The 4th Plinth at Trafalgar Square
Will van Zwanenberg
At statue of whom should, iyho, occupy the 4th plinth in Trafalgar Square?
I personally am undecided but can say that a shortlist ought to comprise of
the following persons:
1. Isaac Newton
2. William Shakespear
3. Charles Dickens
4. Humphrey Davy
5. Francis Bacon (The Scientist and not the Artist).
6. George Harrison
7. Lord Rumford
8. John Dalton
9. Ernest Rutherford
10. Charles Darwin
11. Michael Faraday
12. Samuel Taylor Coleridge
13. Keats
14. John Ruskin
15. Emily Pankhurst
16. Marie Stopes
17. Robert Boyle
18. John Donne
19. Edward Elgar
Rafal Heydel-Mankoo
Will van Zwanenberg wrote:
>
> Ok, opinions please ...
>
> At statue of whom should, iyho, occupy the 4th plinth in Trafalgar Square?
>
> I personally am undecided but can say that a shortlist ought to comprise of
> the following persons:
>
> 1. Isaac Newton
> 2. William Shakespear
Already commemorated in Leicester Square and Westminster Abbey
> 3. Charles Dickens
> 4. Humphrey Davy
> 5. Francis Bacon (The Scientist and not the Artist).
Already commemorated in South Square, Gray's Inn.
> 6. George Harrison
The Beatle?
> 7. Lord Rumford
> 8. John Dalton
> 9. Ernest Rutherford
> 10. Charles Darwin
> 11. Michael Faraday
> 12. Samuel Taylor Coleridge
> 13. Keats
> 14. John Ruskin
> 15. Emily Pankhurst
> 16. Marie Stopes
> 17. Robert Boyle
> 18. John Donne
> 19. Edward Elgar
Of the above I think Faraday, Newton, Elgar and Darwin are the best
choices.
That being said I personally feel that the plinth should remain empty
until the death of HM The Queen (whose accession we celebrate today,
February 6th). Upon her death we should erect a statue in her honour.
She is after all the longest reigning monarch of the century and may
well become the longest reigning monarch in our history.
Similarly it should be remembered that George IV and James II also have
their statues in the square.
Rafal Heydel-Mankoo
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Alistair Mann
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> Ok, opinions please ...
>
> At statue of whom should, iyho, occupy the 4th plinth in Trafalgar Square?
>
> I personally am undecided but can say that a shortlist ought to comprise
of
> the following persons:
Diana Spencer, patron saint of blonde bimbettes and assorted other slappers.
Plus there should be an arty pile of pebbles, gravel and stones just in
front. Plus a loudspeaker for her mouth that repeats "Jehovah!"
--
Alistair Mann
uk.local.london website at http://www.london-online.org.uk
Alistair Mann
news:389E002E...@home.com...
>
>
> Will van Zwanenberg wrote:
> >
> > Ok, opinions please ...
> >
> > At statue of whom should, iyho, occupy the 4th plinth in Trafalgar
Square?
> >
> That being said I personally feel that the plinth should remain empty
> until the death of HM The Queen (whose accession we celebrate today,
> February 6th). Upon her death we should erect a statue in her honour.
> She is after all the longest reigning monarch of the century ...<snip>
... all 37 days of it!
Sue_R
Will van Zwanenberg <will@YOUR_CLOTHINGwillz.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> At statue of whom should, iyho, occupy the 4th plinth in Trafalgar Square?
I'm sure Tony Blah has reserved it already...
--
Sue
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Rafal Heydel-Mankoo
Alistair Mann wrote:
>
> Rafal Heydel-Mankoo <raf...@home.com> wrote in message
> news:389E002E...@home.com...
> >
> >
> > Will van Zwanenberg wrote:
> > >
> > > Ok, opinions please ...
> > >
> > > At statue of whom should, iyho, occupy the 4th plinth in Trafalgar
> Square?
> > >
> <snip>
>
> > That being said I personally feel that the plinth should remain empty
> > until the death of HM The Queen (whose accession we celebrate today,
> > February 6th). Upon her death we should erect a statue in her honour.
> > She is after all the longest reigning monarch of the century ...<snip>
>
> ... all 37 days of it!
>
Alistair, don't get me started! You should know that we are still in the
last year of the 20th century! 2001 is the first year of the 21st
century.
Rafal Heydel-Mankoo
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culture, architecture, humour, economy, tourism, political make-up,
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Londoners.
Alistair Mann
>
>
> Alistair Mann wrote:
> >
> > Rafal Heydel-Mankoo <raf...@home.com> wrote in message
> > news:389E002E...@home.com...
> > >
> > >
> > > Will van Zwanenberg wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ok, opinions please ...
> > > >
> > > > At statue of whom should, iyho, occupy the 4th plinth in Trafalgar
> > Square?
> > > >
> > <snip>
> >
> > > That being said I personally feel that the plinth should remain empty
> > > until the death of HM The Queen (whose accession we celebrate today,
> > > February 6th). Upon her death we should erect a statue in her honour.
> > > She is after all the longest reigning monarch of the century ...<snip>
> >
> > ... all 37 days of it!
>
> Alistair, don't get me started! You should know that we are still in the
> last year of the 20th century! 2001 is the first year of the 21st
> century.
Nope: popular mandate says it has ended already, at 23:59:60 (sic) on
31Dec1999. Bad luck! Try again in 2099 ;-)
>kat<
<raf...@home.com> writes
>
>
>Alistair Mann wrote:
>>
>> Rafal Heydel-Mankoo <raf...@home.com> wrote in message
>> news:389E002E...@home.com...
>> >
>> >
>> > Will van Zwanenberg wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Ok, opinions please ...
>> > >
>> > > At statue of whom should, iyho, occupy the 4th plinth in Trafalgar
>> Square?
>> > >
>> <snip>
>>
>> > That being said I personally feel that the plinth should remain empty
>> > until the death of HM The Queen (whose accession we celebrate today,
>> > February 6th). Upon her death we should erect a statue in her honour.
>> > She is after all the longest reigning monarch of the century ...<snip>
>>
>> ... all 37 days of it!
>>
>
>Alistair, don't get me started! You should know that we are still in the
>last year of the 20th century! 2001 is the first year of the 21st
>century.
--
>Kat<
©
>kat<
writes
>
>Will van Zwanenberg <will@YOUR_CLOTHINGwillz.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:01bf70ea$5f0deeb0$93db989e@thinpad600...
>>
>> At statue of whom should, iyho, occupy the 4th plinth in Trafalgar Square?
>
--
>Kat<
©
Rafal Heydel-Mankoo
Alistair Mann wrote:
>
> Rafal Heydel-Mankoo <raf...@home.com> wrote in message
> news:389E0F36...@home.com...
> >
> >
> > Alistair Mann wrote:
> > >
> > > Rafal Heydel-Mankoo <raf...@home.com> wrote in message
> > > news:389E002E...@home.com...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Will van Zwanenberg wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Ok, opinions please ...
> > > > >
> > > > > At statue of whom should, iyho, occupy the 4th plinth in Trafalgar
> > > Square?
> > > > >
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > > > That being said I personally feel that the plinth should remain empty
> > > > until the death of HM The Queen (whose accession we celebrate today,
> > > > February 6th). Upon her death we should erect a statue in her honour.
> > > > She is after all the longest reigning monarch of the century ...<snip>
> > >
> > > ... all 37 days of it!
> >
> > Alistair, don't get me started! You should know that we are still in the
> > last year of the 20th century! 2001 is the first year of the 21st
> > century.
>
> Nope: popular mandate says it has ended already, at 23:59:60 (sic) on
> 31Dec1999. Bad luck! Try again in 2099 ;-)
You damn populists! Always catering to the uneducated plebs. I for one
refuse to abide by the wishes of the Great Unwashed. We are in the final
months of the Twentieth Century and I will not hear otherwise! :-)
Rafal Heydel-Mankoo
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Rafal Heydel-Mankoo
">kat<" wrote:
>
> In article <389E0F36...@home.com>, Rafal Heydel-Mankoo
> <raf...@home.com> writes
> >
> >
> >Alistair Mann wrote:
> >>
> >> Rafal Heydel-Mankoo <raf...@home.com> wrote in message
> >> news:389E002E...@home.com...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Will van Zwanenberg wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Ok, opinions please ...
> >> > >
> >> > > At statue of whom should, iyho, occupy the 4th plinth in Trafalgar
> >> Square?
> >> > >
> >> <snip>
> >>
> >> > That being said I personally feel that the plinth should remain empty
> >> > until the death of HM The Queen (whose accession we celebrate today,
> >> > February 6th). Upon her death we should erect a statue in her honour.
> >> > She is after all the longest reigning monarch of the century ...<snip>
> >>
> >> ... all 37 days of it!
> >>
> >
> >Alistair, don't get me started! You should know that we are still in the
> >last year of the 20th century! 2001 is the first year of the 21st
> >century.
> At last, something upon which we can both agree...
Kat,
Have we disagreed in the past? I had no idea. You have my sincere
aplogies. I always thought you were a sound person. Sorry to hear that
your views are wrong. :-)
Seriously though, I did not know I had said anything on here which
merited disagreement.
Rafal.
Telegraph
<will@YOUR_CLOTHINGwillz.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>Ok, opinions please ...
>
>At statue of whom should, iyho, occupy the 4th plinth in Trafalgar Square?
>
>I personally am undecided but can say that a shortlist ought to comprise of
>the following persons:
>
>1. Isaac Newton
>2. William Shakespear
>3. Charles Dickens
>4. Humphrey Davy
>5. Francis Bacon (The Scientist and not the Artist).
>6. George Harrison
>7. Lord Rumford
>8. John Dalton
>9. Ernest Rutherford
>10. Charles Darwin
>11. Michael Faraday
>12. Samuel Taylor Coleridge
>13. Keats
>14. John Ruskin
>15. Emily Pankhurst
>16. Marie Stopes
>17. Robert Boyle
>18. John Donne
>19. Edward Elgar
20. Will van Zwanenberg
(not necessarily a statue) :-)
---
Tel
Gott mit Uns
>kat<
<raf...@home.com> writes
>
>
>">kat<" wrote:
>>
>> In article <389E0F36...@home.com>, Rafal Heydel-Mankoo
>> <raf...@home.com> writes
>> >
>> >
>> >Alistair Mann wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Rafal Heydel-Mankoo <raf...@home.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:389E002E...@home.com...
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Ok, opinions please ...
>> >> > >
>> >> > > At statue of whom should, iyho, occupy the 4th plinth in Trafalgar
>> >> Square?
>> >> > >
>> >>
>> >> > That being said I personally feel that the plinth should remain empty
>> >> > until the death of HM The Queen (whose accession we celebrate today,
>> >> > February 6th). Upon her death we should erect a statue in her honour.
>> >> > She is after all the longest reigning monarch of the century ...<snip>
>> >>
>> >> ... all 37 days of it!
>> >>
>> >
>> >Alistair, don't get me started! You should know that we are still in the
>> >last year of the 20th century! 2001 is the first year of the 21st
>> >century.
>> At last, something upon which we can both agree...
>
>Kat,
>
>Have we disagreed in the past? I had no idea. You have my sincere
>aplogies. I always thought you were a sound person. Sorry to hear that
>your views are wrong. :-)
>
>Seriously though, I did not know I had said anything on here which
>merited disagreement.
Being a well-bred lady from the home-counties..... I rarely voice my
disagreement;)
--
>Kat<
©
>kat<
<tele...@ukgoatway.net> writes
>On Sun, 06 Feb 2000 22:40:08 GMT, "Will van Zwanenberg"
>
>>Ok, opinions please ...
>>
>>At statue of whom should, iyho, occupy the 4th plinth in Trafalgar Square?
>>
>>the following persons:
>>
>>1. Isaac Newton
>>2. William Shakespear
>>3. Charles Dickens
>>4. Humphrey Davy
>>5. Francis Bacon (The Scientist and not the Artist).
>>6. George Harrison
>>7. Lord Rumford
>>8. John Dalton
>>9. Ernest Rutherford
>>10. Charles Darwin
>>11. Michael Faraday
>>12. Samuel Taylor Coleridge
>>13. Keats
>>14. John Ruskin
>>15. Emily Pankhurst
>>16. Marie Stopes
>>17. Robert Boyle
>>18. John Donne
>>19. Edward Elgar
>20. Will van Zwanenberg
>(not necessarily a statue) :-)
Taking part in various tableaux-vivants?
Lords Raglan/Cardigan/Kitchener, maybe?
--
>Kat<
©
Rafal Heydel-Mankoo
">kat<" wrote:
>
> In article <389E38EB...@home.com>, Rafal Heydel-Mankoo
> <raf...@home.com> writes
> >
> >
> >">kat<" wrote:
> >>
> >> In article <389E0F36...@home.com>, Rafal Heydel-Mankoo
> >> <raf...@home.com> writes
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Alistair Mann wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Rafal Heydel-Mankoo <raf...@home.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:389E002E...@home.com...
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Will van Zwanenberg wrote:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Ok, opinions please ...
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > At statue of whom should, iyho, occupy the 4th plinth in Trafalgar
> >> >> Square?
> >> >> > >
> >> >> <snip>
> >> >>
> >> >> > That being said I personally feel that the plinth should remain empty
> >> >> > until the death of HM The Queen (whose accession we celebrate today,
> >> >> > February 6th). Upon her death we should erect a statue in her honour.
> >> >> > She is after all the longest reigning monarch of the century ...<snip>
> >> >>
> >> >> ... all 37 days of it!
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >Alistair, don't get me started! You should know that we are still in the
> >> >last year of the 20th century! 2001 is the first year of the 21st
> >> >century.
> >> At last, something upon which we can both agree...
> >
> >Kat,
> >
> >Have we disagreed in the past? I had no idea. You have my sincere
> >aplogies. I always thought you were a sound person. Sorry to hear that
> >your views are wrong. :-)
> >
> >Seriously though, I did not know I had said anything on here which
> >merited disagreement.
> LOL
> Being a well-bred lady from the home-counties.....
I wasn't aware there were any left! ;-)
Rafal.
Mr Falafel
"Will van Zwanenberg" <will@YOUR_CLOTHINGwillz.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> Ok, opinions please ...
>
> At statue of whom should, iyho, occupy the 4th plinth in Trafalgar
Square?
>
It should be of a pint of ale.
Maybe some kind of fountain with London Pride constantly flowing into
cups for people to consume.
--
What if the hokey-pokey really IS what it's all about?
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Before you buy.
>kat<
<raf...@home.com> writes
>
>
>">kat<" wrote:
>>
>> In article <389E38EB...@home.com>, Rafal Heydel-Mankoo
>> <raf...@home.com> writes
>> >
>> >
>> >">kat<" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> In article <389E0F36...@home.com>, Rafal Heydel-Mankoo
>> >> <raf...@home.com> writes
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Alistair Mann wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Rafal Heydel-Mankoo <raf...@home.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:389E002E...@home.com...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Ok, opinions please ...
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > At statue of whom should, iyho, occupy the 4th plinth in Trafalgar
>> >> >> Square?
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > That being said I personally feel that the plinth should remain empty
>> >> >> > until the death of HM The Queen (whose accession we celebrate today,
>> >> >> > February 6th). Upon her death we should erect a statue in her honour.
>> >> >> > She is after all the longest reigning monarch of the century ...<snip>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ... all 37 days of it!
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >Alistair, don't get me started! You should know that we are still in the
>> >> >last year of the 20th century! 2001 is the first year of the 21st
>> >> >century.
>> >> At last, something upon which we can both agree...
>> >
>> >Kat,
>> >
>> >Have we disagreed in the past? I had no idea. You have my sincere
>> >aplogies. I always thought you were a sound person. Sorry to hear that
>> >your views are wrong. :-)
>> >
>> >Seriously though, I did not know I had said anything on here which
>> >merited disagreement.
>> LOL
>> Being a well-bred lady from the home-counties.....
>
>I wasn't aware there were any left! ;-)
--
>Kat<
©
tiny
> ">kat<" wrote:
> > In article <389E38EB...@home.com>, Rafal Heydel-Mankoo
> > <raf...@home.com> writes
> > >">kat<" wrote:
> > >> In article <389E0F36...@home.com>, Rafal Heydel-Mankoo
> > >> <raf...@home.com> writes
> > >> >Alistair Mann wrote:
> > >> >> Rafal Heydel-Mankoo <raf...@home.com> wrote in message
> > >> >> news:389E002E...@home.com...
> > >> >> > Will van Zwanenberg wrote:
> > >> >> > Upon her death we should erect a statue in her honour. She is
> > >> >> > after all the longest reigning monarch of the century ...<snip>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> ... all 37 days of it!
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >Alistair, don't get me started! You should know that we are still in
the
> > >> >last year of the 20th century! 2001 is the first year of the 21st
> > >> >century.
> > >> At last, something upon which we can both agree...
> > >
> > >Have we disagreed in the past? I had no idea. You have my sincere
> > >aplogies. I always thought you were a sound person. Sorry to hear that
> > >your views are wrong. :-)
> > >
> > >Seriously though, I did not know I had said anything on here which
> > >merited disagreement.
> > LOL
> > Being a well-bred lady from the home-counties.....
>
> I wasn't aware there were any left! ;-)
Breeding is something Essex ladies know about!
Will van Zwanenberg
Rafal Heydel-Mankoo <raf...@home.com> wrote in article
<389E002E...@home.com>...
>
>
> Will van Zwanenberg wrote:
> >
> > Ok, opinions please ...
> >
> > At statue of whom should, iyho, occupy the 4th plinth in Trafalgar
Square?
> >
> > I personally am undecided but can say that a shortlist ought to
comprise of
> > the following persons:
> >
> > 1. Isaac Newton
> > 2. William Shakespear
>
> Already commemorated in Leicester Square and Westminster Abbey
>
> > 3. Charles Dickens
> > 4. Humphrey Davy
> > 5. Francis Bacon (The Scientist and not the Artist).
>
> Already commemorated in South Square, Gray's Inn.
> > 6. George Harrison
>
> The Beatle?
No, he was actually an 19th century clock maker. He succeeded in developing
a series of time peices that allowed for successful navigation of ships at
sea and single handedly managed to preserve the lives of countless hundred
of men who all set to sea with the nation's navy.
> > 7. Lord Rumford
> > 8. John Dalton
> > 9. Ernest Rutherford
> > 10. Charles Darwin
> > 11. Michael Faraday
> > 12. Samuel Taylor Coleridge
> > 13. Keats
> > 14. John Ruskin
> > 15. Emily Pankhurst
> > 16. Marie Stopes
> > 17. Robert Boyle
> > 18. John Donne
> > 19. Edward Elgar
>
>
> Of the above I think Faraday, Newton, Elgar and Darwin are the best
> choices.
>
> That being said I personally feel that the plinth should remain empty
> until the death of HM The Queen (whose accession we celebrate today,
> February 6th). Upon her death we should erect a statue in her honour.
> She is after all the longest reigning monarch of the century and may
> well become the longest reigning monarch in our history.
I feel I have to lay my cards on the table here. As a staunch republican, I
would horrified to discover that the plinth was reserved for our present
Monarch (Senile old wench). AFAIK, no statue of Darwin currently exists and
so therefore I feel he would make an appropriate choice.
I for one am depressed by the number of statues of eminent scientists that
exist in the Capital. I have no desire to besmerch the art world, but I
feel we have an unhealthy balance of artists of one kind or another vs
scientists.
>
> Similarly it should be remembered that George IV and James II also have
> their statues in the square.
I am aware of this ...
Will van Zwanenberg
Rafal Heydel-Mankoo <raf...@home.com> wrote in article
<389E0F36...@home.com>...
>
>
> Alistair Mann wrote:
> >
> > Rafal Heydel-Mankoo <raf...@home.com> wrote in message
> > news:389E002E...@home.com...
> > >
> > >
> > > Will van Zwanenberg wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ok, opinions please ...
> > > >
> > > > At statue of whom should, iyho, occupy the 4th plinth in Trafalgar
> > Square?
> > > >
> > <snip>
> >
> > > That being said I personally feel that the plinth should remain empty
> > > until the death of HM The Queen (whose accession we celebrate today,
> > > February 6th). Upon her death we should erect a statue in her honour.
> > > She is after all the longest reigning monarch of the century
..<snip>
> >
> > ... all 37 days of it!
> >
>
> Alistair, don't get me started! You should know that we are still in the
> last year of the 20th century! 2001 is the first year of the 21st
> century.
>
It's refreshing to discover that somebody acknowledges this.
Will van Zwanenberg
> LOL
> Being a well-bred lady from the home-counties..... I rarely voice my
> disagreement;)
Kat, I'm puzzled ...
I thought you said you lived in Essex? :)
Will van Zwanenberg
Sue_R <Su...@cwcom.net> wrote in article
<9Wnn4.17661$PG6.147154@news2-hme0>...
>
> Will van Zwanenberg <will@YOUR_CLOTHINGwillz.demon.co.uk> wrote in
message
> news:01bf70ea$5f0deeb0$93db989e@thinpad600...
> > Ok, opinions please ...
> >
> > At statue of whom should, iyho, occupy the 4th plinth in Trafalgar
Square?
>
> I'm sure Tony Blah has reserved it already...
Yeah, he's probably got Campell on the case ...
Personally, I'd like to see a statue of Thatcher being run over by a Tank
(rather than driving it as many have suggested ...)
Will van Zwanenberg
[snip]
> 20. Will van Zwanenberg
> (not necessarily a statue) :-)
What exactly had you in mind as an alternative Tel?
Will van Zwanenberg
>kat< <katri...@cwcom.net> wrote in article
<9kp0ZsAB...@cwcom.net>...
> In article <389e4ec3...@news.ukgateway.net>, Telegraph
> <tele...@ukgoatway.net> writes
> >On Sun, 06 Feb 2000 22:40:08 GMT, "Will van Zwanenberg"
> ><will@YOUR_CLOTHINGwillz.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >>Ok, opinions please ...
> >>
> >>At statue of whom should, iyho, occupy the 4th plinth in Trafalgar
Square?
> >>
> >>I personally am undecided but can say that a shortlist ought to
comprise of
> >>the following persons:
> >>
> >>1. Isaac Newton
> >>2. William Shakespear
> >>3. Charles Dickens
> >>4. Humphrey Davy
> >>5. Francis Bacon (The Scientist and not the Artist).
> >>6. George Harrison
> >>7. Lord Rumford
> >>8. John Dalton
> >>9. Ernest Rutherford
> >>10. Charles Darwin
> >>11. Michael Faraday
> >>12. Samuel Taylor Coleridge
> >>13. Keats
> >>14. John Ruskin
> >>15. Emily Pankhurst
> >>16. Marie Stopes
> >>17. Robert Boyle
> >>18. John Donne
> >>19. Edward Elgar
> >20. Will van Zwanenberg
> >(not necessarily a statue) :-)
>
> Taking part in various tableaux-vivants?
> Lords Raglan/Cardigan/Kitchener, maybe?
I understand Kitchener is on the official shortlist ...
Zobo Kolonie
news:01bf70ea$5f0deeb0$93db989e@thinpad600...
> Ok, opinions please ...
>
> At statue of whom should, iyho, occupy the 4th plinth in Trafalgar Square?
>
ZK
Sue_R
>kat< <katri...@cwcom.net> wrote in message
news:L7KJuUAM...@cwcom.net...
> In article <389E7ED6...@home.com>, Rafal Heydel-Mankoo
> <raf...@home.com> writes
> >
> >
> >">kat<" wrote:
> >> Being a well-bred lady from the home-counties.....
> >
...and the one that's left should get the plinth!:)
Sue_R
tiny <t_clip...@brain.hotmail.com> wrote in message >
> Breeding is something Essex ladies know about!
Especially the Barking wimmins
>kat<
<will@YOUR_CLOTHINGwillz.demon.co.uk> writes
'appen..
--
>Kat<
©
jay...@my-deja.com
> > > 6. George Harrison
> >
> > The Beatle?
>
> No, he was actually an 19th century clock maker. He succeeded in
developing
> a series of time peices that allowed for successful navigation of
ships at
> sea and single handedly managed to preserve the lives of countless
hundred
> of men who all set to sea with the nation's navy.
*James* Harrison was the Beatle of course :-)
timi the tosspot
>I feel I have to lay my cards on the table here. As a staunch republican, I
>would horrified to discover that the plinth was reserved for our present
>Monarch (Senile old wench). AFAIK, no statue of Darwin currently exists and
>so therefore I feel he would make an appropriate choice.
how about darwin sitting on a toilet bowl.
origin of the faeces and all that.
timi the tosspot
"brightonrock around the clock".
>kat<
<tim....@rsole.btinternet.com> writes
--
>Kat<
©
tiny
wrote in message news:yKxn4.17724$PG6.148275@news2-hme0...
> tiny <t_clip...@brain.hotmail.com> wrote in message >
> > Breeding is something Essex ladies know about!
>
> Especially the Barking wimmins
Until I visited, this Essex place, I did not realise why
a bypass, then a bypass for the bypass, is needed.
The wimmin are voracious.
Sue_R
Specially the one's shut away in tower blocks. When they escape from the
16th floor there's no stopping them.
Tristán White
>That being said I personally feel that the plinth should remain empty
>until the death of HM The Queen (whose accession we celebrate today,
>February 6th). Upon her death we should erect a statue in her honour.
>well become the longest reigning monarch in our history.
>their statues in the square.
Ken Livingstone. Absolutely no doubt about it.
I certainly don't care much for another royal there. Monarchy is dead
anyway, just a gimmick for the tourists. Sorry Rafal, I know you're keen on
the monarchy (the only one I know) but at the same time I know you
appreciate honesty and I, honestly, have no time for those overpaid
figureheads.
TRISTÁN
Matthew Cooke
Will van Zwanenberg wrote in message
>
>
>>kat< <katri...@cwcom.net> wrote in article
><9kp0ZsAB...@cwcom.net>...
>> In article <389e4ec3...@news.ukgateway.net>, Telegraph
>> <tele...@ukgoatway.net> writes
>> ><will@YOUR_CLOTHINGwillz.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> >
>> >>Ok, opinions please ...
>> >>
>> >>At statue of whom should, iyho, occupy the 4th plinth in Trafalgar
>Square?
>> >>
I agree with this approach. The key criterion should be to select someone
who would look good as a statue. So Kitchener is good (military bearing &
huge imposing mustache) but the Queen is not so good (small dumpy lady with
specs).
Matthew.
>
Zobo Kolonie
news:87n0df$h...@romeo.logica.co.uk...
Lopsided grin, a pint in each hand and one foot holding a professional
beggar down by the throat.
ZK :-)
timi the tosspot
>I which case, a statue of me would be brilliant...
>Lopsided grin, a pint in each hand and one foot holding a professional
>beggar down by the throat.
Rafal Heydel-Mankoo
Will van Zwanenberg wrote:
>
> I for one am depressed by the number of statues of eminent scientists that
> exist in the Capital. I have no desire to besmerch the art world, but I
> feel we have an unhealthy balance of artists of one kind or another vs
> scientists.
I have wisely snipped your very unsound views on the monarchy.
You are correct in your claim that scientists are under-represented.
That being said artists of the painting variety are also
under-represented. Westminster Abbey only has two artists in it (I
believe--at any rate only two busts of artists). Authors and actors are
the ones generally cast in stone.
Rafal Heydel-Mankoo
>kat<
<raf...@home.com> writes
>
>
Artists, would probably rather be remembered by their work..
Si monumentum requiris
circumspice
--
>Kat<
©
>kat<
writes
--
>Kat<
©
Rafal Heydel-Mankoo
I was going to mention Haig after your original Cardigan post but Haig
already has a statue.
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traf...@england.com (London, England)
Rafal Heydel-Mankoo
[Translation: If you seek a monument look around you]
Actually seeing as you have raised Sir Christopher Wren [resurgum!] I
wonder if he has a statue in London. I can't think of one off the top of
my head. I can recall a bust of his and two portraits but no statue.
Is there one?
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>kat<
<raf...@home.com> writes
>
>
>already has a statue.
--
>Kat<
©
Will van Zwanenberg
Rafal Heydel-Mankoo <raf...@home.com> wrote in article
<389F14E2...@home.com>...
>
>
> Will van Zwanenberg wrote:
>
> >
> > I for one am depressed by the number of statues of eminent scientists
that
> > exist in the Capital. I have no desire to besmerch the art world, but I
> > feel we have an unhealthy balance of artists of one kind or another vs
> > scientists.
>
> I have wisely snipped your very unsound views on the monarchy.
> You are correct in your claim that scientists are under-represented.
> That being said artists of the painting variety are also
> under-represented. Westminster Abbey only has two artists in it (I
> believe--at any rate only two busts of artists). Authors and actors are
> the ones generally cast in stone.
Quick question ...
Does anyone know if there exists a statue of Darwin anywhere? I know UCL
planned to erect one in the Quad on Gower Street owing to the fact that
Darwin once lectured at UCL for a while, the largest lecture theatre at
university is named after him and of course, his cousin Francis Glaton
helped establish the ounce notorious Glaton Laboratory there.
Apparently to date, what has prevented a statue being erected is lack of
available funds.
Will van Zwanenberg
>kat< <katri...@cwcom.net> wrote in article
<$xIkMsBF...@cwcom.net>...
> In article <389F14E2...@home.com>, Rafal Heydel-Mankoo
> <raf...@home.com> writes
> >
> >
> >Will van Zwanenberg wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I for one am depressed by the number of statues of eminent scientists
that
> >> exist in the Capital. I have no desire to besmerch the art world, but
I
> >> feel we have an unhealthy balance of artists of one kind or another vs
> >> scientists.
> >
> >I have wisely snipped your very unsound views on the monarchy.
> >You are correct in your claim that scientists are under-represented.
> >That being said artists of the painting variety are also
> >under-represented. Westminster Abbey only has two artists in it (I
> >believe--at any rate only two busts of artists). Authors and actors are
> >the ones generally cast in stone.
>
> Artists, would probably rather be remembered by their work..
> Si monumentum requiris
> circumspice
Are you suggesting Kat that this isn't true of scientists?
Rafal Heydel-Mankoo
">kat<" wrote:
> >I was going to mention Haig after your original Cardigan post but Haig
> >already has a statue.
> I'm afraid the irony was lost because of the mistake in my first post ;)
> --
I'm sure most people understood! The film Charge of the Light Brigade
and the tv series Blackadder Goes Forth both made the general public
aware of Cardigan and Haig's anctics.
>kat<
<will@YOUR_CLOTHINGwillz.demon.co.uk> writes
I think that artists would want to be remembered by the physical
interaction of their work and the audience...
This can't be true of scientists in quite the same way.
When I look at a painting, or listen to a piece of music, I'm having a
direct relationship with the artist; he/she is influencing my thoughts
and feelings and making subtle changes to the way I view the world..
That's exactly what Wren meant in his epitaph.
It's a bit different with scientists; I don't think "Thank god for
Alexander Fleming" every time the doctor hands me a prescription for
anti-biotics.
There is a difference, but it's hard to explain.
--
>Kat<
©
>kat<
<raf...@home.com> writes
>
>
I learn most of my history from the Flashman books;)
--
>Kat<
©
Will van Zwanenberg
Zobo Kolonie <kol...@popmail.SPAMSUCKSdircon.co.uk> wrote in article
<iJxn4.1128$5Bf.18...@news.telia.no>...
> Will van Zwanenberg <will@YOUR_CLOTHINGwillz.demon.co.uk> wrote in
message
> news:01bf70ea$5f0deeb0$93db989e@thinpad600...
> > Ok, opinions please ...
> >
> > A statue of whom should, iyho, occupy the 4th plinth in Trafalgar
Square?
> >
> Alan Turing.
>
> ZK
A good candidate but I fear there are too many dumb fucks out there to know
who this guy was
We could equally have a statue of Charles Babbage ...
Lanimal
Turing is more deserving. He made a parctical and effetive contribution
to the war effort, was years ahead of his time, and also never got any
decent recognition from this country. If he was a merkin, he'd be
carved into Mount Rushmore!
Cheers
L
timi the tosspot
the "parctical" separator of your sentences ?
i think we sholdu be todl.
Rafal Heydel-Mankoo
Will van Zwanenberg wrote:
>
> Zobo Kolonie <kol...@popmail.SPAMSUCKSdircon.co.uk> wrote in article
> <iJxn4.1128$5Bf.18...@news.telia.no>...
> > Will van Zwanenberg <will@YOUR_CLOTHINGwillz.demon.co.uk> wrote in
> message
> > news:01bf70ea$5f0deeb0$93db989e@thinpad600...
> > > Ok, opinions please ...
> > >
> > > A statue of whom should, iyho, occupy the 4th plinth in Trafalgar
> Square?
> > >
> > Alan Turing.
> >
> > ZK
>
> A good candidate but I fear there are too many dumb fucks out there to know
> who this guy was
>
> We could equally have a statue of Charles Babbage ...
Well a statue at Bletchley Park of Turing would be nice to start with.
Babbage is a bit too distant a figure to merit a statue today I dare
say.
Rafal Heydel-Mankoo
Lanimal wrote:
>
> Will van Zwanenberg wrote:
> >
> > Zobo Kolonie <kol...@popmail.SPAMSUCKSdircon.co.uk> wrote in article
> > <iJxn4.1128$5Bf.18...@news.telia.no>...
> > > Will van Zwanenberg <will@YOUR_CLOTHINGwillz.demon.co.uk> wrote in
> > message
> > > news:01bf70ea$5f0deeb0$93db989e@thinpad600...
> > > > Ok, opinions please ...
> > > >
> > > > A statue of whom should, iyho, occupy the 4th plinth in Trafalgar
> > Square?
> > > >
> > > Alan Turing.
> > >
> > > ZK
> >
> > A good candidate but I fear there are too many dumb fucks out there to know
> > who this guy was
> >
> > We could equally have a statue of Charles Babbage ...
>
> Turing is more deserving. He made a parctical and effetive contribution
> to the war effort, was years ahead of his time, and also never got any
> decent recognition from this country. If he was a merkin, he'd be
> carved into Mount Rushmore!
Indeed. Alas he was too eccentric for his era and he was a homosexual to
boot. Today we would rightly celebrate his genius.
timi the tosspot
not until article 28 is solved.
until then, we would celebate his genitals.
Lanimal
timi the tosspot wrote:
>
> Lanimal wrote in message <38A0B7EB...@null.com>...
> >Will van Zwanenberg wrote:
> >> Zobo Kolonie <kol...@popmail.SPAMSUCKSdircon.co.uk> wrote in article
> >> <iJxn4.1128$5Bf.18...@news.telia.no>...
> >> > Will van Zwanenberg <will@YOUR_CLOTHINGwillz.demon.co.uk> wrote in
> >> message
> >> > news:01bf70ea$5f0deeb0$93db989e@thinpad600...
> >> > > Ok, opinions please ...
> >> > > A statue of whom should, iyho, occupy the 4th plinth in Trafalgar
> >> Square?
> >> > Alan Turing.
> >> > ZK
> >> A good candidate but I fear there are too many dumb fucks out there to
> know
> >> who this guy was
> >> We could equally have a statue of Charles Babbage ...
> >Turing is more deserving. He made a parctical and effetive contribution
> >to the war effort, was years ahead of his time, and also never got any
> >decent recognition from this country. If he was a merkin, he'd be
> >carved into Mount Rushmore!
> >Cheers
> >L
> was he the unmanly "effetive" who discovered
> the "parctical" separator of your sentences ?
> i think we sholdu be todl.
Thanks timi
Hmmmmmmmm. Spelling pedant.
Glad to see you're on the case though timi. You can see why I never
type out my full name signing off, it's not laziness..
Cheers
M
timi the tosspot
i was bored. sorry.
forgive me, pretty please ?
Lanimal
Howdo timi
You are forgiven, and still much loved.
Let's never argue again, pretty please?
Ta
L
Zobo Kolonie
>
>
> Zobo Kolonie <kol...@popmail.SPAMSUCKSdircon.co.uk> wrote in article
> <iJxn4.1128$5Bf.18...@news.telia.no>...
> > Will van Zwanenberg <will@YOUR_CLOTHINGwillz.demon.co.uk> wrote in
> message
> > news:01bf70ea$5f0deeb0$93db989e@thinpad600...
> > > Ok, opinions please ...
> > >
> > > A statue of whom should, iyho, occupy the 4th plinth in Trafalgar
> Square?
> > >
> > Alan Turing.
> >
> > ZK
>
> A good candidate but I fear there are too many dumb fucks out there to
know
> who this guy was
>
> We could equally have a statue of Charles Babbage ...
>
Engine I decided that Turing was the better candidate.
ZK
Rafal Heydel-Mankoo
Ian Jelf wrote:
>
> In article <389F367F...@home.com>, Rafal Heydel-Mankoo
> <raf...@home.com> writes
> >[Translation: If you seek a monument look around you]
> >Actually seeing as you have raised Sir Christopher Wren [resurgum!]
> If anyone's wondering about this (not you Rafal!) the word is associated
> with a charming story form the restoration of London after the fire.
>
> Legend has it that an illiterate labourer was sent by Wren amongst the
> rubble of the old, burned out Saint Paul's to find a piece of rock which
> could be placed in the centre of the proposed new cathedral and from
> which all new measurements and surveys for the new building could be
> take.
>
> The labourer came back clutching a fragment of an old monument from Old
> Saint Paul's on which only one word could be discerned: "Resurgam" ("I
> shall rise again"). This was taken to be a good omen and the word also
> appears on the south pediment of the cathedral, near the phoenix.
Yes I am well acquainted with the story Ian. Why do you think I
mentioned "resurgam" in this context?! :-) The "fragment" was allegedly
part of a tomb stone.
Regards,
Rafal
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<Trista...@rocketmail.com> writes
>Ken Livingstone. Absolutely no doubt about it.
I can't make up my mind between Ken Livingstone, the Queen and Margaret
Thatcher. Perhaps they could all go up there in a group? (The plinth
is big enough and it would be a *wonderful* talking point.)
Realistically, it will probably in the fullness of time be occupied by a
statue of the Princess of Wales, an idea I dislike enormously, as it
happens but which would be very popular I suspect.
>I certainly don't care much for another royal there. Monarchy is dead
>anyway, just a gimmick for the tourists. Sorry Rafal, I know you're keen on
>the monarchy (the only one I know)
You know at least two, Tristan!
--
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for the Heart of England and London
Ian Jelf
<raf...@home.com> writes
>[Translation: If you seek a monument look around you]
>Actually seeing as you have raised Sir Christopher Wren [resurgum!]
If anyone's wondering about this (not you Rafal!) the word is associated
with a charming story form the restoration of London after the fire.
Legend has it that an illiterate labourer was sent by Wren amongst the
rubble of the old, burned out Saint Paul's to find a piece of rock which
could be placed in the centre of the proposed new cathedral and from
which all new measurements and surveys for the new building could be
take.
The labourer came back clutching a fragment of an old monument from Old
Saint Paul's on which only one word could be discerned: "Resurgam" ("I
shall rise again"). This was taken to be a good omen and the word also
appears on the south pediment of the cathedral, near the phoenix.
> I
>wonder if he has a statue in London. I can't think of one off the top of
>my head. I can recall a bust of his and two portraits but no statue.
>Is there one?
I'm reasonably sure that he does not; but then the Saint Paul's and the
City Churches are better monuments to him than any statue ever could be.
Wren once wrote that he wanted to achieve "beauty through geometry" and
he certainly succeeded!
Ian Jelf
<will@YOUR_CLOTHINGwillz.demon.co.uk> writes
>
>
>Zobo Kolonie <kol...@popmail.SPAMSUCKSdircon.co.uk> wrote in article
><iJxn4.1128$5Bf.18...@news.telia.no>...
>> Will van Zwanenberg <will@YOUR_CLOTHINGwillz.demon.co.uk> wrote in
>message
>> news:01bf70ea$5f0deeb0$93db989e@thinpad600...
>> > Ok, opinions please ...
>> >
>> > A statue of whom should, iyho, occupy the 4th plinth in Trafalgar
>Square?
>> >
>> Alan Turing.
>>
>> ZK
>
>A good candidate but I fear there are too many dumb fucks out there to know
>who this guy was
>
>We could equally have a statue of Charles Babbage ...
In Birmingham we have a statue of James Watt, leaning on his Separate
Condenser (ooh-er, Missus!) so could we have in Trafalgar Square Mr.
Babbage sitting on his "Difference Engine (is that what it was/would
have been called?)
Ian Jelf
<raf...@home.com> writes
>Indeed. Alas he was too eccentric for his era and he was a homosexual to
>boot.
Rafal Heydel-Mankoo
Ian Jelf wrote:
>
> In article <87mrcu$voc$1...@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk>, Tristán White
> <Trista...@rocketmail.com> writes
> >Ken Livingstone. Absolutely no doubt about it.
> I can't make up my mind between Ken Livingstone, the Queen and Margaret
> Thatcher. Perhaps they could all go up there in a group? (The plinth
> is big enough and it would be a *wonderful* talking point.)
>
> Realistically, it will probably in the fullness of time be occupied by a
> statue of the Princess of Wales, an idea I dislike enormously, as it
> happens but which would be very popular I suspect.
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>
> >I certainly don't care much for another royal there. Monarchy is dead
> >anyway, just a gimmick for the tourists. Sorry Rafal, I know you're keen on
> >the monarchy (the only one I know)
> You know at least two, Tristan!
Bravo Ian! There are several others on here too. We may not be as loud
and brash as the republicans but I believe we make up the great silent
majority! :-)
Rafal.
timi the tosspot
>In article <87mrcu$voc$1...@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk>, Tristán White
><Trista...@rocketmail.com> writes
>>Ken Livingstone. Absolutely no doubt about it.
>I can't make up my mind between Ken Livingstone, the Queen and Margaret
>Thatcher. Perhaps they could all go up there in a group? (The plinth
>is big enough and it would be a *wonderful* talking point.)
>Realistically, it will probably in the fullness of time be occupied by a
>statue of the Princess of Wales, an idea I dislike enormously, as it
>happens but which would be very popular I suspect.
>>anyway, just a gimmick for the tourists. Sorry Rafal, I know you're keen
on
>>the monarchy (the only one I know)
>You know at least two, Tristan!
Oliver G. Jones
through W.W.II against a greater opponent/ Enermy and his efforts in showing
the world that a disability is not the end of a practical & useful life.
Thank you
OJ
timi the tosspot
Oliver G. Jones
W
hat if he were wearing his 'pegs' in that upside down V stance... just like
me?
OJ
timi the tosspot
>timi the tosspot wrote:
>> Oliver G. Jones wrote in message <38A2B611...@unl.ac.uk>...
>> >What do you think to Douglas Bader? He does stand as a great historical
>> figure
>> >through W.W.II against a greater opponent/ Enermy and his efforts in
>> showing
>> >the world that a disability is not the end of a practical & useful life.
>> >Thank you
>> >OJ
>> he'll be too short.
>just like me?
>OJ
are you pointing 2 legs at me ?
rude person.
timi the tosspot
Will van Zwanenberg
Oliver G. Jones <o.j...@unl.ac.uk> wrote in article
<38A2B611...@unl.ac.uk>...
> What do you think to Douglas Bader? He does stand as a great historical
figure
> through W.W.II against a greater opponent/ Enermy and his efforts in
showing
> the world that a disability is not the end of a practical & useful life.
>
> Thank you
> OJ
>
Sorry, but who the hell was Douglas Bader?
Telegraph
WW II pilot, known for being legless....
---
Tel
Gott mit Uns
Rafal Heydel-Mankoo
Was this the chap played by Kenneth More in a film back in the 1950s? He
had artificial legs and in one famous scene his plane was hurtling to
the ground and he couldn't get out as his wooden leg was stuck.
Telegraph
That's him. 'Reach for the Sky' was the name of the film and I
remember seeing it when it was first released.
Oliver G. Jones
with a disability and a limp
Sue_R
Oliver G. Jones <o.j...@unl.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:38A3E521...@unl.ac.uk...
> That's the fella, the legless wonder... an inspiration to all psycho fly
boys
> with a disability and a limp
Didn't he start the boy scouts too, or am I getting confused? (wouldn't be
the first time..)
--
Sue
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Read his story and sign the guestbook
Oliver G. Jones
about Clause 28 or the Gay day at the Dome, (best place for them, if they want
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OJ
Will van Zwanenberg
Sue_R <Su...@cwcom.net> wrote in article
<VIVo4.18017$M47.178832@news1-hme0>...
>
> Oliver G. Jones <o.j...@unl.ac.uk> wrote in message
> news:38A3E521...@unl.ac.uk...
> > That's the fella, the legless wonder... an inspiration to all psycho
fly
> boys
> > with a disability and a limp
>
> Didn't he start the boy scouts too, or am I getting confused? (wouldn't
be
> the first time..)
You're thinking of Baden Powell Sue ...
This bloody Essex Girls - thick as two short planks!!!
Sue_R
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>
>
> Sue_R <Su...@cwcom.net> wrote in article
> <VIVo4.18017$M47.178832@news1-hme0>...
> >
> > Oliver G. Jones <o.j...@unl.ac.uk> wrote in message
> > news:38A3E521...@unl.ac.uk...
> > > That's the fella, the legless wonder... an inspiration to all psycho
> fly
> > boys
> > > with a disability and a limp
> >
> > Didn't he start the boy scouts too, or am I getting confused? (wouldn't
> be
> > the first time..)
>
> You're thinking of Baden Powell Sue ...
Thank you. Some kind soul put me right yesterday.
>
> This bloody Essex Girls - thick as two short planks!!!
Lowland humour again?
timi the tosspot
>Will van Zwanenberg <will@YOUR_CLOTHINGwillz.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:01bf75a9$b3c52db0$93db989e@thinpad600...
>> Sue_R <Su...@cwcom.net> wrote in article
>> <VIVo4.18017$M47.178832@news1-hme0>...
>> > Oliver G. Jones <o.j...@unl.ac.uk> wrote in message
>> > news:38A3E521...@unl.ac.uk...
>> > > That's the fella, the legless wonder... an inspiration to all psycho
>> fly
>> > boys
>> > > with a disability and a limp
>> > Didn't he start the boy scouts too, or am I getting confused? (wouldn't
>> be
>> > the first time..)
>> You're thinking of Baden Powell Sue ...
>Thank you. Some kind soul put me right yesterday.
>> This bloody Essex Girls - thick as two short planks!!!
>Lowland humour again?
almost.
but not quite.
Dot
<will@YOUR_CLOTHINGwillz.demon.co.uk> writes
>
>This bloody Essex Girls - thick as two short planks!!!
>
--
Kennedy
Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed;
A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's pissed.
Python Philosophers (replace 'nospam' with 'kennedym' when replying)
>kat<
<r...@nospam.demon.co.uk> writes
>In article <01bf75a9$b3c52db0$93db989e@thinpad600>, Will van Zwanenberg
><will@YOUR_CLOTHINGwillz.demon.co.uk> writes
>>
>>This bloody Essex Girls - thick as two short planks!!!
>>
>Since when have you been an Essex girl, Will?
Dick or Willy in :)
--
>Kat<
©
Sue_R
>kat< <katri...@cwcom.net> wrote in message
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Yep, Essex girls do not let just any old Dick or Willy enter...
Will van Zwanenberg
Dot <r...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in article
<zTp29JAl...@kennedym.demon.co.uk>...
> In article <01bf75a9$b3c52db0$93db989e@thinpad600>, Will van Zwanenberg
> <will@YOUR_CLOTHINGwillz.demon.co.uk> writes
> >
> >This bloody Essex Girls - thick as two short planks!!!
> >
> Since when have you been an Essex girl, Will?
Type yet again ...
These bloody Essex girls is of course what I meant ...
John Rowland
news:M7yp4.19084$M47.197148@news1-hme0...
>
> >kat< <katri...@cwcom.net> wrote in message
> news:6qRVamAZ...@cwcom.net...
> > In article <zTp29JAl...@kennedym.demon.co.uk>, Dot
> > <r...@nospam.demon.co.uk> writes
> > ><will@YOUR_CLOTHINGwillz.demon.co.uk> writes
> > >>
> > >>This bloody Essex Girls - thick as two short planks!!!
> > >>
> > >Since when have you been an Essex girl, Will?
> > Dick or Willy in :)
>
> Yep, Essex girls do not let just any old Dick or Willy enter...
But they will let any young Dick or Willy enter.
--
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Over 200 transport plans for London at
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/7069/tpftla.html .
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
it's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes
tiny
wrote in message news:01bf767d$0bcf7c80$93db989e@thinpad600...>
> > <will@YOUR_CLOTHINGwillz.demon.co.uk> writes
> > >This bloody Essex Girls - thick as two short planks!!!
> > >
> > Since when have you been an Essex girl, Will?
>
> Type yet again ...
>
> These bloody Essex girls is of course what I meant ...
What about the other Essex girls?
tiny
message news:950493896.24056.0...@news.demon.co.uk...
> Sue_R <Su...@cwcom.net> wrote in message
> news:M7yp4.19084$M47.197148@news1-hme0...
> > >kat< <katri...@cwcom.net> wrote in message
> > news:6qRVamAZ...@cwcom.net...
> > > In article <zTp29JAl...@kennedym.demon.co.uk>, Dot
> > > <r...@nospam.demon.co.uk> writes
Zwanenberg
> > > ><will@YOUR_CLOTHINGwillz.demon.co.uk> writes
> > > >>This bloody Essex Girls - thick as two short planks!!!
> > > >>
> > > >Since when have you been an Essex girl, Will?
> > > He did apply for membership, but we are far too elitist to let any
Tom,
> > > Dick or Willy in :)
> >
> > Yep, Essex girls do not let just any old Dick or Willy enter...
>
> But they will let any young Dick or Willy enter.
The worse the eczema, or is that really just black heads, the better.
Will van Zwanenberg
tiny <t_clip...@brain.hotmail.com> wrote in article
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> "Will van Zwanenberg" <will@YOUR_CLOTHINGwillz.demon.co.uk>
> wrote in message news:01bf767d$0bcf7c80$93db989e@thinpad600...>
> > Dot <r...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in article
> > <zTp29JAl...@kennedym.demon.co.uk>...
> > > In article <01bf75a9$b3c52db0$93db989e@thinpad600>, Will van
Zwanenberg
> > > <will@YOUR_CLOTHINGwillz.demon.co.uk> writes
>
> > > >This bloody Essex Girls - thick as two short planks!!!
> > > >
> > > Since when have you been an Essex girl, Will?
> >
> > Type yet again ...
> >
> > These bloody Essex girls is of course what I meant ...
>
> What about the other Essex girls?
Slappers, the lot of them ....
Sue_R
Maybe a visit there might offer you the chance of the shag you've been
without for so long..
Oliver G. Jones
there (where ever). The promised land of Quimm city is there for the taking.
Will van Zwanenberg
Sue_R <Su...@cwcom.net> wrote in article
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>
> Will van Zwanenberg <will@YOUR_CLOTHINGwillz.demon.co.uk> wrote in
message
> news:01bf779c$306608a0$93db989e@thinpad600...
> >
> >
> > tiny <t_clip...@brain.hotmail.com> wrote in article
> > <_oMp4.555$lR5.1...@newnews.dircon.co.uk>...
> > > "Will van Zwanenberg" <will@YOUR_CLOTHINGwillz.demon.co.uk>
> > > wrote in message news:01bf767d$0bcf7c80$93db989e@thinpad600...>
> > > > Dot <r...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in article
> > > > <zTp29JAl...@kennedym.demon.co.uk>...
> > > > > In article <01bf75a9$b3c52db0$93db989e@thinpad600>, Will van
> > Zwanenberg
> > > > > <will@YOUR_CLOTHINGwillz.demon.co.uk> writes
> > >
> > > > > >This bloody Essex Girls - thick as two short planks!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > Since when have you been an Essex girl, Will?
> > > >
> > > > Type yet again ...
> > > >
> > > > These bloody Essex girls is of course what I meant ...
> > >
> > > What about the other Essex girls?
> >
> > Slappers, the lot of them ....
>
> Maybe a visit there might offer you the chance of the shag you've been
> without for so long..
Actually Sue, I was afforded that luxury only last night and no, I'm not
prepared to divulge details....
Sue_R
In Essex it is not a luxury.
CJD.Roberts
Difference Engine would be a great idea.
Anyway see this web page for more details on the history of Babbage and
his First Difference Engine:-
http://home.clara.net/mycetes/babbage/
In article <pi0eCSAZ...@bluebadge.demon.co.uk>,
Ian Jelf <i...@bluebadge.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <01bf7284$dfb05cb0$93db989e@thinpad600>, Will van
Zwanenberg
> <will@YOUR_CLOTHINGwillz.demon.co.uk> writes
> >
> >
> >Zobo Kolonie <kol...@popmail.SPAMSUCKSdircon.co.uk> wrote in article
> ><iJxn4.1128$5Bf.18...@news.telia.no>...
> >> Will van Zwanenberg <will@YOUR_CLOTHINGwillz.demon.co.uk> wrote in
> >message
> >> news:01bf70ea$5f0deeb0$93db989e@thinpad600...
> >> > Ok, opinions please ...
> >> >
> >> > A statue of whom should, iyho, occupy the 4th plinth in Trafalgar
> >Square?
> >> >
> >> Alan Turing.
> >>
> >> ZK
> >
> >A good candidate but I fear there are too many dumb fucks out there
to know
> >who this guy was
> >
> >We could equally have a statue of Charles Babbage ...
> Now this is an interesting idea!
>
> In Birmingham we have a statue of James Watt, leaning on his Separate
> Condenser (ooh-er, Missus!) so could we have in Trafalgar Square Mr.
> Babbage sitting on his "Difference Engine (is that what it was/would
> have been called?)
> --
> Ian Jelf http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk
> Birmingham, UK
> Registered "Blue Badge" Tourist Guide
> for the Heart of England and London
>
>
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John Rowland
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> I agree a statue of Charles Babbage in Trafalgar Square operating his
> Difference Engine would be a great idea.
But it would have to be accompanied by a statue of Alan Turing, and also one
of Tim Berners-Lee (the Englishman who invented the WWW).
CJD.Roberts
Cambridge or Manchester or Bletchley Park would be more suitable places
to locate a memorial statue to Turing.
Besides Babbage was born, lived most of his life and died in London.
He's a Londoner!
In article <951264991.28881.2...@news.demon.co.uk>,