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Stuart Dawson

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Jul 19, 2001, 12:36:49 PM7/19/01
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Got an odd e-mail last night from a bloke. Here's what it had to say:

>Stuart,
> I wonder if you can help. I'm from the Big Issue in the North,
>magazine, Manchester. And in this weeks magazine we are running a feature on
>'Manga' comics, animation etc. and were wondering if you have any images or
>pictures of characters etc that we could use in the magazine.
>
>We are on a tight deadline and would need the pictures etc tommorow
>afternoon at the latest.
>
>If you can help, please contact me on the above email address or contact me
>direct on 0161 2797836.
>
>Many Thanks
>Garry Burton

Is it just me that got this or has anyone else received something
similar?

Naturally it was about 7pm when I read this (like only 1 hour before I
go to bed) and it sent me into a three hour scanning frenzy. _-_

--
Stuart Dawson - 131 art books now reviewed
http://www.jingoro.demon.co.uk/frame.htm

Tsunami

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Jul 19, 2001, 1:47:22 PM7/19/01
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Once upon a time Stuart Dawson <stu...@jingoro.demon.co.uk> scribed
carefully:

>:
>:Got an odd e-mail last night from a bloke. Here's what it had to say:

And then there is the copyright problem.... Hope they don't attribute
them all to you!

Tsunami

Zeshan

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Jul 19, 2001, 6:11:31 PM7/19/01
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On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 17:36:49 +0100, Stuart Dawson
<stu...@jingoro.demon.co.uk> wrote:


>Is it just me that got this or has anyone else received something
>similar?

I think the YATA website would have referred them to you. Since it's
an anime club that's "in the North"

Zeshan
----------------------
http://www.zeshan.com/
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Stuart Dawson

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Jul 20, 2001, 9:06:31 AM7/20/01
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On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 23:11:31 +0100, Zeshan <zes...@zeshan.com> wrote:

>>Is it just me that got this or has anyone else received something
>>similar?
>
>I think the YATA website would have referred them to you. Since it's
>an anime club that's "in the North"

Sounds more like he went through the Britanime site actually.

Stuart Dawson

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Jul 20, 2001, 9:09:15 AM7/20/01
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On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 17:47:22 GMT, tsu...@nospam.jyurai.co.uk
(Tsunami) wrote:

>>:Naturally it was about 7pm when I read this (like only 1 hour before I
>>:go to bed) and it sent me into a three hour scanning frenzy. _-_
>
>And then there is the copyright problem.... Hope they don't attribute
>them all to you!

Don't worry, I made sure they were all attributed to their respective
artists where I knew them (and if I didn't then to the series and
production studio).

Nyk Tarr

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Jul 19, 2001, 3:16:41 PM7/19/01
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On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 17:36:49 +0100 in uk.media.animation.anime,
Stuart Dawson appears to have said,

...and then you pointed him at the Japanese publishers he needs to
get permission from... ^_^

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Mrdini

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Jul 20, 2001, 2:21:37 PM7/20/01
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In article <ht2elto3tc81jem4o...@4ax.com>, Stuart Dawson
<stu...@jingoro.demon.co.uk> wrote:

Heh, poor you ^_^ FWIW, I hope you included a scan of the girl from "To
Heart", Multi coz most people would recognise her :) (there seem to be
an unusually LOT of t-shirts with a picture of her floating around at
the moment)

BTW, since I don't, as a rule, buy the Big Issue, would someone mind
enlightening me on when the Big Issue is usually "released" - every
Thurs wasn't it?

--
Yoav Felberbaum
E-Mail: y.m.fel...@wlv.ac.uk

AC

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Jul 20, 2001, 3:59:22 PM7/20/01
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Stuart Dawson <stu...@jingoro.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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och, f*** copyrights, that ROCKS!

AC


Stuart Dawson

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Jul 22, 2001, 2:51:43 AM7/22/01
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On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 20:16:41 +0100, tan...@giantx.demon.co.uk (Nyk
Tarr) wrote:

>>Naturally it was about 7pm when I read this (like only 1 hour before I
>>go to bed) and it sent me into a three hour scanning frenzy. _-_
>
>...and then you pointed him at the Japanese publishers he needs to
>get permission from... ^_^

Well I did point out that there was no way I could give him permission
to use them as I didn't own them. Is that close enough? ^_^

Sounds like they tried the Japan Foundation first and were given a
couple of poxy B&W sketches which were bugger all use to them.

Nyk Tarr

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Jul 22, 2001, 10:20:42 AM7/22/01
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On Sun, 22 Jul 2001 07:51:43 +0100 in uk.media.animation.anime,

Stuart Dawson appears to have said,
>On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 20:16:41 +0100, tan...@giantx.demon.co.uk (Nyk
>Tarr) wrote:
>
>>>Naturally it was about 7pm when I read this (like only 1 hour before I
>>>go to bed) and it sent me into a three hour scanning frenzy. _-_
>>
>>...and then you pointed him at the Japanese publishers he needs to
>>get permission from... ^_^
>
>Well I did point out that there was no way I could give him permission
>to use them as I didn't own them. Is that close enough? ^_^
>
>Sounds like they tried the Japan Foundation first and were given a
>couple of poxy B&W sketches which were bugger all use to them.
>

Sounds about right - manga just isn't /art/ is it...

Inu Yasha

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Jul 22, 2001, 2:29:27 PM7/22/01
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On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 17:36:49 +0100, Stuart Dawson
<stu...@jingoro.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>
>Got an odd e-mail last night from a bloke. Here's what it had to say:
>
>>Stuart,
>> I wonder if you can help. I'm from the Big Issue in the North,
>>magazine, Manchester. And in this weeks magazine we are running a feature on
>>'Manga' comics, animation etc. and were wondering if you have any images or
>>pictures of characters etc that we could use in the magazine.
>>
>>We are on a tight deadline and would need the pictures etc tommorow
>>afternoon at the latest.
>>
>>If you can help, please contact me on the above email address or contact me
>>direct on

<SNIP>


>>
>>Many Thanks
>>Garry Burton
>
>Is it just me that got this or has anyone else received something
>similar?
>
>Naturally it was about 7pm when I read this (like only 1 hour before I
>go to bed) and it sent me into a three hour scanning frenzy. _-_

This could be interesting..

The Big Issue is probably more likely to produce an unbiased article than
most mainstream media.

Did they say which issue it was going to appear in? I might be tempted to
pick up a copy.

Oh, and no, I never got anything like that, guess you're more prominent
amongst UK anime fandom because of running YATA and all that.

Oh, might've been a good idea not to post the phone number here.

Abbo

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Jul 23, 2001, 1:05:01 PM7/23/01
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On Sun, 22 Jul 2001 19:29:27 +0100, Inu Yasha <I...@lum.coNOPSAM.uk>
wrote:

>The Big Issue is probably more likely to produce an unbiased article than
>most mainstream media.
>
>Did they say which issue it was going to appear in? I might be tempted to
>pick up a copy.

The contents for the current on-sale issue is at
<http://www.bigissueinthenorth.com/Magazine/index.htm>, which
conveniently also has a picture of the cover. So you could check that
before going out to buy one. I'm not sure what day new issues come
out. Yoav said "Thursday", but I'm not sure if that was for "The Big
Issue In The North" or some other "The Big Issue".
--
Ian James Abbott |*| "Konya wa 'Hurricane'!" -- Priss
i...@abbott.org |*| "Konya wa shichuu kana?" -- Mink

Mrdini

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Jul 23, 2001, 1:32:43 PM7/23/01
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In article <cqloltouplgrb9ih9...@4ax.com>, Abbo
<i...@abbott.org> wrote:

> On Sun, 22 Jul 2001 19:29:27 +0100, Inu Yasha <I...@lum.coNOPSAM.uk>
> wrote:
>
> >The Big Issue is probably more likely to produce an unbiased article than
> >most mainstream media.
> >
> >Did they say which issue it was going to appear in? I might be tempted to
> >pick up a copy.
>
> The contents for the current on-sale issue is at
> <http://www.bigissueinthenorth.com/Magazine/index.htm>, which
> conveniently also has a picture of the cover. So you could check that
> before going out to buy one. I'm not sure what day new issues come
> out. Yoav said "Thursday", but I'm not sure if that was for "The Big
> Issue In The North" or some other "The Big Issue".

umm... don't go quoting me :P It was just a day picked out of the hat
here next to me! For all I know, it could've been Monday!

Stuart Dawson

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Jul 23, 2001, 12:23:22 PM7/23/01
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On Sun, 22 Jul 2001 19:29:27 +0100, Inu Yasha <I...@lum.coNOPSAM.uk>
wrote:

[Big Issue stuff]


>>Is it just me that got this or has anyone else received something
>>similar?
>

>This could be interesting..
>
>The Big Issue is probably more likely to produce an unbiased article than
>most mainstream media.

Why? Just because they're not mainstream doesn't mean they don't have
agendas of their own.

>Did they say which issue it was going to appear in? I might be tempted to
>pick up a copy.

Nope, however he did say the dead line was for Thursday pm so it might
be this weeks...

>Oh, and no, I never got anything like that, guess you're more prominent
>amongst UK anime fandom because of running YATA and all that.

There's a downside to that as you have to field the occasional nutter
too. ^_^

>Oh, might've been a good idea not to post the phone number here.

<shrug> Never thought about that to be honest but if you really want
to know which issue it'll be in then I guess you could always ring him
up and ask now. ^_-

Stuart Dawson

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Jul 24, 2001, 9:52:52 AM7/24/01
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On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 17:36:49 +0100, Stuart Dawson
<stu...@jingoro.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>>Stuart,
>> I wonder if you can help. I'm from the Big Issue in the North,
>>magazine, Manchester. And in this weeks magazine we are running a feature on
>>'Manga' comics, animation etc. and were wondering if you have any images or
>>pictures of characters etc that we could use in the magazine.

Picked up a copy in Leeds today. It's in the issue dated July 23 - 29
2001 No.373

In the end they used four of the twelve pictures I sent them (they
managed to use one picture twice by using different halves of it),
three from Gundam Wing, one from Tokyo Babylon and a Michitaka Kikuchi
picture. Most of the other images used look like MEL release covers.
Hardly the most inspired layout for the article but i suppose it does
the job.

http://www.jingoro.demon.co.uk/bigissue.jpg

Text for the article was as follows (and if they decide to moan about
copyright I'll mention their use of the pictures ^_^):

Lifestyles

(TOP L- R): IMAGES FROM THE MANGA COMICBOOKS BLUE SONNET, GUNDAM WING,
STREETFIGHTER AND PROJECTAKO.

(MIDDLE L - R): IMAGES FROM HEROICARISIAN [sic], HEERO YUY AND GUNDAM
WING, CRYING FREEMAN AND GUNDAM.

(BELOW L-R): IMAGES FROM BUBBLEGUM CRASH, AD POLICE, BLACK [actually
this was from Tokyo Babylon but just beneath where they've cropped the
picture was the word "BLACK". Evidently someone didn't read the text
the picture came attached to.] AND WICKED CITY.

[NB I think only two of these pictures might actually have been from
their manga versions]

[Title] An open book? Manga, the comicbook phenomenon of Japan, holds
a key to the hidden face of Japanese society By David Atkinson

My one overriding memory of living in Japan was the ubiquitous nature
of 'manga'. On the subway, I'd see grey suited salarymen pouring over
thick manga comic books. Shopping at a convenience store, I'd spy
teenage school kids flipping through the pages of Shonen Jump while,
eating dinner at my local ramen stall, I'd find single office ladies
dabbing their eyes wisffully as they read the latest adventures of
their romantic comicbook heroes while heartily slurping their noodles.
Furthermore, I was bombarded by manga-style imagery daily from video
arcades and shop fronts to TV advertising. Cinema queues snaked down
the street when the latest anime (manga cartoon animation) hit town,
while every station platform news-stand resembled a scaled-down
version of Hiroshima's excellent manga library
Tezuka Osamu is the father of modern manga and inventor of Astro Boy
and Kimba the White Lion. His work is now celebrated at the Tezuka
Osamu Manga Museum in Takarazuka, just
outside Osaka.
"Almost single-handedly, Osamu made it acceptable for adults to read
manga and take them seriously as an art form. He proved that, through
the manga medium, he could handle weighty themes and create complex
characters as well as any novelist," says Mark Schilling, film critic
for the Japan Times.
But manga is not just about escapism and eye-candy It is intrinsically
linked to Japanese society, acting as a forum for social debate, and
the widest medium by which Japan casts
its influence over the world. Writing in the Bulletin of
ConcernedAsian Scholars in 1997, academic Maia Tsurumi defined manga
as, "a new type of democratic medium accessible by cultural amateurs;
which could transgress the boundaries of low and high culture.
In the West, however, we understand little about the double life of
the manga industry A new touring exhibition aims to shed some light on
this a by showcasing Japan's most enduring cultural phenomenon. The
exhibition, Manga: Short Comics from Modern Japan, curated by Japanese
manga author and critic, Natsume Fusanosuke, includes works by 25
artists including Tezuka Osamu, Taiyo Matsumoto and leading female
manga artists Kyoko Okazaki and Oshima Yumiko.
"Japanese manga bears a close relationship to the traditional
Japanese visual arts," explains Fusanosuke. "In both 12th Century
emakimono picture scrolls and kibyoshi illustrated stories popular
among the common people during the Edo Period (1603- 1868), there is a
close interaction between pictures and words, to the extent that
reading can be considered a visual art form."
When multi-frame comics and newspaper cartoons came to Japan from
the States in the Twenties, coupled with the advent of cinema, the
modern era of manga was born. Yet, despite obvious Western influences,
it developed as a uniquely Japanese form of comic art.
The man who championed the cause was Osamu. "However, he was not
only an uplifter but a populariser. A fan of Disney -he saw Bambi 80
times, until he had memorised every frame -Tezuka adopted the round,
cutesy Disney look for his creations which became the trademark of
modern manga," says Schilling.
Today, total annual manga publishing sales in Japan amount to 2.6
trillion Yen with manga accounting for 40 percent of all publications
going to press.
However, not all is well in the world of manga, - a new sub-genre of
amateur manga (known as Lolicom, a reference to Nabakov's novel which
spawned the concept of the Lolita Complex) evolved which was fixated
with images of extreme sexual violence.
The backlash came in 1989 following a serial-child-murder case known
as the "Miyazaki incident", a case.with a similar impact in Japan to
the Jamie Bulger case in the UK. After sexually violent manga were
found in the 26-year-old loner-turned-killer's home, the media seized
upon an alleged link between the rise of Loiicom manga and
increasingly violent crime. The headline in the Tokyo Journal read:
"The little girls he killed were no more than characters from his
comic-book life."

[inset picture with caption] TOON SMITH: 'PONY' BY ARTIST MICHITAKA
KIKUCHI.

In Sharon Kinsella's excellent behind-the-scenes expose of the
industry, Adult Manga: Culture and Power in Contemporary Japanese
Society (Curzon Press! www curzonpress. co. uk), however, the author
puts this incident in context. "Manga is the end product of a series
of complicated conscious social exchanges and intelligent cultural
management," she writes. "The closer we look at the making of manga,
the more we see that it is not so much about 'Japanese culture~ as
contemporary culture in a modern industrial society."
"In the past, there was so little crime in Japan, we never thought
about the influence of manga. But now, I fear manga has been
corrupted," says Isao Takahata, who, along with Hayao Miyazaki founded
the Ghibli animation studio in 1985. "Perhaps when children read manga
where kids are heroes, it gives the a feeling of being powerful which
they cannot realise in real life."
But as Takahata edges towards retirement, he fears the halcyon days
of manga may have passed. Manga sales reached their peak with a total
annual circulation of 1,200 million in 1994 and the overall value of
the domestic industry is now declining by 10 per cent a year. Worse
still, he fears that the spirit of manga in which he co-founded the
studio has been lost.
"Japanese tend not to talk about their problems but I always
believed we can express in manga things we cannot talk about openly.
It is used as a tool to help us visualise and explain aspects of
society more clearly," he says, busily pouring over plans for the
Ghibli museum which opens in Mitaka City outside Tokyo in October this
year.
"By using anime," he adds, "we can see the world more clearly and
express emotions -that has always been the power of Japanese
animation."
Japan 2001 events information at: wwwjapan200l.org.uk
'Manga: Short Comics from Modern Japan' is at the Derby Museum andArt
Gallery until September 2. Tel: 01332 716659.
For further information on Studio Ghibli visit: www.nausiccaa.net A
Ghibli exhibition is at the London Barbican from October 19- 28. For
details visit: www.barbican.org.uk

[side panel article]
The Kamayan

Osaka is the homeless capital of Japan with thousands sleeping rough
on the streets of the Kamagasaki district, an area associated with
severe social deprivation.
Local artist and welfare officer, Sen Arimura, saw the need for a
means to offer advice to day labourers and homeless people about their
rights. Hence the satirical Kamayan comic strip was born in 1982 as
part of a newsletter produced by his office at the Nishinari Labour
Welfare Centre.
It caught on. Now, six books (three in English) and combined sales of
around 250,000 later, his comic protagonist, the Kamayan (literally,
"the man from Kamagasaki") is a cult figure.
"I thought the comic was the best medium to reach a wider audience as
manga is so popular in Japan," he explains. "It was a way to build
community while giving people a laugh."
Arimura-san has worked with Osaka's homeless since the Seventies and
is now director of the Kamagasaki Residence CaM, a grass-roots
programme running shelters for the homeless and organising workshops
for local residents with the aim of helping the disadvantaged become
more self-supporting.
"I like to think of myself as a chronicler of events - no other comic
artists takes such a political stance. And there's been a lot of media
interest in my cartoons which certainly helps highlight the problems
of the area," he says.
"However, to get these people back on their feet, we need to foster a
sense of community and develop a new more tolerant approach to the
problems of the disadvantaged. I just hope Kamayan can make some small
difference.

--
Stuart Dawson - 138 art books now reviewed
http://www.jingoro.demon.co.uk/frame.htm

Abbo

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On Mon, 23 Jul 2001 18:32:43 +0100, Mrdini <y.m.fel...@wlv.ac.uk>
wrote:

The one the girl outside my local supermarket was selling yesterday
had a different cover to the one on the web-site, so you may be right!
^_^

Actually, after checking the HTTP headers for the above URL, it was
last modified just over a over a month ago (June 22), so I guess it's
a waste of time using it to check what's in the current issue....

Inu Yasha

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Jul 25, 2001, 12:43:02 PM7/25/01
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2001 17:23:22 +0100, Stuart Dawson
<stu...@jingoro.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>On Sun, 22 Jul 2001 19:29:27 +0100, Inu Yasha <I...@lum.coNOPSAM.uk>
>wrote:
>
>[Big Issue stuff]
>>>Is it just me that got this or has anyone else received something
>>>similar?
>>
>>This could be interesting..
>>
>>The Big Issue is probably more likely to produce an unbiased article than
>>most mainstream media.
>
>Why? Just because they're not mainstream doesn't mean they don't have
>agendas of their own.

True, but I reckon that they are *more likely* to give a better article
than, say, the Daily Mail or the News of the World.

>>Did they say which issue it was going to appear in? I might be tempted to
>>pick up a copy.
>
>Nope, however he did say the dead line was for Thursday pm so it might
>be this weeks...
>
>>Oh, and no, I never got anything like that, guess you're more prominent
>>amongst UK anime fandom because of running YATA and all that.
>
>There's a downside to that as you have to field the occasional nutter
>too. ^_^

Yes, but surely you meet most of the manning registration at the cons?

>>Oh, might've been a good idea not to post the phone number here.
>
><shrug> Never thought about that to be honest but if you really want
>to know which issue it'll be in then I guess you could always ring him
>up and ask now. ^_-

This is true :)

Stuart Dawson

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Jul 26, 2001, 12:08:07 PM7/26/01
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On Wed, 25 Jul 2001 17:43:02 +0100, Inu Yasha <I...@lum.coNOPSAM.uk>
wrote:

>>>The Big Issue is probably more likely to produce an unbiased article than


>>>most mainstream media.
>>
>>Why? Just because they're not mainstream doesn't mean they don't have
>>agendas of their own.
>
>True, but I reckon that they are *more likely* to give a better article
>than, say, the Daily Mail or the News of the World.

Well now having read it I do think it was a pretty balanced article
but there didn't seem to be much of a point to it. Lots of decent
names get in there and there's obviously been _some_ research done to
get those in, but apart from "there's lots of comics in Japan" where
was it heading?

>>>Oh, and no, I never got anything like that, guess you're more prominent
>>>amongst UK anime fandom because of running YATA and all that.
>>
>>There's a downside to that as you have to field the occasional nutter
>>too. ^_^
>
>Yes, but surely you meet most of the manning registration at the cons?

There's a few at cons but there's just as many out in the big wide
world I assure you. I've had more than my fair share of e-mails that
read something like this little gem that I received last month:

>I wanna know more about manga also esp in the south east

I mean what do you say to a hotmail user like that!?

--
Stuart Dawson - 138 art books now reviewed
http://www.jingoro.demon.co.uk/frame.htm

Inu Yasha

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Jul 26, 2001, 7:28:53 PM7/26/01
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On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 17:08:07 +0100, Stuart Dawson
<stu...@jingoro.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>On Wed, 25 Jul 2001 17:43:02 +0100, Inu Yasha <I...@lum.coNOPSAM.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>>>The Big Issue is probably more likely to produce an unbiased article than
>>>>most mainstream media.
>>>
>>>Why? Just because they're not mainstream doesn't mean they don't have
>>>agendas of their own.
>>
>>True, but I reckon that they are *more likely* to give a better article
>>than, say, the Daily Mail or the News of the World.
>
>Well now having read it I do think it was a pretty balanced article
>but there didn't seem to be much of a point to it. Lots of decent
>names get in there and there's obviously been _some_ research done to
>get those in, but apart from "there's lots of comics in Japan" where
>was it heading?

This is true, maybe he just wanted to get some real facts across rather
than make a specific point..


>
>>>>Oh, and no, I never got anything like that, guess you're more prominent
>>>>amongst UK anime fandom because of running YATA and all that.
>>>
>>>There's a downside to that as you have to field the occasional nutter
>>>too. ^_^
>>
>>Yes, but surely you meet most of the manning registration at the cons?
>
>There's a few at cons but there's just as many out in the big wide
>world I assure you. I've had more than my fair share of e-mails that
>read something like this little gem that I received last month:
>
>>I wanna know more about manga also esp in the south east
>
>I mean what do you say to a hotmail user like that!?

You tell him were Yourshire is.

Or just ignore him..

Of course, this being hotmail, he could have well done several well written
paragraps that MS went and lost.

Stuart Dawson

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Jul 27, 2001, 8:00:29 AM7/27/01
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On Fri, 27 Jul 2001 00:28:53 +0100, Inu Yasha <I...@lum.coNOPSAM.uk>
wrote:

>>Well now having read it I do think it was a pretty balanced article


>>but there didn't seem to be much of a point to it. Lots of decent
>>names get in there and there's obviously been _some_ research done to
>>get those in, but apart from "there's lots of comics in Japan" where
>>was it heading?
>
>This is true, maybe he just wanted to get some real facts across rather
>than make a specific point..

Possibly but it still felt like the article lacked focus to me. It
skimmed through various facts and people without saying a great deal
about any of them.

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