Harehills
Dr Drew
most densely-populated sqaure mile in Europe, thanks to all the
back-to-backs. Is this true? Seems a little unbelievable to me when I
think of the rabbit-warrens in cities such as Lisbon - but the source
was pretty trustworthy. Can anyone confirm this?
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HydeParky
Dr Drew <dr...@comp.leeds.ac.uk> wrote in message
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> I've recently been told that a square mile of Harehills, Leeds, is the
> most densely-populated sqaure mile in Europe, thanks to all the
> back-to-backs. Is this true? Seems a little unbelievable to me when I
> think of the rabbit-warrens in cities such as Lisbon - but the source
> was pretty trustworthy. Can anyone confirm this?
I can't confirm or refute it. It's a candidate, I should think, on the
grounds of it's high proportion of rented property. In Burley & Hyde Park
most of the 2up/2downs are now converted to HMOs with 6-8 residents. A
friend lives in an unconverted one & it seems just a nice size for one
person or comfortable for a couple. A high number of converted properties
will double or even triple the number of residents in an area.
Talking of housing. I see the old sewage farm on the Otley Road is going to
be new houses. I wonder if the developers will continue their twee habit of
naming the roads after the piece of green belt/historic building they just
built over? Might put a newer, more literal meaning to "I'm really up S**t
Street now". I'd go there just to say it.
Who chooses street names anyway?
Still, there is a road in London called Seething Wells, named after the
local cess-pit. And ex-Leeds based poet/ranter, Seething Wells, named
himself after the road. I think even James Burke would be hard-pushed to get
a connection like that.
hannah d
>
> Talking of housing. I see the old sewage farm on the Otley Road is
> going to be new houses. I wonder if the developers will continue
> their twee habit of naming the roads after the piece of green
> belt/historic building they just built over? Might put a newer, more
> literal meaning to "I'm really up S**t Street now". I'd go there just
> to say it.
>
> Who chooses street names anyway?
>
> Still, there is a road in London called Seething Wells, named after
> the local cess-pit. And ex-Leeds based poet/ranter, Seething Wells,
> named himself after the road. I think even James Burke would be
> hard-pushed to get a connection like that.
>
>
Some of my favourite street names are in Leeds. I'm a great fan of the
less imaginative ones; Street Lane and Avenue Hill are I think the
best. Are there any others?
Also, I do like the habit of naming whole swathes of streets the same,
Harold Ave, Harold View, Harold Mount etc. The only honest one is
probably the one called Terrace. You never got this darn sarf, and
being able to say "I'm in the Weltons" (/Harolds/Bayswaters or
whatever) is a quite useful way of referring to a sort of pocket-sized
area - much more descriptive than 'Hyde Park' or 'Harehills', yet not
as precise as a street name.
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Steve
(hannah d) wrote:
>Also, I do like the habit of naming whole swathes of streets the same,
>Harold Ave, Harold View, Harold Mount etc.
I lived in Harold Walk in 1983! Just thought I'd share that.
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HydeParky wrote in message <8rv2ba$6tk$1...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>...
>
>Dr Drew <dr...@comp.leeds.ac.uk> wrote in message
>news:slrn8u3at...@cslin-gps.comp...
>> I've recently been told that a square mile of Harehills, Leeds, is the
>
>Still, there is a road in London called Seething Wells, named after the
>local cess-pit. And ex-Leeds based poet/ranter, Seething Wells, named
>himself after the road. I think even James Burke would be hard-pushed to
get
>a connection like that.
>
best is some smart alec who manged to get the road
leading to a police station here in Sheffield named
Letsbe Avenue!
Richard Alderton
hannah d
I've lived on Harold Terrace, Harold Walk, Harold View and
Harold Avenue. At one point I was trying to collect the full
set. I think it was 31 Harold Walk, but I could be mistaken...
Steve
(hannah d) wrote:
>Steve <black...@steve-fleischer.net> said:
>
>> On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 14:50:48 +0100 (BST), han...@comp.leeds.ac.uk
>> (hannah d) wrote:
>>
>> >Also, I do like the habit of naming whole swathes of streets the same,
>> >Harold Ave, Harold View, Harold Mount etc.
>>
>> I lived in Harold Walk in 1983! Just thought I'd share that.
>>
>
>I've lived on Harold Terrace, Harold Walk, Harold View and
>Harold Avenue. At one point I was trying to collect the full
>set. I think it was 31 Harold Walk, but I could be mistaken...
We were at 15 - a few doors down from the chippy on the opposite
corner.
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Andrew Harrison
han...@comp.leeds.ac.uk wrote:
> Some of my favourite street names are in Leeds. I'm a great fan of the
> less imaginative ones; Street Lane and Avenue Hill are I think the
> best. Are there any others?
Go into south Leeds and you get Easy Road, Domestic Street, Intake Lane
and the famous Ingram Distributor.
When I worked in the TIC at Weymouth, some Americans came to our office
and told us that some friends of theirs were also in town, staying in a
hotel in a road called 'Helmsford Tree'. It was only after much
deliberation that it turned out to be Chelmsford St, the sign having
been 'altered' by some urchins.
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Sean Emmott
hannah d wrote in message ...
<<snip>>
>Some of my favourite street names are in Leeds. I'm a great fan of the
>less imaginative ones; Street Lane and Avenue Hill are I think the
>best. Are there any others?
In 'ull we have the Avenues. they are imaginatively named as 1st Avenue,
2nd Avenue etc. So you end up writing addresses as 14 14th Avenue. Handy
that. We tend to add a "times" sign so it reads 14x14th Avenue. Even
better the number of an Avenue bears no relation to its position relative to
other Avenues, so 2nd Avenue can be right next to 29th Avenue for instance.
I can never remember which one is which and if I ever get my hands on the
fool whose idea this was...
<<snip>>
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Peter Hill
"Dr Drew" <dr...@comp.leeds.ac.uk> wrote in message
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> I've recently been told that a square mile of Harehills, Leeds, is the
> back-to-backs. Is this true? Seems a little unbelievable to me when I
> think of the rabbit-warrens in cities such as Lisbon - but the source
> was pretty trustworthy. Can anyone confirm this?
>
> "For a guaranteed icebreaker at parties, climb on a table and
> fart - loudly, obviously and with a happy smile on your face"
> http://surf.to/drews.site
> Real e-mail address: polaw{little snail}leeds.ac.uk
I think that it was common practise at the time The Harolds were built, was
to name them after the money man responsible for them, in this case, one
Harold Walmisley Esq. My late dad worked for him for many years as a painter
and decorator. There was also a builder's yard at the top of Cardigan Road,
(after Lord Cardigan of course, you know, he of wooly pully fame) also owned
by H W.
As a matter of interest, I used to be able to boast that I know evry street
in Leeds, but alas no more, they pulled it down a while ago now
Off for a jug of Joshua's finest now
All the best
Peter
Tez Burke
Sean Emmott <sean...@emmott.karoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In 'ull we have the Avenues. they are imaginatively named as 1st Avenue,
> 2nd Avenue etc. So you end up writing addresses as 14 14th Avenue. Handy
> that. We tend to add a "times" sign so it reads 14x14th Avenue. Even
> better the number of an Avenue bears no relation to its position relative
to
> other Avenues, so 2nd Avenue can be right next to 29th Avenue for
instance.
> I can never remember which one is which and if I ever get my hands on the
> fool whose idea this was...
Only other place I've seen this illogical system in Yorkshire is Hightown in
Cleckheaton, where the Avenues run something like "First" to "Fourteenth"
and don't appear to follow any particular order. They don't use the times
sign there though.
Other favourite street names of mine include Fred's Place in Laisterdyke,
Egypt in Cottingley, Football in Yeadon, Der Street in Todmorden (what is a
"der" anyway?) and York's ever-popular Whip-ma Whop-ma Gate.
Tez,
who lives much nearer to Fanny Street (BD18) than Dick Lane (BD3) in case
anyone's wondering.
Martin Underwood
news:8rvcts$7bb$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> In article <slrn8u67lm...@cslin-gps.comp>,
> han...@comp.leeds.ac.uk wrote:
>
> When I worked in the TIC at Weymouth, some Americans came to our office
> and told us that some friends of theirs were also in town, staying in a
> hotel in a road called 'Helmsford Tree'. It was only after much
> deliberation that it turned out to be Chelmsford St, the sign having
> been 'altered' by some urchins.
In Ruth Rendell's latest book, "Harm Done" (dramatised on ITV tomorrow), a
housing estate that features prominently has all its streets named after
Shakespearean characters. Inevitably there's a "Puck Street" which the
locals are forever modifying by means of a very small amount of white paint
;-)
Apparently in London, there used to be (before the prissy Victorians took
offence) a street called Gropecunt Alley!
In Farnham (Hampshire) there's a street near the town centre called Dogflud
Way. This always conjours up images of incontinent canines. I dread to think
how the name arose. Anyone got any ideas?
David Hughes
>
>Other favourite street names of mine include Fred's Place in Laisterdyke,
>Egypt in Cottingley, Football in Yeadon, Der Street in Todmorden (what is a
>"der" anyway?) and York's ever-popular Whip-ma Whop-ma Gate.
>
It must be hard to beat the Land of Green Ginger in 'ull.... Still, since
moving down sarf I've just got the exciting 'Straight Road' in Colchester in
its place. And yes, it is. Straight.
Sean Emmott
Tez Burke wrote in message <8rvkt6$ihkqr$1...@ID-38066.news.cis.dfn.de>...
<<big snip>>
>Tez,
>who lives much nearer to Fanny Street (BD18) than Dick Lane (BD3) in case
>anyone's wondering.
My brother-in-law lives just around the corner from ST, Margaret's Close and
St. Margaret's Avenue.
"Is she now?" I said.
No-one laughed.
~m.
: I think that it was common practise at the time The Harolds were built, was
: to name them after the money man responsible for them...
Well, I`m blowed. I never thought that was the reason - it adds a whole
new dimension to the history of that little pocket of LS6. I was under
the impression that the housing around there was put up by the council,
and they just had a good naming scheme (for once). So, who were Messers
Hessle, Welton, Pearson and Kelsall then (amongst other obviously wealthy
local worthies)?
~m, quite pleased to know this little bit of information.
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hannah d
> Peter Hill (foxglo...@btinternet.com) wrote: : I think that it
> was common practise at the time The Harolds were built, was : to name
> them after the money man responsible for them...
>
> Well, I`m blowed. I never thought that was the reason - it adds a
> whole new dimension to the history of that little pocket of LS6. I
> was under the impression that the housing around there was put up by
> the council, and they just had a good naming scheme (for once). So,
> who were Messers Hessle, Welton, Pearson and Kelsall then (amongst
> other obviously wealthy local worthies)?
>
> ~m, quite pleased to know this little bit of information.
Hessle and Welton are both areas of Hull, I think. There
are a few bits round there that my mate from Hull recognised
as being Hull places anyway.
Dr Drew
> Other favourite street names of mine include Fred's Place in Laisterdyke,
> Egypt in Cottingley, Football in Yeadon, Der Street in Todmorden (what is a
> "der" anyway?) and York's ever-popular Whip-ma Whop-ma Gate.
Whip-ma-Whop-ma Gate's sign is nearly as long as the street itself,
ISTR.
mark.t...@ntlworld.com
<burke...@lineone.net> wrote:
>
>Sean Emmott <sean...@emmott.karoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:8rvgvq$c5i$1...@supernews.com...
>> In 'ull we have the Avenues. they are imaginatively named as 1st Avenue,
>> 2nd Avenue etc. So you end up writing addresses as 14 14th Avenue. Handy
>> that. We tend to add a "times" sign so it reads 14x14th Avenue. Even
>> better the number of an Avenue bears no relation to its position relative
>to
>> other Avenues, so 2nd Avenue can be right next to 29th Avenue for
>instance.
>> I can never remember which one is which and if I ever get my hands on the
>> fool whose idea this was...
>
>Only other place I've seen this illogical system in Yorkshire is Hightown in
>Cleckheaton, where the Avenues run something like "First" to "Fourteenth"
>and don't appear to follow any particular order. They don't use the times
>sign there though.
Thats "Windybank" estate you're thinking of there Tez.
>
>Other favourite street names of mine include Fred's Place in Laisterdyke,
>Egypt in Cottingley, Football in Yeadon, Der Street in Todmorden (what is a
>"der" anyway?) and York's ever-popular Whip-ma Whop-ma Gate.
>
Not to mention Jericho, the top end of Thornton.
>Tez,
>who lives much nearer to Fanny Street (BD18) than Dick Lane (BD3) in case
>anyone's wondering.
>
>
Would have thought you were somewhere between the two. :)
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> Whip-ma-Whop-ma Gate's sign is nearly as long as the street itself,
> ISTR.
A predecessor of the current sign found its way into the room of an
squaintance at York University in about 1992. I notice that since then
they've embedded the sign more securely into the wall.
I wonder if anyone knows of the sign's whereabouts.
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Brian Smith
(hannah d) wrote:
>
>Some of my favourite street names are in Leeds. I'm a great fan of the
>less imaginative ones; Street Lane and Avenue Hill are I think the
>best. Are there any others?
>
Here, in suburb of Toronto, we have the wonderfully named:-
Deviation Way.
I've never dared to try and find out it's origins.
Cynic is an idealists name for a realist.
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Colin Blackburn
<slrn8u67lm...@cslin-gps.comp>, hannah d wrote:
> Some of my favourite street names are in Leeds. I'm a great fan of the
> less imaginative ones; Street Lane and Avenue Hill are I think the
> best. Are there any others?
Dunno about Leeds but when I lived in Manc I used to regularly pass by a
Park Drive on the way into Stockport, I always wanted to live at 10 Park
Drive.
Colin - back from Spain where it's warm!
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~m.
: Go into south Leeds and you get Easy Road, Domestic Street, Intake Lane
: and the famous Ingram Distributor.
I've quite always likened the sound of Armley Gyratory to something
one would find in a porn film. We also have Sweet Street (the more sticky
neighbor of easy road), Jack Lane (an entire road that is supported on
car jacks) and of course, the Middleton Circus (a big top that has some
really strange looking clowns in).
~m.
James Graham
martin.u...@virgin.net (Martin Underwood) wrote:
> In Ruth Rendell's latest book, "Harm Done" (dramatised on ITV
> tomorrow), a
> housing estate that features prominently has all its streets named after
> Shakespearean characters. Inevitably there's a "Puck Street" which the
> locals are forever modifying by means of a very small amount of white
> paint
> ;-)
Of course, everyone here is probably aware of what the road on which most
of Manchester's Gay Village is situated - CANAL STREET - regularly gets
defaced to read.
James
nick odell
<phys...@ermine.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>Dunno about Leeds but when I lived in Manc I used to regularly pass by a
>Park Drive on the way into Stockport, I always wanted to live at 10 Park
>Drive.
>
When you lived in Huddersfield, did you have any contact with the
Fanny Moors?
Nick
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H H Chau
> hotel in a road called 'Helmsford Tree'. It was only after much
> deliberation that it turned out to be Chelmsford St, the sign having
Talking about a little bit of white paint. When I first arrived in Leeds,
I was surprised to learn "PAMPART POAD" along Woodhouse Lane. Another time
was a bit black paint, I saw another sign telling "HYDE PARK CLOSED" along
Hyde Park Road.
Cheers
Hau Hing
TXXT123
road,BLESSYOU!!!
bigegg
mi...@jeamland.org (~m.) wrote:
> the Middleton Circus (a big top that has some
> really strange looking clowns in).
>
> ~m.
I resemble that remark :.)
There's also Acre Circus, and Belle Isle Circus.
Curiously, these one way streets/roundabouts are all the sites of old
pitshafts. Anyone know of any other streets called 'circus' and are they
the sites of old pitshafts?
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bigegg
txx...@aol.com (TXXT123) wrote:
> then if you have a skin complaint there is balm road,how about pepper
> road,BLESSYOU!!!
New Lane, in Middleton, is actually the oldest road in Middleton (shows
on a 1760 map, when there's nowt else but fields and farms.)
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A pal of mine lived in Hamburg in the 70's as a lodger with a Frau
Lesser. The street they lived in was (is) called Lessers Passage!
I peed myself at that one :-)
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