My annual France report
Patrick Navin
France...
sub 60 euro players in most superstores
dvds still pricier in store than online
DTS now a "standard feature" of the majority of mainstream releases
specialist DiVx magazines on most newsagent shelves (this one surprised
me)
Oh and the French still make english food look like dogshit ;-)
Patrick
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Okilee Dokilee
"Patrick Navin" <mingemagne...@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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> Back from one of my regular trips to the inlaws - latest DVD news from
> France...
>
> sub 60 euro players in most superstores
> dvds still pricier in store than online
> DTS now a "standard feature" of the majority of mainstream releases
> specialist DiVx magazines on most newsagent shelves (this one surprised
> me)
>
> Oh and the French still make english food look like dogshit ;-)
Superb! If only their international relations were of such a high quality.
And if they weren't so anti-British when it comes to Europe.
Patrick Navin
In France, Britain is a subject rarely discussed. In fact in all the
time I've spent there, I've never seen anything like the energy, paper
and ink spent on berating the French by British papers, used in a
reciprocal fashion. Its funny, I took 2 people, who held the same
preconceived ideas about France as you seem to, with me this time and
they came back with a totally different view of the French people.
Perhaps you ought to go before labelling an entire nation. After all is
Tony Blair representative of YOU?
Des O'Donoghue
> Back from one of my regular trips to the inlaws - latest DVD news from
> France...
>
> sub 60 euro players in most superstores
Do they look any good ? Any idea of brand/model ? Heading over there soon so
my curiosity is piqued..
Nath
What a sad man! ;-)
Patrick Navin
> Say anything bad about the French and your GF beats you up?
Well Nath - as a guy who doubtless pays to have women beat him up I can
see why you'd be jealous! ;-)
>
> What a sad man! ;-)
Hmm - I don't feel sad, must just be you! ;-)
P.
Patrick Navin
cheap chinese tat as far as I could see - a variety of forgettable brand
names - most of whihc boasted VCD, SACD, DVD-R, MP3, MPEG1, blah blah
blah
Okilee Dokilee
> > quality. And if they weren't so anti-British when it comes to Europe.
> >
>
> In France, Britain is a subject rarely discussed. In fact in all the
> time I've spent there, I've never seen anything like the energy, paper
> and ink spent on berating the French by British papers, used in a
> reciprocal fashion. Its funny, I took 2 people, who held the same
> preconceived ideas about France as you seem to, with me this time and
> they came back with a totally different view of the French people.
> Perhaps you ought to go before labelling an entire nation. After all is
> Tony Blair representative of YOU?
> ;-)
>
Did I say anything bad about the French people? I have nothing against
French people, only their politicians and their dealings on the
International stage.
Andy
> Did I say anything bad about the French people? I have nothing against
> French people, only their politicians and their dealings on the
> International stage.
So nothing related to dvd then?
I know from bitter experience how nasty things can get once you start
getting political. UMD is no place for talk about French politicians
anyway - Post your waffle to alt.onion.chompers if you have to post it
somewhere. ;-)
Andy
Stephen (aka steford)
"Okilee Dokilee" <dereka...@UNSIGHTLYZITFROMURFACE.hot male.com> wrote
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say is one excellent aspect of French politics. Wish Blair had the balls to
say "non".
StainlessSteelRat
> Oh and the French still make english food look like dogshit ;-)
Strange, I always thought that about French food :-)
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Des O'Donoghue
> The other day in <batm6h$3l45p$1...@ID-62314.news.dfncis.de> some fecker
> calling himself Des O'Donoghue embarassed himself and wrote:
> > Patrick Navin wrote:
> >> Back from one of my regular trips to the inlaws - latest DVD news
> >> from France...
> >>
> >> sub 60 euro players in most superstores
> >
> > Do they look any good ? Any idea of brand/model ? Heading over there
> > soon so my curiosity is piqued..
> >
> >
>
> cheap chinese tat as far as I could see - a variety of forgettable brand
> names - most of whihc boasted VCD, SACD, DVD-R, MP3, MPEG1, blah blah
> blah
>
Ok.. thanks..sometimes I get carried away dans les hypermarchés...
ice
> Back from one of my regular trips to the inlaws - latest DVD news from
> France...
well Patrick,.... that was really useful and so informative.
do you recognise sarcasm ???
ice
"StainlessSteelRat" <use...@stainlesssteelrat.net> wrote in message
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> Patrick Navin wrote:
> > Oh and the French still make english food look like dogshit ;-)
>
> Strange, I always thought that about French food :-)
wrong there mateypeepes. decent food there just not enough of it. go to
Belgium instead... decent food and lots of it for less money.
StainlessSteelRat
>>> Oh and the French still make english food look like dogshit ;-)
>>
>> Strange, I always thought that about French food :-)
>
> wrong there mateypeepes. decent food there just not enough of it. go
> to Belgium instead... decent food and lots of it for less money.
I honestly can't remember any decent food there. It's either strange, or
minimal. Belgian food I don't know either. Italian and Chinese food, now
we're talking!
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HappyHunter
<use...@stainlesssteelrat.net> wrote:
>ice wrote:
>>>> Oh and the French still make english food look like dogshit ;-)
>>>
>>> Strange, I always thought that about French food :-)
>>
>> wrong there mateypeepes. decent food there just not enough of it. go
>> to Belgium instead... decent food and lots of it for less money.
>
>I honestly can't remember any decent food there. It's either strange, or
>minimal. Belgian food I don't know either. Italian and Chinese food, now
>we're talking!
I remember virtually everything I ate there other than the bread and
jam tasted absolutely awful - either rubbery, tough or reeking of
garlic (and I don't mind a bit of garlic). Mind you that's only
Paris, and I find it hard to believe that the French reputation for
good food is entirely BS - but who knows. I wouldn't be surprised if
the provinces are a lot better. - however, I challenge anyone to go
into pretty much any restaurant in Paris, order a steak, and then say
they enjoyed it!
I think there's a lot of BS about it though, cos like the man said
before, it doesn't come close to comparing to Italian cooking (I've
yet to taste anything less than delicious from an Italian eatery in
Italy!)
Patrick Navin
at least it was on topic
P.
Patrick Navin
>
nowt wrong with the portions in the Correze matey - or the prices. Haute
Cuisine foe 15 euro a head - can you get that in Belgium?
Patrick Navin
> On Tue, 27 May 2003 07:23:38 +0000 (UTC), "StainlessSteelRat"
> <use...@stainlesssteelrat.net> wrote:
>
>>ice wrote:
>>>>> Oh and the French still make english food look like dogshit ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Strange, I always thought that about French food :-)
>>>
>>> wrong there mateypeepes. decent food there just not enough of it. go
>>> to Belgium instead... decent food and lots of it for less money.
>>
>>I honestly can't remember any decent food there. It's either strange,
>>or minimal. Belgian food I don't know either. Italian and Chinese food,
>>now we're talking!
>
> I remember virtually everything I ate there other than the bread and
> jam tasted absolutely awful - either rubbery, tough or reeking of
> garlic (and I don't mind a bit of garlic). Mind you that's only
> Paris, and I find it hard to believe that the French reputation for
> good food is entirely BS - but who knows. I wouldn't be surprised if
> the provinces are a lot better.
Food in the country is generally much better, cheaper and in bigger
proportions than the tourist traps of Paris. In fact Paris isn't
particularly representative of France as a whole but good food can still
be found there if you're prepared to look for it and to stray of the
tourist route.
> - however, I challenge anyone to go
> into pretty much any restaurant in Paris, order a steak, and then say
> they enjoyed it!
Depends whether you like the taste of meat or carbon. I've yet to meet a
decent French chef (or French trained chef) who doesn't know how to cook
meat. Most UK restaurants simply char the meat till it's unrecognisable.
You need to ASK for what you want in France - maybe it's the English
habit of not being prepared to use the language that results in
experiences such as yours?
>
> I think there's a lot of BS about it though, cos like the man said
> before, it doesn't come close to comparing to Italian cooking (I've
> yet to taste anything less than delicious from an Italian eatery in
> Italy!)
Different food, different styles. I've had inedible crap in every
country I've visited (including Italy) and wonderful meals in the most
unlikely of places. You can't compare a good Bolognaise to Confit de
Canard, they are simply different - I love both but then I'm a gourmand!
Patrick Navin
> ice wrote:
>>>> Oh and the French still make english food look like dogshit ;-)
>>>
>>> Strange, I always thought that about French food :-)
>>
>> wrong there mateypeepes. decent food there just not enough of it. go
>> to Belgium instead... decent food and lots of it for less money.
>
> I honestly can't remember any decent food there. It's either strange,
> or minimal.
If you never had decent food in France then you either A: weren't there
long enough or B: have a palate so destroyed by bland Beefeater shite
that you can no longer taste anything more than a stale onion ring. ;-)
>Belgian food I don't know either. Italian and Chinese food,
> now we're talking!
I love both - though what passes for Chinese food in the UK is a far cry
from the real thing (too much MSG and hydrogenated fats). I was taught
to cook Italian by a very old Tuscany grandma - you can't beat olive oil,
tomatoes, basil and oregano as the basis for a tasty meal (except
perhaps Confit de Canard!)
StainlessSteelRat
>>>>> Oh and the French still make english food look like dogshit ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Strange, I always thought that about French food :-)
>>>
>>> wrong there mateypeepes. decent food there just not enough of it. go
>>> to Belgium instead... decent food and lots of it for less money.
>>
>> I honestly can't remember any decent food there. It's either strange,
>> or minimal.
>
> If you never had decent food in France then you either A: weren't
> there long enough or B: have a palate so destroyed by bland Beefeater
> shite that you can no longer taste anything more than a stale onion
> ring. ;-)
I've never been to Paris, I was in the South of the France, but it was a
loooooong time ago.
I'm sure they are a poor second, but French restaurants in the UK don't
really offer anything that I would consider overtly French. It just seems to
be what I would consider normal main courses e.g. steak, unless this has all
come from France. What would you consider to be famous French food, other
than snails and frog legs?
>> Belgian food I don't know either. Italian and Chinese food,
>> now we're talking!
>
> I love both - though what passes for Chinese food in the UK is a far
> cry from the real thing (too much MSG and hydrogenated fats). I was
> taught to cook Italian by a very old Tuscany grandma - you can't beat
> olive oil, tomatoes, basil and oregano as the basis for a tasty meal
> (except perhaps Confit de Canard!)
The best Chinese I ever had was in New York :-) (I've never been to China).
There are some good restaurants in the UK, it's just a case of finding them,
like with all these things.
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Patrick Navin
>>>>>> Oh and the French still make english food look like dogshit ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Strange, I always thought that about French food :-)
>>>>
>>>> wrong there mateypeepes. decent food there just not enough of it.
>>>> go to Belgium instead... decent food and lots of it for less money.
>>>
>>> I honestly can't remember any decent food there. It's either strange,
>>> or minimal.
>>
>> If you never had decent food in France then you either A: weren't
>> there long enough or B: have a palate so destroyed by bland Beefeater
>> shite that you can no longer taste anything more than a stale onion
>> ring. ;-)
>
> I've never been to Paris, I was in the South of the France, but it was
> a loooooong time ago.
>
> I'm sure they are a poor second, but French restaurants in the UK
> don't really offer anything that I would consider overtly French. It
> just seems to be what I would consider normal main courses e.g. steak,
> unless this has all come from France. What would you consider to be
> famous French food, other than snails and frog legs?
snails and frogs legs aren't even all that French. The Spanish brought
snails to France and frogs legs are a Romany dish that seems to have
become associated with France.
My personal faves are Confit de Canard (pressed duckmeat), foie gras (
goose liver), cepes (big mushrooms from the south), geziers (duck
gizzards), noix de veaux (noisette of veal), clafoutis (cherry tart),
flan patissiere (a custardy dessert), tortueax (a heavy wholemeal
pancake from Cantal), most cheeses including Roquefort, Cantal and goats
cheeses, saucisson sec de sangliers (wild boar sausage), steake de
cheval (horse), saucisson rosette (made from pork and donkey meat)....
damn why did I come back ;-)
Good places to get this kind of thing are the Correze, Auvergne, Cantal,
Dordogne and the Lot. Most restaurants will do a 20 Euro menu consisting
of at least 2 of these with a dessert, cheese board, coffee and bread. I
don't know of anywhere in the UK with comparable quality at that price.
French restaurants in the UK often seem to be owned by English people
whose idea of French cuisine is as a way of making big money for little
effort from people who don't know any better - just my observation
>
>>> Belgian food I don't know either. Italian and Chinese food,
>>> now we're talking!
>>
>> I love both - though what passes for Chinese food in the UK is a far
>> cry from the real thing (too much MSG and hydrogenated fats). I was
>> taught to cook Italian by a very old Tuscany grandma - you can't beat
>> olive oil, tomatoes, basil and oregano as the basis for a tasty meal
>> (except perhaps Confit de Canard!)
>
> The best Chinese I ever had was in New York :-) (I've never been to
> China). There are some good restaurants in the UK, it's just a case of
> finding them, like with all these things.
Chinese in New York is extremely good. The best place to eat chinese
food is in fact Taiwan (more particularly the thousands of restaurants
in Taipei) where you can have the food cooked a few feet from your table,
super fresh, often choosing the cut of meat you would want prior to
cooking
Steven Allan
> On Tue, 27 May 2003 07:23:38 +0000 (UTC), "StainlessSteelRat"
> <use...@stainlesssteelrat.net> wrote:
>
>> ice wrote:
>>>>> Oh and the French still make english food look like dogshit ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Strange, I always thought that about French food :-)
>>>
>>> wrong there mateypeepes. decent food there just not enough of it. go
>>> to Belgium instead... decent food and lots of it for less money.
>>
>> I honestly can't remember any decent food there. It's either strange, or
>> minimal. Belgian food I don't know either. Italian and Chinese food, now
>> we're talking!
>
> I remember virtually everything I ate there other than the bread and
> jam tasted absolutely awful - either rubbery, tough or reeking of
> garlic (and I don't mind a bit of garlic). Mind you that's only
> Paris, and I find it hard to believe that the French reputation for
> good food is entirely BS - but who knows. I wouldn't be surprised if
> the provinces are a lot better. - however, I challenge anyone to go
> into pretty much any restaurant in Paris, order a steak, and then say
> they enjoyed it!
I had a good steak once in France... at EuroDisney :-)
My wife lived in Paris for a few years and she kept banging on about how
good the food was there, now I know why she is so skinny!
Almost everything I had was horrible, with the exception of a pretty decent
Chinese and those Mars Bars with the Almonds in :-)
What's all the fuss about Fondu anyways, it's horrible stuff!
Patrick Navin
), tortueax (a heavy wholemeal
> pancake from Cantal),
oops my g/f just told me off - this should be tourtous - made with egg,
flour and potatoes (grated). the wholemeal pancake is called bouriol.
StainlessSteelRat
<snip>
Thanks for the info. The Confit, Cepes, desserts, and Saucisson sound
interesting. I was never a fan of cheese, livers, or gizzards :-)
>> The best Chinese I ever had was in New York :-) (I've never been to
>> China). There are some good restaurants in the UK, it's just a case
>> of finding them, like with all these things.
>
> Chinese in New York is extremely good. The best place to eat chinese
> food is in fact Taiwan (more particularly the thousands of restaurants
> in Taipei) where you can have the food cooked a few feet from your
> table, super fresh, often choosing the cut of meat you would want
> prior to cooking
Nice! I've never been to Taiwan either unfortunately :-)
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-- Otto von Bismarck
ice
I've eaten Chinese in China, Hong Kong, USA, UK and Europe. The best was in
Hitchin, its called the Mandarin Gourmet.
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ice
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>
>
> I've eaten Chinese in China, Hong Kong, USA, UK and Europe. The best was
in
> Hitchin, its called the Mandarin Gourmet.
>
sorry for top post :)
Damon
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> I've eaten Chinese in China, Hong Kong, USA, UK and Europe. The best
> was in Hitchin, its called the Mandarin Gourmet.
I have had Chinese in HK and China...disgusting and quite bland, much
prefer the westerised dishes they give us here.
D
Trenchcoat umd...aka...dins
> Patrick Navin wrote:
> > Oh and the French still make english food look like dogshit ;-)
>
> Strange, I always thought that about French food :-)
>
No thats the Taiwanese.
dins
Major ChrisB
in
> Hitchin, its called the Mandarin Gourmet.
American chinease food is rubish in comparison to UK. I'd place a good
handful of cash on the fact that british chinease food is nicer than the
equivalent meal in China
StainlessSteelRat
>> I've eaten Chinese in China, Hong Kong, USA, UK and Europe. The best
>> was in Hitchin, its called the Mandarin Gourmet.
>
> American chinease food is rubish in comparison to UK. I'd place a
> good handful of cash on the fact that british chinease food is nicer
> than the equivalent meal in China
And you've eaten in every Chinese restaurant in America? Please think before
posting. For starters Chinese food in NY is world famous for being
excellent.
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Trapper~John
> The other day in <20030527094...@news.cis.dfn.de> some fecker
> calling himself Patrick Navin embarassed himself and wrote:
> ), tortueax (a heavy wholemeal
>> pancake from Cantal),
>
> oops my g/f just told me off - this should be tourtous - made with
> egg, flour and potatoes (grated). the wholemeal pancake is called
> bouriol.
>
> Patrick
Jesus Christ stop, you're making my mouth water. Nearest thing to a fancy
resteraunt i've ever eaten in is Mcdonalds, who seem to think that people
will eat any old shite, so that's what they do, they cook shit and sell it.
HappyHunter
<mingemagne...@btopenworld.com> wrote:
>You need to ASK for what you want in France - maybe it's the English
>habit of not being prepared to use the language that results in
>experiences such as yours?
>
I'll have to remember to expect Sh1te food in Italy if I don't speak
Italian, will I?
You crack me up!
HappyHunter
>>You need to ASK for what you want in France -
I thought about this a bit more - do you realise what you're
suggesting? that French chefs need specific instructions to be able
to cook a palatable meal? What, are they, all 'tards or something?
Kez
best food i've had abroad was a thai meal in turkey!
Trenchcoat umd...aka...dins
> Major ChrisB wrote:
> >> I've eaten Chinese in China, Hong Kong, USA, UK and Europe. The best
> >> was in Hitchin, its called the Mandarin Gourmet.
> >
> > American chinease food is rubish in comparison to UK. I'd place a
> > good handful of cash on the fact that british chinease food is nicer
> > than the equivalent meal in China
>
> And you've eaten in every Chinese restaurant in America? Please think
before
> posting. For starters Chinese food in NY is world famous for being
> excellent.
Best Indian meal I had was funnily enough in India. The paneer tika masla
was made with a wonderful palette of flavours and was not as hot as the shit
they serve here over here which burns away you tongue like the acid from
aliens.
dins
Major ChrisB
> Major ChrisB wrote:
> >> I've eaten Chinese in China, Hong Kong, USA, UK and Europe. The best
> >> was in Hitchin, its called the Mandarin Gourmet.
> >
> > American chinease food is rubish in comparison to UK. I'd place a
> > good handful of cash on the fact that british chinease food is nicer
> > than the equivalent meal in China
>
> And you've eaten in every Chinese restaurant in America? Please think
before
> posting. For starters Chinese food in NY is world famous for being
> excellent.
I've eaten in three chinease restraunts and they were all very poor in
comparison to the british equivalents....
I did have a nice meal once in a chinease but it was Teriaki which is not a
chinese dish
Patrick Navin
funny thing is Mc Donalds is taking hold in France - despite good food
being cheap and plentiful, marketing crap as food still holds some sway
Patrick Navin
the only tard here is you. French cooking is not binary as you seem to
think cooking should be( RAW=0 COOKED=1?). There are many many ways to
cook steak (and any other meat) and it helps to know exactly what to ask
for in order to get what it is you personally like.
For instance - I like my steaks to barely see the pan, I like them
browned on either side and bloody in the middle. You might want 'em
cooked through, or perhaps just a little better done then I want 'em.
the french have wonderfully descriptive phrases to account for all the
different ways meat can be cooked - if you bother to learn them you'll
have more success - of course you could just fuck off to McDonalds where
it sounds like you'd be more at home (despite diluting the IQ pool even
further down) ;-)
Trapper~John
> The other day in <bavo52$80e$1...@sparta.btinternet.com> some fecker
> calling himself Trapper~John embarassed himself and wrote:
>> Patrick Navin wrote:
>>> The other day in <20030527094...@news.cis.dfn.de> some
>>> fecker calling himself Patrick Navin embarassed himself and wrote:
>>> ), tortueax (a heavy wholemeal
>>>> pancake from Cantal),
>>>
>>> oops my g/f just told me off - this should be tourtous - made with
>>> egg, flour and potatoes (grated). the wholemeal pancake is called
>>> bouriol.
>>>
>>> Patrick
>>
>> Jesus Christ stop, you're making my mouth water. Nearest thing to a
>> fancy resteraunt i've ever eaten in is Mcdonalds, who seem to think
>> that people will eat any old shite, so that's what they do, they cook
>> shit and sell it.
>>
>>
>
> funny thing is Mc Donalds is taking hold in France - despite good food
> being cheap and plentiful, marketing crap as food still holds some
> sway
>
> Patrick
That's the problem, everywhere seemes to be becoming very "Americanised"
leaving little of the original culture left.
Trapper~John
Best food i've had abroad was on the airplane! When I went to Tenerife I
expected to try some local dishes (WTF is a local dish in Tenerife btw?) all
I had for a fortnight was fish and chips, staek and kidney pie and chips and
egg and chips. I might as well have stayed at home.
HappyHunter
<mingemagne...@btopenworld.com> wrote:
You're such a charmer! You crack me up! I love the way you can take
my simple question and turn it into a personal attack about my
personal tastes and intelligence with no knowledge whatsoever! You do
realise you speak volumes about yourself and nothing truly about me,
don't you?
So to get this right -- next time I go to a foreign land where I can't
speak the lingo, where I can't precisely describe how I want my food
cooked in the native tongue, I should expect the food to taste like
dogshit, should I?
I accept your premise that I was suggesting food can be binary, and I
agree given certain limits - food CAN be binary (Tastes shit=0,
doesn't taste shit=1).
People can be binary too (not a complete twat=0, a complete twat=1).
We all fall into this state.
You for example must be either a zero or a complete twat.
Are you keeping up here?
Trapper~John
> The other day in <bavo52$80e$1...@sparta.btinternet.com> some fecker
> calling himself Trapper~John embarassed himself and wrote:
>> Patrick Navin wrote:
>>> The other day in <20030527094...@news.cis.dfn.de> some
>>> fecker calling himself Patrick Navin embarassed himself and wrote:
>>> ), tortueax (a heavy wholemeal
>>>> pancake from Cantal),
>>>
>>> oops my g/f just told me off - this should be tourtous - made with
>>> egg, flour and potatoes (grated). the wholemeal pancake is called
>>> bouriol.
>>>
>>> Patrick
>>
>> Jesus Christ stop, you're making my mouth water. Nearest thing to a
>> fancy resteraunt i've ever eaten in is Mcdonalds, who seem to think
>> that people will eat any old shite, so that's what they do, they cook
>> shit and sell it.
>>
>>
>
> funny thing is Mc Donalds is taking hold in France - despite good food
> being cheap and plentiful, marketing crap as food still holds some
> sway
>
> Patrick
I often wonder why I can't find any traditional Welsh dishes anymore, then I
remember that leek soup is as boring as fuck ;-)
Patrick Navin
unlike the charmer who referred to all french chefs as tards and is too
stupid to realise when he's made an ignorant c*nt of himself by missing
the smiley !
>
>
> So to get this right -- next time I go to a foreign land where I can't
> speak the lingo, where I can't precisely describe how I want my food
> cooked in the native tongue, I should expect the food to taste like
> dogshit, should I?
Personally the next time you go to a foreign land I couldn't care
whether you fall down a manhole and have to subsist on a diet of beetles
and worms for 2 weeks ;-)
>
> I accept your premise that I was suggesting food can be binary, and I
> agree given certain limits - food CAN be binary (Tastes shit=0,
> doesn't taste shit=1).
>
> People can be binary too (not a complete twat=0, a complete twat=1).
> We all fall into this state.
>
> You for example must be either a zero or a complete twat.
and you my dear chap are "un petit con"
Steven Allan
wrote:
Some of the best food I have ever eaten was while I was in New Orleans.
I love that place, if I ever win the lottery that's where I'm off too!
StainlessSteelRat
>>> best food i've had abroad was a thai meal in turkey!
>>
>> Best food i've had abroad was on the airplane! When I went to
>> Tenerife I expected to try some local dishes (WTF is a local dish in
>> Tenerife btw?) all I had for a fortnight was fish and chips, staek
>> and kidney pie and chips and egg and chips. I might as well have
>> stayed at home.
>
> Some of the best food I have ever eaten was while I was in New
> Orleans.
>
> I love that place, if I ever win the lottery that's where I'm off too!
Isn't that all cajun chicken and spicy gumbo? :-)
New Orleans is one place I'd love to visit.
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Steven Allan
> Steven Allan wrote:
>>>> best food i've had abroad was a thai meal in turkey!
>>>
>>> Best food i've had abroad was on the airplane! When I went to
>>> Tenerife I expected to try some local dishes (WTF is a local dish in
>>> Tenerife btw?) all I had for a fortnight was fish and chips, staek
>>> and kidney pie and chips and egg and chips. I might as well have
>>> stayed at home.
>>
>> Some of the best food I have ever eaten was while I was in New
>> Orleans.
>>
>> I love that place, if I ever win the lottery that's where I'm off too!
>
> Isn't that all cajun chicken and spicy gumbo? :-)
That's the one! Lots of incredible sea food to :-)
> New Orleans is one place I'd love to visit.
It's my favourite place... so far!
HappyHunter
>> my simple question and turn it into a personal attack about my
>> personal tastes and intelligence with no knowledge whatsoever! You do
>> realise you speak volumes about yourself and nothing truly about me,
>> don't you?
>
>unlike the charmer who referred to all french chefs as tards and is too
>stupid to realise when he's made an ignorant c*nt of himself by missing
>the smiley !
>
you suggested that they only cook a decent meal if instructed
correctly - and you either don't understand that (stupid) or choose
not to (self-deluded) but I thought the statement starting with 'so
do you realise what you're suggesting' would be enough for even the
most simple-minded cretin to comprehend - and don't give me that
smiley shit!
>>
>>
>> So to get this right -- next time I go to a foreign land where I can't
>> speak the lingo, where I can't precisely describe how I want my food
>> cooked in the native tongue, I should expect the food to taste like
>> dogshit, should I?
>
>Personally the next time you go to a foreign land I couldn't care
>whether you fall down a manhole and have to subsist on a diet of beetles
>and worms for 2 weeks ;-)
>
>>
>> I accept your premise that I was suggesting food can be binary, and I
>> agree given certain limits - food CAN be binary (Tastes shit=0,
>> doesn't taste shit=1).
>>
>> People can be binary too (not a complete twat=0, a complete twat=1).
>> We all fall into this state.
>>
>> You for example must be either a zero or a complete twat.
>
>and you my dear chap are "un petit con"
>
>Patrick
don't you dare call me that again until I've had a chance to look it
up!
Shall we call this one a draw. Oh, if you don't want to, you have one
more go, I don't mind. My treat.
Good game!
Mark Kelly
if you are actually seriously saying "chinese food in china" will be
worse than "chinese food in UK" I think you would actually lose that.
Like for example in Russia, Gulf etc. some of the things they use in
their dishes, you can't even get in UK. hence taste completely
different.
Mark Kelly
<steveSPAMA...@btopenworld.com> wrote:
>Best food i've had abroad was on the airplane! When I went to Tenerife I
>expected to try some local dishes (WTF is a local dish in Tenerife btw?) all
>I had for a fortnight was fish and chips, staek and kidney pie and chips and
>egg and chips. I might as well have stayed at home.
>
>
Spanish food would be more "local"
but that is the thing that drive me mad sometimes how ppl go aboard
and all they have is what they have at home. it is like "what is the
point." and like the person above is giving the impression, even if
you want to have "local food" you can't now cause they only sale
english food.
Andy
> - of course you could just fuck off to McDonalds
> where it sounds like you'd be more at home
It's funny you should write that, as my knowledge of French food is limited
to the McDonalds that's on the Auchan site at Calais. I had a McFarmer, and
to my way of thinking it was raw - Nothing like a good British McD's IMO. I
also went to the Buffalo Grill over the road, and that was awful... Still,
expecting that to be representative of French food is like expecting a
Little Chef to represent the finest British cuisine, so I don't suppose it
counts.
I agree that in the main British food is shite though. There are some good
restaurants, but there are way too many places like Brewsters and Brewers'
Fayre where you'll pay nine quid for a couple of microwaved potato skins and
a rubbery gammon steak.
Andy
Major ChrisB
> Steven Allan wrote:
> >>> best food i've had abroad was a thai meal in turkey!
> >>
> >> Best food i've had abroad was on the airplane! When I went to
> >> Tenerife I expected to try some local dishes (WTF is a local dish in
> >> Tenerife btw?) all I had for a fortnight was fish and chips, staek
> >> and kidney pie and chips and egg and chips. I might as well have
> >> stayed at home.
> >
> > Some of the best food I have ever eaten was while I was in New
> > Orleans.
> >
> > I love that place, if I ever win the lottery that's where I'm off too!
>
> Isn't that all cajun chicken and spicy gumbo? :-)
>
> New Orleans is one place I'd love to visit.
New Orleans is great but completly different than I imagined.
The bourbon street area is really dirty but all pubs and clubs and really
quite fun
I never got to see much of the historical sides or the graveyards coz i was
there when the trade center thing hit and the public attractions were all
closed. Still, it was fun and I'd love to go again. Loads of trip clubs
too.
If you get to go I recomend The Tropical Isle and it's Hand Grenade drink.
New Orleans is famous for The Hurricane but I found the Hand Grenade,
exclusive to the tropical isle, to be much more potent.
As for Cajun Chicken and Gumbo.....The Fried Chicken and Shrip combo meals
were always welcome but when I discovered the shrip gumbo I was
hooked....lovely grub....
Patrick Navin
True enough - though the quality of British food is as much to do with
the iron grip the supermarkets have on food pricing and availability as
it is about the basic lack of cooking expertise here. I'm not a great
one for protective policies, but when it comes to food the French have
always had it right. The producer is the most important part of the
chain, not the retailer
Trapper~John
> On 26 May 2003 17:36:56 GMT, Patrick Navin used
> <20030526183...@news.cis.dfn.de> to say...
>
>> Oh and the French still make english food look like dogshit ;-)
>
Ah yes, but it takes great skill to fuck up perfectly good food ;-)
Patrick Navin
indeed chaps I concur .. now where is that big tin of confit I brought
back....
P.
ice
> Some of the best food I have ever eaten was while I was in New Orleans.
>
> I love that place, if I ever win the lottery that's where I'm off too!
>
shrimp po-boy is excellent. gumbo too, crawfish pie .... etc etc :)
ice
>
> As for Cajun Chicken and Gumbo.....The Fried Chicken and Shrip combo meals
> were always welcome but when I discovered the shrip gumbo I was
> hooked....lovely grub....
>
>
yep great stuff. the Museum of the History of Art is excellent too.
Bardo
"Trapper~John" <steveSPAMA...@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
news:bb0cal$ksl$1...@hercules.btinternet.com...
Nothing like a sweeping biggotted generalisations, eh - a bit like saying
that all French people are tossers, really! ;-)
Chesney Christ
>> New Orleans is one place I'd love to visit.
>
>It's my favourite place... so far!
Apparently there is a house there.
--
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defense of this great nation." - George W. Bush (Jnr)
Trapper~John
Or that all Welsh people are sheepshaggers, incidently I've found that it's
better to take them to the edge of a cliff as they push back more ;-)
Andy
> Or that all Welsh people are sheepshaggers,
That's not fair on the Welsh... Some of 'em prefer goats. ;-)
Andy
Burny
>
>"ice" <co...@ice.com> wrote in message
>news:bavcjl$41io6$1...@ID-152511.news.dfncis.de...
>>
>>
>> I've eaten Chinese in China, Hong Kong, USA, UK and Europe. The best was
>in
>> Hitchin, its called the Mandarin Gourmet.
>
>
>American chinease food is rubish in comparison to UK. I'd place a good
>handful of cash on the fact that british chinease food is nicer than the
>equivalent meal in China
>
>
>
fantastic .
Remove my straightjacket to contact me
Burny
Burny
Welsh rarebit?
Steven Allan
> A certain Steven Allan, of uk.media.dvd "fame", writes :
>>> New Orleans is one place I'd love to visit.
>>
>> It's my favourite place... so far!
>
> Apparently there is a house there.
Is it called the Rising Sun?
Wuffles
Steven Allan <steven...@durham.ac.uk> typed:
Only "they" call it that.
ice
"Wuffles" <not...@donttryandusethis.please> wrote in message
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yeah, it was my ruin.
Trenchcoat umd...aka...dins
"Andy" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:bb0qqu$oip$1...@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Trapper~John wrote:
>
> > Or that all Welsh people are sheepshaggers,
>
> That's not fair on the Welsh... Some of 'em prefer goats. ;-)
>
No some of them shock horror actually prefer members of the opposite sex ;-)
dins
Andy
> No some of them shock horror actually prefer members of the opposite
> sex ;-)
Opposite sex sure, not necessarily the same species.
Andy
Trenchcoat umd...aka...dins
and not necessarily alive too or born in some cases...... getting into david
lynch territory now
dins
Patrick Navin
M.T.H. 3/10
Patrick
>
>
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>Back from one of my regular trips to the inlaws - latest DVD news from
>France...
>
>sub 60 euro players in most superstores
I'm going to be spending a couple of months in Paris before returning
to the UK, and would like to get a DVD player to use whilst I'm there.
Does anyone know if these cheap french players would be likely to play
region1 disks (or UK disks) properly on a french TV?
Also, if I brought the player back to the UK, would it work as a uk
bought DVD player would on my UK TV?
I've tried to work this out for myself, but the whole SECAM business
has completely confused me! :-)
thanks for any help!
Kouros
news:9c9c808740b2c593c5d9b2ed552d29f9@TeraNews:
> So to get this right -- next time I go to a foreign land where I can't
> speak the lingo, where I can't precisely describe how I want my food
> cooked in the native tongue, I should expect the food to taste like
> dogshit, should I?
Sorry - am I alone in thinking it's an obscene habit to go to any foreign
country without even trying to wrap your head around the lingo?
I'm going to France next month, and for the first time since I left school,
I'm trying to wrap my head around basic phrases like ordering food, asking
for directions etc.
As Patrick has implied - knowing a little of the language can help improve
your holiday no end - even if it's just something as fundamental as how you
like your steak done.
Kouros
news:20030527193...@news.cis.dfn.de:
>> I agree that in the main British food is shite though. There are some
>> good restaurants, but there are way too many places like Brewsters and
>> Brewers' Fayre where you'll pay nine quid for a couple of microwaved
>> potato skins and a rubbery gammon steak.
> True enough - though the quality of British food is as much to do with
> the iron grip the supermarkets have on food pricing and availability as
> it is about the basic lack of cooking expertise here. I'm not a great
> one for protective policies, but when it comes to food the French have
> always had it right. The producer is the most important part of the
> chain, not the retailer
On that note - it's interesting how home-cooked food always tastes that
much better when you use home-grown produce with it. I always find that
something as simple as herbs grown on a pot on the windowsill improves a
dish no end.
Odd that.
Kouros
news:BAF8E494.5F204%steven...@durham.ac.uk:
> What's all the fuss about Fondu anyways, it's horrible stuff!
Take that back! Fondues are food for the Gods! Especially a nice cheese
one! Yum!
Kouros
news:bavnok$iqs$1...@hercules.btinternet.com:
> Major ChrisB wrote:
>>> I've eaten Chinese in China, Hong Kong, USA, UK and Europe. The best
>>> was in Hitchin, its called the Mandarin Gourmet.
>>
>> American chinease food is rubish in comparison to UK. I'd place a
>> good handful of cash on the fact that british chinease food is nicer
>> than the equivalent meal in China
>
> And you've eaten in every Chinese restaurant in America? Please think
> before posting. For starters Chinese food in NY is world famous for
> being excellent.
I've eaten at the Chinese Restaurant on 5th Avenue that was regularly
featured in Seinfeld - I forget its name now, but I'm sure you know the
one.
It's the only USA Chinese Food I've experienced, and it was OK - nothing
particularly special, and not awful either, just OK. About the same as a
decent British Chinese restaurant really, I guess.
StainlessSteelRat
>>>> I've eaten Chinese in China, Hong Kong, USA, UK and Europe. The
>>>> best was in Hitchin, its called the Mandarin Gourmet.
>>>
>>> American chinease food is rubish in comparison to UK. I'd place a
>>> good handful of cash on the fact that british chinease food is nicer
>>> than the equivalent meal in China
>>
>> And you've eaten in every Chinese restaurant in America? Please think
>> before posting. For starters Chinese food in NY is world famous for
>> being excellent.
>
> I've eaten at the Chinese Restaurant on 5th Avenue that was regularly
> featured in Seinfeld - I forget its name now, but I'm sure you know
> the one.
>
> It's the only USA Chinese Food I've experienced, and it was OK -
> nothing particularly special, and not awful either, just OK. About
> the same as a decent British Chinese restaurant really, I guess.
I had take out 3 evenings and ate in 2 different restaurants as well. I
can't remember the names and locations now (I was fortunate to be staying
with friends who knew the area well) but I thought the food was excellent.
You can get good Chinese here, but this had the edge on it.
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Steven Allan
No way!
Some runny cheese laced with booze, a lump of bread and a bit of ham does
not constitute a meal. In Amsterdam it barely passes as breakfast!
:-)
Patrick Navin
ignore SECAM, all players sold in France are Pal compatible. As to
whether they will be multi region out of the box - you take your chances
there
Patrick
Bob Moore
>I've eaten Chinese in China, Hong Kong, USA, UK and Europe. The best was in
>Hitchin, its called the Mandarin Gourmet.
The best Chinese restaurant in space and time is the Kwok Man in
Manchester, in the late seventies.
So all you need now is a Tardis.
jam...@gmail.com
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