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Martin Clark

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Apr 30, 2003, 4:59:06 PM4/30/03
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Has anyone got any tips on painting skirting boards without painting the
carpet at the same time, please?
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Martin

Barbara W

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Apr 30, 2003, 5:36:09 PM4/30/03
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"Martin asks > Has anyone got any tips on painting skirting boards

without painting the
> carpet at the same time, please?

Try carpet protectors from DIY stores. They look like a series of convex
(concave?) rulers, you wedge then under the bottom of the skirting
board, and they hold the carpet pile back at an approx 45 degree angle.
Any paint goes on the protectors, not on the carpet. You have to leave
them in situ while the paint dries so you many need a couple of packets.
HTH
Barbara

K Richard W

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Apr 30, 2003, 5:47:06 PM4/30/03
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Waiting for Daff's Caff to re-open, Martin Clark living at As if!
decided to tell uk.media.radio.archers that

>Has anyone got any tips on painting skirting boards without painting the
>carpet at the same time, please?

Gaffer tape holds the universe together - along the carpet right up to
the skirting board perhaps?
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Kosmo Richard W
SNELLSS

Martin Clark

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Apr 30, 2003, 6:49:09 PM4/30/03
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I may be imagining things, but I thought K Richard W muttered something
about...

How do I remove the hamster hairs from the tape?
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Martin

Peter Alan

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May 1, 2003, 3:00:30 AM5/1/03
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Martin Clark <mar...@spl.at> wrote in message news:<Vyy46Aja...@auluk.freeserve.co.uk>...

> Has anyone got any tips on painting skirting boards without painting the
> carpet at the same time, please?

I know this isn't a very helpful reply but, having done a
lot of this, and talked to people who do it professionally,
I've come to the conclusion that what you do is be
very careful and paint with a steady hand.

I think that part of the problem is that anything that
protects the surrounding area almost encourages you to
be sloppy. If you do use tape, or something similar, all
I can suggest is that you paint as if it weren't there

Peter

Paul Griffiths

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May 1, 2003, 3:56:47 AM5/1/03
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"Martin Clark" <mar...@spl.at> wrote in message
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> Has anyone got any tips on painting skirting boards without painting the


> carpet at the same time, please?

My dad always used what he called a "George". It's a shaped, more or less
triangular, piece of aluminium that is used to keep the carpet fibres away
from the skirting and the paint off the carpet. They used to be readily
available, dunno if they still are.


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Paul Griffiths


Paradise Island Barchap

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May 1, 2003, 7:12:14 AM5/1/03
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I was going to suggest masking-tape (or masking-tape and newspaper, but
if you are careful, masking-tape alone might be ok.

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mi...@ellwoods.org.uk

Paradise Island Barchap

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May 1, 2003, 7:19:28 AM5/1/03
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From a similar philosophy, my FIL used to say you should paint
in your best Sunday clothes.


One of the pitfalls of using newspaper (as I previously suggested)
is that it's very easy to step into a patch of spilled paint on
the newspaper, not notice, then trail it into the rest of the house,
so it's best to replace the newspaper at intervals, if it's a long
job.

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Martin Clark

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May 1, 2003, 7:29:32 AM5/1/03
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I may be imagining things, but I thought Paradise Island Barchap
muttered something about...
This is what I have used previously, but it doesn't hold the pile of the
carpet down, so you are not able to paint to the bottom of the skirting
board. If you try compressing the pile, it tends to spring up again,
making the tape stick to the new paint, spoiling it.

Barbara's suggestion of carpet protectors sounds good, but I forgot to
look for them when I went to Bean Queue this morning.
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Martin

Mike McMillan

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May 1, 2003, 3:51:59 PM5/1/03
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In message <$AdSGXzl...@auluk.freeserve.co.uk>, Martin Clark
<mar...@spl.at> writes

'Sobvious really, you let a family of ducts loose in the room don't'cha?

Toodle Pip,

Mike
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GM6TRS

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"Paradise Island Barchap" <mi...@ellwoods.org.uk> wrote in message
news:Pine.WNT.4.50.0305011214530.-345247@oemcomputer...

>
> One of the pitfalls of using newspaper (as I previously suggested)
> is that it's very easy to step into a patch of spilled paint on
> the newspaper, not notice, then trail it into the rest of the house,
> so it's best to replace the newspaper at intervals, if it's a long
> job.
>
The other major problem is that 6 month old papers are always much
more interesting than today's, so I find I'm catching up on things I
didn't read at the time; probably 'cos I was painting something...

martin


Mike McMillan

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May 1, 2003, 3:55:09 PM5/1/03
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In message <b8qjtq$cfsdq$1...@ID-61355.news.dfncis.de>, Paul Griffiths
<pa...@griffam.co.uk> writes
I have one I bought to use when painting window frames - but I'm much
better than George and can still get paint everywhere! I'm the original
DecorHater!

Toodle Spilt,

Paul Griffiths

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May 2, 2003, 4:08:35 AM5/2/03
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"Mike McMillan" <tinne...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> In message <b8qjtq$cfsdq$1...@ID-61355.news.dfncis.de>, Paul Griffiths
> <pa...@griffam.co.uk> writes
> >"Martin Clark" <mar...@spl.at> wrote in message
> >news:Vyy46Aja...@auluk.freeserve.co.uk...
> >
> >> Has anyone got any tips on painting skirting boards without painting
the
> >> carpet at the same time, please?
> >
> >My dad always used what he called a "George". It's a shaped, more or
less
> >triangular, piece of aluminium that is used to keep the carpet fibres
away
> >from the skirting and the paint off the carpet. They used to be readily
> >available, dunno if they still are.
> >
> I have one I bought to use when painting window frames - but I'm much
> better than George and can still get paint everywhere! I'm the original
> DecorHater!

I've done a lot of DIY and decorating over the years and it's enjoyable but
gloss painting I really, really don't like at all and I have no idea why.


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Paul Griffiths


George Middleton

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May 2, 2003, 5:27:30 AM5/2/03
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Mike McMillan writes

>I have one I bought to use when painting window frames - but I'm much
>better than George and can still get paint everywhere! I'm the original
>DecorHater!

You are fighting capillary attraction and you just cannot win. The
tighter you press George against the skirting board or window frame the
smaller become the gaps between them and the more powerful the suck. So
the paint goes round George's bottom which he then wipes on your carpet
or window. Wouldn't you?
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George

Paradise Island Barchap

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May 2, 2003, 6:02:45 AM5/2/03
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On Fri, 2 May 2003, Paul Griffiths wrote:

> I've done a lot of DIY and decorating over the years and it's enjoyable but
> gloss painting I really, really don't like at all and I have no idea why.

It's sticky
It smells
Cleaning brushes is a pain

Just for starters.

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George Middleton

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May 2, 2003, 6:54:53 AM5/2/03
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Paradise Island Barchap writes

>On Fri, 2 May 2003, Paul Griffiths wrote:
>
>> I've done a lot of DIY and decorating over the years and it's enjoyable but
>> gloss painting I really, really don't like at all and I have no idea why.
>
>It's sticky
>It smells
>Cleaning brushes is a pain

I've solved that one.

Only clean brushes that have been used with water based paints. Wrap the
others in newspaper and chuck them into the bin.
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George

Penny

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May 2, 2003, 11:05:18 AM5/2/03
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On Fri, 2 May 2003 09:08:35 +0100, "Paul Griffiths" <pa...@griffam.co.uk>
scrawled in the dust...

>I've done a lot of DIY and decorating over the years and it's enjoyable but
>gloss painting I really, really don't like at all and I have no idea why.

I hate it too, can't stand the smell for one thing, quick drying acrylics
aren't quite so bad but aren't so tough.
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Penny

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May 2, 2003, 11:05:21 AM5/2/03
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On Fri, 2 May 2003 11:54:53 +0100, George Middleton <Geo...@Middleton.net>
scrawled in the dust...

Hmm, I usually take several days to do the job so that could get pricey but
I do wrap the brush I'm using in a plastic bag and stick in the freezer.
Not sure if this works with oil-based paints.

Paradise Island Barchap

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May 2, 2003, 11:32:20 AM5/2/03
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On Fri, 2 May 2003, Penny wrote:

> Hmm, I usually take several days to do the job so that could get pricey but
> I do wrap the brush I'm using in a plastic bag and stick in the freezer.
> Not sure if this works with oil-based paints.


You can actually leave them in water overnight, and they will still be
soft and usable next day, once you have wiped off the watery gunge on
some newspaper or old rag, etc. (This does work with oil-based paints).


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mi...@ellwoods.org.uk

Chris J Dixon

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May 2, 2003, 3:41:50 PM5/2/03
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Paul Griffiths wrote:

>I've done a lot of DIY and decorating over the years and it's enjoyable but
>gloss painting I really, really don't like at all and I have no idea why.

After many years of "real" gloss paint and decent brushes (can't
abide the one-coat stuff) I have tried the small foam rollers,
and found them to be very efficient, and the finish is still as
glossy as could be.

For what the rollers cost, they are disposable, though I wrap
them in cling film overnight, between coats.

Chris
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Chris J Dixon

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May 2, 2003, 3:42:34 PM5/2/03
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George Middleton wrote:

>You are fighting capillary attraction and you just cannot win. The
>tighter you press George against the skirting board or window frame the
>smaller become the gaps between them and the more powerful the suck. So
>the paint goes round George's bottom which he then wipes on your carpet
>or window. Wouldn't you?

George! Don't do that.

Mike McMillan

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May 2, 2003, 4:21:49 PM5/2/03
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In message <jip4bv4t9u11md21q...@4ax.com>, Penny
<sp...@labyrinth.freeuk.com> writes

>Hmm, I usually take several days to do the job so that could get pricey but
>I do wrap the brush I'm using in a plastic bag and stick in the freezer.
>Not sure if this works with oil-based paints.

Here follows a tip from a professional painter I know well:

Never wash gloss brushes until the job is complete; many brushes have a
hole in the handle and wire or a nail may be placed through the hole and
the brush suspended in a pot of water. To continue using brush (for the
same colour/session obviously!), shake out and wipe with rag before use.

My own tip, to keep a brush ready for another session (as above) wrap
brush in a strip of cling film; I find 5/6 turns and then sealing it
down keeps the brush in same condition for a few days without problems.

This has been a public service announcement No: PSA/DH/1032/74/Gloss.

Toodle Drip,

Mike McMillan

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May 2, 2003, 4:23:46 PM5/2/03
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In message <hEJuTjHC...@blueyonder.co.uk>, George Middleton
<Geo...@Middleton.net> writes

Well ... err, you should know I suppose! TMI?

Toodle Drip,

Paul Griffiths

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"Paradise Island Barchap" <mi...@ellwoods.org.uk> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 2 May 2003, Paul Griffiths wrote:
>
> > I've done a lot of DIY and decorating over the years and it's enjoyable
but
> > gloss painting I really, really don't like at all and I have no idea
why.
>
> It's sticky
> It smells
> Cleaning brushes is a pain

Did you have to remind me?

> Just for starters.

I'm particular about the preparation too so the above is more like
finishers.


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Paul Griffiths

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"Penny" <sp...@labyrinth.freeuk.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 2 May 2003 09:08:35 +0100, "Paul Griffiths" <pa...@griffam.co.uk>
> scrawled in the dust...
>
> >I've done a lot of DIY and decorating over the years and it's enjoyable
but
> >gloss painting I really, really don't like at all and I have no idea why.
>
> I hate it too, can't stand the smell for one thing, quick drying acrylics
> aren't quite so bad but aren't so tough.

I quite liked the water-based stuff but the result wasn't as good.


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Paul Griffiths

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May 2, 2003, 5:28:49 PM5/2/03
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"Chris J Dixon" <ch...@cdixon.me.uk> wrote in message
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> Paul Griffiths wrote:
>
> >I've done a lot of DIY and decorating over the years and it's enjoyable
but
> >gloss painting I really, really don't like at all and I have no idea why.
>
> After many years of "real" gloss paint and decent brushes (can't
> abide the one-coat stuff) I have tried the small foam rollers,
> and found them to be very efficient, and the finish is still as
> glossy as could be.

I've used one coat occasionally and it has always needed more than one coat.
In one case it needed three. :-(

> For what the rollers cost, they are disposable, though I wrap
> them in cling film overnight, between coats.

I've not tried rollers but I remember my dad using pad things a lot of years
ago. They were "new-fangled" then and the results were quite good but the
turps softened the plastic.


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Paul Griffiths


Chris J Dixon

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May 2, 2003, 6:04:04 PM5/2/03
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Paul Griffiths wrote:

>I've not tried rollers but I remember my dad using pad things a lot of years
>ago. They were "new-fangled" then and the results were quite good but the
>turps softened the plastic.

I've used them for emulsion for years, and having first tried it
with the traditional distemper brush, found them a great
improvement. Did once experiment with a big roller, but it
seemed much harder work. Perhaps I hadn't diluted the paint
enough, but I didn't want it flying everywhere.

Paradise Island Barchap

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May 2, 2003, 6:31:16 PM5/2/03
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On Fri, 2 May 2003, Mike McMillan wrote:

> In message <jip4bv4t9u11md21q...@4ax.com>, Penny
> <sp...@labyrinth.freeuk.com> writes
> >Hmm, I usually take several days to do the job so that could get pricey but
> >I do wrap the brush I'm using in a plastic bag and stick in the freezer.
> >Not sure if this works with oil-based paints.
>
> Here follows a tip from a professional painter I know well:
>
> Never wash gloss brushes until the job is complete; many brushes have a
> hole in the handle and wire or a nail may be placed through the hole and
> the brush suspended in a pot of water. To continue using brush (for the
> same colour/session obviously!), shake out and wipe with rag before use.
>
> My own tip, to keep a brush ready for another session (as above) wrap
> brush in a strip of cling film; I find 5/6 turns and then sealing it
> down keeps the brush in same condition for a few days without problems.
>
> This has been a public service announcement No: PSA/DH/1032/74/Gloss.


You can then use the clingfilm for your sandwiches.

That's PSA No: PSA/don't/try/this/at/home/kids


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mi...@ellwoods.org.uk

Paul Griffiths

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"Chris J Dixon" <ch...@cdixon.me.uk> wrote in message
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> Paul Griffiths wrote:
>
> >I've not tried rollers but I remember my dad using pad things a lot of
years
> >ago. They were "new-fangled" then and the results were quite good but
the
> >turps softened the plastic.
>
> I've used them for emulsion for years, and having first tried it
> with the traditional distemper brush, found them a great
> improvement.

Ah now I've used them with emulsion, I meant I hadn't used them with gloss.

Distemper? How old are you?

Bet you had oil cloth on the kitchen floor too. :-)

> Did once experiment with a big roller, but it
> seemed much harder work. Perhaps I hadn't diluted the paint
> enough, but I didn't want it flying everywhere.

The weird, jelly-like, non drip stuff is fun to play with, isn't it?


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Paul Griffiths


Chris J Dixon

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Paul Griffiths wrote:

>"Chris J Dixon" <ch...@cdixon.me.uk> wrote in message
>news:okq5bvkgodirvboqb...@4ax.com...

>> I've used them for emulsion for years, and having first tried it


>> with the traditional distemper brush, found them a great
>> improvement.

>Distemper? How old are you?

See the sig. Not that I have ever used distemper, but I suppose
I must have automatically adopted the term my dad used.


>
>Bet you had oil cloth on the kitchen floor too. :-)

Linoleum, with a pattern of small bricks.

>The weird, jelly-like, non drip stuff is fun to play with, isn't it?

Perhaps, in a thixotropic sort of way, just no good for actually
painting :-(

Paul Griffiths

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"Chris J Dixon" <ch...@cdixon.me.uk> wrote in message
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> Paul Griffiths wrote:
> >"Chris J Dixon" <ch...@cdixon.me.uk> wrote in message
> >news:okq5bvkgodirvboqb...@4ax.com...
>
> >> I've used them for emulsion for years, and having first tried it
> >> with the traditional distemper brush, found them a great
> >> improvement.
>
> >Distemper? How old are you?
>
> See the sig.

Is that a geek code or what?

> Not that I have ever used distemper, but I suppose
> I must have automatically adopted the term my dad used.

Same here. Also true for whitewash.

> >Bet you had oil cloth on the kitchen floor too. :-)
>
> Linoleum, with a pattern of small bricks.

Linoleum is a fairly old term too.

> >The weird, jelly-like, non drip stuff is fun to play with, isn't it?
>
> Perhaps, in a thixotropic sort of way, just no good for actually
> painting :-(

True.


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Siderius Nuncius

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May 3, 2003, 3:22:06 AM5/3/03
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Mike McMillan wrote in message ...

>
>My own tip, to keep a brush ready for another session (as above) wrap
>brush in a strip of cling film; I find 5/6 turns and then sealing it
>down keeps the brush in same condition for a few days without problems.
>
>This has been a public service announcement No: PSA/DH/1032/74/Gloss.


So all's for the best, really.

This has been public service announcement No: PSA/DH/1032/75/Pangloss
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Shepherds Bush, West London


George Middleton

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May 3, 2003, 4:41:52 AM5/3/03
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Siderius Nuncius writes

>>This has been a public service announcement No: PSA/DH/1032/74/Gloss.
>
>
>So all's for the best, really.
>
>This has been public service announcement No: PSA/DH/1032/75/Pangloss

What world do you *live* in Sid?
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Chris J Dixon

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May 3, 2003, 5:15:54 AM5/3/03
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Paul Griffiths wrote:

>"Chris J Dixon" <ch...@cdixon.me.uk> wrote in message

>> See the sig.


>
>Is that a geek code or what?
>

http://www.lowfield.co.uk/archers/geek.html

Kim Andrews

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May 3, 2003, 5:34:47 AM5/3/03
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The best of all possible.
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Paul Griffiths

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"Chris J Dixon" <ch...@cdixon.me.uk> wrote in message
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> Paul Griffiths wrote:
> >"Chris J Dixon" <ch...@cdixon.me.uk> wrote in message
>
> >> See the sig.
> >
> >Is that a geek code or what?
> >
> http://www.lowfield.co.uk/archers/geek.html

Ah, okay, that explains it all.

Thanks.


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Martin Clark

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I may be imagining things, but I thought Paul Griffiths muttered
something about...
Not quite all: what are the numbers at the beginning, Chris?
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Paul Griffiths

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"Martin Clark" <mar...@spl.at> wrote in message
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As I said, *that* explains it all. Try reading it again.


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Martin Clark

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I may be imagining things, but I thought Paul Griffiths muttered
something about...
>"Martin Clark" <mar...@spl.at> wrote in message
>news:$SUyShJD...@auluk.freeserve.co.uk...
>> I may be imagining things, but I thought Paul Griffiths muttered
>> something about...
>> >"Chris J Dixon" <ch...@cdixon.me.uk> wrote in message
>> >news:f527bvorr67jjhe0b...@4ax.com...
>> >> Paul Griffiths wrote:
>> >> >"Chris J Dixon" <ch...@cdixon.me.uk> wrote in message
>> >>
>> >> >> See the sig.
>> >> >
>> >> >Is that a geek code or what?
>> >> >
>> >> http://www.lowfield.co.uk/archers/geek.html
>> >
>> >Ah, okay, that explains it all.
>> >
>> Not quite all: what are the numbers at the beginning, Chris?
>
>As I said, *that* explains it all. Try reading it again.
>
Oh yes. I'd been taking reading lessons from Sheila from Another Place.
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David Medcalf

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May 3, 2003, 10:14:12 AM5/3/03
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On Fri, 2 May 2003 09:08:35 +0100, "Paul Griffiths"
<pa...@griffam.co.uk> wrote:

>I've done a lot of DIY and decorating over the years and it's enjoyable but
>gloss painting I really, really don't like at all and I have no idea why.

This is obviously a strange fetish which is
best....err..well....glossed over. :-)

David

Paul Griffiths

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"Martin Clark" <mar...@spl.at> wrote in message
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> I may be imagining things, but I thought Paul Griffiths muttered
> something about...
> >"Martin Clark" <mar...@spl.at> wrote in message
> >news:$SUyShJD...@auluk.freeserve.co.uk...
> >> I may be imagining things, but I thought Paul Griffiths muttered
> >> something about...
> >> >"Chris J Dixon" <ch...@cdixon.me.uk> wrote in message
> >> >news:f527bvorr67jjhe0b...@4ax.com...

> >> >> http://www.lowfield.co.uk/archers/geek.html


> >> >
> >> >Ah, okay, that explains it all.
> >> >
> >> Not quite all: what are the numbers at the beginning, Chris?
> >
> >As I said, *that* explains it all. Try reading it again.
> >
> Oh yes. I'd been taking reading lessons from Sheila from Another Place.

Silly boy, I hope she's not charging you.


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Paul Griffiths

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May 3, 2003, 4:26:49 PM5/3/03
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"David Medcalf" <david_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Shouldn't that be anti-fetish?

Oh and I'd need a good rub down first. As I've said elsewhere, I believe
preparation to be crucial.


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Paul Griffiths


Chris McMillan

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May 3, 2003, 2:38:37 PM5/3/03
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In message <nlt5bvg2r1k9s67d0...@4ax.com>, Chris J Dixon
<ch...@cdixon.me.uk> writes

>Paul Griffiths wrote:
>
>>"Chris J Dixon" <ch...@cdixon.me.uk> wrote in message
>>news:okq5bvkgodirvboqb...@4ax.com...
>
>>> I've used them for emulsion for years, and having first tried it
>>> with the traditional distemper brush, found them a great
>>> improvement.
>
>>Distemper? How old are you?
>
>See the sig.
>
:-) There's not many of you still using that, Chris. (And don't ask
me: I never did use it)

Perhaps you'd all like to form an orderly queue before Paul at the BBQ
for an explanation from Chris?

Sincerely Chris
--
Chris McMillan
reply to: chris.m...@ntlworld.com
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mike.mcmillan/

Robert Carnegie

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May 3, 2003, 11:59:05 PM5/3/03
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In article <jip4bv4t9u11md21q...@4ax.com>,
Penny <sp...@labyrinth.freeuk.com> writes
>On Fri, 2 May 2003 11:54:53 +0100, George Middleton
><Geo...@Middleton.net>
>scrawled in the dust...

>>Only clean brushes that have been used with water based paints. Wrap
>>the others in newspaper and chuck them into the bin.


>
>Hmm, I usually take several days to do the job so that could get pricey but
>I do wrap the brush I'm using in a plastic bag and stick in the freezer.
>Not sure if this works with oil-based paints.

There are sets of extremely cheap paintbrushes now from
anything-for-a-pound shops, made no doubt from the hair of
imprisoned Chinese dissidents - well, perhaps... anyway, in
purely commercial terms you could consider them disposable.

Robert Carnegie at home, rja.ca...@excite.com at large
--
If I didn't love the sound of my own fingers typing,
I wouldn't be here in the first place.
(Swiped from Andrew Wheeler, SFBC, New Jersey.)

Linda Fox

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May 4, 2003, 6:59:44 AM5/4/03
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On Sat, 3 May 2003 08:22:06 +0100, "Siderius Nuncius"
<siderius...@tesco.net> wrote:


>So all's for the best, really.
>
>This has been public service announcement No: PSA/DH/1032/75/Pangloss

Do you have to be so candid?

lff

Linda Fox

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May 4, 2003, 7:03:13 AM5/4/03
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On Fri, 2 May 2003 23:33:22 +0100, "Paul Griffiths"
<pa...@griffam.co.uk> wrote:


>The weird, jelly-like, non drip stuff is fun to play with, isn't it?

Are you a nose-picker, Paul?

lff

Linda Fox

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May 4, 2003, 7:05:04 AM5/4/03
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On Fri, 02 May 2003 20:42:34 +0100, Chris J Dixon <ch...@cdixon.me.uk>
wrote:


>George! Don't do that.

"I know I said you could choose what you do, but you cannot choose to
blow at Edgar."

lff

David Medcalf

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May 5, 2003, 9:33:50 AM5/5/03
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On Sat, 3 May 2003 21:26:49 +0100, "Paul Griffiths"
<pa...@griffam.co.uk> wrote:

>Oh and I'd need a good rub down first. As I've said elsewhere, I believe
>preparation to be crucial.

LOL! Better than being rubbed up the wrong way. So I'm told. :-)

David

M...@mygaff0.demon.co.uk

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May 6, 2003, 7:00:17 PM5/6/03
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In article <Vyy46Aja...@auluk.freeserve.co.uk>, Martin Clark
<mar...@spl.at> writes
>Has anyone got any tips on painting skirting boards without painting the
>carpet at the same time, please?
Coming to this late (was that you I spotted at Badminton, Helen
Mumford?) I find an ordinary plastic ruler jammed at the bottom at a
sort of 45 degree angle so you're squashing the carpet *away* from the
board (obviously moved on, cleaned at frequent intervals) works very
well - as well as *lying* on the carpet to do it (down Brrittski!)
rather than stooping
--
Min
But you're really a mackerel in the moonlight

Nick Atty

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May 7, 2003, 1:22:18 PM5/7/03
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On Fri, 2 May 2003 11:54:53 +0100, George Middleton
<Geo...@Middleton.net> wrote:

>Paradise Island Barchap writes


>>On Fri, 2 May 2003, Paul Griffiths wrote:
>>
>>> I've done a lot of DIY and decorating over the years and it's enjoyable but
>>> gloss painting I really, really don't like at all and I have no idea why.
>>

>>It's sticky
>>It smells
>>Cleaning brushes is a pain
>
>I've solved that one.


>
>Only clean brushes that have been used with water based paints. Wrap the
>others in newspaper and chuck them into the bin.

That's a very modern throw-away society approach. Why not do what I do.
Take the used brushes, put them in a pot with white spirit. Leave lying
around the house for several weeks until the white spirit has
evaporated. *Then* chuck them in the bin. Much more traditional.

For extra effect, knock the pot over at some intermediate stage.
--
On-line canal route planner: http://www.canalplan.org.uk

(Waterways World site of the month, April 2001)

Nick Atty

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May 7, 2003, 1:22:19 PM5/7/03
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On Fri, 02 May 2003 20:42:34 +0100, Chris J Dixon <ch...@cdixon.me.uk>
wrote:

>George Middleton wrote:
>
>>You are fighting capillary attraction and you just cannot win. The
>>tighter you press George against the skirting board or window frame the
>>smaller become the gaps between them and the more powerful the suck. So
>>the paint goes round George's bottom which he then wipes on your carpet
>>or window. Wouldn't you?


>
>George! Don't do that.

I'm afraid you've got rather a blue ear.

Chris J Dixon

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May 7, 2003, 2:05:04 PM5/7/03
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Nick Atty wrote:

>That's a very modern throw-away society approach. Why not do what I do.
>Take the used brushes, put them in a pot with white spirit. Leave lying
>around the house for several weeks until the white spirit has
>evaporated. *Then* chuck them in the bin. Much more traditional.
>

That seems reminiscent of the way of putting sickly pot plants
outside for a bit of "fresh air". Few make it back ;-(

Martin Clark

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May 7, 2003, 4:26:07 PM5/7/03
to
I may be imagining things, but I thought Nick Atty muttered something
about...

>That's a very modern throw-away society approach. Why not do what I do.
>Take the used brushes, put them in a pot with white spirit. Leave lying
>around the house for several weeks until the white spirit has
>evaporated. *Then* chuck them in the bin. Much more traditional.
>

Oh, I thought *I* had invented that technique, but, of course, one is
never alone on umra.
--
Martin

Martin Clark

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May 7, 2003, 4:35:24 PM5/7/03
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I may be imagining things, but I thought Chris J Dixon muttered
something about...

>Nick Atty wrote:
>
>>That's a very modern throw-away society approach. Why not do what I do.
>>Take the used brushes, put them in a pot with white spirit. Leave lying
>>around the house for several weeks until the white spirit has
>>evaporated. *Then* chuck them in the bin. Much more traditional.
>>
>That seems reminiscent of the way of putting sickly pot plants
>outside for a bit of "fresh air". Few make it back ;-(
>
That reminds me of a technique I used with non-urgent paper-work. I
would put it in a tuit tray, where it accumulated until such rare
moments that I had time to look at it, by which time, much of it was so
out-of-date that there was no longer any need to do it.
--
Martin

Paradise Island Barchap

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May 7, 2003, 5:07:18 PM5/7/03
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A variation on this, for use with water-based paints, is to leave the
brushes in a pout (TWITBILI) with water for a few weeks until the metal in
the brushes is nicely rusted. Continue then as above.

--
mi...@ellwoods.org.uk

Rosemary Miskin

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May 7, 2003, 5:14:27 PM5/7/03
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In article <8kiibvssj3qmkrisi...@4ax.com>, Chris J Dixon

<ch...@cdixon.me.uk> wrote:
> That seems reminiscent of the way of putting sickly pot plants
> outside for a bit of "fresh air". Few make it back ;-(

Speak for yourself. We've got lots of pot-plants which spend summer outside,
including a money-plant which stands five feet high, and is at least 25
years old - I know it was badly-frosted in the poorch of a house we moved
out of 21 years ago, amd it was several years old then.

We've also got a collection of epiphyllums - relatives of the Christmas
Cactus, but /much/ more spectacular. They're im full flower in the house at
present: one has thirty scarlet flowers, each about six inches across,
another variety has lovely pink flowers, only about four inches long, but in
even greater abundance. When they've finished flowering, they will go into
the garden until autumn. Again, I'm not sure how long we've been doing that,
but they were originally grown by my Father, and he's been dead nine years.

Rosemary


--
Rosemary Miskin ZFC LVI mis...@argonet.co.uk
Loughborough, UK http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/miskin

Penny

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May 7, 2003, 5:49:18 PM5/7/03
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On Wed, 7 May 2003 21:35:24 +0100, Martin Clark <mar...@spl.at> scrawled in
the dust...

>That reminds me of a technique I used with non-urgent paper-work. I
>would put it in a tuit tray, where it accumulated until such rare
>moments that I had time to look at it, by which time, much of it was so
>out-of-date that there was no longer any need to do it.

I've got shedloads of paperwork like that...
--
Penny
Laughter is the dance of the spirit and the music of the soul.
umra Nicknames & Abbreviations http://www.bigwig.net/umra/nicks.html

Helen

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May 7, 2003, 6:20:04 PM5/7/03
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On Wed, 7 May 2003 00:00:17 +0100, "M...@mygaff0.demon.co.uk"
<M...@mygaff0.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>In article <Vyy46Aja...@auluk.freeserve.co.uk>, Martin Clark
><mar...@spl.at> writes
>>Has anyone got any tips on painting skirting boards without painting the
>>carpet at the same time, please?
>Coming to this late (was that you I spotted at Badminton, Helen
>Mumford?) I find an ordinary plastic ruler jammed at the bottom at a

No. I wish ;-(
I was painting (walls, not gloss) last weekend. I watched the (meagre)
TV coverage of Badminton though. Didn't spot you, Min.

I toyed with going to Larkhill at Easter, then didn't go. Had I
spotted Brennig's post before the event, that might have tipped the
balance and I'd have gone.

backlog now <1000, but umra is displacing me from revision - which is
what I should be doing. (Italian, GCSE, if anyone wonders)

<relurk>


--
Helen Mumford
Salisbury

Fenny

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May 7, 2003, 6:39:20 PM5/7/03
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Previously on Buffy the Vampire Slayer ^W^W^W^W uk.media.radio.archers,
I heard Penny say...

> On Wed, 7 May 2003 21:35:24 +0100, Martin Clark <mar...@spl.at> scrawled in
> the dust...
>
> >That reminds me of a technique I used with non-urgent paper-work. I
> >would put it in a tuit tray, where it accumulated until such rare
> >moments that I had time to look at it, by which time, much of it was so
> >out-of-date that there was no longer any need to do it.
>
> I've got shedloads of paperwork like that...
>
I've been slowly disposing of mine. 12 months after leaving work, I
have managed to throw away the box of stuff that moved with me to my new
office 18 months before that. But there is still some stuff in the loft
that came down with me from the Huddersfield office and could do with
looking at.
--
Fenny
Fictitious Facts of the Day - From a list by Andrew Burford
#188 - 2,000,000egg cartons and 3,500,00 washing up liquid bottles went
into the making of Star Wars

Fenny

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May 7, 2003, 6:40:54 PM5/7/03
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Previously on Buffy the Vampire Slayer ^W^W^W^W uk.media.radio.archers,
I heard Helen say...

> No. I wish ;-(
> I was painting (walls, not gloss) last weekend. I watched the (meagre)
> TV coverage of Badminton though. Didn't spot you, Min.
>
> I toyed with going to Larkhill at Easter, then didn't go. Had I
> spotted Brennig's post before the event, that might have tipped the
> balance and I'd have gone.

They were having horse trials at college today, but I didn't have a
chance to stop and watch them as I was working this afternoon.


>
> backlog now <1000, but umra is displacing me from revision - which is
> what I should be doing. (Italian, GCSE, if anyone wonders)
>

My plant propagation assignment was due in yesterday and I haven't
started it yet :-(

Jenny M Benson

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May 8, 2003, 5:33:41 AM5/8/03
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>including a money-plant which stands five feet high, and is at least 25
>years old -

Impressive! Mine is a mere 2 foot (not inc pot) but it is a lot
younger. Unfortunately, I haven't a clue now just how old it is.

>We've also got a collection of epiphyllums - relatives of the Christmas
>Cactus, but /much/ more spectacular.

They're gorgeous, aren't they? I call them "Joe's cactus" after the
person who first gave me one and only very recently found out what their
proper name is. I put my two huge ones outside last summer and they
were *ruined* by slugs and snails. They looked so unsightly (and I was
having trouble finding space for them) that I decided to start again
with a cutting.

--
Jenny

Paul Griffiths

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May 12, 2003, 5:49:28 PM5/12/03
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"David Medcalf" <david_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3rpcbvkbsjnfucbmc...@4ax.com...

Right now I'd be tempted to overlook the direction as long as the results
were good.


--
Paul Griffiths


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