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Paradise Island Barchap

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Jul 8, 2003, 10:31:19 AM7/8/03
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Did we actually hear how Adam disposed of the hide and guts?


How did Brian use to get rid of his deer before wonderboy
came along?

How are they planning to actually sell the end product.
I know they are using Tom's butcher to make them into
joints, but then what?


--
mi...@ellwoods.org.uk

Tony Bryer

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Jul 8, 2003, 11:28:58 AM7/8/03
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In article
<Pine.WNT.4.56.0...@harris.CIS.rl.ac.uk>, Paradise
Island Barchap wrote:
> Did we actually hear how Adam disposed of the hide and guts?

I questioned a month or two back what the other tenants of the
industrial units would say when confronted by dead deer being
carted around the car park.

I confess to being one of those townies who would prefer to
believe that meat comes from supermarkets <g>

--
Tony Bryer

Steve Brooks

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Jul 8, 2003, 12:41:54 PM7/8/03
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Paradise Island Barchap wrote:

> Did we actually hear how Adam disposed of the hide and guts?

Mrs Miggin's deluxe game pie?

> How did Brian use to get rid of his deer before wonderboy
> came along?

Good question. I can't imagine whoever he sells most of them to being
willing to transport them live.

> How are they planning to actually sell the end product.
> I know they are using Tom's butcher to make them into
> joints, but then what?

IIRC Adam believes he has spotted a niche in the local Farmers' markets.

--
SB


Jenny M Benson

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Jul 8, 2003, 1:24:58 PM7/8/03
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In message <bees9u$4542d$1...@ID-109455.news.dfncis.de>, Steve Brooks
<IDontHave...@hotmail.com> writes

>IIRC Adam believes he has spotted a niche in the local Farmers'
>markets.

I've been looking for a niche for a while myself. I'll see if I can get
one at the next Wrecsam Farmers' Market.
--
Jenny

Nigel Whittington

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Jul 8, 2003, 4:09:22 PM7/8/03
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Paradise Island Barchap <mi...@ellwoods.org.uk> wrote in message news:<Pine.WNT.4.56.0...@harris.CIS.rl.ac.uk>...

> Did we actually hear how Adam disposed of the hide and guts?
>
If we find out, do you think he could help get rid of my gut?

OTOH perhaps he's into leather?


TTFN

Nigel

Chris McMillan

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Jul 8, 2003, 5:25:04 PM7/8/03
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In message <Pine.WNT.4.56.0...@harris.CIS.rl.ac.uk>,
Paradise Island Barchap <mi...@ellwoods.org.uk> writes

>
>Did we actually hear how Adam disposed of the hide and guts?
>
>
They had to be 'inspected' by Mr. Meat Insp.

>
>How did Brian use to get rid of his deer before wonderboy
>came along?
>
We don't know.

>
>How are they planning to actually sell the end product.
>
Farmers Markets is the only thing definitely. Hollerton on Friday for
starters. (Tuesday spoiler, but probably mentioned before this).

Sincerely Chris

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Paradise Island Barchap

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Jul 8, 2003, 6:52:54 PM7/8/03
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On Tue, 8 Jul 2003, Chris McMillan wrote:

> >Did we actually hear how Adam disposed of the hide and guts?
> >
> >
> They had to be 'inspected' by Mr. Meat Insp.

That was only the hide, wasn't it? Anyway, they'd still have
to dispose of it. I don't suppose he wanted it.

> >How are they planning to actually sell the end product.
> >
> Farmers Markets is the only thing definitely. Hollerton on Friday for
> starters. (Tuesday spoiler, but probably mentioned before this).

Ah yes, heard about that tonight. And they are having to lay out
on a chill counter (do they carry this to market each time? -
must be hard work). Got to sell a lot to recoup this. If you cost
their time, I wonder if it's really profitable. More profitable than
not selling any deer, I suppose, which is what Brian seems to have
been doing up till now.

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mi...@ellwoods.org.uk

Paradise Island Barchap

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Jul 8, 2003, 7:00:03 PM7/8/03
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On Tue, 8 Jul 2003, Nigel Whittington wrote:

> Paradise Island Barchap <mi...@ellwoods.org.uk> wrote in message news:<Pine.WNT.4.56.0...@harris.CIS.rl.ac.uk>...
> > Did we actually hear how Adam disposed of the hide and guts?
> >
> If we find out, do you think he could help get rid of my gut?

I think he'd recommend a good workout.

> OTOH perhaps he's into leather?

Well, we know he's into the sound of willow on leather.

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mi...@ellwoods.org.uk

M...@mygaff0.demon.co.uk

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Jul 8, 2003, 7:29:01 PM7/8/03
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In article <Pine.WNT.4.50.0307082349560.-597999@oemcomputer>, Paradise
Island Barchap <mi...@ellwoods.org.uk> writes

>Ah yes, heard about that tonight. And they are having to lay out
>on a chill counter (do they carry this to market each time? -
>must be hard work). Got to sell a lot to recoup this. If you cost
>their time, I wonder if it's really profitable. More profitable than
>not selling any deer, I suppose, which is what Brian seems to have
>been doing up till now.
>
They may be looking at the outlay as recouping their training costs (as
I am doing with my latest hobby...)
--
Min
So where are all the buffaloes?

Jenny M Benson

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Jul 9, 2003, 5:00:12 AM7/9/03
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In message <Pine.WNT.4.50.0307082358470.-597999@oemcomputer>, Paradise
Island Barchap <mi...@ellwoods.org.uk> writes

>Well, we know he's into the sound of willow on leather.

I think Sandy would have something severe to say about that.
--
Jenny

Stephen GC Tilley

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Jul 9, 2003, 8:42:54 AM7/9/03
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I think it was on Tue, 8 Jul 2003, that I heard the Barchap say ...

>
>How did Brian use to get rid of his deer before wonderboy
>came along?

Wholesale.

>How are they planning to actually sell the end product.

Retail.

>I know they are using Tom's butcher to make them into
>joints, but then what?

I don't think all the deer will go the farmers' market way but I suppose that
they think it worthwhile to get a premium by selling it on themselves. Of course
they could hedge their exposure to the vagaries of any particular Farmers'
market by agreeing to sell any/all unsold to Gay Grables at an agreed price.

I'm surprised they didn't ask Jean-Paul for advice on the butchering style.

--
Stephen Tilley -+- Ste...@Tilley.net
No longer resident in the South East.

Steve Brooks

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Jul 9, 2003, 12:39:12 PM7/9/03
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Stephen GC Tilley wrote:
> Barchap say ...
>>
>> How did Brian use to get rid of his deer before wonderboy
>> came along?
>
> Wholesale.
>
>> How are they planning to actually sell the end product.
>
> Retail.
>
>> I know they are using Tom's butcher to make them into
>> joints, but then what?
>
> I don't think all the deer will go the farmers' market way but I
> suppose that they think it worthwhile to get a premium by selling it
> on themselves. Of course they could hedge their exposure to the
> vagaries of any particular Farmers' market by agreeing to sell
> any/all unsold to Gay Grables at an agreed price.
>
> I'm surprised they didn't ask Jean-Paul for advice on the butchering
> style.

I wonder how long they are planning to hang the meat. If Adam is off to
sell some this weekend I will be disappointed.

--
SB


badriya

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Jul 10, 2003, 5:34:15 AM7/10/03
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On Wed, 9 Jul 2003 17:39:12 +0100, "Steve Brooks"
<IDontHave...@hotmail.com> wrote:


>
>I wonder how long they are planning to hang the meat. If Adam is off to
>sell some this weekend I will be disappointed.

I wondered about that. I thought deer had to hang for ages until it
was rotten before you ate it.


Vicky
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Paradise Island Barchap

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Jul 10, 2003, 8:06:15 AM7/10/03
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On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, badriya wrote:

> On Wed, 9 Jul 2003 17:39:12 +0100, "Steve Brooks"
> <IDontHave...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> >
> >I wonder how long they are planning to hang the meat. If Adam is off to
> >sell some this weekend I will be disappointed.
>
> I wondered about that. I thought deer had to hang for ages until it
> was rotten before you ate it.

Slightly different, but The Food Programme was talking about this
sort of thing recently. Apparently, Jamie Oliver has persuaded
Sainsburys to hang their meat (beef I think) for 21 days (at least
in what I presume is their more expensive range). He'd have liked
28, but is happy to have got 21. The usual is 3 I think, these days.

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Robin Fairbairns

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Jul 22, 2003, 7:09:06 PM7/22/03
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Paradise Island Barchap <mi...@ellwoods.org.uk> writes:
>On Tue, 8 Jul 2003, Nigel Whittington wrote:
>> Paradise Island Barchap <mi...@ellwoods.org.uk> wrote...

>> > Did we actually hear how Adam disposed of the hide and guts?
>>
>> OTOH perhaps he's into leather?
>
>Well, we know he's into the sound of willow on leather.

in that well-known game where someone bowls a willow bat at someone
holding a red leather ball....
--
Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge

SBrown6524

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Jul 23, 2003, 4:43:24 AM7/23/03
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>n that well-known game where someone bowls a willow bat

or in our house the well known game
of a puppy bowling Willow flat on her face.

at last we can take him out but can we stop him running everywhere on noooooo

Im far too old for this puppy business
sandy

Bernard Earp

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"Robin Fairbairns" <r...@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote in message
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Oh that and there was me having a quiet thunk about Evil Willow in her
tight leather dress

> Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge


Penny

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Jul 27, 2003, 7:00:24 PM7/27/03
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On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 15:31:19 +0100, Paradise Island Barchap
<mi...@ellwoods.org.uk> scrawled in the dust...

>
>Did we actually hear how Adam disposed of the hide and guts?
>
>
>How did Brian use to get rid of his deer before wonderboy
>came along?

Very good question and surely the carcasses were not allowed to hang long
enough?

--
Penny
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Jenny M Benson

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Jul 28, 2003, 5:46:13 AM7/28/03
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In message <tam8iv0e7t0cm2bvv...@4ax.com>, Penny
<sp...@labyrinth.freeuk.com> writes

>Very good question and surely the carcasses were not allowed to hang
>long enough?

Not at all, I'd say.

Not sure how long is long enough, but would hazard a guess that as
venison is game it should be hung a bit longer than been and therefore
at the very least 28 days for a decent joint, I would have thought.

Good opportunity there for a bit of Education of the Public (very much
in TA tradition) I'd have thought, putting across how important a good
hang is. (Over to you, Brritski.)

--
Jenny

Paradise Island Barchap

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Jul 28, 2003, 6:11:11 AM7/28/03
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As mentioned here a few weeks ago, Jamie Oliver told the Food Programme
he had wanted Sainsburys to hang their beef for 28 days. They only
agreed to 21, but he thought that was a good start. So, you'd expect
game to be longer, I would have thought.

--
mi...@ellwoods.org.uk

Bear

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Jul 28, 2003, 7:55:42 AM7/28/03
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Paradise Island Barchap wibbled ...

This is all IIRC, but I *think* game tends to be hung at room
temperature or at the very least stone larder temperature, whereas
supermarket beef tends to be chilled when hung, which I would have
thought would affect things hugely; so 7 days, say, at room temperature
would be far more "gamey" than 28 days in a chiller.

I could be hugely wrong though.
--
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"I was so much older then; I'm younger than that now"
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Major James Bigglesworth

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Jul 28, 2003, 7:58:07 AM7/28/03
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In article <Pine.WNT.4.56.0...@harris.CIS.rl.ac.uk>,
Paradise Island Barchap <mi...@ellwoods.org.uk> writes

>As mentioned here a few weeks ago, Jamie Oliver told the Food Programme


>he had wanted Sainsburys to hang their beef for 28 days. They only
>agreed to 21, but he thought that was a good start.

Sainsburys in Kidlington had a load of this reduced to half-price last
weekend, so my freezer is full.

Delicious!
--
Major James Bigglesworth DSO, DFC
http://members.lycos.co.uk/Biggles266/main.htm

Mike Ruddock

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Aug 14, 2003, 1:04:58 PM8/14/03
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I've just come across these posts, having been away for a couple of
weeks (1). I hope that will excuse a mini-Gilliver. (2)

While I was away I read The Odyssey again and was amazed at the number
of times a guest (usually Od himself) would roll up out of the blue
and the host would instantly butcher a few beasts, roast them and
serve them up for consumption. They must have been as tough as
boot-leather.

Mike Ruddock

1. Italy, for the opera (excellent, apart from a fatuous error of
astronomy on the part of the director of La Boheme). The weather was
even worse than here, since although the daytime temperatures may only
(!) have reached 38 or so, the night temperatures rarely fell below
25.

2. Not sure about the scale here. JG sometimes puts a post in several
months after the major contributions appeared.


Linda Fox

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Aug 14, 2003, 1:44:50 PM8/14/03
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On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 18:04:58 +0100, Mike Ruddock
<mi...@ruddock50.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:


>1. Italy, for the opera (excellent, apart from a fatuous error of
>astronomy on the part of the director of La Boheme).

Well, go on, then, don't keep us in suspenders!

lff

Bernard Earp

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Aug 15, 2003, 4:32:56 AM8/15/03
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"Mike Ruddock" <mi...@ruddock50.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:0venjvgkf7v5qh0p2...@4ax.com...

> 1. Italy, for the opera (excellent, apart from a fatuous error of
> astronomy on the part of the director of La Boheme). The weather was
> even worse than here, since although the daytime temperatures may only
> (!) have reached 38 or so, the night temperatures rarely fell below
> 25.

Did Special Effects for one Fantasy play at the theatre which had been
written by one of our actors.

I argued much and more with him about the line "I have visited one planet
which is in permenant darkness because it has a multitude of suns even to
the extent of buying him a copy of "Nightfall"

That was the one where I was told "Bernard we need two rocks for the next
scene. . . . One levitates and the other explodes"

"When do you need them for?"

"Ten minutes . . . . "

Robin Fairbairns

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Aug 17, 2003, 3:56:11 AM8/17/03
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"Bernard Earp" <Bernar...@ntlworld.com> writes:
>"Mike Ruddock" <mi...@ruddock50.fsnet.co.uk> wrote...

>> 1. Italy, for the opera (excellent, apart from a fatuous error of
>> astronomy on the part of the director of La Boheme). The weather was
>> even worse than here, since although the daytime temperatures may only
>> (!) have reached 38 or so, the night temperatures rarely fell below
>> 25.

i can't even think how astronomy could affect boheme (accent omitted
since neither of us can remember whether it's acute or grave[*]).

>Did Special Effects for one Fantasy play at the theatre which had been
>written by one of our actors.
>
>I argued much and more with him about the line "I have visited one planet
>which is in permenant darkness because it has a multitude of suns even to
>the extent of buying him a copy of "Nightfall"

:-)

>That was the one where I was told "Bernard we need two rocks for the next
>scene. . . . One levitates and the other explodes"
>
>"When do you need them for?"
>
>"Ten minutes . . . . "

we went to a performance of lampe's "pyramus and thisbe" last night
(words "after shakespeare"). the first singer to come on stage
(walking up the aisle) was the wall. a wall dressed as a wall, but
with so many effects about his person that it was hard not to start
the performance with a shout of laughter.

he had a cat sleeping on his shoulder (that he could animate by
pulling its tail), he had a spade leaning up against one side of him,
he had an ornamental vase of flowers on his head and rambling roses
all over him, that the "producer" of the opera-within-an-opera felt
the need to water, and his suit was such that he could shrug his
shoulders in such a way that his head (and brick-coloured face) almost
disappeared.

the same actor got completely re-made-up and reappeared later as the
moon on a scooter (the producer had to "explain" to his "audience"
that his little lamp didn't _need_ a candle). this time he got his
laughs by his acting (including the most ineffably silly grin, and
gliding back and forth over the stage on his scooter in a completely
improbable way, for a moon, as well as getting in the way of the other
singers).

[*] lff's just looked it up: it's bohème
--
Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge

Iain Archer

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Aug 17, 2003, 9:22:11 AM8/17/03
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Robin Fairbairns wrote on Sun, 17 Aug 2003:

>the same actor got completely re-made-up and reappeared later as the
>moon on a scooter (the producer had to "explain" to his "audience" that
>his little lamp didn't _need_ a candle). this time he got his laughs
>by his acting (including the most ineffably silly grin, and gliding
>back and forth over the stage on his scooter in a completely improbable
>way, for a moon, as well as getting in the way of the other singers).
>

My only worry is that a scooter's speed might not be constant enough.
But the metaphor's fine. I remember standing by a Clerkenwell bus stop
one dark evening when a Sinclair C5 slowly transited in front of us. The
silent motion of its light reminded me instantly of my first sight of
Sputnik 3 passing overhead many years before.

>[*] lff's just looked it up: it's bohème

I blame anglicised mis-Frenchified pronunciations -- like saying Dégas
when we mean Degas. (I hope I'm not wrong on this last one, though I
feel very alone; I don't think I've ever heard anyone pronounce it
without a quasi-acute accent.)

While I'm here, sumrats may like to know that over on uk.finance and
uk.legal there's a proponent of Feng Shui being very educative.

I've also just found out that the Bluetooth (wireless) protocol contains
a state known as 'Sniff mode'. It's when a device is trying to
find a like soul to communicate with. I'm thinking that some studied
redeconstructing of Mrs S. may be in order.
--
Iain Archer
"Yes, the toilet is an area of very negative energy." uk.legal 17/8/03

Penny

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Aug 17, 2003, 10:11:13 AM8/17/03
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On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 14:22:11 +0100, Iain Archer <i...@nospam.demon.co.uk>
scrawled in the dust...

>I blame anglicised mis-Frenchified pronunciations -- like saying Dégas
>when we mean Degas.

Some years ago one of the paint companies called a range of their (somewhat
bright) colours after impressionist painters. The lad in the shop said "Ah,
you mean dee gas".

Stephen GC Tilley

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Aug 18, 2003, 7:06:59 AM8/18/03
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On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 15:11:13 +0100, I'm sure that I heard Penny say ...

>
>On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 14:22:11 +0100, Iain Archer <i...@nospam.demon.co.uk>
>scrawled in the dust...
>
>>I blame anglicised mis-Frenchified pronunciations -- like saying Dégas
>>when we mean Degas.
>
>Some years ago one of the paint companies called a range of their (somewhat
>bright) colours after impressionist painters. The lad in the shop said "Ah,
>you mean dee gas".

Isn't Stepon dee Gas involved in motorsport?

--
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Without work life goes rotten.
But when work is soulless, life stifles and dies. - Albert Camus

Kim Andrews

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Aug 18, 2003, 8:58:30 AM8/18/03
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On 18 Aug 2003 04:06:59 -0700, Stephen GC Tilley <Ste...@Tilley.net>
wrote:

>
>>Some years ago one of the paint companies called a range of their (somewhat
>>bright) colours after impressionist painters. The lad in the shop said "Ah,
>>you mean dee gas".
>
>Isn't Stepon dee Gas involved in motorsport?

Are you sure you're not getting confused by Toulouse Le Track? Or
possibly Whistler's Motor? And of course, being such an expensive
pastime, everybody knows you need sponsors putting in plenty of Monet.
In truck racing, of course, old Vincent Van Go does very well.
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Mike Ruddock

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Aug 19, 2003, 2:29:10 PM8/19/03
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On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 18:44:50 +0100, Linda Fox <lind...@ntlworld.com>
wrote:

Well, if you insist. (It may go on a bit)

The stage, which is very large at Torre de Lago, was backed
with a large screen in the form of an artist's canvas mounted upon its
easel. Upon this screen were projected images to help with the
atmosphere. In Act One there were images taken from well known
paintings (a Picasso self-portarit; a Modigliani nude) and later, the
snow covered roofs (1) of Paris. So far, so acceptable, though the
constant changing of the images tended to distract from the action on
stage.
In Act Four the roofs re-appeared and gradually faded and were
replaced by a representation of the sky. A pale disc appeared in the
top right hand corner of the screen. Probably the sun, I thought, to
cover the stage direction requiring a ray of sunlight to strike Mimi's
face as she lies on the divan.
The "sun" then began to move slowly across the screen and
down. This was a plonking symbol of either Mimi's life or the love
between her and Rodolpho, (2) because when it reached the horizon, it
became the upper lobe of a lop-sided heart. Then it set completely as
Mimi died.
So what? I hear you ask. (3) Well I was personally affronted
by the fact that the "sun" moved to the left. In Paris, I can assure
you, the sun appears to move to the right.

Mike Ruddock

1. Rooves?

2. And why not - since the growth of their love during the last few
minutes of Act One was symbolised by a rainbow which grew between two
fortuitously placed sets of chimney pots?

3. Cracking acoustics this new machine of mine has.

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Andy Dingley

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On 20 Aug 2003 04:18:16 -0700, news...@spampot.com (Benny) wrote:

>All the
>glasses wearers - including the main character played by Kevin Costner
>- had fake flat plastic "lenses" in their specs. The refections were
>all wrong and it completely distracted me.

I'm very short sighted. My shades (at great expense) are like this -
the outer surface is almost flat, to get a suitable lens to fit into
the frame.

It's weird. People _do_ notice this. Lots of people ask me "Is there
something wrong with your glasses ?" or "Are they just dummy lenses ?"

Stephen GC Tilley

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On Tue, 19 Aug 2003, I'm sure that I heard Mike Ruddock say ...

>
> So what? I hear you ask. (3) Well I was personally affronted
>by the fact that the "sun" moved to the left. In Paris, I can assure
>you, the sun appears to move to the right.

I blame Rupert Murdoch.

Bernard Earp

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"Benny" <news...@spampot.com> wrote in message
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>
> What did bother me though, was the fillum "JFK"
> (http://www.imdb.com/Title?0102138) on the box recently. All the


> glasses wearers - including the main character played by Kevin Costner
> - had fake flat plastic "lenses" in their specs. The refections were

> all wrong and it completely distracted me. For a few dollars more
> (http://us.imdb.com/Title?0059578) they could have fitted proper
> curved zero-prescription lenses, donchafink?

What used to get me was the practise of older actors who would put on
glasses to read a line in , say, a letter
then snatch them off and comment on the line they had read then replace them
to read the next bit but always snatching them off before looking up and
informing the rest of the cast of further reading


Stephen GC Tilley

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On Thu, 21 Aug 2003, I'm sure that I heard Bernard Earp say ...

>
>What used to get me was the practise of older actors who would put on
>glasses to read a line in , say, a letter
>then snatch them off and comment on the line they had read then replace them
>to read the next bit but always snatching them off before looking up and
>informing the rest of the cast of further reading

That was the trademark idiosyncracy of my headmaster who was born c. 1900. He
even used to do it when singing bass solos. Perhaps it was a age thing?

Jenny M Benson

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Aug 22, 2003, 2:28:09 PM8/22/03
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In message <bi555...@drn.newsguy.com>, Stephen GC Tilley
<Ste...@Tilley.net> writes

>>What used to get me was the practise of older actors who would put on
>>glasses to read a line in , say, a letter
>>then snatch them off and comment on the line they had read then replace them
>>to read the next bit but always snatching them off before looking up and
>>informing the rest of the cast of further reading
>
>That was the trademark idiosyncracy of my headmaster who was born c.
>1900. He even used to do it when singing bass solos. Perhaps it was a
>age thing?

I tend to do something very similar myself if alternately reading and
talking to people. The reason being that with my current reading
glasses on, I cannot focus on anything further than a few inches from my
face and I don't feel comfortable talking to someone if they are out of
focus.
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Jenny
I'm a nutritional over-achiever.

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