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Chris McMillan
I am coming to Oxford on a Sunday in October: getting there late morning
and having the afternoon there. Hopefully several coach loads all told,
I'll probably have three or four overseas students with me.
I hardly know my own way round Oxford, never mind what might be open.
Any suggestions? Cheap or free too. I'll be given a small street map
and that'll be it. And I'd rather cater for rain and cold weather than
not.
Sincerely Chris
--
Chris McMillan
Kim Andrews
We can heartily recommend, if the opening hours coincide with
your visit, the Museum of Natural History, incorporating the Pitt
Rivers Museum. The Pitt Rivers, in particular, is absolutely
wonderful and full of fascinating stuff. The only hesitation I
would have for you personally, Chris, is that it is rather dimly
lit in order to protect the articles on display. But the main
museum is bright and airy and shouldn't give you any problems.
If Blackwells bookshop(s) open on Sundays, they're a must, and
the main branch has a superb coffee shop (though several
coachloads at once might stretch their capacity rather!)
All of the above mentioned places have web sites that should
provide more details (sorry, don't have URLs handy, you'll have
to Google).
Kimbo & robin
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Colin Blackburn
k...@totternhoe.demon.co.uk says...
> On Tue, 18 Sep 2001 20:39:25 +0100, Chris McMillan
> <ch...@mikesounds.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >I hardly know my own way round Oxford, never mind what might be open.
> >Any suggestions? Cheap or free too. I'll be given a small street map
> >and that'll be it. And I'd rather cater for rain and cold weather than
> >not.
> All of the above mentioned places have web sites that should
> provide more details (sorry, don't have URLs handy, you'll have
> to Google).
I will second all of those. The Pitt Rivers is a favourite of
mine. If you go into the Museum (Natural History) then be sure
to see the creepy-crawlies on the balcony. The building itself
is magnificent.
URL to all the University Museums:
http://www.ox.ac.uk/museums.html
If you want to visit a college then you could pop into Keble
(the brick college) opposite the Museum. This one is free (lots
charge) and the chapel (lots of mosaics and marble) houses "The
Light Of The World" by the pre-raphaelite whose name I forget
(it's in a side room to the right as you approach the altar.)
The Bodleian will be closed but you can wander around that area,
Sheldonian, Radcliffe Camera (Wren's third great dome---though
hardly Italian). As you walk up Parks Road to the Museum or
Keble take a look through Trnity's gate to see their gardens.
A little further up from Trinity is the University Parks which
is very nice, some beautiful trees and borders, if it's dry.
Head out along High Street to Magdalen Bridge, on the right
before the bridge are the University Botanical Gardens with some
great hothouses.
If I was in Oxford that day I would offer myself as a guide but
Sundays in October are pretty much booked up.
Let me know if you need any more directions or help.
Colin
anon...@firedrake.org
>If you want to visit a college then you could pop into Keble
>(the brick college) opposite the Museum. This one is free (lots
>charge) and the chapel (lots of mosaics and marble) houses "The
>Light Of The World" by the pre-raphaelite whose name I forget
>(it's in a side room to the right as you approach the altar.)
Holman Hunt? BICBAM
>Head out along High Street to Magdalen Bridge, on the right
>before the bridge are the University Botanical Gardens with some
>great hothouses.
Not apparently according to Tim Powers' latest book; I understand he has
them on Broad not High.... (and he was _at_ Oxford, lord help us.)
Weevil
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Colin Blackburn
anon...@firedrake.org says...
> In message <MPG.1613d952d...@news.ox.ac.uk> Colin Blackburn wrote:
>
> >If you want to visit a college then you could pop into Keble
> >(the brick college) opposite the Museum. This one is free (lots
> >charge) and the chapel (lots of mosaics and marble) houses "The
> >Light Of The World" by the pre-raphaelite whose name I forget
> >(it's in a side room to the right as you approach the altar.)
>
> Holman Hunt? BICBAM
TRAB
> >Head out along High Street to Magdalen Bridge, on the right
> >before the bridge are the University Botanical Gardens with some
> >great hothouses.
>
> Not apparently according to Tim Powers' latest book; I understand he has
> them on Broad not High.... (and he was _at_ Oxford, lord help us.)
What book's that then? He must have had a terrible time finding
some of the pubs then.
Colin
Helen Brace
<anon...@firedrake.org> wrote in message
news:20010920165108....@firedrake.org...
> In message <MPG.1613d952d...@news.ox.ac.uk> Colin Blackburn
wrote:
>
> >If you want to visit a college then you could pop into Keble
> >(the brick college) opposite the Museum. This one is free (lots
> >charge) and the chapel (lots of mosaics and marble) houses "The
> >Light Of The World" by the pre-raphaelite whose name I forget
> >(it's in a side room to the right as you approach the altar.)
>
> Holman Hunt? BICBAM
>
> >Head out along High Street to Magdalen Bridge, on the right
> >before the bridge are the University Botanical Gardens with some
> >great hothouses.
>
> Not apparently according to Tim Powers' latest book; I understand he has
> them on Broad not High.... (and he was _at_ Oxford, lord help us.)
>
Helen B
anon...@firedrake.org
It's called *Declare*. It's on the World Fantasy Award 2001 shortlist.
That little detail about the mere geography of a town is the least of its
minor inaccuracies, I am told. So maybe fantasy is right.... though it
does purport to be accurate historically, just with added djinni and extra
bits to Philby's life that might surprise the fellow somewhat.
I conclude that when in Oxford, Powers simply navigated from pub to pub and
never looked at the street names. That's one explanation, anyhow.
Rob Linham
<phys...@ermine.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
> If you want to visit a college then you could pop into Keble
> (the brick college) opposite the Museum.
<hisses>
> This one is free (lots
> charge)
e.g. Christ Church, Magdalen, Trinity, New - none of which, with the
possible exception of Christ Church (because of the Cathedral) are worth
the money)
St John's is free, and open from 1pm to 5pm most afternoons.
> and the chapel (lots of mosaics and marble) houses "The
> Light Of The World" by the pre-raphaelite whose name I forget
> (it's in a side room to the right as you approach the altar.)
William Holman Hunt IIRC
> Head out along High Street to Magdalen Bridge, on the right
> before the bridge are the University Botanical Gardens with some
> great hothouses.
AOL, wonderful.
> If I was in Oxford that day I would offer myself as a guide but
> Sundays in October are pretty much booked up.
AOL as well.
I had promised to reply further by e-mail, but my fellow Oxrat has done
much better than I ever could!
r.
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Robin Somes
<phys...@ermine.ox.ac.uk> writes
>I will second all of those. The Pitt Rivers is a favourite of mine. If you go
>into the Museum (Natural History) then be sure to see the creepy-crawlies
>on the balcony. The building itself is magnificent.
>
>URL to all the University Museums:
>
>http://www.ox.ac.uk/museums.html
And for the Pitt-Rivers: http://units.ox.ac.uk/departments/prm/
cheers,
robin
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>
>Head out along High Street to Magdalen Bridge, on the right
>before the bridge are the University Botanical Gardens with some
>great hothouses.
May I add an AOL to the Botanical Gardens, but don't tell eveyone.
Is the indoor market open on a Sunday?
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Colin Blackburn
> May I add an AOL to the Botanical Gardens, but don't tell eveyone.
Did I say that the Botanical gardens are free at this time of
year (well they're free to me at any time of year but for people
who don't happen to be members of the university they are free
in the colder months).
The University museums are all free too (at all times of year
and to everyone.)
> Is the indoor market open on a Sunday?
I don't think so, which is a shame because the building is worth
seeing.
Colin
Colin Blackburn
rob_l...@yahoo.co.uk says...
> On Thu, 20 Sep 2001 11:46:22 +0100, Colin Blackburn
> <phys...@ermine.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
> > If you want to visit a college then you could pop into Keble
> > (the brick college) opposite the Museum.
>
> <hisses>
I have no college affiliation and so remain impartial ;-)
> > This one is free (lots
> > charge)
>
> e.g. Christ Church, Magdalen, Trinity, New - none of which, with the
> possible exception of Christ Church (because of the Cathedral) are worth
> the money)
Is it not possible to visit the cathedral for free? Ater all, it
is the city's cathedral as well as Christ Church's chapel.
If you do visit Christ Church (the meadows are nice, especially
if the English Longhorns are still grazing) then don't trust the
clocks.
> I had promised to reply further by e-mail, but my fellow Oxrat has done
> much better than I ever could!
It comes from having guests in Oxford for the last two weekends,
they both got the same tour and I got to know more of Oxford.
Colin
mi...@ellwoods.org.uk
as I'm pretty hopeless about Oxford. I've
lived not far from it for decades, but still
don't know one college from another...well,
except for one or two obvious ones.
I haven't been there for a long time, but I can
remember being fascinated by the museum of the
History of Science in Broad Street, almost
opposite Blackwells, and on the same side as
the Sheldonian Theatre. However, its hours
of opening are (or were) somewhat restrictive.
If the weather's nice, and you don't mind shelling
out a bit, the open-top tour buses are actually
not bad. You can get off them and rejoin them
again later, on the same ticket, all day. I don't
know if they do group tickets.
--
mi...@ellwoods.org.uk
Penny
<phys...@ermine.ox.ac.uk> scrawled in the dust...
>Is it not possible to visit the cathedral for free? Ater all, it
>is the city's cathedral as well as Christ Church's chapel.
Pah! Tell that to the Dean and Chapter in Canterbury - I believe you can
get in for free if you are attending a service but otherwise you have to
pay just to get into the close these days :(
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If someone forgets to invite us to something, they can still be our friend.
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Mary Kemp
<URL:mailto:o...@deathsdoor.co.uk> wrote:
> Pah! Tell that to the Dean and Chapter in Canterbury - I believe you can
> get in for free if you are attending a service but otherwise you have to
> pay just to get into the close these days :(
Is it like Salisbury Cathedral where one goes through a turnstile to enter?
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>Penny Peter Hesketh memorial sig.
>Thirty reasons why we men have good reason to be proud of ourselves: number 10
>If someone forgets to invite us to something, they can still be our friend.
Aha! I *am* a woman, after all. This is the one I have actually done.
Well, it wasn't that she forgot, or even decided not to invite me. It
was the fact (I discovered from another friend) that I was on the "B"
list, to be invited if not enough people on the "A" list were able to
go.
--
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Penny
<ma...@ajl-electronics.demon.co.uk> scrawled in the dust...
>In article <ue7nqtg1vnra4g082...@4ax.com>, Penny
><URL:mailto:o...@deathsdoor.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Pah! Tell that to the Dean and Chapter in Canterbury - I believe you can
>> get in for free if you are attending a service but otherwise you have to
>> pay just to get into the close these days :(
>
>Is it like Salisbury Cathedral where one goes through a turnstile to enter?
Dunno, I'm fond of some of the stained glass in there and used to like
sitting in the close or adjacent garden to eat my lunch but I haven't even
approached the place since the entrance fee was enforced.
--
Penny Peter Hesketh memorial sig.
Thirty reasons why we men have good reason to be proud of ourselves: number 11
If you are 34 and single nobody notices.
Glynn & Kathy Greenwood
Penny <o...@deathsdoor.co.uk> wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Sep 2001 09:19:05 +0100, Colin Blackburn
> <phys...@ermine.ox.ac.uk> scrawled in the dust...
> >Is it not possible to visit the cathedral for free? Ater all, it
> >is the city's cathedral as well as Christ Church's chapel.
> Pah! Tell that to the Dean and Chapter in Canterbury - I believe you can
> get in for free if you are attending a service but otherwise you have to
> pay just to get into the close these days :(
Which is why HH painted a second LOTW for St Pauls Cathedral where anyone
could see it.
--
Glynn Greenwood
In Stony Stratford, gateway to the mystical city of Milton Keynes
Iain Archer
>In article <ue7nqtg1vnra4g082...@4ax.com>, Penny
><URL:mailto:o...@deathsdoor.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Pah! Tell that to the Dean and Chapter in Canterbury - I believe you can
>> get in for free if you are attending a service but otherwise you have to
>> pay just to get into the close these days :(
>
>Is it like Salisbury Cathedral where one goes through a turnstile to enter?
>
--
Iain Archer
Iain Archer
>In article <ue7nqtg1vnra4g082...@4ax.com>,
> Penny <o...@deathsdoor.co.uk> wrote:
>> On Fri, 21 Sep 2001 09:19:05 +0100, Colin Blackburn
>> <phys...@ermine.ox.ac.uk> scrawled in the dust...
>
>> >Is it not possible to visit the cathedral for free? Ater all, it
>> >is the city's cathedral as well as Christ Church's chapel.
>
>> Pah! Tell that to the Dean and Chapter in Canterbury - I believe you can
>> get in for free if you are attending a service but otherwise you have to
>> pay just to get into the close these days :(
>
>Which is why HH painted a second LOTW for St Pauls Cathedral where anyone
>could see it.
>
--
Iain Archer
Btms
things:
>Well, it wasn't that she forgot, or even decided not to invite me. It
>was the fact (I discovered from another friend) that I was on the "B"
>list, to be invited if not enough people on the "A" list were able to
>go.
>
Huh - you should complain. I am still smarting after failing to get on
to the list at all, of a friend who declares me to be her bested
friend, whose husbad claims me to have changed his life since wofe
attached herself to moi. Mind you - I never did believe their undying
love etc......... I suppose it made the blow a little easier to take.
--
Btms
Who is still nursing the physical achilles heel :-(
Charles F Hankel
> It cost two or three pounds to get in _there_ last time I looked.
It doesn't cost anything to go into Liverpool Cathedral, whicheve one you
try. Presumably it's down to market forces and neither having the nerve to
try to charge a fee for fear that everyone so threatened will join the
other sect.
--
Charles F Hankel
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Bernard M. Earp
<o...@deathsdoor.co.uk> writes
>On Sat, 22 Sep 2001 01:54:55 +0100, Mary Kemp
><ma...@ajl-electronics.demon.co.uk> scrawled in the dust...
>
>>In article <ue7nqtg1vnra4g082...@4ax.com>, Penny
>><URL:mailto:o...@deathsdoor.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Pah! Tell that to the Dean and Chapter in Canterbury - I believe you can
>>> get in for free if you are attending a service but otherwise you have to
>>> pay just to get into the close these days :(
>>
>>Is it like Salisbury Cathedral where one goes through a turnstile to enter?
>
>Dunno, I'm fond of some of the stained glass in there and used to like
>sitting in the close or adjacent garden to eat my lunch but I haven't even
>approached the place since the entrance fee was enforced.
Mmh, if one did not have the correct money for the turnstile and the
Dean in passing by offered to change your coinage could you as a
Christian throw him out?
--
Bernard M. Earp
Holding the Lancastrian heights of Bromley Cross
and the PLOP Award 2001
Stephen GC Tilley
>
>Mmh, if one did not have the correct money for the turnstile and the
>Dean in passing by offered to change your coinage could you as a
>Christian throw him out?
Only if it were a Foreign Exchange deal. The FX dealers were thrown out of the
temple, the real bankers are still there.
Mary Kemp
<URL:mailto:Ber...@earp.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <aaooqt8rrsielkilu...@4ax.com>, Penny
> <o...@deathsdoor.co.uk> writes
> >On Sat, 22 Sep 2001 01:54:55 +0100, Mary Kemp
> ><ma...@ajl-electronics.demon.co.uk> scrawled in the dust...
> >>Is it like Salisbury Cathedral where one goes through a turnstile to enter?
> >
> >Dunno, I'm fond of some of the stained glass in there and used to like
> >sitting in the close or adjacent garden to eat my lunch but I haven't even
> >approached the place since the entrance fee was enforced.
>
> Mmh, if one did not have the correct money for the turnstile and the
> Dean in passing by offered to change your coinage could you as a
> Christian throw him out?
I don't see why not. Jesus would have kicked down the turnstiles.
Charles F Hankel
> I don't see why not. Jesus would have kicked down the turnstiles.
Yes, but that was back in the days when Nazareth Rovers were in the First
Division. He's not the same force now since they were relegated from the
league, had to sell their ground and still went bankrupt.
Robin Parkinson
> Mary Kemp <ma...@ajl-electronics.demon.co.uk> said:
>
>> I don't see why not. Jesus would have kicked down the turnstiles.
>
> Yes, but that was back in the days when Nazareth Rovers were in the First
> Division. He's not the same force now since they were relegated from the
> league, had to sell their ground and still went bankrupt.
I always assumed that the old joke implied that Jesus was a goalie.
- Robin.
--
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Rosalind Mitchell
> Charles F Hankel wrote:
>
>> Mary Kemp <ma...@ajl-electronics.demon.co.uk> said:
>>
>>> I don't see why not. Jesus would have kicked down the turnstiles.
>>
>> Yes, but that was back in the days when Nazareth Rovers were in the First
>> Division. He's not the same force now since they were relegated from the
>> league, had to sell their ground and still went bankrupt.
>
> I always assumed that the old joke implied that Jesus was a goalie.
I thought it was the Ancient Mariner that was the goalie (that stoppeth one
of three)
Rosie
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Chris McMillan
<phys...@ermine.ox.ac.uk> writes
>In article <3bc26568....@news.demon.co.uk>,
>k...@totternhoe.demon.co.uk says...
>> On Tue, 18 Sep 2001 20:39:25 +0100, Chris McMillan
>> <ch...@mikesounds.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> >I hardly know my own way round Oxford, never mind what might be open.
>> >Any suggestions? Cheap or free too. I'll be given a small street map
>> >and that'll be it. And I'd rather cater for rain and cold weather than
>> >not.
>[...]
>> All of the above mentioned places have web sites that should
>> provide more details (sorry, don't have URLs handy, you'll have
>> to Google).
>
>I will second all of those.
Thanks ever, ever so much for all that. Its fantastic. While I can
afford to shell out, some of the students (most of the students) will
hardly have got used to the coinage, never mind working out what's good
value or not, so the more free I can go the better. Probably won't get
told how long we have or anything until I meet my 'chief guide' when he
comes to collect me on the actual day, so everything has been safely
stored away and will be put about my person for digestion at the time.
I've even found a little map of Oxford in a map book that Haze has just
bought at vast discount in a closing down sale somewhere in Reading.
Sincerely, Chris
--
Chris McMillan
Stephen
<ro...@troutmag.org> said:
>Charles F Hankel wrote:
>
>> Mary Kemp <ma...@ajl-electronics.demon.co.uk> said:
>>
>>> I don't see why not. Jesus would have kicked down the turnstiles.
>>
>> Yes, but that was back in the days when Nazareth Rovers were in the First
>> Division. He's not the same force now since they were relegated from the
>> league, had to sell their ground and still went bankrupt.
>
>I always assumed that the old joke implied that Jesus was a goalie.
I know that Abel considered selecting his brother as goalie, but the
latter wasn't sure that he had got the job.
--
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Blancmange is a dish best served cold.
Paddy Smith
"Charles F Hankel" <cha...@hankel.freedombird.net> wrote in message
news:773vqtoidnc4gqbn4...@4ax.com...
> Mary Kemp <ma...@ajl-electronics.demon.co.uk> said:
>
> > I don't see why not. Jesus would have kicked down the turnstiles.
>
> Yes, but that was back in the days when Nazareth Rovers were in the First
> Division. He's not the same force now since they were relegated from the
> league, had to sell their ground and still went bankrupt.
Didn't their merger with Dead Sea Wanderers keep them afloat?
Stephen GC Tilley
Stephen GC Tilley
AFAIR the Pope was a goalie.
Penny
scrawled in the dust...
>Charles F Hankel wrote:
>
>> Mary Kemp <ma...@ajl-electronics.demon.co.uk> said:
>>
>>> I don't see why not. Jesus would have kicked down the turnstiles.
>>
>> Yes, but that was back in the days when Nazareth Rovers were in the First
>> Division. He's not the same force now since they were relegated from the
>> league, had to sell their ground and still went bankrupt.
>
>I always assumed that the old joke implied that Jesus was a goalie.
The words of the Keith Donnelly song go...
Drop-kick me, Jesus, through the goal posts of life.
From which I had assumed the game was rugby.
Stephen GC Tilley
>
>On Mon, 24 Sep 2001 22:18:47 +0100, Robin Parkinson <ro...@troutmag.org>
>scrawled in the dust...
>
>>Charles F Hankel wrote:
>>
>>> Mary Kemp <ma...@ajl-electronics.demon.co.uk> said:
>>>
>>>> I don't see why not. Jesus would have kicked down the turnstiles.
>>>
>>> Yes, but that was back in the days when Nazareth Rovers were in the First
>>> Division. He's not the same force now since they were relegated from the
>>> league, had to sell their ground and still went bankrupt.
>>
>>I always assumed that the old joke implied that Jesus was a goalie.
>
>The words of the Keith Donnelly song go...
>Drop-kick me, Jesus, through the goal posts of life.
>
>From which I had assumed the game was rugby.
Grid-iron football. Along with whichever saint (James?) who uses it as his
trademark.
Siderius Nuncius
Penny wrote in message <7ig1rts9252pmmra8...@4ax.com>...
>>I always assumed that the old joke implied that Jesus was a goalie.
>
>The words of the Keith Donnelly song go...
>Drop-kick me, Jesus, through the goal posts of life.
>
>From which I had assumed the game was rugby.
I thinkthat the Old Joke referred to by the Honourable Umrat is:
Jesus Saves
(But Moses scores on the rebound.)
Aythengyeough.
--
Sid
Shepherds Bush, West London
Stephen
said:
St Laurence (Patron Saint of barbecues, inter alia)?
mi...@ellwoods.org.uk
:
: Jesus Saves
: (But Moses scores on the rebound.)
Not to be confused with the amended sign, outside
a nonconformist chapel:
"Jesus Saves"
to which a wag had added:
"With The Woolich!"
Neil Hopkins
<ro...@nospam.firedrake.org> wrote:
>In article <9osf73$10...@newton.cc.rl.ac.uk>, <mi...@ellwoods.org.uk> wrote:
>
>>Not to be confused with the amended sign, outside
>>a nonconformist chapel:
>>"Jesus Saves"
>>to which a wag had added:
>>"With The Woolich!"
>
>Saw one the other day:
>
>"With GOD, you're never the weakest link!"
>
>...so, um, in my relationship with God, I'm stronger than God? Did they
>_really_ mean that?
Does that make Ann Robinson the Devil?
--
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Spike: Out. For. A. Walk. ......... Bitch.
Tony Gartshore
siderius...@tesco.net says...
I thought the scouse version used to be
Jesus Saves
But (Ian) St John scores on the rebound.
T.
>
> Aythengyeough.
Bless you !
Charles F Hankel
> Charles F Hankel wrote:
>
> > Mary Kemp <ma...@ajl-electronics.demon.co.uk> said:
> >
> >> I don't see why not. Jesus would have kicked down the turnstiles.
> >
> > Yes, but that was back in the days when Nazareth Rovers were in the First
> > Division. He's not the same force now since they were relegated from the
> > league, had to sell their ground and still went bankrupt.
>
> I always assumed that the old joke implied that Jesus was a goalie.
Yes, and St John knocked in the rebound.
Charles F Hankel
Fro a while until that round robin tournament with the Red Sea Pedestrians
and Arrividerci Roma when they got crucified in the final.
Siderius Nuncius
Tony Gartshore wrote in message ...
>> (But Moses scores on the rebound.)
>
>I thought the scouse version used to be
>
> Jesus Saves
> But (Ian) St John scores on the rebound.
The one I heard was a graffito on a church billboard:
"What would you do if Christ came to Liverpool?"
to which was added "Move St. John to inside right."
Fenny
heard Stephen GC Tilley say...
> >>I always assumed that the old joke implied that Jesus was a goalie.
> >
> >I know that Abel considered selecting his brother as goalie, but the
> >latter wasn't sure that he had got the job.
>
> AFAIR the Pope was a goalie.
>
--
Fenny - C-COITUS (co)
Spike: The truth is - I like this world. You've got dog racing,
Manchester United and you've got people. Billions of people walking
around like Happy Meals with legs. It's alright here.
Charles F Hankel
> Jesus Saves
> (But Moses scores on the rebound.)
Sorry, Sid, but the original is "St John".
Paddy Smith
"Fenny" <allspamwil...@rickmansworth.mersinet.co.uk> wrote in
message news:MPG.161c4e50c...@news.onetel.net.uk...
> While shuddering at the thought of Xander and Anya getting engaged, I
> heard Stephen GC Tilley say...
> > >>I always assumed that the old joke implied that Jesus was a goalie.
> > >
> > >I know that Abel considered selecting his brother as goalie, but the
> > >latter wasn't sure that he had got the job.
> >
> > AFAIR the Pope was a goalie.
> >
> That was Pavarotti, wasn't it?
They both were. Karol Wojtyla used to guard the onion-bag in his local team
back home in Poland. Not sure how serious Pavarotti was, but he was a keeper
too. Mind you, Albert Camus played in goal *for* Algeria; you don't catch
Baudrillard doing anything fun like that.
If you want my opinion, and you don't, there's something about the
loneliness and responsibility of the goalkeeper that recommends the role to
existentialists, operatic tenors and, er, Christ's vicar. They also tend to
sport unpleasant facial hair.
Colin Blackburn
benb...@ukrm.net says...
> "Paddy Smith" <pjsm...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >. Mind you, Albert Camus played in goal *for* Algeria; you don't catch
> >Baudrillard doing anything fun like that.
> >
> >If you want my opinion, and you don't, there's something about the
> >loneliness and responsibility of the goalkeeper that recommends the role to
> >existentialists, operatic tenors and, er, Christ's vicar. They also tend to
> >sport unpleasant facial hair.
>
> football." - Albert Camus.
Now available on a t-shirt near you...
http://www.philosophy-football.co.uk/detail.asp?prod_id=39
Along with lots of other good footballing quotes including one
from Baudrillard...
http://www.philosophy-football.co.uk/detail.asp?prod_id=25
Is that repetition? Oh, it's been a long month!
Colin
--
Colin Blackburn
2002 United Nations Year of the Palindrome
The Purple Potter
>In article <mil4rt00sbodnsmul...@4ax.com>,
>benb...@ukrm.net says...
>> "Paddy Smith" <pjsm...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >. Mind you, Albert Camus played in goal *for* Algeria; you don't catch
>> >Baudrillard doing anything fun like that.
>> >
>> >If you want my opinion, and you don't, there's something about the
>> >loneliness and responsibility of the goalkeeper that recommends the role to
>> >existentialists, operatic tenors and, er, Christ's vicar. They also tend to
>> >sport unpleasant facial hair.
>>
>> "All that I know most surely about morality and obligations, I owe to
>> football." - Albert Camus.
>
>Now available on a t-shirt near you...
>
>http://www.philosophy-football.co.uk/detail.asp?prod_id=39
>
>Along with lots of other good footballing quotes including one
>from Baudrillard...
As stated in a previous thread, I have no knowledge of or interest in
football, other than the fact that Stroud is the home of the Football
Poets:
http://www.footballpoets.org/index.asp
--
Jane
The potter in the purple socks
http://www.clothandclay.co.uk
http://www.otbo.demon.co.uk/umracookbook.htm
Siderius Nuncius
Charles F Hankel wrote in message ...
>"Siderius Nuncius" <siderius...@tesco.net> said:
>
>> Jesus Saves
>> (But Moses scores on the rebound.)
>
>Sorry, Sid, but the original is "St John".
Fair enough, already.
Tony Walton
>
> While shuddering at the thought of Xander and Anya getting engaged, I
> heard Stephen GC Tilley say...
> > >>I always assumed that the old joke implied that Jesus was a goalie.
> > >
> > >I know that Abel considered selecting his brother as goalie, but the
> > >latter wasn't sure that he had got the job.
> >
> > AFAIR the Pope was a goalie.
> >
> That was Pavarotti, wasn't it?
Do you mean Pavarotti or Placido Domingo? Domingo definitely was.
--
Tony
Paddy Smith
"Colin Blackburn" <phys...@ermine.ox.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.161cdf1e2...@news.ox.ac.uk...
>
> Along with lots of other good footballing quotes including one
> from Baudrillard...
>
> http://www.philosophy-football.co.uk/detail.asp?prod_id=25
"Power is only too happy to make football bear a diabolical responsibility
for stupefying the masses"
A typically snotty, ignorant and ridiculous assertion from the big Frenchman
there Brian, just before being shown the yellow card for denying the speed
of light.
Mind you, I note that chris harrison's mate Umberto Eco said something
rather similar.
Paddy
K Richard W
with the following opinion of recent events:
>a closing down sale somewhere in Reading
Reading is closing down? That is the best news I have heard in a long
time.
--
Kosmo Richard W
LSS super-numerary
Siderius Nuncius
Paddy Smith wrote in message <9ov844$fj0nu$1...@ID-78501.news.dfncis.de>...
>
>"Colin Blackburn" <phys...@ermine.ox.ac.uk> wrote in message
>news:MPG.161cdf1e2...@news.ox.ac.uk...
>>
>> Along with lots of other good footballing quotes including one
>> from Baudrillard...
>>
>> http://www.philosophy-football.co.uk/detail.asp?prod_id=25
>
>"Power is only too happy to make football bear a diabolical responsibility
>for stupefying the masses"
>
>A typically snotty, ignorant and ridiculous assertion from the big
Frenchman
>there Brian, just before being shown the yellow card for denying the speed
>of light.
Ah've goat te correct ye there, Gary. If ye luke at the replay, he clearly
denoonced the speed of light, he didnae just deny ut. The ref had no choice,
and Bodie was lucky not tae be shown the red. And as fer tha' "diabolical
responsibility" stuff - I mean, hoo can ye defend tha', eh?
Shockin'. Really shockin'.
mi...@ellwoods.org.uk
:
: Reading is closing down? That is the best news I have heard in a long
: time.
Well, perhaps not closing down; I think it's going to be
renamed: "Watching Telly".
Stephen
<phys...@ermine.ox.ac.uk> said:
Quel coincidence - I am at this very moment wearing a Philosophy
Football shirt - a red one with the number 10 on the back along with
the name Wilson, and on the front a picture of the Jules Rimet trophy
and the quote "Have you noticed how we only win the World Cup under a
Labour government"(1).
Upstairs in my cupboard I have the Camus and Cain(2) shirts, but I
only wear them when actually keeping goal. I should point out that I
am not an existentialist, operatic tenor nor am I Christ's vicar. Nor
do I tend to sport unpleasant facial hair.
(1) http://www.philosophy-football.co.uk/detail.asp?prod_id=108
(2) http://www.philosophy-football.co.uk/detail.asp?prod_id=38
Rosalind Mitchell
I thought the original was derived from the "wayside pulpit" outside a
Liverpool church which read "What would you do if Christ came to
Liverpool?". Some wag wrote underneath
"MOVE ST JOHN TO INSIDE LEFT"
Rosie
--
Rosalind Mitchell - Worrier Princess
MAME, Curator of Umbeasts
Rosalind Mitchell
> While shuddering at the thought of Xander and Anya getting engaged, I
> heard Stephen GC Tilley say...
>> >>I always assumed that the old joke implied that Jesus was a goalie.
>> >
>> >I know that Abel considered selecting his brother as goalie, but the
>> >latter wasn't sure that he had got the job.
>>
>> AFAIR the Pope was a goalie.
>>
> That was Pavarotti, wasn't it?
No, it was Albert Camus
Charles F Hankel
> I am currently tempted by the Di Canio. [1] Oh what the heck, it's
> payday today. I'll get it.
>
>
> [1] http://www.philosophy-football.co.uk/detail.asp?prod_id=48
But the colours are so naff, aren't they?
Charles F Hankel
> I thought the original was derived from the "wayside pulpit" outside a
> Liverpool church which read "What would you do if Christ came to
> Liverpool?". Some wag wrote underneath
>
> "MOVE ST JOHN TO INSIDE LEFT"
I think there was a large number of such things around at the time - it's
not everyone who gets St.John in their team and the churches took a pasting
back then, especially the more evangelical ones.
Charles F Hankel
> Charles F Hankel <cha...@hankel.freedombird.net> wrote:
>
> >Ben Blaney <benb...@ukrm.net> said:
> >
> >> I am currently tempted by the Di Canio. [1] Oh what the heck, it's
> >> payday today. I'll get it.
> >>
> >>
> >> [1] http://www.philosophy-football.co.uk/detail.asp?prod_id=48
> >
> >But the colours are so naff, aren't they?
>
> True, true.
I recommend a nice red, maybe with white collar and cuffs for a bit of
subtle decoration.
Nice result at St James Park thisaffy. Where's me Jerry and the Pacemakers
record gone?