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Koos Nolst Trenite

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In "Science," Sociopaths Will Determine "Who is a Sociopath,"
and "Who is Not a Sociopath"

1 September 2009
{HRI 20090901-V2.0}

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According to the Sociopath's Science Journalism (abbreviated
'SSJ') at LiveScience.com,

'Sociopaths are to determine FOR us, with "science," "Who is a
Sociopath," and "Who is not a Sociopath",' "scientifically"

- of course NOT by examining a person, but by looking only at his
body's brain...

(in Sociopath's "science," YOU do not exist), and

- of course they do so, "by NOT looking at you as you are"

(which a sociopath indeed refuses to do, thus NOT looking
at a person's soul)

...but at a body's brain, instead... *(n)

'

And you - the total dimwits you are and have let yourself be
made into, *(n)

your "education" being determined for you by sociopaths,
in your highly destructive Blindness, *(n)

you "scientifically" AGREE with it,

- with "science" as it is DEFINED in the (sociopathic) Criminal Mind:

as "the systematic OMISSION of the really relevant data." *(n)

'

'

'Hoe kan dat nou, Koos!' a "Humanist" study-friend of
mine (of Delft University) used to say, while he
maliciously denies the most relevant data of life
and people to exist...

'Humanist' supposing to refer to materialism
- the doctrine, that "you do not exist;" and

'Hoe kan dat nou, Koos!' being an expression
to demand, that "if HE can't see the wind,
then wind 'does not exist'," which gives of
course very interesting "explanations" by
the Criminal Mind, of such things as whirling
leaves and sweeping branches, and waves on
the water - very "scientific" explanations.

"Wind does not exist! 'How could it be
otherwise, Koos!'" is what he projects, in
order to feel very right about his desire to
be intensely stupid, and not only for himself,
but much more so, FOR OTHERS to remain so...

a social misfit actually, who believes
and who "proves," that "HE is the one
who DOES fit:"

You and all people being made stupid,
he does not stick out anymore as WANTING
himself and others to be exceedingly
irrational, calling himself "rational."
'

'

That's what these want, of course: that they and other SOCIOPATHS are
to determine "Who is a Sociopath," and "Who is Not a Sociopath,"

and, in order to force you - your 'health care' providers, and the
legal system backing it up - (in order to force you) to agree,

their view has to be made to seem "scientific," to you, and to your
children at school:

You have already been taught - you have already been dazed into
accepting - "what is 'scientific' and what is not" -

"scientific" AS HAS BEEN DETERMINED BY SOCIOPATHS.

'

They - sociopaths in "science" - want to have YOUR agreement,

you being severely lacking in Sanity *(n) indeed - in the
vernacular, that means 'you are complete idiots' - you
have ALREADY agreed with the sociopaths,

that "your thinking is done by your brain:"

This makes YOU a dangerous Criminal to the society, if you
comply with that idea,

a drug pusher or drug taker, an evil "researcher,"
a malicious "educator," *(n)(n)

an evil "journalist," *(n)(n)

- Elsevier's weekly magazine did a
comprehensive issue "to explain headaches,
and 'cures' for it," *(n)

which was not only wholly mendacious - you
can imagine, if you think feeling is done
by your brain - but of course UTTERLY
DESTRUCTIVE to those suffering from the
very painful and debilitating ailment,

and of course, it was pushing DRUGS -

it makes you professionally a quack, a charlatan,
AT THE VERY BEST, if you comply with that idea,
*(n)(n)

which the Licensed Medical Quackery largely does.
*(n)(n)(n)(n)

'

They - who are sociopaths in "science" - do want to have YOUR
AGREEMENT,

that "they can look at a brain scan of someone," and then
tell you

- and you "having to agree scientifically" -

that NOT the "scientist" himself is a sociopath, but

that the victim of their entirely malicious, sociopathic
"science,"

which you have agreed to and which malice you teach
your children at school and universities, (!)

is letting SOCIOPATHS - with your "scientific" agreement -
determine, WHO

which person "is a sociopath," or "is not a sociopath."

I never told you before, but it is so, that Criminal Minds
want to have everything IN REVERSE.

'

You can imagine, that I would not want to be born as a child with you,
as it would be highly dangerous and unsafe to be your child,

if you subscribe to and have been successfully dazed into
accepting "our science" - the "science" from sociopaths -

which you have accepted, as you are obviously NOT VERY LOUDLY
protesting it, AT ALL.

'


Now WHERE are all your Celebrities, with all their millons
of dollars in their bank accounts and their investments
in their houses, etc.,

and their "good intentions" for you,

WHERE are all the billionaire "philanthropists" with their
"charitable foundations" etc.,

and their "good intentions" for you,

WHERE is the United Nations World Health Organization,
etc.,

and their "good intentions" for you,

WHERE are all the 'Amnesties International,' the 'Human
Rights Watches,' and the 'Medical Doctors Without Their
Borders' etc.,

and their "good intentions" for you:

'

Nobody to protect your life FROM sociopaths, FROM THEIR "sciences?"

To my knowledge, I am the only one who does protect you -
and you do not even protect me,

but you enjoy all I did for you - and, if we limit it to
this life time, what I did for you, then

you are NOT EVEN distributing it to others who should and
can enjoy it and learn from it to safeguard THEIR lives
and - most importantly - YOUR life too.

But you are too dazed, you are kept too stupid by
sociopaths, to realize that.

...NOT a friend you are, despite the most beautiful poem I made
for you, requesting your friendship, and having offered and
offering all that is shown therein. *(n)

'

'

THEY - sociopaths - HAVE ALREADY TAKEN OVER the "science" of medicine,
and the "science" of fundamental "physics"

...you total, absolute dopes:

"Science" in the (sociopathic) Criminal Mind, is
DEFINED as "the systematic OMISSION of the most
relevant data, and directing INSTEAD all attention
onto the largely irrelevant or even outright wrong
data." *(n)

{definition}

Now you would not get the idea, that this
described 'to a T' your, or most all, present
school and university systems, would you...

'

'

'

SOCIOPATHS are (about) to determine "WHO is a Sociopath," and "WHO is
Not a Sociopath"

- and OF COURSE they want that, that THEY tell you "how to tell
'who is NOT a sociopath'," you absolutely dopes.

And of course THEY want to have a "science"

by which they can "detect" and "treat at an early age" whom THEY like
to be seen as "being a sociopath:"

'

'

Sociopaths are ALSO souls, and they can ALSO spiritually see - quite
contrary to their lies - and so they ALSO can see "who is dangerous
to them," "who will expose them."

And so they want to be able to get at any children of you, at an
early age.

But surely, you are far too much lacking in Sanity, *(n) to look
through the forceful lies of sociopaths. *(n)

THEY know very well, that you are a soul and not a brain, THEY
know very well, that your thinking and perception is done indeed
entirely spiritually or with Life Energy; THEY know very well,
that you will be living on and on and be reborn "to bother them
again,"

SO THEY TELL YOU, in order to "handle you," in order to make you
blind, that "you are not a soul, but are a brain," that "your
perception and feeling is not spiritual, but from your body,"
etc. etc. - all VICIOUS lies, the trade of sociopaths.

'

'

The VERY compassionate, VERY caring and VERY Beautiful
Jung Chang,

the writer of 'Wild Swans' - her autobiography about
her life in China, *(n)

AGREES, that her own father she loved dearly, HAS HIS
BRAIN tortured, his body largely destroyed, his soul
severely tormented,

INSTEAD of telling him WHO the sociopaths are who did
betray his love and care for people - which, telling him
the very simple truth, WOULD have returned Sanity to him,
to her father,

who was a good person facing too much Evil that he
was made to accept "as good" from Mao Zedong etc..

INSTEAD of returning his Sanity, they sent him TO
A HOSPITAL, where a sociopath, licensed Medical
Doctor tortured his brain, "scientifically,"

which REPEATED, announced torture, was worse
than death - he still could feel and say that,
to his daughter who put him there -

and after much "scientific" torture, he
finally decided, that the only way to end
the torture - as he was prevented from dying -
was, to decide to be Sane, to stop being
angry about the Intense Evil and inconceivable
INJUSTICE - the typical Communist Betrayal -
that he had been subjected to by Mao Zedong
etc..

'

You are so DESTRUCTIVELY Insane, *(n)

you are "scientifically" almost wholly in the hands of
sociopaths - certainly during your sleep - *(n)

and you are "scientifically" demanded to accept their
fairy tales about the Big Bangs and "The Universe," which
is too ridiculous for words, but you are teaching it

- "science" in the (sociopathic) Criminal Mind
being DEFINED as "the systematic OMISSION of
the most relevant data," *(n)

and so they even falsely defined 'Intelligence'
for you,

which - CORRECTLY - is the ability to CONNECT to
relevant data and to differentiate between the
data connected to -
{definition}

these people, individuals who can read and write and talk and
admire, but who are sociopaths,

they are, as other Demonic creatures do too, they are creating
and projecting Evil, Harmful Life Energy PARTICLES at your soul
and at your body: *(n)

This you do not teach your children about, nor your pupils, the most
BASIC and FIRST thing you have to be taught,

and instead, you teach them how to calculate the distance to the
Moon, to provide the ILLUSION, the sociopathic HYPNOTISM, that
"they are learning something," that "they are getting a (best)
education," it is to CAMOUFLAGE how destructive you are to
children (and to patients) who (do "have no other choice" than
to) trust you,

and that makes you a Criminal parent or teacher or professor, or a
Licensed Quack and Charlatan, as the case may be,

even when any malice - your REFUSAL to inform yourself and to study
the necessary data - is (hopefully) not present. *(n)

But if malice WERE NOT present in you, then you would follow
this Human Rights Issue, and, as you do not, your being guilty
of malice is proven herewith....

'

Postamble:

You are so INCONCEIVABLY lacking in Sanity... not to mention
your frightening desire to keep it so, to wait for "Salvation"
or else to tout "Evolution," and also for medical "science,"
or "modern physics" to come along for you - and "automatically
to make you (or else your children, or else their children)
into intelligent, happy and healthy persons" ...in your
"Brave New World," or in your "New Age," as the case may be.

'

'

'

I wrote earlier for you, about the "scientific" sociopaths:

Evil Creatures Fight for Evil BELIEFS, versus the Rational Truth*

18 Sept 2008
{HRI 20080918-V1.5.1}

(Version 1.5.1
on 15 Mar 2009)

(not suitable for
sociopaths)

'

I hope you get that now: THEY have beliefs, WE have the rational
truth.

THEY are Criminal Minds, and Criminal Minds have everything in
reverse, so

THEY claim the opposite, that "they have the rational and
scientific truth," and that "we have BELIEFS,"

while THEY have - INTENTIONALLY and maliciously - BELIEFS,
and WE have rational and scientific truth,

which you can find in Fine Particle Physics, and in
the Human Rights Issues.

'

'

In the present context, Evil Creatures INTENTIONALLY, and against all
rationality and proof, fight for the (obviously erroneous) BELIEF,

that "people are bodies and not souls,"

the rational truth being, that people are souls, and not bodies,
nor a brain;

'

'

Evil Creatures fight for the (obviously erroneous) BELIEF,

that "perception is not done spiritually," but "consists of the
stimulation of the body's sense-organs, including the brain,"

the rational truth being, that all perception is entirely
spiritual (done with Life Energy Particles) and IN ADDITION TO
THAT, may be, or may not be, conducted via the body's sense
organs; (***)

'

'

Evil Creatures fight for the (obviously erroneous) BELIEF,

that people's memory "is engraved on the molecules of the brain," and
that "(also) therefore, people, being brains, have not lived before
as souls,"

the rational truth being, that the soul is intimately connected
to the brain, through Life Energy Particles, and that memory is
stored in Life Energy Particles, in the soul, and that, with
Life Energy Particles, you connect to and thus become aware of
content;

most hilarious - or truly sad, should "incurable"
'diseases' like Alzheimer have beset you - is,

how Evil Creatures try to "explain" remissions or times of
sudden recovery of the ability to remember, etc. or how
they "explain" the sudden loss of memory;

'

'

Evil Creatures fight for the (obviously erroneous) BELIEF, that

"all perception and all memory is a delusion," or must be labeled
so if it is unwanted by Evil Creatures,

and if they want to label it in a more "polite" or in a "more
convincing" way, then they call it "your own reality" or "your
own truth,"

for the obvious reason of them not wanting witnesses to be
believed, and

- while truth is simply what happened, and is thus
absolute, as any sane person knows -

it is labeled by Evil Creatures as "being your delusion,"
for the reason of

them not wanting to be recognized and made responsible for the
Evil they inflict or inflicted on others, on you, especially in
the past of earlier lives:

"Nobody did it," or, they mean the same, by saying

"God inflicted it," or, they mean the same, that "they,
Criminal Minds, did not do it," and they say

"it is Karma," by which they mean, that "they, Criminal
Minds, did not do it," and they say instead, that

"suffering is necessary, and ultimately caused by
yourself."

Really... so when you hear those things, you know you are
listening to a Criminal Mind or to a follower of a
Criminal Mind.

'

'

Evil Creatures fight for the (obviously erroneous and medieval)
BELIEF, that "human Life only existed and only exists, on planet
Earth," and "existed not even on Mars,"

and in addition to that, the BELIEF, that "Einstein is
Intelligent," while they can not even DEFINE Intelligence

- see the HRI's for the definition of 'Intelligence' -

(shortest definition)

'ability to connect to data and to separate data,'

{definition} from {HRI 20080406-V4.6.2}

and "intelligence" amongst Evil Creatures - THEIR
"definition" of "Intelligence" - (Evil Intelligence) is
(who has the greatest)

'Ability to deceive others the longest and with the gravest
consequences' {definition}

(Einstein being 'their prophet' and Einstein failing
to use the of course major and first part of
Intelligence:

connecting to relevant and applicable, known data,

which Einstein COMPLETELY omitted to do and, as you
will be able to admit, that he omitted INTENTIONALLY
and thus maliciously (*))

contrasting wholly with the simple and very rational truth, being,
that there have been and are and will be infinite occasions of life
on an unimaginably vast amount of other planets, existing

- including heaven-like societies and also societies like hell -

not to mention other spiritual life. (**)

'

'

Evil Creatures fight for the (obviously erroneous and medieval)
BELIEF, that "Life after death is either paradisal, infernal, or
nihil," and "did not exist before their present birth," (**)

the rational truth being, that all people, being souls, have
lived before with or without own body and life, and will live
again very many life times, without or with an own body and
life;

Etcetera.

'

'

So I hope you get that now.

I repeat:

THEY have beliefs, WE have the rational truth.

THEY are Criminal Minds - Criminal Minds have everything in
reverse - and so THEY claim "to have the rational and scientific
truth" while having the very opposite,

and they claim, that the simple and rational truth, is "merely
beliefs."

But it is THEY, while they are countering and hiding the fact,
that they basically DO know the truth very well

- which is why they are fighting it so hard, and why they
know so very well WHAT and whom to fight -

THEY, INTENTIONALLY and maliciously, have BELIEFS, and

WE have (the) rational and scientific truth, which you can find back
in 'Fine Particle Physics,' and in the 'Human Rights Issues.'

'

Koos Nolst Trenite 'Cause Trinity'
human rights philosopher and poet

'Solomon's wisdom was greater
than the wisdom of
all the men of the East,
and greater
than all the wisdom of Egypt.'

1 Kings 4:30

_________
Footnotes:

(*) 'Evil Creatures Fight for Evil BELIEFS, versus the Rational
Truth' (ECFEB)
{HRI 20080918-V1.5.1}
(8 Sept 2008 - Version 1.5.1 on 15 Mar 2009)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/9dcf45b8b09b581c

(n) (to be added as indicated) - for instance:

'Definition Of Sanity' DOS
{HRI 20040410-V2.0.1}
(10 April 2004 - Version 2.0.1 on 12 May 2007)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics/msg/767aa8ad19019afb

'Definition Of Insane - Relation To Humor' (DOI)
{HRI 20030205-V2.4}
(5 Feb 2003 - Version 2.4 on 1 July 2008)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.military.naval/msg/020f0c2e172dab3d
'

__________
References:

'Definition of Peace' (DOP)
{HRI 20070520-V3.7.4}
(20 May 2007 - Version 3.7.4 on 5 June 2009)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.war.vietnam/msg/5ae1a4055a677ab0

'The First Law of Human Rights' (FLOHR)
{HRI 20060601-V3.5}
(1 June 2006 - Version 3.5 on 11 Dec 2008)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.military.naval/msg/d7365e4c1386ec07

'Obviously the Second Law Of Human Rights' (SLOHR)
{HRI 20060924-V3.2.1}
(24 September 2006 - Version 3.2.1 on 6 Aug 2007)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.military.naval/msg/f086d45d0aeefd59

'I am writing for you, for people whom I love and try to protect,
and who love and wish to protect me and others' - (includes
'Opposing The Nature Of The Creation' {HRI 20010829-pi6-V4.1})
(23 September 2006)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/b41ad00120e93276


(Quoting from the sociopath "journalists" at LiveScience.com)

Article:

'What Makes a Psychopath? Answers Remain Elusive'
- Mon Aug 31, 12:06 pm ET

by Charles Q. Choi
Special to LiveScience
LiveScience.com

[begin quote]

'Still, understanding the roots of psychopathy in the brain
hopefully will lead "to an ability to identify and negate the
problem," Newman said. "By finding out what predisposes someone
toward psychopathy and how these vulnerabilities interact with
the environment to give rise to a full-blown case of the
disorder, I believe one might be able to prevent the unfortunate
development of psychopathy." '

'Top 10 Mysteries of the Mind
Nature vs. Nurture: Mysteries of Individuality Unraveled
Suicide More Common Than Homicide
Original Story: What Makes a Psychopath? Answers Remain Elusive'

'LiveScience.com chronicles the daily advances and innovations
made in science and technology. We take on the misconceptions
that often pop up around scientific discoveries and deliver
short, provocative explanations with a certain wit and style.'

[end quote]

____________
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Copyright 2009 by Koos Nolst Trenite - human rights philosopher
and poet
This is 'learnware' - it may not be altered, and it is free for
anyone who learns from it and (even if he can not learn from it)
who passes it on unaltered, and with this message included,
to others who might be able to learn from it (but not to sociopaths
specifically, because these vehemently oppose any true knowledge
of life and about themselves).
None of my writings may be used, ever, to support any political
or religious or scientific or artistic "agenda," but only to educate,
and to encourage people to judge un-dominated and for themselves,
about any organizations or individuals.
Send free-of-Envy and free-of-Hate, Beautiful e-mails to:
PlatoWorld at Lycos.com

Nigel Oldfield

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On Sep 3, 6:12 am, Koos Nolst Trenite
>        (8 Sept 2008 - Version 1.5.1 on 15 Mar 2009)http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/9dcf45b8b09b581c

>
> (n)  (to be added as indicated) - for instance:
>
>      'Definition Of Sanity'  DOS
>       {HRI 20040410-V2.0.1}
>        (10 April 2004 - Version 2.0.1 on 12 May 2007)http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics/msg/767aa8ad19019afb

>
>      'Definition Of Insane - Relation To Humor' (DOI)
>       {HRI 20030205-V2.4}
>        (5 Feb 2003 - Version 2.4 on 1 July 2008)http://groups.google.com/group/sci.military.naval/msg/020f0c2e172dab3d

> '
>
> __________
> References:
>
>      'Definition of Peace'  (DOP)
>       {HRI 20070520-V3.7.4}
>        (20 May 2007 - Version 3.7.4 on 5 June 2009)http://groups.google.com/group/alt.war.vietnam/msg/5ae1a4055a677ab0

>
>      'The First Law of Human Rights'  (FLOHR)
>       {HRI 20060601-V3.5}
>        (1 June 2006 - Version 3.5 on 11 Dec 2008)http://groups.google.com/group/sci.military.naval/msg/d7365e4c1386ec07

>
>      'Obviously the Second Law Of Human Rights'  (SLOHR)
>       {HRI 20060924-V3.2.1}
>        (24 September 2006 - Version 3.2.1 on 6 Aug 2007)http://groups.google.com/group/sci.military.naval/msg/f086d45d0aeefd59

>
>      'I am writing for you, for people whom I love and try to protect,
>       and who love and wish to protect me and others' - (includes
>       'Opposing The Nature Of The Creation' {HRI 20010829-pi6-V4.1})
>         (23 September 2006)http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/b41ad00120e93276

The Man decides.

WM

Cynic

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Did you enjoy scrolling thought that long post to read something that
added nothing of import?

--
Cynic


Phil Stovell

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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 14:50:23 +0100, Cynic wrote:

<snip 9,321,489 lines>

> Did you enjoy scrolling thought that long post to read something that
> added nothing of import?

ROFL!

Plato Been

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The Human Rights Issues are obviously not written, nor published, to
accommodate, to oblige, nor to appease sociopaths.

Friendly relations with sociopaths are entirely impossible,

and any Love whatsoever, given to them, will only be used by
them to become more devious, and to destroy life more, and
more thoroughly.

'

Therefore, such individuals - sociopaths and their supporters - are
enjoined to filter out any such articles

- not written for them, not meant for them, and not posted for
them.

'

Again:

Sociopaths, demonic creatures and mental street bums

- and any such souls who "live" by Hate, by Envy or
by Ugliness -

must filter out from their own view,

all writing by Koos Nolst Trenite,
human rights philosopher and poet (hrp&p).

'

The command is argued in this way:

'Demonic creatures etc. have NO PERMISSION to talk to me'
{Note 20071207-V2.0.2}
(7 December 2007 - Version 2.0.2 on 30 Oct 2008)

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.christian/msg/b1d32391e51d3107
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.islam/msg/b1d32391e51d3107
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.jewish/msg/b1d32391e51d3107
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.wicca/msg/b1d32391e51d3107

'

'

Koos Nolst Trenite is arguably by far the most Intelligent, by far
the most Beautiful and by far the most Caring philosopher known,

and on top of that, the most Truthful and most trusted philosopher
known on Earth and beyond.

Copyright 2008-2009 by KNT hrp&p
(May 2008; Version 1.2 on 16 Aug 2009)
Conditions as usual ('learnware')


On Sep 3, 7:12 am, Koos Nolst Trenite

> (8 Sept 2008 - Version 1.5.1 on 15 Mar 2009)http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/9dcf45b8b09b581c


>
> (n) (to be added as indicated) - for instance:
>
> 'Definition Of Sanity' DOS
> {HRI 20040410-V2.0.1}

> (10 April 2004 - Version 2.0.1 on 12 May 2007)http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics/msg/767aa8ad19019afb


>
> 'Definition Of Insane - Relation To Humor' (DOI)
> {HRI 20030205-V2.4}

> (5 Feb 2003 - Version 2.4 on 1 July 2008)http://groups.google.com/group/sci.military.naval/msg/020f0c2e172dab3d


> '
>
> __________
> References:
>
> 'Definition of Peace' (DOP)
> {HRI 20070520-V3.7.4}

> (20 May 2007 - Version 3.7.4 on 5 June 2009)http://groups.google.com/group/alt.war.vietnam/msg/5ae1a4055a677ab0


>
> 'The First Law of Human Rights' (FLOHR)
> {HRI 20060601-V3.5}

> (1 June 2006 - Version 3.5 on 11 Dec 2008)http://groups.google.com/group/sci.military.naval/msg/d7365e4c1386ec07


>
> 'Obviously the Second Law Of Human Rights' (SLOHR)
> {HRI 20060924-V3.2.1}

> (24 September 2006 - Version 3.2.1 on 6 Aug 2007)http://groups.google.com/group/sci.military.naval/msg/f086d45d0aeefd59


>
> 'I am writing for you, for people whom I love and try to protect,
> and who love and wish to protect me and others' - (includes
> 'Opposing The Nature Of The Creation' {HRI 20010829-pi6-V4.1})

> (23 September 2006)http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/b41ad00120e93276

Nigel Oldfield

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On Sep 3, 2:50 pm, Cynic <cynic_...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 02:42:14 -0700 (PDT), Nigel Oldfield
>

... did you?

WM

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