LONDON UNIVERSITIES
peanatz
Nottingham and want a nice area but a good course. I've got quite a few
prospectus' but I just want to be sure of all my options.
Euphoria
<pea...@NOSPAMbigfoot.com> wrote:
>Anyone know of any good UNI's In London for Media studies.
A friend of mine did the course at Middlesex and loved it...
...but that was before the 'new media' age really dawned. Find out
what they do on electronic publishing ... and what kit they have
available for use (eg Macs with Director, Premier etc)
Shaun Cawdery
peanatz <pea...@NOSPAMbigfoot.com> wrote in message
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> Anyone know of any good UNI's In London for Media studies. I live in
> Nottingham and want a nice area but a good course. I've got quite a few
> prospectus' but I just want to be sure of all my options.
And while we are asking about Uni's, how much does it cost to live and study
in London?
Shaun
Ian Marshall
<s.ca...@virgin.net> electronically stated:
>And while we are asking about Uni's, how much does it cost to live and study
>in London?
South Bank uni charge 72 pounds per week for their halls near the
Elephent & Castle. But all rooms have on-suite shower and private
crapper - so that's OK then. You share a kitchen.
Ian
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Matthew M. Huntbach
> Anyone know of any good UNI's In London for Media studies.
Any university that does a mickey mouse course like Media Studies
isn't a good one.
Matthew Huntbach
Tristán White
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>And while we are asking about Uni's, how much does it cost to live and
study
>in London?
Ha ha! This is an impossible question to answer. The cost of living changes
completely depending on everything, from whether you like going out to pubs
other than the student union, clubs other than the student union, drugs
other than pro-plus, food other than the student refectory or tins of baked
beans on KwikSave no-frills bread.... and as for accommodation, whether
you'd be happy in College halls, or flatsharing with some strangers, or
whether you want your own place! And if the latter, if the local area is too
expensive to rent in, you'll need to travel, and travel costs add an extra
£100 pcm on top. All depends on your standards. Halls of Residence at QMW
were £60 pw back in 1992, I'm sure they've gone up since.
Clinker, Giles (EXCHANGE:HAL02:HQ12)
> Anyone know of any good UNI's In London for Media studies. I live in
> Nottingham and want a nice area but a good course. I've got quite a few
> prospectus' but I just want to be sure of all my options.
UCL is a very well respected institution, so just find what they do that's
closest to your requirements.
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mike_s
<m...@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> penned
>peanatz (pea...@NOSPAMbigfoot.com) wrote:
>> Anyone know of any good UNI's In London for Media studies.
>
>isn't a good one.
Really? And what exactly are you basing this statement on?
You have extensive knowledge and experience of all such university
courses?
Mike
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Tristán White
> >Any university that does a mickey mouse course like Media Studies
> >isn't a good one.
I see. In other words, the University of Birmingham, Univ of Central
Lancashire, Chelt & Glos College, Coventry University, De Montfort
University, Dudley College of Technology, University of East Anglia,
University of East London, University of Glamorgan, The University of
Huddersfield, University of Lincolnshire and Humberside, Liverpool
Community College, Liverpool John Moores Univ, The London Institute,
University of Luton, University College Northampton, University of
Paisley, Sheffield Hallam University, Shrewsbury College of Arts &
Technology, Southampton Institute, St Helens College, Staffordshire
University, The University of Stirling, University of Sunderland,
University of Teesside, Thames Valley University, The University of
Ulster, University College Warrington, Wirral Metropolitan College, and
University College Worcester, are all shite in your books are they?
Alistair Mann
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To be fair, I took media studies at O level as I thought it was a soft
option. That thought turned out to be true.
Come to think of it, half the above list look like they used to be
polytechnics: I don't see the OU, Oxford or Cambridge anywhere among them...
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Martin B
went to Brunel Uni ( not in the list) - they don't so Media Studies as far
as I'm aware ( and it does sound like a soft "in the SU bar degree" anyway).
Actually my friend tells me that Coventry Uni ( an ex poly - but who cares)
is a great place for Media Studies!
Martin
Alistair Mann <Via...@lgeezer.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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Matthew M. Huntbach
> > In article <7lq2dv$jfj$7...@beta.qmw.ac.uk>, Matthew M. Huntbach
> > <m...@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> penned
> > >Any university that does a mickey mouse course like Media Studies
> > >isn't a good one.
> I see. In other words, the University of Birmingham, Univ of Central
> Lancashire, Chelt & Glos College, Coventry University, De Montfort
> University, Dudley College of Technology, University of East Anglia,
> University of East London, University of Glamorgan, The University of
> Huddersfield, University of Lincolnshire and Humberside, Liverpool
> Community College, Liverpool John Moores Univ, The London Institute,
> University of Luton, University College Northampton, University of
> Paisley, Sheffield Hallam University, Shrewsbury College of Arts &
> Technology, Southampton Institute, St Helens College, Staffordshire
> University, The University of Stirling, University of Sunderland,
> University of Teesside, Thames Valley University, The University of
> Ulster, University College Warrington, Wirral Metropolitan College, and
> University College Worcester, are all shite in your books are they?
Now, I suppose you want a serious answer rather than a flip throwaway
comment such as I originally gave. Well, this is usenet, and usenet is
about flip throwaway answers. If you wanted a serious article on higher
education, I could provide one, I would obviously write it in a lot more
detail, with a lot more ifs and buts in it. I would probably like to be paid
for the effort put into serious writing, whereas I am happy to issue flip
throwaway comments for free.
But, let's be a little serious about this. When people say "good university"
they generally mean one that is high in the various league tables that are
published. Now, there is a lot wrong with those league tables, and no-one
should regard them as anything more than a crude guide. However, it is a fact
that some universities are respected more than others, and the order of respect
corresponds roughly tho those league tables. When people apply to university
they will generally go to the university highest in this pecking order that
they can get into.
The universities and colleges you name above are, almost universally, right
at the bottom of all standard rankings of universities - there are just one
or two exceptions to this. They are the sort of universities that most
applicants won't go to if they have the chance to go somewhere else. They
are the sort of university that takes you if you have nothing but E grades
at A-level. Several of them have (e.g. Thames Valley, Southampton Institute)
have been in the news recently over concerns about their academic standards.
So you do rather prove my point.
Matthew Huntbach
mike_s
Alistair Mann <Via...@lgeezer.demon.co.uk> penned
>To be fair, I took media studies at O level as I thought it was a soft
>option. That thought turned out to be true.
I found Economics piss easy at O Level, but that doesn't follow that a
degree course in the subject would be as easy.
Katrina
<mi...@nospam.demon.co.uk> writes
>In article <931309206.27041.0...@news.demon.co.uk>,
>Alistair Mann <Via...@lgeezer.demon.co.uk> penned
>
>>To be fair, I took media studies at O level as I thought it was a soft
>>option. That thought turned out to be true.
>
>I found Economics piss easy at O Level, but that doesn't follow that a
>degree course in the subject would be as easy.
How true
There are things that I was taught at 'O' level that I was told to
forget about at 'A'
I am talking about Botany of course...
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mike_s
<m...@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> penned
>Tristán White (Trista...@rocketmail.com) wrote:
>> > In article <7lq2dv$jfj$7...@beta.qmw.ac.uk>, Matthew M. Huntbach
>> > <m...@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> penned
>
>. Several of them have (e.g. Thames Valley, Southampton Institute)
>have been in the news recently over concerns about their academic standards.
>So you do rather prove my point.
Not at all. For your assertion to hold water you'd have to prove that
*every* single University offering a media studies course is a bad one.
(Your exact words: "Any university that does a mickey mouse course like
Media Studies isn't a good one")
Now are you going to stick to that rather silly assertion or try to
wriggle out of it?
Or, preferably, admit that you're quite wrong.
Tristán White
<SNIP>
>The universities and colleges you name above are, almost universally, right
>at the bottom of all standard rankings of universities - there are just one
OK, you've redeemed yourself with this comment.... :-)
However, there are some former polys in that list that are superb in one or
two subjects, particularly in subjects of a more scientific nature. I know
Media Studies isn't scientific, but I am sure that most of the colleges in
that list do come out top at one or two subjects.
Anyway, I don't know why I'm defending them.... I went to a 'proper'
university, and one you know quite well. :-)
TRISTÁN
former Spanish/French graduate at Westfield College (QMW-Hampstead),
currently part-time PhD at QMW, University of London.
Matthew M. Huntbach
> In article <7lv6gi$aac$1...@beta.qmw.ac.uk>, Matthew M. Huntbach
> <m...@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> penned
> >Tristán White (Trista...@rocketmail.com) wrote:
> >> > In article <7lq2dv$jfj$7...@beta.qmw.ac.uk>, Matthew M. Huntbach
> >> > <m...@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> penned
> >Several of them have (e.g. Thames Valley, Southampton Institute)
> >have been in the news recently over concerns about their academic standards.
> >So you do rather prove my point.
> Not at all. For your assertion to hold water you'd have to prove that
> *every* single University offering a media studies course is a bad one.
> (Your exact words: "Any university that does a mickey mouse course like
> Media Studies isn't a good one")
> Now are you going to stick to that rather silly assertion or try to
> wriggle out of it?
> Or, preferably, admit that you're quite wrong.
As I said, it was a flip comment, not a considered scientifically proved
viewpoint. I always supposed articles in a group like uk.local.london were
like the sort of conversation you might have in a pub, not like the sort of
serious stuff you might have to write as part of your job. Once again, Mike -
lighten up!
The serious point behind my comment is that there is a strong tendency for
the more highly regarded universities to stick to the established academic
subjects, and for those which are less regarded to run the more unusual
sounding courses, either geared to vocations, or more blatantly geared simply
to attract bums on seats with something that sounds pleasant to spend three
years doing, and not too taxing on the mind.
Media studies degrees are something of a con, because they give the impression
that they'll lead you into a high-powered job in the media, whereas in fact
you will find the top media employers prefer to take graduates in the more
traditional arts subjects from the top-ranking universities.
Matthew Huntbach
mike_s
<m...@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> penned
>The serious point behind my comment is that there is a strong tendency for
>the more highly regarded universities to stick to the established academic
>subjects, and for those which are less regarded to run the more unusual
>sounding courses, either geared to vocations, or more blatantly geared simply
>to attract bums on seats with something that sounds pleasant to spend three
>years doing, and not too taxing on the mind.
Well, I guess I have a certain amount of self interest here, as I
lecture at Brighton University (does that count as one of your 'bad'
universities?). I teach html/web/multimedia skills to graphic
design/illustration graduates and can certainly vouch that it is a
*much* needed skill, hugely in demand.
I find it rather strange that so few universities offer decent
multimedia training to art-based students: there's *piles* of work out
there for technically proficient graduates with an understanding of
graphics/arts (i.e. they don't think that ten-ton, 3D spinning globes
represent the state of the art when it comes to web design).
Matthew M. Huntbach
> In article <7lvvdv$h9i$2...@beta.qmw.ac.uk>, Matthew M. Huntbach
> <m...@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> penned
> >The serious point behind my comment is that there is a strong tendency for
> >the more highly regarded universities to stick to the established academic
> >subjects, and for those which are less regarded to run the more unusual
> >sounding courses, either geared to vocations, or more blatantly geared simply
> >to attract bums on seats with something that sounds pleasant to spend three
> >years doing, and not too taxing on the mind.
> Well, I guess I have a certain amount of self interest here, as I
> lecture at Brighton University (does that count as one of your 'bad'
> universities?).
No, it's one of the better ex-polies, and does a very reasonable job.
> I teach html/web/multimedia skills to graphic
> design/illustration graduates and can certainly vouch that it is a
> *much* needed skill, hugely in demand.
Indeed. I've nothing against serious graphic design degrees, and with
modern developments of course that sort of degree is going to have to
have a lot of computer stuff in it these days.
> I find it rather strange that so few universities offer decent
> multimedia training to art-based students: there's *piles* of work out
> there for technically proficient graduates with an understanding of
> graphics/arts
Problem is that anyone who's any good at that sort of stuff can probably
earn pots more doing some other job. Plus the only thing that counts these
days in employing someone as a university lecturer is how many research
publications they can get. If they can teach useful skills but haven't got
a research record, they're not wanted.
Matthew Huntbach
mike_s
<m...@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> penned
>Problem is that anyone who's any good at that sort of stuff can probably
>earn pots more doing some other job.
Indeed. But many visiting lecturers in my field *are* already busy with
their own jobs, but feel it worthwhile to pass on their knowledge to
students - believe me, it certainly isn't for the money!
> Plus the only thing that counts these
>days in employing someone as a university lecturer is how many research
>publications they can get. If they can teach useful skills but haven't got
>a research record, they're not wanted.
That's not that always the case. I have no 'research record' whatsoever,
but as a practising, reasonably successful web designer have a lot to
teach students.
Tiny
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Possibly because your school did not bother to access another
board which ran the course. I got mine to give me Biology with Human
Biology (Botany was offered) speciality. Another did a Botany A level.
Katrina
<tcli...@hotmail.com> writes
>Possibly because your school did not bother to access another
>board which ran the course. I got mine to give me Biology with Human
>Biology (Botany was offered) speciality. Another did a Botany A level.
>
>
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Sax of London
>That list must be accurate and therefore all those Uni's must be shite! I
>went to Brunel Uni ( not in the list)
You have my condolences... Brunel must surely be a candidate for the
ugliest campus in Britain.
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Tiny
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Make allowances for old age....
Mine only did AEB, but nagged until I got what I needed. I did not see the
point in wasting the Human Biology O Level, by doing a different speciality.