Not so long ago on here I mentioned I was getting a spare PS1000 sub along
with other items. IIRC someone on here offered to buy the sub off me if I
decided to sell it, well I'm now seriously thinking about it as I really
don't need 2 of them (I think my house would collapse). I hoping for £150+
but open to offers. Please bear in mind i'm based in Eltham, S.E. London &
any delivery costs will be extra. Might have a Marantz SR4200 & Eltax
Speaker package for sale soon to, if interested let me know.
All the very best.
Mikedmc.
it was tony (witters) :-)
i'd go for it myself, if i dodn't already have one
Buy a SVS :-D Great subs. btw just moved the SVS to a corner (away from the
bed) and sounds MUCH better..can use it for the music system now- alot
better than the Rel with the leaky mid/treble :-)
"Used to own: Paradigm PS1000
SVS acquired: 16-46PCi (I actually won the non-powered version in a contest
on this very site, and kicked in a few bucks of my own to upgrade to the
powered version).
Needless to say, it was a great day when I got the e-mail stating that I'd
won the sub. I got the PS1000 on the advice of the shop before I knew any
better. It's a decent sub for movies, but music is very important to me and
I was really growing tired of the boominess of the bandpass design. The step
up to the SVS was most welcome: cleaner and faster bass with lower
extension."
and
http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htforum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=176964&highlight=ps1000
Eh? I own the PC Plus.. not the PCi.
The comments within the quotation makes are from someone else on HTM..
Oh just fuck off you cunting moron.
As Homer would say..
"Jealous"
> As Homer would say..
>
> "Jealous"
>
>
As Marge would say 'fuck off you stupid fat yellow cunt'
No problem.
Shame he didn't win a PB2 Ultra! ;-)
That's your problem...buy something that's been awarded 5 stars..for example
a Rel Q150E. It's a much better subwoofer ;-)
> If you were old enough, you would be the type of person whom would
> advertise the brand of stereo in their car with a two foot high logo
> in the rear window, or worse still have the whole car sprayed with the
> trademarks and name of the brand.
Nope. Boy racers are sad.
> Why dont you fit a nice tight little latex stoma into a port of the
> SVS, you will be able to take her to bed every night, and try to work
> out your retrograde ejaculation problems.
yawn.
> Just as i am bored for the minute i did a search on google groups.
>
> Nath + SVS = 329
> Nath + SVS + Wanker = 3
> Nath + SVS + Cunt = 5
> Nath + SVS + Fuck = 48
Good for you.
YOU ARE THE MOST RETARDED FUCKING ANAL STRETCH KNOWN TO GIBBONHOOD.
Ok thank you, hopefully Tony (Witters) will be along shortly as I don't
think anyone else in this thread mentioned being interested in the PS1000,
apparently the SVS thingy is supposed to be quite good though - Shame I
haven't got one of them to sell!!!
All the best.
Mikedmc.
sub.. in corner... for music... omg...
Go get your ears tested.
It's worth Ł150. I sold one for that recently, and could've sold it several
times over.
Andy
That's good to hear (read), although it looks like I might be hanging onto
it judging by this thread so far :). To be honest, i'm not even that
bothered. If someone wanted it then I would have sold it but I have to much
going on in my life at the moment to worry about selling it :).
Thank you for your reply.
All the best.
Mikedmc.
i'd have thought she'd have said, 'get your dick out of that subwoofer, you
stupid fat yellow cunt'
;-)
mike's trying to sell a sub here, you moron
save your SVS crap for a newsgroup that cares.
the sub was next to the bed?!
why was that, then?
Small room, with not much space to locate stuff. Since I've got rid of the
CRT RP that means more floorspace (width ways), therefore can place the
subwoofer in a better location.
Geez have to spell everything out for ya.
Uk.media.home-cinema.quality-gear?
>> save your SVS crap for a newsgroup that cares.
>
> Uk.media.home-cinema.quality-gear?
Nope. Try alt.planet-nath.zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Tramp, buy a bigger house then. Easy if you stop buying overpriced cockrot
gear you bilge pump
>
> Geez have to spell everything out for ya.
>
>
go fuck a dog.
nope, but it looks like *I* do!
*WHOOOOSH*
perhaps you should just move it _onto_ the bed?
I can't help if you have a delusional mind.
ah the typical response.. how predictable.
It's not at 100% doofus. Not even 1/4.
What would you prefer- Rel Quake in a 30ft x 30ft room that doesn't have a
slightest chance of filling the room with adequate levels or low frequency,
or monster sub in a small room running at 20% of it's capacity?
Any fool knows it better to have overkill than having something not able to
do it's job. If my Rel Storm couldn't meet my expectations for AV - what do
you expect me to buy and replace it with? Mate's Q-100E is a inferior sub to
the Storm too. I guess a high-end sealed sub would be suitable, but IMO
you're looking at Velodye HGS 12 or similar- they're about £2k?
One mans "suitable" sub is another mans "inadequate" sub, and who's to say
one sub is appropriate for the job for other people/room/systems? You? Me?
Nope. That's why I left it off, and it was a EXAMPLE for underkill &
overkill. You might recommend your PDR-10 to a "bass head", but would find
it unsuitable as he wants it to output high SPL clean bass (say ~110dB) but
for you it's fine.
The Rel Q100 & Rel Storm could fill my room with sub 30hz bass, but not
CLEAN BASS. Especially the Rel 100- try Whiskey Output on Starship Troopers
and hear the horrible noise eminating from the driver; basically distortion.
Titan AE and TS2 intro on the Rel. Again depth isn't a problem- clean bass
is (at my requested SPL) if I was happy with the sub I wouldn't have bought
the SVS. Think about that.
BTW, I don't listen to my sound that loud- but when I do watch a film I
don't want something of inadeqaute quality ruining the sound (ie amp not
driving the 4Ohm centre adequately causing distortion/clipping, subwoofer
causing audible port noise etc) And yes I've used items that cause problems-
Yamaha 590/E492 AV amp was not suitable to drive the Kef, Rel Storm port
noise with a few films.
A decent AV amp in my room for the previous speakers would do; probably HK
7200- but decided on poweramps instead. Current speakers need separates. My
choice, and I know it sounds better because of that. Gonna tell me it
doesn't?
Hardly any dealers have a wide range of sub manufactures in stock (or from
the whole range)- most of the better shops are in London. So would have to
drive down, and hear the subs in another room. And pay retail. So basically
paying RRP for something really (unheard) as it'll sound different in my
room. If I drive down again to return it- the cost of transport would make
it unworthwhile (2 trips) Local dealer only has one high-end subwoofer and
that's well over my budget (£2100), and he's got various lesser ones- so not
getting a good idea of subs just from that eh?
The Storm could output 30hz (and below) but most was not clean bass for the
films I've stated cause problems. My Yamaha 40W that I bought cheaply off AV
Forums could output 30hz too- but boomy as well, and overall pretty rubbish.
Rel alot better.
I am very happy with my SVS. Please give some examples of subwoofers that
are no more than £800 that have clean bass @20hz and ability to do high
output at that, "musical" sound with a similar area of floorspace (16.5"
diameter) HSU tube subs take less space up, and is of similar quality.
Another net direct company.
> >Any fool knows it better to have overkill than having something not able
to
> >do it's job. If my Rel Storm couldn't meet my expectations for AV - what
do
> >you expect me to buy and replace it with? Mate's Q-100E is a inferior sub
to
> >the Storm too. I guess a high-end sealed sub would be suitable, but IMO
> >you're looking at Velodye HGS 12 or similar- they're about £2k?
>
> Any fool knows that a room such as yours is going to make any system
> sound shite[1]
Sounds great. Better than a Sony DAV S500 system in a large converted loft-
he thinks the "sub" parping away is clean bass, and the sats sound dire. One
of them Panasonic HTIB systems couldn't fill a (nice sound) in small room.
My system sounds alot better than my local dealer's place- his sounds too
soft whatever kit he uses- lacks slam. And the M&K subwoofer is inadequate
for the room. He was also concerned of the same films...in fact he brought
the subject up before I said anything, went something like this..
"Do you have problems with Toy Story 2 introduction on the Rel; it doesn't
sound very good on the M&K"
"Yup, gonna buy a new sub, not sure what yet...hmm thought the M&K was
great?"
> compared to a larger room that doesn't have a bed in it,
> so why waste money?
Wasting money would be buying Kimber.
It's my hobby, I can buy what I like. If you wish to dismiss my system- IMO
your AV amp is unsuitable for your HT systems, as I've owned budget ranged
Yamaha's in the past. Do I keep on harping on about it? No. Yet you have the
audacity of dissing the SVS when you've never heard one.
Tell you what, buy one..then compare it against the Paradigm. (20-39 PC
Plus) Then I'll pay attention to what you're saying. If you don't like it, I
will buy it off you :-)
>Unless of course your main intention is to try and
> impress[2].
Impress me with great sound.. then yes.
> [1] My stereo gear was originally in a 28ft x 12ft room and sounded
> superb, it is now in a 9ft x 12ft and is in dire need of changing.
Fair enough, if you want to change gear that's up to you.
> [2] something you are failing spectacularly at.
You really are sad. Why can't you just enjoy what you have instead of trying
to put down my hobby and what I own?
> There are plenty of stores in driving distance from you. You do have a
> car don't you?
He sure has, a Tri-Ang pedal car!
LOL
Nige
Some of you lot try and gag me when I say anything about good/low quality
kit- you have no experience with high quality subs. That is why I
think you're a pillock, and basically trolling. Come back when you've owned
something of quality, as well as low-fi, and not dismiss other people's
opinion's because THEY owned good quality kit. They're the ones in the
situation to give advice on what they feel is better- not you. For instance
my dislike of a Kef Egg for centre compared to the Model 100.. it costs
triple the price but it's worth saving up for.. Same for the Rel Quake -
poor performing sub that's not worth bothering about... really can do better
(and worthwhile)
You bought it unheard. So it's exactly the same as me buying the SVS
unheard. Cost has nothing to do with it-quite a few people have
bought Lexicon MC-12's, full speaker setup unheard. It could mean they know
squat about the kit, or maybe not (know what they want)..or if they're
loaded then £30,000 system is not worth spending their time getting
demonstrations.
> So what is your "requested SPL" then?
Well I've calibrated my system to 85dB to all, however since it's a THX unit
I would have to double check what the processor calibration tones are
outputting to, compared to normal units where the speakers are set to 75dB.
Normally listen to -20dB for DVD's
>You keep referring to reference
> levels all the time, but you never actually say what your average
> listening level is.
Yes I have. See the thread when I'm argueing with Patrick regarding the
Rel. He's asked several times what level I listen to, and replied back
several times -20dB.
> Given the size of your room and the fact it is a
> bedroom I'd guess it isn't as loud as you would like us to believe.
-20 below reference, although some DVD's are much lower/louder- try Toy
Story 2- to get my normal level I think it's about -17dB. I would
guess set some other films to -25dB...
> You don't half waffle on don't you?
Giving my reasons..if I didn't give a good explanation you would ask for me
info... ie if just said Storm is "crap" Catch 22.
> Of course I'm not, I don't know what it sounds like. I do know that in
> theory your room would not allow the gear to sound at its best.
I do not know if different systems would sound great in my room. Unless I
take everything out and try various speaker/amp systems. I don't think the
vast majority of people's rooms are ideal either- unless you're willing to
build a room from scratch. Perhaps I might feel your system is "bad"- who's
to say?
>To me
> that is a waste of money.
OK I'll just spend it on booze and drugs instead. I see Tony constantly
changing kit a waste of time & money.
> There are plenty of stores in driving distance from you.
Maybe stores around, but don't stock the whole range. What's the point of
listening to M&K at one store, Velodyne in another, Rel in another? Velodyne
dealer might not have the DD range- only the CHT. So waste of time if I'm
interested in the DD range.
> And your reference for understanding what clean bass sounds like is...?
Comparing several subwoofers, from crappy to the best performing one I've
heard/owned. My ears and the feeling
of sub bass. The 100E distorts and runs out of cone movement easily- so I
know what it sounds like. Storm doesn't do it as much (needs to be pushed
harder, or with them films) and I know what port noise/chuffing sounds like
because the Rel does it when pushed and the SVS doesn't. The same could be
said for crap centres, good centres, great centres as I've owned a couple
and had access to others.
Unless I have the chance to listen to the "ultimate" subwoofer I do not know
what "perfect" bass sounds like... I can say on a sliding scale from worst
to best on the subs I owned/used..
Yamaha....Q100...Storm...SVS.....next sub? ;-)
And likewise what is your reference for knowing your system (and subwoofer)
sounds great?
> I rather doubt that in a room the size of yours you could even hear
> clean 20hz sounds. The majority of it would be next door and what little
> was left would be absorbed by your bed.
I am getting really low stuff- 20hz tone makes my ears feel funny ;-) 20hz
from Rel & SVS are being
outputted..and if LF is being absorbed then the extra headroom from a
monster subwoofer would be good no? I do get LF down to ~16hz. The Darla
scene sounds fab (that's around 30hz, but loud) - that sounded anaemic on
the Rel.
How are you getting 20hz (and below?)
> One of the main arts in choosing and purchasing hifi and/or HT is to
> choose gear that sounds right and is appropriate for the room in which
> they are housed.
And how do I know your system is matched?
> The M&K is a great sub when used in an appropriate room.
Might be great sub, but overpriced in the UK IMO. The M&K dealer does
think my subwoofer is a far superior- and it costs 3x less. He would stock
them if they got CE approval and a UK distributor.
> Now that I wouldn't argue with, but you've done the equivalent.
You've bought Naim ;-)
> Audacity? When have I ever actually "dissed" the SVS?
hmm
..
> regardless of the price range
Exactly. Outperforms a £900 & a £2100 sub.
> you storm in
> with how good your fucking SVS is.
And it is.
> Learn to keep it in your pants!
whatever.
> Are you fucking stupid or what? I wouldn't buy an SVS regardless of how
> good it is.
That makes sense since you haven't heard one going.
>It is inappropriate for my room. Simple as that. I would
> never lay out that sort of money for an unheard piece of equipment.
> Simple as that.
How do you know it's inappropriate? (apart from looks/size) Have you used
one?
> I honestly don't think you would know what a decent sound was if you
> hadn't seen the specs first.
Sounds great.
> >Fair enough, if you want to change gear that's up to you.
>
> Whoosh ->
Is that the sound of money leaving your wallet because you don't know what
you're looking for in a audio system (ie Tony)
> You dumb fuck, you still don't get it do you?
I get it you're a Audiophile. That means you're a tosspot.
I'm still wiping the tears of irony away!
Fucking class Kurt!
Nige
If I was interested in brand names I would buy a Bose system.
Strange I have not.
roffle :-)
>
> roffle :-)
>
>
Fuck me Kez, trim it next time or I'll make you go the to JFK2 for a beer.
Nige
heh. sorry. i realised after i'd posted, that it was in great need of
snippage