Public transport - why?
Peter Hucker
For a laugh (and because they just built a station next to my house) I decided to check the feasability of a train to work. It takes twice as long and costs twice as much as by car. (1.5 hours instead of 45 mins and ￜ16.50 instead of ￜ7.50)
Silly treehuggers.
Is this the same throughout the country? I'm in central Scotland.
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Paul Weaver
>
> Silly treehuggers.
>
> Is this the same throughout the country? I'm in central Scotland.
Nope. Train for me takes 1h05 - 1h20 depending on when I leave, car
takes 1h25 in good traffic
I also get to watch TV/read a book/reply to trolls while I'm on the
train. Either that or work, and hence leave early.
Also get to go to the pub after work
Cost wise train costs about £13 a day, car costs £11 a day in petrol
alone -- £45 a day in inland revenue mileage.
Sam Nelson
August West <aug...@kororaa.com> writes:
> For me, train takes 20 minutes, door to door; the car 45-60. Cost of
> train: about fiver; just parking the car costs rather more than that.
Bus to work and back would be about GBP2.50 each way (depends on the driver
and which buses turn up). They've just allowed staff to have the student-
discount card, which gets half-fare on some buses. Working out the bus-fare
is extremely complicated and effectively non-deterministic. I can't help
thinking that the bus company must like it that way.
Car takes 12-18 minutes for 6.8 miles (excluding outliers like snow/ice/fog
and obstruction by accidents) which is a little bit more than a litre of fuel
for the trip. Car-parking at works costs ~50p/day. Considering I have the
car anyway, the timing and arithmetic is pretty clear.
> I'm in central Scotland, too.
Likewise. Still getting to work by car. If I need to do _anything_ other
than just go to work and come back (bit of shopping, etc.), which I do maybe
one day a week) bus is a no-hoper.
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Bing Trotsky
> Paul Weaver <use...@isorox.co.uk> writes:
>
> > On 24 Sep, 21:57, "Peter Hucker" <n...@spam.com> wrote:
> >> It's just not viable.
> >>
> >> For a laugh (and because they just built a station next to my house) I decided to check the feasability of a train to work. It takes twice as long and costs twice as much as by car. (1.5 hours instead of 45 mins and 16.50 instead of 7.50)
> >>
> >> Silly treehuggers.
> >>
> >> Is this the same throughout the country? I'm in central Scotland.
> >
> > Nope. Train for me takes 1h05 - 1h20 depending on when I leave, car
> > takes 1h25 in good traffic
>
> train: about fiver; just parking the car costs rather more than that.
>
>
I'm in central London. A 45 minute journey by car I can probably walk in
15 minutes.
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Roland Perry
2008, Sam Nelson <s...@ssrl.org.uk> remarked:
>If I need to do _anything_ other than just go to work and come back
>(bit of shopping, etc.), which I do maybe one day a week) bus is a
>no-hoper.
I can travel around on the bus all day for a shade over £2 (because I
have a pre-pay card) or £3 on a turn-up-and-go basis. Parking at the
station is £8 per day and you'd be lucky to find any parking in my city
centre (Nottingham) elsewhere for less than £2 per hour. I work from
home, and the parking there is free.
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Roland Perry
Sam Nelson
August West <aug...@kororaa.com> writes:
> s...@ssrl.org.uk (Sam Nelson) writes:
>
> >> I'm in central Scotland, too.
> >
> > Likewise. Still getting to work by car. If I need to do _anything_
> > other than just go to work and come back (bit of shopping, etc.),
> > which I do maybe one day a week) bus is a no-hoper.
>
> your pressures are almost entirely the reverse of a town-worker like
> me.
Pfft. I drive past a city twice a day!
> For example, my office contains about 100 engineers, but there are
> only 5 parking spaces for the two floors we are on. The ank & transport
> company on the 4 floors above have the same ratio of staff: parking
> spaces. But we are very near shops, etc.
That ank business, it's a killer.
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SAm.
Tom Barry
>
>> For example, my office contains about 100 engineers, but there are
>> only 5 parking spaces for the two floors we are on. The ank & transport
>> company on the 4 floors above have the same ratio of staff: parking
>> spaces. But we are very near shops, etc.
>
> That ank business, it's a killer.
Tank? It's one way to turn rush hour into crush hour, I suppose. The
mpg's not brilliant.
Tom
Roland Perry
Sep 2008, August West <aug...@kororaa.com> remarked:
>
>Take your pick as to the most likely!
Angel Trains is owned by the Royal Bank of Scotland; HSBC Rail (formerly
Eversholt Leasing) by err, HSBC; and Porterbrook by Abbey National; so
that's three possible "bank and transport" companies.
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Roland Perry
David Livingstone
<rol...@perry.co.uk> writes
>Angel Trains is owned by the Royal Bank of Scotland
They sold Angel Trains for £3.6 billion to a group lead by Babcock &
Brown
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7452205.stm
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David
Rusty Hinge
long-distance coach is half fare.
Stopped using a car...
Motorbike for fun, though.
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Rusty Hinge
from August West <aug...@kororaa.com> contains these words:
> Ah, I misrepresented (missed out a comma): it's one bank, and one
> transport company. And it's none of the banks menitoned above, either.
> The transport company does trams.
So does Banksy
Roland Perry
2008, David Livingstone <numb...@airds.co.uk> remarked:
>>Angel Trains is owned by the Royal Bank of Scotland
>
>They sold Angel Trains for £3.6 billion to a group lead by Babcock &
>Brown
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7452205.stm
Someone needs to update wikipedia.
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Roland Perry
Fevric J Glandules
> Someone needs to update wikipedia.
And, in other news...
--
One way ticket from Mornington Crescent to Tannhauser Gate please.
Adrian
were saying:
> Someone needs to update wikipedia.
Don't let us stop you.
Roland Perry
Sep 2008, Adrian <tooma...@gmail.com> remarked:
>> Someone needs to update wikipedia.
>
>Don't let us stop you.
I may do that, now the deal seems be certain; although it might be
quicker if someone more used to the wikipedia runes did it.
http://www.angeltrains.co.uk/press/release.aspx?Id=703
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Roland Perry
Willy Eckerslyke
> Bus to work and back would be about GBP2.50 each way (depends on the driver
> and which buses turn up). They've just allowed staff to have the student-
> discount card, which gets half-fare on some buses.
Don't suppose you have an easy link to anything about that, do you? It
could be worth suggesting hereabouts.
Sam Nelson
It's all a bit haphazard at the moment, because apparently it's only just
happened. You go to
https://www.firstgroup.com/students/scotlandeast/idcard.php
and answer `Staff' to the full/part-time student question. You also have
to lie about which year of study you're in. That's as much detail as I
have, right now.
--
SAm.
Willy Eckerslyke
Ta. By the time I get around to doing anything about it, they may have
got it a little more organised.
Willy Eckerslyke
> Sam Nelson wrote:
>> In article <6k3jbmF...@mid.individual.net>,
>> Willy Eckerslyke <oss108...@bangor.ac.uk> writes:
>>> Sam Nelson wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bus to work and back would be about GBP2.50 each way (depends on the
>>>> driver
>>>> and which buses turn up). They've just allowed staff to have the
>>>> student-
>>>> discount card, which gets half-fare on some buses.
On the other hand...
I just checked and Arriva's student discounts only apply to season
tickets, so would be less appealing. Never mind.
Steve Firth
> I went to Birmingham yesterday on the train. It was fine, if a bit full. But
> boy, isn't New Street a shithole?
Indeed, but outside near the Royal Mail depot is an extremely fine
Indian Restaurant with a decent wine list.
OTOH, when a colleague of mine was crossing from the station to the
restaurant someone bashed him over the head with a brick and stole his
laptop.
Bing Trotsky
says...
>
> I went to Birmingham yesterday on the train. It was fine, if a bit full.
That's about the nicest thing I've ever read about Birmingham. IMO it's a
complete shithole and a bit full.
> But boy, isn't New Street a shithole?
>
It's in Birmingham, what do you expect?
Could be worse though. You might have had to go to Grimsby.
Chris Eilbeck
> I went to Birmingham yesterday on the train. It was fine, if a bit
> full. But boy, isn't New Street a shithole?
It's better than it used to be but I guess it'll be way better when
they've spent 550 million on it.
Chris
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Sam Nelson
says...
50 million for a thermonuclear device of some sort, and half a billion
for the rebuild?
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Steve Firth
> Huge <Hu...@nowhere.much.invalid> writes:
>
> > I went to Birmingham yesterday on the train. It was fine, if a bit
> > full. But boy, isn't New Street a shithole?
>
> It's better than it used to be but I guess it'll be way better when
> they've spent 550 million on it.
I'm still laughing at:
"this iconic new gateway to Birmingham will cement the city's place as
one of Europe's style capitals"
and
"will put Birmingham in the same league as architectural giants like
Barcelona and London"
No, please, make them stop.
Peter Hucker
> In article <87ej38s...@news2.kororaa.com>, aug...@kororaa.com says...
>> Paul Weaver <use...@isorox.co.uk> writes:
>>
>> > On 24 Sep, 21:57, "Peter Hucker" <n...@spam.com> wrote:
>> >> It's just not viable.
>> >>
>> >> For a laugh (and because they just built a station next to my house) I decided to check the feasability of a train to work. It takes twice as long and costs twice as much as by car. (1.5 hours instead of 45 mins and 16.50 instead of 7.50)
>> >>
>> >> Silly treehuggers.
>> >>
>> >> Is this the same throughout the country? I'm in central Scotland.
>> >
>> > Nope. Train for me takes 1h05 - 1h20 depending on when I leave, car
>> > takes 1h25 in good traffic
>>
>> For me, train takes 20 minutes, door to door; the car 45-60. Cost of
>> train: about fiver; just parking the car costs rather more than that.
>>
>> I'm in central Scotland, too.
>>
>
> I'm in central London. A 45 minute journey by car I can probably walk in
> 15 minutes.
I think the problem is my journey is not in line with the rails. I have to change twice (the train not my clothes).
I have an LPG vehicle which is cheaper, and I drive in a non standard way which is faster.
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Chris Eilbeck
Well we'll never get anything built in Brum like the TGV station
outside Lyon. The Victorian Society were on the local news earlier
opposing a horrible concrete tower block being pulled down and
replaced with a metal and glass one.
Chris
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Chris Eilbeck
Bing Trotsky
says...
The trick is that they are doing the rebuild in Tamworth.
bof
<no...@spam.com> writes
>I drive in a non standard way which is faster.
Ooh, do tell more
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Rusty Hinge 2
from Bing Trotsky <ericj...@gmail.com> contains these words:
> In article <gbinl4$5ot$1...@anubis.demon.co.uk>, Hu...@nowhere.much.invalid
> says...
> >
> > I went to Birmingham yesterday on the train. It was fine, if a bit full.
> That's about the nicest thing I've ever read about Birmingham. IMO it's a
> complete shithole and a bit full.
> > But boy, isn't New Street a shithole?
> >
> It's in Birmingham, what do you expect?
> Could be worse though. You might have had to go to Grimsby.
When in Birmingham visit the Anchor at Digbeth, and find an imposing
selection of cask-conditioned ales and beers.
Puts B'ham in a whole new category - i.e.: Must Go There.
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They don't combine the words 'Bull' and 'Ring' for nothing innit.
Bing Trotsky
says...
> On 2008-09-26, Bing Trotsky <ericj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In article <gbinl4$5ot$1...@anubis.demon.co.uk>, Hu...@nowhere.much.invalid
> > says...
> >>
>
> horrid.
>
It's the combination of the biting see breeze direct from Scandanavia,
the smell of rotting fish (though not from Scandanavia), and the added
bonus of the entire contents of just about every sewer in the Midlands or
Yorkshire emptying into the Humber to wash ashore at Cleethorpes.
Peter Hucker
> In message <op.uh3ox...@fx62.mshome.net>, Peter Hucker
> <no...@spam.com> writes
>> I drive in a non standard way which is faster.
>
> Ooh, do tell more
Just take the highway code and burn half of it. Then remove all respect for other road users.
Her hair glistened in the rain like nose hair after a sneeze.
Peter Hucker
> On or about Sat, 27 Sep 2008 19:15:05 +0100, Peter Hucker is alleged
> to have written:
>
>> On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:40:24 +0100, bof <nothi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In message <op.uh3ox...@fx62.mshome.net>, Peter Hucker
>>> <no...@spam.com> writes
>>>> I drive in a non standard way which is faster.
>>>
>>> Ooh, do tell more
>>
>> Just take the highway code and burn half of it. Then remove all respect for other road users.
>
> I thought that was the standard way!
> New things every day!
There are far too many law abiding citizens around here. People who sit at red lights when there is nothing else in the way!
Jesus saw a crowd chasing down a woman to stone her and approached them. "What's going on here, anyway?" he asked.
"This woman was found committing adultery and the law says we should stone her!" one of the crowd responded.
"Wait," yelled Jesus, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."
Suddenly, a stone was thrown from out of the sky, and knocked the woman on the side of her head.
"Aw, c'mon, Dad . . . " Jesus cried, "I'm trying to make a point here!"
Peter Hucker
> On or about Sat, 27 Sep 2008 19:15:05 +0100, Peter Hucker is alleged
> to have written:
>
>> On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:40:24 +0100, bof <nothi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In message <op.uh3ox...@fx62.mshome.net>, Peter Hucker
>>> <no...@spam.com> writes
>>>> I drive in a non standard way which is faster.
>>>
>>> Ooh, do tell more
>>
>> Just take the highway code and burn half of it. Then remove all respect for other road users.
>
> I thought that was the standard way!
> New things every day!
FUCK OFF TROLL!!!
What the hell is the point in making replies go to another group which nobody here reads?
Jesus saw a crowd chasing down a woman to stone her and approached them. "What's going on here, anyway?" he asked.
Peter Hucker
> On or about Sat, 27 Sep 2008 19:15:05 +0100, Peter Hucker is alleged
> to have written:
>
>> On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:40:24 +0100, bof <nothi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In message <op.uh3ox...@fx62.mshome.net>, Peter Hucker
>>> <no...@spam.com> writes
>>>> I drive in a non standard way which is faster.
>>>
>>> Ooh, do tell more
>>
>> Just take the highway code and burn half of it. Then remove all respect for other road users.
>
> I thought that was the standard way!
> New things every day!
FUCK OFF TROLL!!!
What the hell is the point in making replies go to another group which nobody here reads?
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Peter Hucker
> On or about Sat, 27 Sep 2008 19:15:05 +0100, Peter Hucker is alleged
> to have written:
>
>> On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:40:24 +0100, bof <nothi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In message <op.uh3ox...@fx62.mshome.net>, Peter Hucker
>>> <no...@spam.com> writes
>>>> I drive in a non standard way which is faster.
>>>
>>> Ooh, do tell more
>>
>> Just take the highway code and burn half of it. Then remove all respect for other road users.
>
> I thought that was the standard way!
> New things every day!
FUCK OFF TROLL!!!
What the hell is the point in making replies go to another group which nobody here reads?
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Peter Hucker
> On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 20:09:54 +0100, Owen Wilson wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> Owen.
>
> How much?
>
> And why did you set FU without announcing it?
FU are for trolls.
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