imps.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> In article <qXh$qVAMSG...@aida.demon.co.uk>, Rosalind C Mitchell
>> <r...@aida.demon.co.uk> writes
>>>
>>>Childhood Sunday teatimes have not been so resilient. They conjure up
>>>tinned salmon, limp lettuce, neatly-sliced hardboiled egg, tinned
>>>peaches and evaporated milk,
>>
>> Good grief, was this a nation-wide thing then?!! :(
>
>That is mildly frightening. THe British Standard Sunday Tea. We
>substituted beetroot for the hard-boiled egg, if I recall correctly.
>And occasionally tinned pineapple stood in for the peaches.
>
>> Oh, and you forgot the Heinz salad dressing...
>
><shudder>
>
ROFL - join the gang!

Chris J Dixon

unread,
Jul 1, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/1/00
to
Robin Parkinson wrote:

> Sue Mitchell wrote:
>
>>Rosalind C Mitchell writes


>>>
>>>Childhood Sunday teatimes have not been so resilient. They conjure up
>>>tinned salmon, limp lettuce, neatly-sliced hardboiled egg, tinned
>>>peaches and evaporated milk,
>>
>> Good grief, was this a nation-wide thing then?!! :(
>
>That is mildly frightening. THe British Standard Sunday Tea. We
>substituted beetroot for the hard-boiled egg, if I recall correctly.
>And occasionally tinned pineapple stood in for the peaches.

Cucumber slices served swimming in vinegar. Mandarin oranges.
Birds Eye frozen cream cake. All consumed to the sound of Sing
Something Simple.

Chris
--
Chris J Dixon Nottingham
'48/51/23 M B+ G+ A L(-) I S-- CH-(--) Ar++ T+ H0 ?Q Sh+
chris...@easynet.co.uk
Have dancing shoes, will ceilidh.

Sue Mitchell

unread,
Jul 1, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/1/00
to
In article <9ubrls0k39hpgobmf...@4ax.com>, Chris J Dixon
<chris...@easynet.co.uk> writes

>Robin Parkinson wrote:
>
>> Sue Mitchell wrote:
>>
>>>Rosalind C Mitchell writes
>>>>
>>>>Childhood Sunday teatimes have not been so resilient. They conjure up
>>>>tinned salmon, limp lettuce, neatly-sliced hardboiled egg, tinned
>>>>peaches and evaporated milk,
>>>
>>> Good grief, was this a nation-wide thing then?!! :(
>>
>>That is mildly frightening. THe British Standard Sunday Tea. We
>>substituted beetroot for the hard-boiled egg, if I recall correctly.
>>And occasionally tinned pineapple stood in for the peaches.
>
>Cucumber slices served swimming in vinegar. Mandarin oranges.
>Birds Eye frozen cream cake. All consumed to the sound of Sing
>Something Simple.
>
Aaaaaaggggggghhhhhh! I'd forgotten that inescapable accompaniment 8-[

Chris McMillan

unread,
Jul 1, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/1/00
to
In article <2P775.136$X75....@nnrp4.clara.net>, Robin Parkinson
<URL:mailto:ro...@troutmag.org> wrote:
> In article <WMvseKA$9JX5...@imps.demon.co.uk>, Sue Mitchell
> <s...@imps.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > In article <qXh$qVAMSG...@aida.demon.co.uk>, Rosalind C Mitchell
> > <r...@aida.demon.co.uk> writes

> >>
> >>Childhood Sunday teatimes have not been so resilient. They conjure up
> >>tinned salmon, limp lettuce, neatly-sliced hardboiled egg, tinned
> >>peaches and evaporated milk,
> >
> > Good grief, was this a nation-wide thing then?!! :(
>
I have no idea about sunday tea at home: I was so rarely there, but my first
school actually produced honey or golden syrup to have with our bread and
marge - and it was followed by a piece of cake. Still had to have our bowl
of cereal though, the daily square of cheese and watercress too.

Robin Parkinson

unread,
Jul 2, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/2/00
to
In article <9ubrls0k39hpgobmf...@4ax.com>, Chris J Dixon
<chris...@easynet.co.uk> wrote:

> Robin Parkinson wrote:
>
>> Sue Mitchell wrote:
>>

>>>Rosalind C Mitchell writes


>>>>
>>>>Childhood Sunday teatimes have not been so resilient. They conjure up
>>>>tinned salmon, limp lettuce, neatly-sliced hardboiled egg, tinned
>>>>peaches and evaporated milk,
>>>
>>> Good grief, was this a nation-wide thing then?!! :(
>>

>>That is mildly frightening. THe British Standard Sunday Tea. We
>>substituted beetroot for the hard-boiled egg, if I recall correctly.
>>And occasionally tinned pineapple stood in for the peaches.
>
> Cucumber slices served swimming in vinegar. Mandarin oranges. Birds Eye
> frozen cream cake. All consumed to the sound of Sing Something Simple.

Argh! Sing Something Simple - the dread words that meant Sunday was nearly
over and school was looming....

Jo Lonergan

unread,
Jul 2, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/2/00
to
Reeling from the effect of a pub tequila sunrise on Fri, 30 Jun 2000
14:24:15 +0100, I may only have imagined hearing Sue Mitchell
<s...@imps.demon.co.uk> say:

>In article <qXh$qVAMSG...@aida.demon.co.uk>, Rosalind C Mitchell

><r...@aida.demon.co.uk> writes


>>
>>Childhood Sunday teatimes have not been so resilient. They conjure up
>>tinned salmon, limp lettuce, neatly-sliced hardboiled egg, tinned
>>peaches and evaporated milk,
>
>Good grief, was this a nation-wide thing then?!! :(
>

>Oh, and you forgot the Heinz salad dressing...
>

And the spring onions (but we never had evap)

--
Jo

Helen Brace

unread,
Jul 2, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/2/00
to

Sue Mitchell <s...@imps.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:734XgHAh...@imps.demon.co.uk...

> In article <2P775.136$X75....@nnrp4.clara.net>, Robin Parkinson
> <ro...@troutmag.org> writes

> >In article <WMvseKA$9JX5...@imps.demon.co.uk>, Sue Mitchell
> ><s...@imps.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> In article <qXh$qVAMSG...@aida.demon.co.uk>, Rosalind C Mitchell
> >> <r...@aida.demon.co.uk> writes
> >>>
> >>>Childhood Sunday teatimes have not been so resilient. They conjure up
> >>>tinned salmon, limp lettuce, neatly-sliced hardboiled egg, tinned
> >>>peaches and evaporated milk,
> >>
> >> Good grief, was this a nation-wide thing then?!! :(
> >
> >That is mildly frightening. THe British Standard Sunday Tea. We
> >substituted beetroot for the hard-boiled egg, if I recall correctly.
> >And occasionally tinned pineapple stood in for the peaches.
> >
> >> Oh, and you forgot the Heinz salad dressing...
> >
> ><shudder>
> >
> ROFL - join the gang!

And thin sliced bread and butter with the peaches and evaporated
milk....Yuck the thought still makes me feel ill.
Helen B

Helen Brace

unread,
Jul 2, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/2/00
to

Chris J Dixon <chris...@easynet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:9ubrls0k39hpgobmf...@4ax.com...

> Robin Parkinson wrote:
>
> > Sue Mitchell wrote:
> >
> >>Rosalind C Mitchell writes

> >>>
> >>>Childhood Sunday teatimes have not been so resilient. They conjure up
> >>>tinned salmon, limp lettuce, neatly-sliced hardboiled egg, tinned
> >>>peaches and evaporated milk,
> >>
> >> Good grief, was this a nation-wide thing then?!! :(
> >
> >That is mildly frightening. THe British Standard Sunday Tea. We
> >substituted beetroot for the hard-boiled egg, if I recall correctly.
> >And occasionally tinned pineapple stood in for the peaches.
>
> Cucumber slices served swimming in vinegar. Mandarin oranges.
> Birds Eye frozen cream cake. All consumed to the sound of Sing
> Something Simple.
>

Which my cousin renamed 'One Septic Pimple'.

And all those BFPO numbers with Sunday Lunch and family favorates.

Helen B

Robin Fairbairns

unread,
Jul 2, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/2/00
to
Jo Lonergan <jolon...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>And the spring onions (but we never had evap)

you don't know what you were missing: one of life's great treats is
the evaporated spring onions.
--
Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge

LizJ

unread,
Jul 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/3/00
to
Robin Fairbairns wrote:

> Jo Lonergan <jolon...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >And the spring onions (but we never had evap)
>
> you don't know what you were missing: one of life's great treats is
> the evaporated spring onions.
>

Just disappering into the ether...


Liz, who also remembers condensed milk sarnies.

anon...@firedrake.org

unread,
Jul 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/3/00
to
In message <39608757...@dcu.ie> LizJ wrote:

>Robin Fairbairns wrote:
>
>> Jo Lonergan <jolon...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >And the spring onions (but we never had evap)
>>
>> you don't know what you were missing: one of life's great treats is
>> the evaporated spring onions.
>>
>
>Just disappering into the ether...

Luckily only the springs evaporate, leaving the onions far more palatable.

>
>Liz, who also remembers condensed milk sarnies.

Ooh, mmm. It's not fair to remind me of such delights: dentistry has been
put off for another week and my mouth hurts, I hate to think what would
happen if I obeyed my impulse to find out whether those are still something
I like to eat.

--

Weevil


LizJ

unread,
Jul 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/3/00
to
anon...@firedrake.org wrote:

> In message <39608757...@dcu.ie> LizJ wrote:
>
> >Robin Fairbairns wrote:
> >
> >> Jo Lonergan <jolon...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >And the spring onions (but we never had evap)
> >>
> >> you don't know what you were missing: one of life's great treats is
> >> the evaporated spring onions.
> >>
> >
> >Just disappering into the ether...
>
> Luckily only the springs evaporate, leaving the onions far more palatable.

Grin.

> >
> >Liz, who also remembers condensed milk sarnies.
>
> Ooh, mmm. It's not fair to remind me of such delights: dentistry has been
> put off for another week and my mouth hurts, I hate to think what would
> happen if I obeyed my impulse to find out whether those are still something
> I like to eat.

Glad to see that someone else has a sweet tooth, oooppps sorry didn't mean to
remind you. Have you tried Ambersol liquid on cotton buds? Gets right to the
spot where it hurts, assuming it isn't inside the tooth...

Liz, rmembering her sore tooth underneath a crown - the dentist hadn't found
the 3rd root so the infection carried on and attacked that. You try telling the
dentist that the tooth that hurts is the dead one!

mary_...@cix.compulink.co.uk

unread,
Jul 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/3/00
to
In article <8eE75.1059$7l6.1...@nnrp3.clara.net>,
ro...@troutmag.org (Robin Parkinson) wrote:

> In article <9ubrls0k39hpgobmf...@4ax.com>,

>Chris J Dixon <chris...@easynet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Robin Parkinson wrote:
> >
> >> Sue Mitchell wrote:
> >>
> >>>Rosalind C Mitchell writes
> >>>>
> >>>>Childhood Sunday teatimes have not been so resilient.
>They conjure up tinned salmon, limp lettuce, neatly-sliced
>hardboiled egg, tinned peaches and evaporated milk,
> >>>
> >>> Good grief, was this a nation-wide thing then?!! :(
> >>
> >>That is mildly frightening. THe British Standard Sunday
>Tea. We substituted beetroot for the hard-boiled egg, if I
>recall correctly. And occasionally tinned pineapple stood in
>for the peaches.
> >
> > Cucumber slices served swimming in vinegar. Mandarin
>oranges. Birds Eye frozen cream cake. All consumed to the
>sound of Sing Something Simple.
>

> Argh! Sing Something Simple - the dread words that meant
>Sunday was nearly over and school was looming....

Wow. You've just viscerally reminded me that, however bad
things get now, they're _never_ going to be as bad as they
were then...

As for Sunday tea, I don't know: I never saw it. I was still
sitting in front of Sunday dinner's cabbage.

Mary

Robin Parkinson

unread,
Jul 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/3/00
to
In article <39608757...@dcu.ie>, LizJ <liz.j...@dcu.ie> wrote:

> Robin Fairbairns wrote:
>
>> Jo Lonergan <jolon...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >And the spring onions (but we never had evap)
>>
>> you don't know what you were missing: one of life's great treats is the
>> evaporated spring onions.
>>
>
> Just disappering into the ether...

New! Spring Onions in Ether! The lighter way to enjoy anaesthetic!

I think we've got a whole new range of snack foods here. Just the thing to
accompany your portion of self-battering pigeon.

Peter Hesketh

unread,
Jul 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/3/00
to
In article <39608757...@dcu.ie>, LizJ <liz.j...@dcu.ie> writes

>
>Liz, who also remembers condensed milk sarnies.
>
Conny-oggy butties, d'you mean?
--
Regards, Peter Hesketh, Mynyddbach, Monmouthshire UK
"Remember....Never drive faster than
your Guardian Angel can fly." - Anon

Stephen GC Tilley

unread,
Jul 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/3/00
to
In article <NVlKDABM...@phesk.demon.co.uk>,

Peter Hesketh <p...@phesk.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <39608757...@dcu.ie>, LizJ <liz.j...@dcu.ie> writes
> >
> >Liz, who also remembers condensed milk sarnies.
> >
> Conny-oggy butties, d'you mean?

I'm glad to say that when I was a 'sickly child' these were prescribed
the GP. I don't know if they did me any good but it made being poorly
just that little bit better.

--
Stephen Tilley - Til...@UKOnline.co.UK
Orthinologist, that is - a word-botcher.


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

anon...@firedrake.org

unread,
Jul 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/3/00
to
In message <3960BD69...@dcu.ie> Liz wrote sympathetically:

>anon...@firedrake.org wrote:
>
>> >Liz, who also remembers condensed milk sarnies.
>>

>> Ooh, mmm. It's not fair to remind me of such delights: dentistry has been
>> put off for another week and my mouth hurts, I hate to think what would
>> happen if I obeyed my impulse to find out whether those are still something
>> I like to eat.
>
>Glad to see that someone else has a sweet tooth, oooppps sorry didn't mean to
>remind you. Have you tried Ambersol liquid on cotton buds? Gets right to the
>spot where it hurts, assuming it isn't inside the tooth...

One is a tooth which has broken off, exposing the nerve inside a crater.
So Ambersol might work on that. Good thought.

>Liz, rmembering her sore tooth underneath a crown - the dentist hadn't found
>the 3rd root so the infection carried on and attacked that. You try telling the
>dentist that the tooth that hurts is the dead one!

That's the other.

One each side.

Luckily I have lots and lots of different recipes for soups which can be
taken through a straw.

Thank you for the sympathy and the suggestion.

--

Weevil


Neil Hopkins

unread,
Jul 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/3/00
to
On 3 Jul 2000 15:30:56 +0100, anon...@firedrake.org wrote:

>In message <39608757...@dcu.ie> LizJ wrote:
>
>Luckily only the springs evaporate, leaving the onions far more palatable.
>
>>

>>Liz, who also remembers condensed milk sarnies.
>
>Ooh, mmm. It's not fair to remind me of such delights: dentistry has been
>put off for another week and my mouth hurts, I hate to think what would
>happen if I obeyed my impulse to find out whether those are still something
>I like to eat.

My sympathies weevil - I was eating some spaghetti in a restaurent
last week and bit on a peppercorn. There was a horrible crunching
noise and half a tooth came loose - fortunately the dentist was able
to sort me out the next day, but I did have one night feeling very
sorry for myself. After a little experimentation I discovered that
Absinth over crushed ice was the best thing to numb the pain ...
medicinal purposes only, you understand!

neil h.
--
'I think I speak for everyone here when I say "Huh?"'
neil_h...@hotmail.com

Chris McMillan

unread,
Jul 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/3/00
to
In article <8jo75n$1rt$1...@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>, Robin Fairbairns

<URL:mailto:r...@betsy.cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> Jo Lonergan <jolon...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >And the spring onions (but we never had evap)
>
> you don't know what you were missing: one of life's great treats is
> the evaporated spring onions.
>
(squeals) ooh: we had those for breakfast this morning: they evaporated into
some fried eggs, which had been placed on toast and a slice of german cooked
ham (schinken for those who speak de lingo). Very scrummy.

Chris McMillan

unread,
Jul 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/3/00
to
In article <j_M75.4080$Tb2....@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com>, Helen Brace
<URL:mailto:helen...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> Chris J Dixon <chris...@easynet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:9ubrls0k39hpgobmf...@4ax.com...

> > Robin Parkinson wrote:
> >
> > > Sue Mitchell wrote:
> > >
> > >>Rosalind C Mitchell writes
> > >>>

> And all those BFPO numbers with Sunday Lunch and family favorates.
>
You don't wish Family Favourites still existed then, Helen? (ducks
quickly).

We used to listen to this if my aunt was at home (she worked shifts at the
monitoring station in Caversham), but she'd been in the RAF so no doubt it
*meant* something to her.

Fenny

unread,
Jul 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/3/00
to
In article <8jqqhk$1h0$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, til...@UKOnline.co.uk says...

>
> I'm glad to say that when I was a 'sickly child' these were prescribed
> the GP. I don't know if they did me any good but it made being poorly
> just that little bit better.
>
I prefer my GP's prescription of a long hot bath and a G&T :-)

Sue Mitchell

unread,
Jul 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/3/00
to
In article <8jqiq0$9n8$1...@plutonium.compulink.co.uk>, mary_...@cix.com
pulink.co.uk writes

>> >>>Rosalind C Mitchell writes
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Childhood Sunday teatimes have not been so resilient.
>>They conjure up tinned salmon, limp lettuce, neatly-sliced
>>hardboiled egg, tinned peaches and evaporated milk,
>> >>>
>> >>> Good grief, was this a nation-wide thing then?!! :(
>> >>
>> >>That is mildly frightening. THe British Standard Sunday
>>Tea. We substituted beetroot for the hard-boiled egg, if I
>>recall correctly. And occasionally tinned pineapple stood in
>>for the peaches.
>> >
>> > Cucumber slices served swimming in vinegar. Mandarin
>>oranges. Birds Eye frozen cream cake. All consumed to the
>>sound of Sing Something Simple.
>>
>> Argh! Sing Something Simple - the dread words that meant
>>Sunday was nearly over and school was looming....
>
>Wow. You've just viscerally reminded me that, however bad
>things get now, they're _never_ going to be as bad as they
>were then...
>
>As for Sunday tea, I don't know: I never saw it. I was still
>sitting in front of Sunday dinner's cabbage.
>
ROFL :)))))

Stephen GC Tilley

unread,
Jul 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/3/00
to
In article <MPG.13cb1a2ab...@news.lineone.net>,

ne...@rickmansworth.mersinet.co.uk wrote:
> In article <8jqqhk$1h0$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, til...@UKOnline.co.uk
says...
> >
> > I'm glad to say that when I was a 'sickly child' these were
prescribed
> > the GP. I don't know if they did me any good but it made being
poorly
> > just that little bit better.
> >
> I prefer my GP's prescription of a long hot bath and a G&T :-)

Ah, you see, I graduated through the 'sickly adolescent' stage and it
changed from condensed milk sandwiches to a pint of Mackeson plus a
pint of milk each day.

Now, Law of Sod decides I'm allergic to alchohol etc. And me rhematics
make the long hot bath the latest GP-prescribed remedy. The funny thing
it that I've been paying into a private health scheme for more than 20
years and never claimed a penny for myself.

nick odell

unread,
Jul 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/3/00
to
On 3 Jul 2000 21:19:09 +0100, anon...@firedrake.org wrote:

>In message <3960BD69...@dcu.ie> Liz wrote sympathetically:


>
>>
>>Glad to see that someone else has a sweet tooth, oooppps sorry didn't mean to
>>remind you. Have you tried Ambersol liquid on cotton buds? Gets right to the
>>spot where it hurts, assuming it isn't inside the tooth...
>
>One is a tooth which has broken off, exposing the nerve inside a crater.
>So Ambersol might work on that. Good thought.
>

Oil of Cloves is the traditional numbing agent for teeth and gums. Of
course I never have any around the place so I take a clove out of the
spice jar and after crushing it between my teeth, manipulate it onto
the pain spot and enjoy the deadening effect.

Nick
--
real e-mail is (all one word) themusicworkshop at cwcom.net

K Richard W

unread,
Jul 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/3/00
to
umrat, who posted on Mon, 3 Jul 2000 distracted me
sufficiently with the following opinion of recent events:

>dentistry has been
>put off for another week and my mouth hurts, I hate to think what would
>happen if I obeyed my impulse to find out whether those are still something
>I like to eat.

Filling today and all is well - although the one which is playing up
could not be tracked down - hopefully it will last through the holiday.
--
Kosmo Richard W
LSS super-numerary


LizJ

unread,
Jul 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/4/00
to
mary_...@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:

> As for Sunday tea, I don't know: I never saw it. I was still
> sitting in front of Sunday dinner's cabbage.

Oh dear, you had that punishment as well. I made sure I never did
that with my son. The only times I made him finish anything was
when he asked for more as I was dishing up. We had an agreement -
if I put it on the plate without any consultation with him, then
he eats as much or as little as he likes - if he puts it on the
plate or asks me to put more on, then he eats the whole lot up. I
started doing this when he was about 5 or 6 and didn't strictly
enforce it straight away.

Liz, who had horrible things like that happen to her in school
dinners. Shudder!

LizJ

unread,
Jul 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/4/00
to
Neil Hopkins wrote:

> Absinth over crushed ice was the best thing to numb the pain ...
> medicinal purposes only, you understand!

Oh sure we believe you, don't we?

Liz, who watch friends try After Shock in the pub on Friday night. They must be
mad!

LizJ

unread,
Jul 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/4/00
to
Stephen GC Tilley wrote:

> In article <NVlKDABM...@phesk.demon.co.uk>,
> Peter Hesketh <p...@phesk.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > In article <39608757...@dcu.ie>, LizJ <liz.j...@dcu.ie> writes
> > >

> > >Liz, who also remembers condensed milk sarnies.
> > >

> > Conny-oggy butties, d'you mean?
>

> I'm glad to say that when I was a 'sickly child' these were prescribed
> the GP. I don't know if they did me any good but it made being poorly
> just that little bit better.

Coo, why didn't I get anything like that? I can remember my big sis having
Mumps and being very envious because she had ice cream and had to suck ice
cubs (that the lady down the road made because we didn't have a fridge at
that time).

Liz, who also used to eat (?) condensed milk out of the can - sweet tooth?
Na, not really. ;-)

Tony Walton

unread,
Jul 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/4/00
to
LizJ wrote:
>
> I can remember my big sis having
> Mumps and being very envious because she had ice cream and had to suck ice
> cubs (that the lady down the road made because we didn't have a fridge at
> that time).


Can I have a BTN for what I'd *like* to say? Cubs?

--
Tony

Stephen GC Tilley

unread,
Jul 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/4/00
to
In article <3961F3D8...@uk.sun.com>,

Were they the polar wing of the wolf cubs?

anon...@firedrake.org

unread,
Jul 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/4/00
to
In message <396105db...@news.freeserve.net> Neil H wrote:

>My sympathies weevil - I was eating some spaghetti in a restaurent
>last week and bit on a peppercorn. There was a horrible crunching
>noise and half a tooth came loose - fortunately the dentist was able
>to sort me out the next day, but I did have one night feeling very
>sorry for myself. After a little experimentation I discovered that

>Absinth over crushed ice was the best thing to numb the pain ...
>medicinal purposes only, you understand!

Hhmmmmm. So in the case of a bad tooth, absinthes make the heart grow fonder?

--

Weevil


Chris McMillan

unread,
Jul 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/4/00
to
In article <8jqiq0$9n8$1...@plutonium.compulink.co.uk>,

<URL:mailto:mary_...@cix.compulink.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <8eE75.1059$7l6.1...@nnrp3.clara.net>,
> ro...@troutmag.org (Robin Parkinson) wrote:
>
> > In article <9ubrls0k39hpgobmf...@4ax.com>,
> >Chris J Dixon <chris...@easynet.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > Robin Parkinson wrote:
> > >
> > >> Sue Mitchell wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>Rosalind C Mitchell writes
> > >>>>

> As for Sunday tea, I don't know: I never saw it. I was still

> sitting in front of Sunday dinner's cabbage.
>

-:) Ah, you as well. While being under five (when I went off to boarding
school) apparently my parents were told that eating my veg would improve my
vision so dad says, and so I was made to eat everything on my plate - and
being my dad who is incredibly strict, he was going to make sure I did that.
Now, his youngest sister was (and is) incredibly picky with her food and he
wasn't going to have his daughter like that. (I'd give my eye teeth for her
figure though, much slimmer than I am, even now in her late 60s). So I had
to sit there until I'd eaten it all. Well, I never would eat it at lunch
time - so it was reproduced for me - cold - at tea time, when I woolfed it
back and then had whatever tea was.

I suspect that I was probably far too tired to eat at lunch time but was so
ravenous by tea time I would eat anything.

Fenny

unread,
Jul 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/4/00
to
In article <3961CCCD...@dcu.ie>, liz.j...@dcu.ie says...

>
> Liz, who had horrible things like that happen to her in school
> dinners. Shudder!
>
I was forced, on a daily basis, to eat school mashed potato. I sat
there while all the tables and chairs were stacked around me at the end
of dinner time. About the only thing infant school got me doing in 2
years that I couldn't already so when I got there was to eat a portion
of disgusting, lumpy grey slop :-(
--
Fenny

Aut id devorabis amabisque, aut cras prandebis... "You'll eat it and
like it, or have it for breakfast tomorrow"

Neil Hopkins

unread,
Jul 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/4/00
to

<groan> :-)

It is loading more messages.
0 new messages