AyaNext Convention Book
Martin D. Pay
As Editor of this esteemed publication, I'm pleased to say that
the office is now open for submissions, both of words and
pictures.
This year the con book is intended to be A4 in size rather than
last year's A5...
If anyone would like more information about editorial policy
(such as it is) or submission guidelines please feel free to
e-mail me. Or write to me at 29 Langton Avenue, Chelmsford, Essex
CM1 2BW. Or seek me out at the LAC - I'm there for most of the
Sunday meetings, including the March one this coming Sunday. (But
I won't be at Minami - the plastic is still recovering from 2
weeks in the US and a visit to AnimeNation's shop in Tampa. ^_^
)
(Tentacle - and other - jokes mostly welcome... ^_^ )
Martin D. Pay
Who doesn't want to write the whole thing himself... and can't
draw to save his life... ^_-
Justin Palmer
<sak...@globalnet.co.uk> writes
>Greetings, gentlebeings!
>
>As Editor of this esteemed publication, I'm pleased to say that
>the office is now open for submissions, both of words and
>pictures.
>
>This year the con book is intended to be A4 in size rather than
>last year's A5...
>
>If anyone would like more information about editorial policy
>(such as it is) or submission guidelines please feel free to
>e-mail me.
Please could you send me the submission guidelines for the
conbook, thanks!
Also, would you know if the AyaNext committee would be
interested in running a few episodes of 80s puppet classic Star Fleet -
I have a compilation tape of a few episodes, but should be soon able to
obtain a copy of the last episodes - it would seem that theres more
interest in Star Fleet than I had previously imagined...! ^_^
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Justin Palmer
<jus...@briareos.demon.co.uk> writes
>In article <36e2e163...@read.news.global.net.uk>, Martin D. Pay
><sak...@globalnet.co.uk> writes
>>Greetings, gentlebeings!
>>
>>As Editor of this esteemed publication, I'm pleased to say that
>>the office is now open for submissions, both of words and
>>pictures.
>>
>>This year the con book is intended to be A4 in size rather than
>>last year's A5...
>>
>>If anyone would like more information about editorial policy
>>(such as it is) or submission guidelines please feel free to
>>e-mail me.
>
> Please could you send me the submission guidelines for the
>conbook, thanks!
Many apologies to umaa, this should have gone by e-mail.
Ian Worrall
Justin Palmer wrote in message <$yKyGKA5...@briareos.demon.co.uk>...
> Also, would you know if the AyaNext committee would be
>interested in running a few episodes of 80s puppet classic Star Fleet -
>I have a compilation tape of a few episodes, but should be soon able to
>obtain a copy of the last episodes - it would seem that theres more
>interest in Star Fleet than I had previously imagined...! ^_^
>
Please Committee-San, SAY YES!
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Chris <fi...@nergal.demon.co.uk> wrote in article
<zjsO1FAYdl$2M...@nergal.demon.co.uk>...
> In article <7dlb0u$sh5$2...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>, Ian Worrall
> <i...@washuu.freeserve.co.uk> writes
> I'll put it to the Committee but I won't guarantee anything. Last year
> we had 40 hours too much programme to fit in and we're reducing the
> airing time this year (we're not running any room 24 hours) so there may
> not be time to fit it in, but we'll try.
Whilst I would personally love to see X-bomber stuff again, it has been
on UK TV, and might cause problems with rights holders over here.
N
Justin Palmer
<fi...@nergal.demon.co.uk> writes
>In article <7dlb0u$sh5$2...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>, Ian Worrall
><i...@washuu.freeserve.co.uk> writes
>>
>>Justin Palmer wrote in message <$yKyGKA5...@briareos.demon.co.uk>...
>>
>>> Also, would you know if the AyaNext committee would be
>>>interested in running a few episodes of 80s puppet classic Star Fleet -
>>Please Committee-San, SAY YES!
>>
>>
What have I done? ^_^
>
>I'll put it to the Committee but I won't guarantee anything. Last year
>we had 40 hours too much programme to fit in and we're reducing the
>airing time this year (we're not running any room 24 hours) so there may
>not be time to fit it in, but we'll try.
Just to say that we appreciate the effort, Chris! Thanks!
SM Muk
OK, I know a lot of you went to Minami and had a lot of fun. Would like
to know what you all thought of the video program though. Just wanted to
collect some feedback and find out if *someone's* hard work has been
appreciated. Not much has been said so far about the program and that
either means that the lot of you have been too preoccupied socialising
'round the bar (this IS Minamicon) or you lot were OK with it. I've seen
a few comments on it especially regarding Perfect Blue and some little
comments on Lain and Bubblegum Crisis TV. Any other comments on this
matter for people who actually watched something? Hey...what about all
the cutey stuff shown at the con?
Anyway, happy recovering financially from the con. AyaNext in 7 months
time!!!!
Ja!
Lurker Meng-chan
"Probably the first and last you'll hear from me."
"I'm crawling back to my shell now."
Stuart Dawson
>and we're reducing the airing time this year (we're not
>running any room 24 hours)
That should keep the hotel happy at least. How about the VR1 though?
Will that still need some security through the night to look after the
gear or will it be broken down each night?
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Re-Miel
> OK, I know a lot of you went to Minami and had a lot of fun. Would like
>to know what you all thought of the video program though.
Feedback time.
> Just wanted to
>collect some feedback and find out if *someone's* hard work has been
>appreciated.
Forgive me. I am still recovering from overloading my brain
by watching _20_ episodes of Gundam Wing in the space of 48 hours.
I do hope this partly answers your question. <grin>
>comments on Lain and Bubblegum Crisis TV. Any other comments on this
>matter for people who actually watched something? Hey...what about all
>the cutey stuff shown at the con?
As you might be able to guess from the above, I _loved_ Gundam Wing
and my thanks to everyone who made that fansub possible. Now, when
will I get to watch 37-51... <g>
As for the rest of the program - I got a new TV series to fall in
love with. That being Hana Yori Dango. Only 4 episodes shown... <sob>
I really loved that series - pastel-like backgrounds, gorgeous
classical-ish instrumental music, shoujo manga atmosphere and excellent
characters - I mean 4F and Shizuka, not the Mitsukushi-chan. Who was
just exactly the same as most other shoujo manga main characters -
bland. <g> More, more need to watch more...
Wiess Kreuss (or whatever you write that without German keyboard
layout) was highly amuzing and I wouldn't mind watching some more of
that - nice seiyuus, nice story, nice characters.
Record of Lodoss Wars - I only seen first episode, so I didn't really
have enough time to comment on it. But I heard from friends in Japan
that it is not THAT good.
Lain - loved it, of course, and want to see more.
Overall it was a really, REALLY interesting program - thanks to those who
made it happen.
Ľ
> Anyway, happy recovering financially from the con. AyaNext in 7 months
>time!!!!
Oh, dear. Anyone wants to team up for some highway robbery^H^H^Hfund-raisingĄŠ
Re-Miel
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Emill Szynsky
>Hi minna-san!
>
> OK, I know a lot of you went to Minami and had a lot of fun. Would like
>collect some feedback and find out if *someone's* hard work has been
>either means that the lot of you have been too preoccupied socialising
>'round the bar (this IS Minamicon) or you lot were OK with it. I've seen
>a few comments on it especially regarding Perfect Blue and some little
>matter for people who actually watched something? Hey...what about all
>the cutey stuff shown at the con?
>
>time!!!!
Video Programme? One thing I think needs to be said is please make the
Con book a bit more helpful! Comprehensive, alphabetical and with
fuller ratings would have been a great help...
As for what I saw, Again, Lain was really really good, as was Hana Yori
Dango, it was also good to see a classic like Cats Eyes. ne thing that
might make a better video programme would be if genres of anime were
kept in seperate video rooms, a bit like the Shoujo and Bishounen Ai
stream at Shinnenkai, this just helps make sure there are no overlaps of
things that certain people will want to see. And have a mecha anime
programme! ^_^
En Taro Tassadar,
Emill
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Robert Fahey
<stu...@jingoro.demon.co.uk>. Seizing my quill, I wrote...
>Chris <fi...@nergal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>and we're reducing the airing time this year (we're not
>>running any room 24 hours)
>
>That should keep the hotel happy at least. How about the VR1 though?
>Will that still need some security through the night to look after the
>gear or will it be broken down each night?
Assuming room layout is the same, all you'd need to do would be open the
double doors between Ops and VR1, and since Ops is manned all night,
there'd always be people to look out into VR1 and spot any messing
about.
Mata ne!
Rob
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Current Listening: Bakaretsu Hunter OST 1
Nick Roberts
SM Muk <sm...@geocities.com> wrote:
> Hi minna-san!
>
> OK, I know a lot of you went to Minami and had a lot of fun. Would
> like to know what you all thought of the video program though. Just wanted
> to collect some feedback and find out if *someone's* hard work has been
> appreciated.
A pretty good programme, I thought. My main complaint was that on about
three separate occasions I needed to be in 2 or more video rooms at the same
time 8-(
A bit too much Gundam for my tastes, though (like more than none 8-)).
Still, it meant I could spend even more time and money in the dealers' room.
> I've seen a few comments on it especially regarding Perfect Blue and some
> little comments on Lain and Bubblegum Crisis TV.
Don't take my earlier negative comments about the subtitling on PB too
seriously - even with that, it was the high point of the video programme.
> Any other comments on
> this matter for people who actually watched something? Hey...what about
> all the cutey stuff shown at the con?
Well, I got hooked on Card Captor Sakura...
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Rally
Hi Meng,
Oh you know that the prog was simply =fabulous=... and we all know who that
*someone* is ^_-
As you know, I didn't actually get to see a single thing at the con but I
understand the subbing of Lain was especially good heh heh
Rally.
fox
<tig...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
>> Hi minna-san!
>>
>> OK, I know a lot of you went to Minami and had a lot of fun. Would
>> like to know what you all thought of the video program though. Just wanted
>> to collect some feedback and find out if *someone's* hard work has been
>> appreciated.
>
>A pretty good programme, I thought. My main complaint was that on about
>three separate occasions I needed to be in 2 or more video rooms at the same
>time 8-(
<AOL> me too </AOL>
I didn't see as much of the video programme as I would have liked (I
was having too much of a good time), but there was at least one
occasion when I needed to be in 3 places at once, and I had to give up
episode 2 of Lain to see 1 of BGC2040.
>> Any other comments on
>> this matter for people who actually watched something? Hey...what about
>> all the cutey stuff shown at the con?
>
>Well, I got hooked on Card Captor Sakura...
I was already hooked on Card Captor Sakura, and only didn't see it at
the Con because I was expecting a tape to turn up with some of the
same episodes on shortly, ditto Fancy Lala. I think they were both
good choices to show. Generally, I thought there was a pretty good
balance of stuff.
And I think I've made my feelings clear on the subject of Hyper
Police, which could be summed up as WANT! MORE! NOW!!
Fox
Stuart Dawson
>Just wanted to collect some feedback and find out if
>*someone's* hard work has been appreciated.
What can I say. The hard work of everyone involved was and is greatly
appreciated. Thank you all for a great con.
Martin D. Pay
wrote:
<snip>
>And I think I've made my feelings clear on the subject of Hyper
>Police, which could be summed up as WANT! MORE! NOW!!
<innocent grin> And just why would that be, then?
Martin D. Pay
Thinking silly thoughts...
Nyk Tarr
SM Muk wrote:
> Hi minna-san!
> OK, I know a lot of you went to Minami and had a lot of fun. Would like
> to know what you all thought of the video program though. Just wanted to
> collect some feedback and find out if *someone's* hard work has been
> appreciated. Not much has been said so far about the program and that
> either means that the lot of you have been too preoccupied socialising
> 'round the bar (this IS Minamicon) or you lot were OK with it. I've seen
> a few comments on it especially regarding Perfect Blue and some little
> comments on Lain and Bubblegum Crisis TV. Any other comments on this
> matter for people who actually watched something? Hey...what about all
> the cutey stuff shown at the con?
Generally speaking, the people that post here have already seen quite
a lot of anime, so we're only really interested in new stuff. Feedback
from here is going to be pretty unbalanced.(^_^)
Maybe some old stuff should make a re-appearance. Perhaps even some
old commercial releases? UY anyone?
For me, I like cute stuff...
Oh, and as Stuart says - thanks.
Tanaka
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David Parker
>
> SM Muk <sm...@geocities.com> wrote:
>
> >Just wanted to collect some feedback and find out if
> >*someone's* hard work has been appreciated.
>
> appreciated. Thank you all for a great con.
I'll certainly second that...i really enjoyed myself, and i know most
everyone else i spoke to did too.
Dave
fox
wrote:
>
>Generally speaking, the people that post here have already seen quite
>a lot of anime, so we're only really interested in new stuff. Feedback
>from here is going to be pretty unbalanced.(^_^)
This is a good point, that had also occurred to me. When I first
looked at the video list, I noticed a lot of stuff I wouldn't be going
to see because I had already seen it. This is not a criticism - I
think the programme was well balanced between new and old stuff, and I
think it should certainly include classics that the likes of us have
known for years. In fact I'd suggest perhaps having a quick poll to
suggest classics that a newbie ought to have the chance to see. This
should include a couple (at least) of titles that are available in the
UK, so that they can rush out to the shops to get their own copy.
>Maybe some old stuff should make a re-appearance. Perhaps even some
>old commercial releases? UY anyone?
Yay! UY movie 3 would be my choice, possibly with a short
introduction for newbies to let them know who the main characters are.
Others might include Gunbuster, Project Ako, Gall Force Eternal Story,
Moldiver, early Tenchi, Castle of Cagliostro (or preferably the two
Lupin TV episodes that Miyazaki did).
>Oh, and as Stuart says - thanks.
Likewise. I had a great time.
Fox
Paul Lampshire
>Generally speaking, the people that post here have already seen quite
>a lot of anime, so we're only really interested in new stuff. Feedback
>from here is going to be pretty unbalanced.(^_^)
>
I agree. Patlabor, maybe, or KOR, or Ranma, or...
>Perhaps even some
>old commercial releases?
Should we go for subbed versions of stuff that only came out over here
dubbed, or not?
>UY anyone?
That would be good.
>For me, I like cute stuff...
<AOL> Me too! </AOL>
Seriously. I like Votoms, and Zeta Gundam, but you can only take so much
grim and depressing. Sometimes you just need something cute and fluffy -
like Nuku Nuku.
>Oh, and as Stuart says - thanks.
<AOL> Me too! </AOL>
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Nyk Tarr
> On 30 Mar 99 21:29:15 +0100, "Nyk Tarr" <N...@tomobiki.demon.co.uk>
> wrote:
>>
>>Generally speaking, the people that post here have already seen quite
>>a lot of anime, so we're only really interested in new stuff. Feedback
>>from here is going to be pretty unbalanced.(^_^)
> This is a good point, that had also occurred to me. When I first
> looked at the video list, I noticed a lot of stuff I wouldn't be going
> to see because I had already seen it. This is not a criticism - I
> think the programme was well balanced between new and old stuff, and I
> think it should certainly include classics that the likes of us have
> known for years. In fact I'd suggest perhaps having a quick poll to
> suggest classics that a newbie ought to have the chance to see. This
> should include a couple (at least) of titles that are available in the
> UK, so that they can rush out to the shops to get their own copy.
>>Maybe some old stuff should make a re-appearance. Perhaps even some
>>old commercial releases? UY anyone?
> Yay! UY movie 3 would be my choice, possibly with a short
> introduction for newbies to let them know who the main characters are.
UYTV 1-4 as an introduction, of course!
> Others might include Gunbuster, Project Ako, Gall Force Eternal Story,
> Moldiver, early Tenchi, Castle of Cagliostro (or preferably the two
> Lupin TV episodes that Miyazaki did).
/Any/ LupinIII TV...^_^
Tanaka
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Duncan Law-Green
>And I think I've made my feelings clear on the subject of Hyper
>Police, which could be summed up as WANT! MORE! NOW!!
Hyper Police DVD Box Set, listed at Y38,000 on TokyoPop.
Ohhhh, my poor abused credit card... I don't think it could take the
strain...;_;
Ja na
Duncan
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Duncan Law-Green
wrote:
>Hi minna-san!
>
> OK, I know a lot of you went to Minami and had a lot of fun. Would like
>to know what you all thought of the video program though. Just wanted to
>collect some feedback and find out if *someone's* hard work has been
>appreciated. Not much has been said so far about the program and that
>either means that the lot of you have been too preoccupied socialising
>'round the bar (this IS Minamicon) or you lot were OK with it. I've seen
>a few comments on it especially regarding Perfect Blue and some little
>comments on Lain and Bubblegum Crisis TV. Any other comments on this
>matter for people who actually watched something? Hey...what about all
>the cutey stuff shown at the con?
To echo previous comments, a job well done and you can feel justly
proud. The LANMA contingent thoroughly enjoyed the weekend.
Re the video programme: there was a lot of great material there (I was
particularly anxious to see BGC TV and Nadesico the Movie). I have a
minor quibblette with the scheduling, though. I would question the
wisdom of showing mid-series episodes of a moderately popular series
in VR1 against initial eps of *very* popular series in smaller video
rooms (like Gundam Wing vs Slayers, f'rinstance) with the result of
crowding problems. A quick *wave* to all those in VR3 with whom I
(involuntarily) got better acquainted during Slayers Excellent...;)
> Anyway, happy recovering financially from the con. AyaNext in 7 months
>time!!!!
Register now, you know it makes sense ^_-
fox
(Duncan Law-Green) wrote:
>On Tue, 30 Mar 1999 02:22:20 GMT, f...@archea.demon.co.uk (fox) wrote:
>
>>And I think I've made my feelings clear on the subject of Hyper
>>Police, which could be summed up as WANT! MORE! NOW!!
>
>Hyper Police DVD Box Set, listed at Y38,000 on TokyoPop.
>
>Ohhhh, my poor abused credit card... I don't think it could take the
>strain...;_;
Yes, I've been looking at that, too. The only thing that restrains me
is that I don't know if I can sub from DVD.
Fox
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Inu Yasha
(Duncan Law-Green) wrote:
>On Tue, 30 Mar 1999 02:22:20 GMT, f...@archea.demon.co.uk (fox) wrote:
>
>>And I think I've made my feelings clear on the subject of Hyper
>>Police, which could be summed up as WANT! MORE! NOW!!
>
>Hyper Police DVD Box Set, listed at Y38,000 on TokyoPop.
>
>Ohhhh, my poor abused credit card... I don't think it could take the
>strain...;_;
a japanese dealer that takes credit cards? gimme details, URLs etc. :)
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<d...@ryouko.demon.spam-killer.co.uk> writes
>On Tue, 30 Mar 1999 02:22:20 GMT, f...@archea.demon.co.uk (fox) wrote:
>Hyper Police DVD Box Set, listed at Y38,000 on TokyoPop.
>
>Ohhhh, my poor abused credit card... I don't think it could take the
>strain...;_;
them for details as I couldn't find on the site and got no reply. Could
you e-mail it to me ta, providing they are any good of course.
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Ben Carter
(Duncan Law-Green) wrote:
>On Mon, 29 Mar 1999 13:50:14 +0000, SM Muk <sm...@geocities.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Hi minna-san!
>>
>> OK, I know a lot of you went to Minami and had a lot of fun. Would like
>>to know what you all thought of the video program though. Just wanted to
>>collect some feedback and find out if *someone's* hard work has been
>>appreciated. Not much has been said so far about the program and that
>>either means that the lot of you have been too preoccupied socialising
>>'round the bar (this IS Minamicon) or you lot were OK with it. I've seen
>>a few comments on it especially regarding Perfect Blue and some little
>>comments on Lain and Bubblegum Crisis TV. Any other comments on this
>>matter for people who actually watched something? Hey...what about all
>>the cutey stuff shown at the con?
Lain was excellent, though, and so is Slayers Try (first time I'd
seen it subbed!)
>To echo previous comments, a job well done and you can feel justly
>proud. The LANMA contingent thoroughly enjoyed the weekend.
>
>Re the video programme: there was a lot of great material there (I was
>particularly anxious to see BGC TV and Nadesico the Movie). I have a
>minor quibblette with the scheduling, though. I would question the
>wisdom of showing mid-series episodes of a moderately popular series
>in VR1 against initial eps of *very* popular series in smaller video
>rooms (like Gundam Wing vs Slayers, f'rinstance) with the result of
>crowding problems. A quick *wave* to all those in VR3 with whom I
>(involuntarily) got better acquainted during Slayers Excellent...;)
Yep... <grin>
It was a bit ridiculous, that, particularly when you consider the
number of people who would have joined us (but wisely decided not
to...)
>> Anyway, happy recovering financially from the con. AyaNext in 7 months
>>time!!!!
>
>Register now, you know it makes sense ^_-
Yep!
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Mad Mackerel
> >Hyper Police DVD Box Set, listed at Y38,000 on TokyoPop.
> >
> >Ohhhh, my poor abused credit card... I don't think it could take the
> >strain...;_;
>
http://www.tokyopop.com/tokyopop/
Not Japanese though, based somewhere in the US. Still spend too much money
with them.
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Ian Worrall
fox <f...@devilhunter.com> wrote in message
news:370d7576...@news.demon.co.uk...
> On Thu, 08 Apr 1999 08:02:21 GMT, d...@ryouko.demon.spam-killer.co.uk
> (Duncan Law-Green) wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 30 Mar 1999 02:22:20 GMT, f...@archea.demon.co.uk (fox) wrote:
> >
> >>Police, which could be summed up as WANT! MORE! NOW!!
> >
> >
> >Ohhhh, my poor abused credit card... I don't think it could take the
> >strain...;_;
>
> is that I don't know if I can sub from DVD.
>
PC-DVD or a stand-alone player?
Either way, if it's been modified for multi-region playback, then the
Macrovision should have been defeated too. There is, however, only
one way to be certain. ^_^
fox
<i...@washuu.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>> Yes, I've been looking at that, too. The only thing that restrains me
>> is that I don't know if I can sub from DVD.
>>
>
>PC-DVD or a stand-alone player?
DVD ROM.
>Either way, if it's been modified for multi-region playback, then the
>Macrovision should have been defeated too. There is, however, only
>one way to be certain. ^_^
Yeah, I'm pretty certain the macrovision is dead, dead, dead. But I
still don't have a genlock, and I don't think I could afford that AND
the Hyper Police box.
Fox
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Ian Worrall
> On Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:23:49 +0100, "Ian Worrall"
> <i...@washuu.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> >> Yes, I've been looking at that, too. The only thing that restrains me
> >> is that I don't know if I can sub from DVD.
> >>
> >
> >PC-DVD or a stand-alone player?
>
> DVD ROM.
>
> >Either way, if it's been modified for multi-region playback, then the
> >Macrovision should have been defeated too. There is, however, only
> >one way to be certain. ^_^
>
> Yeah, I'm pretty certain the macrovision is dead, dead, dead. But I
> still don't have a genlock, and I don't think I could afford that AND
> the Hyper Police box.
>
subtitles encoded on them?
fox
<i...@washuu.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>> >> Yes, I've been looking at that, too. The only thing that restrains me
>> >> is that I don't know if I can sub from DVD.
>> >>
>> >
>> >PC-DVD or a stand-alone player?
>>
>> DVD ROM.
>>
>> >Either way, if it's been modified for multi-region playback, then the
>> >Macrovision should have been defeated too. There is, however, only
>> >one way to be certain. ^_^
>>
>> Yeah, I'm pretty certain the macrovision is dead, dead, dead. But I
>> still don't have a genlock, and I don't think I could afford that AND
>> the Hyper Police box.
>>
>I assume that the DVD's you want to sub don't already have english
>subtitles encoded on them?
>
Noooo. I always prefer to subtitle things that already have subtitles,
it makes it easier to translate.
Stuart Dawson
>PC-DVD or a stand-alone player?
>Either way, if it's been modified for multi-region playback, then the
>Macrovision should have been defeated too.
Not true. Most Pioneers require a second set of pins to be wired
together to disable the Marovision.
SR Dominguez
> >> Yeah, I'm pretty certain the macrovision is dead, dead, dead. But I
> >> still don't have a genlock, and I don't think I could afford that AND
> >> the Hyper Police box.
> >>
> >I assume that the DVD's you want to sub don't already have english
> >subtitles encoded on them?
> >
> Noooo. I always prefer to subtitle things that already have subtitles,
> it makes it easier to translate.
Just don't translate 'Koko ni sanjou' as 'at your service' :)
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>
> > Noooo. I always prefer to subtitle things that already have subtitles,
> > it makes it easier to translate.
>
> Just don't translate 'Koko ni sanjou' as 'at your service' :)
Speaking as someone who knows a fair amount of nihongo, and also as
someone who has subbed (with the available scripts... :) ) half of the
series already...I realise that it's not entirely right either, but then
again i really couldn't be arsed to change it either... ^_^
Dave
SR Dominguez
> Just don't translate 'Koko ni sanjou' as 'at your service' :)
Actually, the only thing that narked me was the translation of Kitsune as
fox. There's no need for it, and it totally misses the point. There's no
equivelant of "Nine-taled Kitsune" in English.
"I'm actually quite innocent." -Batanen, Hyper Police
Simon Rafael Dominguez (u5...@ugd.keele.ac.uk)
SR Dominguez
> > Just don't translate 'Koko ni sanjou' as 'at your service' :)
> Actually, the only thing that narked me was the translation of Kitsune as
> fox. There's no need for it, and it totally misses the point. There's no
> equivelant of "Nine-taled Kitsune" in English.
'Kitsune' actually literally does mean fox. However, the idea that they have
magical powers is so deeply set in Japanese culture, that they really should
have put an explanation there somewhere.
To us, a fox is just a fox. To the Japanese, it's comparable in mythos to a
tanuki.
David Parker
>
> SR Dominguez <u5...@keele.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> > Just don't translate 'Koko ni sanjou' as 'at your service' :)
>
> Actually, the only thing that narked me was the translation of Kitsune as
> fox. There's no need for it, and it totally misses the point. There's no
> equivelant of "Nine-taled Kitsune" in English.
Huh ? Aren't we watching an ENGLISH language fansub here ? As much as
you or i might know what "kitsune" means, your average person that you
may introduce to the series won't...(the only way around this is to put
an explanation in a few times, and then just use the japanese word in
question, like Shinsengumi did with Rurouni Kenshin) so as Sakura is
quite literally a 9 tailed (sorry make that an 8.? tails... :) ) fox
species i don't see the your problem with the translation
there..."kitsune" as I am sure you well know means fox...as for "kyubi"
well...i see a little of what you mean here as this doesn't exactly mean
"nine tails" but in english to the viewer who doesn't know japanese and
also from the visual cue, nine tailed fox is a perfectly adequate
translation, where as "at your service" isn't correct...but flows well
in english for the scene it is depicting I think...
Dave
SR Dominguez
> Huh ? Aren't we watching an ENGLISH language fansub here ? As much as
> you or i might know what "kitsune" means, your average person that you
> may introduce to the series won't...(the only way around this is to put
> an explanation in a few times, and then just use the japanese word in
> question, like Shinsengumi did with Rurouni Kenshin) so as Sakura is
> quite literally a 9 tailed (sorry make that an 8.? tails... :) ) fox
> species i don't see the your problem with the translation
> there..."kitsune" as I am sure you well know means fox...as for "kyubi"
> well...i see a little of what you mean here as this doesn't exactly mean
> "nine tails" but in english to the viewer who doesn't know japanese and
> also from the visual cue, nine tailed fox is a perfectly adequate
> translation, where as "at your service" isn't correct...but flows well
> in english for the scene it is depicting I think...
Don't confuse me with Simon. :)
See my followup to his post above.
Duncan Law-Green
<mack...@altavista.net> wrote:
>Inu Yasha wrote...
>> >Hyper Police DVD Box Set, listed at Y38,000 on TokyoPop.
>> >
>> >Ohhhh, my poor abused credit card... I don't think it could take the
>> >strain...;_;
>>
>> a japanese dealer that takes credit cards? gimme details, URLs etc. :)
>
>http://www.tokyopop.com/tokyopop/
>Not Japanese though, based somewhere in the US. Still spend too much money
>with them.
See also http://www.cdjapan.com/
Nyk Tarr
> SR Dominguez <u5...@keele.ac.uk> wrote:
>> SR Dominguez <u5...@keele.ac.uk> wrote:
>> > Just don't translate 'Koko ni sanjou' as 'at your service' :)
>> Actually, the only thing that narked me was the translation of Kitsune as
>> fox. There's no need for it, and it totally misses the point. There's no
>> equivelant of "Nine-taled Kitsune" in English.
> 'Kitsune' actually literally does mean fox. However, the idea that they have
> magical powers is so deeply set in Japanese culture, that they really should
> have put an explanation there somewhere.
> To us, a fox is just a fox. To the Japanese, it's comparable in mythos to a
> tanuki.
...not quite.
There is no real 'tanuki'. There /is/ a real 'kitsune', not only
that, we have a name for it in English. Don't compare the two, they
ain't the same.
It's just plain inconsistent to call it a 'nine-tailed kitsune', you
should either translate all or none. If you want it to sound
other-worldly call it 'kyuubi no kitsune' (or whatever)
Tanaka
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SR Dominguez
> > 'Kitsune' actually literally does mean fox. However, the idea that they have
> > magical powers is so deeply set in Japanese culture, that they really should
> > have put an explanation there somewhere.
> > To us, a fox is just a fox. To the Japanese, it's comparable in mythos to a
> > tanuki.
> ...not quite.
Uh, I think you'll find the key word there was 'comparable'.
> There is no real 'tanuki'. There /is/ a real 'kitsune', not only
> that, we have a name for it in English.
I said they were comparable in mythos. You will find that 99% of the time a
kitsune turns up in Japanese animation or manga, it has magical powers.
There is very deep belief, going back centuries, that foxes are shape
shifters. Of course people don't believe that stuff nowadays, but the
connection will always be there in anime. In fact, as a fan of Japanese
legends I don't recall a single instance in manga or anime where a fox did
not have magical powers of some sort. Actually, Sakura's the first one I've
comes across who doesn't seem able to shapeshift.
It's kind of like writing a story about werewolves, then translating
werewolf to Japanese as 'ookami' with no other explanation.
Besides, it's widely thought that the concept of the tanuki derived from
Japanese legends of shapeshifting badgers. Foxes and badgers were both
thought of as shapeshifting beasts.
Don't compare the two, they
> ain't the same.
Actually, they are very comparable. There is even a Japanese saying I
remember reading, comparing tricksters to 'foxes and tanuki'. In that
instance, the kanjis for the two were even written as a compound.
> It's just plain inconsistent to call it a 'nine-tailed kitsune', you
> should either translate all or none. If you want it to sound
> other-worldly call it 'kyuubi no kitsune' (or whatever)
I didn't say this. Simon did.
Anyway, in the translation didn't they go the other way? Kyuubi Fox was the
exact wording they used, IIRC.
Christian Schmoelz
Ian Worrall wrote:
> fox <f...@devilhunter.com> wrote in message
> news:370d7576...@news.demon.co.uk...
> > On Thu, 08 Apr 1999 08:02:21 GMT, d...@ryouko.demon.spam-killer.co.uk
> > (Duncan Law-Green) wrote:
> >
> > >On Tue, 30 Mar 1999 02:22:20 GMT, f...@archea.demon.co.uk (fox) wrote:
> > >
> > >>And I think I've made my feelings clear on the subject of Hyper
> > >>Police, which could be summed up as WANT! MORE! NOW!!
> > >
> > >Hyper Police DVD Box Set, listed at Y38,000 on TokyoPop.
> > >
> > >Ohhhh, my poor abused credit card... I don't think it could take the
> > >strain...;_;
> >
> > Yes, I've been looking at that, too. The only thing that restrains me
> > is that I don't know if I can sub from DVD.
> >
>
> PC-DVD or a stand-alone player?
>
> Either way, if it's been modified for multi-region playback, then the
Nyk Tarr
SR Dominguez wrote:
> Nyk Tarr <N...@tomobiki.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> There is no real 'tanuki'. There /is/ a real 'kitsune', not only
>> that, we have a name for it in English.
> I said they were comparable in mythos. You will find that 99% of the time a
> kitsune turns up in Japanese animation or manga, it has magical powers.
> There is very deep belief, going back centuries, that foxes are shape
> shifters. Of course people don't believe that stuff nowadays, but the
> connection will always be there in anime. In fact, as a fan of Japanese
> legends I don't recall a single instance in manga or anime where a fox did
> not have magical powers of some sort. Actually, Sakura's the first one I've
> comes across who doesn't seem able to shapeshift.
Sorry, I was trying to keep the comments to translation...
To take the 'mythos' (I hate that word) Foxes also have a similar role
in English mythology, red-riding hood, for example: a prime example
of a shape-changer (in this case by disguise) being uncovered. This
lends weight to the 'translate' argument. I can't think of an
equivalent to 'tanuki', weasels, badgers, raccoons and the like just
don't fit, foxes seem to do pretty much the same job in Japanese and
English culture.
Although they have a similar role in mythology, I don't think that's a
reasonable justification for using the same rule of translation on
them as words. Particularly in th example of Hyper Police, there is no
need to emphasise the mythical nature of foxes as there's a flashback
that does the job. Compared with the rest of the company, she's
actually quite ordinary.
In anime/manga that have magical animals in them, the humans tend to
be pretty unusual as well. ^_^
> It's kind of like writing a story about werewolves, then translating
> werewolf to Japanese as 'ookami' with no other explanation.
o~kamiotoko in fact. By direct analogy with 'nine-tailed fox'
I've seen a more tricky example on a menu in Manchester: they do
'kitsune udon'.
My take on this is that to us, 'fox' doesn't mean 'fried tofu', but it
does mean '(crafty) woodland creature with bushy tail'. Hence, one can
be translated, the other cannot.
> Besides, it's widely thought that the concept of the tanuki derived from
> Japanese legends of shapeshifting badgers. Foxes and badgers were both
> thought of as shapeshifting beasts.
I've looked a bit further, and the sources I have to hand aren't in
agreement (with each other)... I'll try to check further. In any case,
for this purpose I think the origin of a word or concept is secondary,
the main purpose of a translation is to convey meaning, not aetiology...
> Don't compare the two, they
>> ain't the same.
> Actually, they are very comparable. There is even a Japanese saying I
> remember reading, comparing tricksters to 'foxes and tanuki'. In that
> instance, the kanjis for the two were even written as a compound.
quotation and date would be nice, it sounds old and tricky to
translate. 'Compound' kanji suggests it shouldn't be translated as
'and' anyway.
>> It's just plain inconsistent to call it a 'nine-tailed kitsune', you
>> should either translate all or none. If you want it to sound
>> other-worldly call it 'kyuubi no kitsune' (or whatever)
> I didn't say this. Simon did.
Sorry, I try to put together a coherent argument and not to criticize
anyone.
> Anyway, in the translation didn't they go the other way? Kyuubi Fox was the
> exact wording they used, IIRC.
Same applies of course, I feel that that is an incorrect, or rather,
inconsistent translation.
Hell, I'm not a professional translator, just an
opinionated amateur...
Tanaka
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Duncan Law-Green
>I said they were comparable in mythos. You will find that 99% of the time a
>kitsune turns up in Japanese animation or manga, it has magical powers.
>There is very deep belief, going back centuries, that foxes are shape
>shifters. Of course people don't believe that stuff nowadays, but the
>connection will always be there in anime. In fact, as a fan of Japanese
>legends I don't recall a single instance in manga or anime where a fox did
>not have magical powers of some sort. Actually, Sakura's the first one I've
>comes across who doesn't seem able to shapeshift.
...due to the lack of the last half-tail, of course ^_^. Sakura takes
it quite badly when Natsuki assumes she _can_ shapeshift (see ep.8).
CPerry9286
>>shifters.
A sub-catagory of shapeshifting fax mythos parallel western incubus/sucubus
mythology.
Duncan Law-Green
<blac...@peek-a-boo.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <371d4722...@news.demon.co.uk>, Duncan Law-Green
><d...@ryouko.demon.spam-killer.co.uk> writes
>>
>>...due to the lack of the last half-tail, of course ^_^. Sakura takes
>>it quite badly when Natsuki assumes she _can_ shapeshift (see ep.8).
>
>When? Next term? :-)
*IF* I can source copies of eps 6+ subbed, then yes. (Just have to
wait for Steve's PC to break again so's I can fix it, so he owes me
another favour ^_-).
Otherwise you'll just have to wait for me to crack and buy the Jap DVD
box. It probably won't take long ;_;
Wednesday
And here I thought the one at work had just turned into a photocopier with
a phone cable sticking out.
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Justin Palmer
chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes
>In article <19990420165403...@ng-ce1.aol.com>,
>CPerry9286 <cperr...@aol.com> wrote:
>>A sub-catagory of shapeshifting fax mythos
>
>And here I thought the one at work had just turned into a photocopier with
>a phone cable sticking out.
Thats funny, ours seems to like its current form of a useless
block of dark plastic... ^_^
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Duncan Law-Green
(Duncan Law-Green) wrote:
>On Tue, 30 Mar 1999 02:22:20 GMT, f...@archea.demon.co.uk (fox) wrote:
>
>>And I think I've made my feelings clear on the subject of Hyper
>>Police, which could be summed up as WANT! MORE! NOW!!
>
>Hyper Police DVD Box Set, listed at Y38,000 on TokyoPop.
>
>Ohhhh, my poor abused credit card... I don't think it could take the
>strain...;_;
Alex just listed Hyper Police manga vol.5 in his latest update, in
case you missed it. You never saw an order go in so fast...^_-
CPerry9286
>>
Can't you recognized your own british spelling of "fox", or should that be
"Foux" (as in colour). @@
V
Snicker.
CPerry9286
>>>A sub-catagory of shapeshifting fax mythos
Oops, tricked yet again! Make that "fox"
CPerry