Honest Dutch culture, versus Islam: Saint Nicholas (Sinterklaas) versus "prophet" Mohammed (Mahommad) - plus References - {HRI note 20100919-V1.1}
Koos Nolst Trenite
"prophet" Mohammed (Mahommad)
19 September 2010
{HRI note 20100919-V1.1}
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'Everyone has the right, audibly or visually to
communicate constructively - and in an educated,
or informed, or observing way - to others and
to the society, about any matter and about any
person; and doing so, will by its very nature
offend some individuals and some, possibly even
large, groups.'
The First Correct Human Rights Declaration
ARTICLE TWO - {HRD-02 20100102-V1.5}
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The Islamists - fundamental or orthodox Muslim "believers," as in
Muslim dominated countries - believe, that "God speaks," and that
"his words are those of Islam's 'prophet' Mahommad,"
the verbiage of which, is recorded in the "holy" Qur'an (Quran,
Koran) book.
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Much like claiming "God has told you, that 'the moon is square'," and
then demanding, that everyone believes that,
"because God has said so himself," and
"he talks to no one else, so this is the final truth:
The moon is square - and that some see it round, is
just a dangerous illusion, and is 'proof' of such a
person being a destructive unbeliever."
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The Dutch believe, that Saint Nicholas - riding on his horse to visit
every Dutch household in December - knows all about you, and brings
presents accordingly, on the 5th of December
- this is possible, because he has a fast horse, and a lot of
(black skinned, Spanish-dressed) helpers.
The Dutch have the decency, however, to clear their children up about
the truth of the matter,
usually when these, the Dutch children, have reached the age of
casting off make-beliefs - around age six or so.
And so also I was cleared up, and stopped arguing with class
mates in school, who had become unbelievers in the beliefs
that children were kept in and delighted in.
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So I clear you - you having passed the age of six - I clear you up
now, about the fallacy of "the brotherhood" of Islam, and of the
"holy" Koran book, to END THE MAKE-BELIEF.
'Proof: The Holy Quran (Koran) in all its lines, is Blasphemy
only - Islam KNOWS NOTHING about life, and ALL its claims are
FALSE - (incl. Definition of Blasphemy)'
{HRI 20100718-V1.4}
(18 July 2010 - Version 1.4 on 11 Aug 2010)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion/msg/a54f1106e838f9ea
'Islam Will Be Abolished In The Process Of Civilizing Earth'
{HRI 20100812-V1.2.1} (IWBA)
(12 August 2010 - Version 1.2.1 on 19 Aug 2010)
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.veterans/msg/56ae8ca3c4574a41
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Indeed, God is not an individual, and DOES NOT TALK, intend, organize,
look, remember, etc. etc.:
INDIVIDUALS DO, and there are those, who manage to be looked up
to, so much, that people call them "a God," or even "God."
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By its very definition, though, God is NOT an individual, and DOES
NOT TALK etc.:
That is called monotheism.
God is NOT an individual, but rather, is the Source Energy of
The Creation,
which Energy is characterized by Intense Love, Soul-baring
Truth, and Aliveness-causing Beauty,
and WITHOUT the opposites of these:
NO 'revenge,' NO Ugliness, NO punishment, NO judgment, etc.,
and NO TALK.
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Someone can - someone may very well be able to - talk to
someone WITHOUT using the body for it
- as you know.
This does NOT mean, that "the other person IS GOD."
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OK? Now tell that to all those who claim or claimed "to talk
with God."
They ALL are deceived BY AN INDIVIDUAL, whom they 'talk' to or
'listen to' without using a body,
they are talking to a very dishonest individual INDEED,
or - sporadically - they are the liars themselves,
such as in the case of 'the "prophet" Mohammed,'
who MADE UP all the stories and phrases of the
"holy" Qur'an (Koran) ENTIRELY BY HIMSELF, while
borrowing heavily from earlier sources.
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'Defining God correctly - and Heaven, and Hell - What is
Monotheism' (DGC)
{HRI 20080406-V4.9.1}
(6 April 2008 - Version 4.9.1 on 12 Jan 2009)
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/c501bff35c6e8af4
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But the Islamists - fundamental or orthodox Muslim "believers" -
believe,
aided by earlier such very debilitating and ENTIRELY FALSE
beliefs,
that "God speaks," and they believe,
that "his words are those of Islam's 'prophet' Mohammed,"
the verbiage of which is recorded in Arabic, in the "holy"
Qur'an (Quran, Koran) book,
"which you can not understand by yourself,"
because it is psychotic gibberish, and blasphemy from beginning
to end, but you can memorize these, and then
"you need Imams" or other religious fanatics, out to dominate and to
sour the lives of others, who "need Imams"
"in order to explain to you, 'what God's will and command is'."
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Much like claiming, that "God has told you, that 'the moon is
square'," and then demanding, that everyone believes that,
"because God has said so himself."
And "he, God, talks to no one else (than to whoever claims to be
a 'prophet' of God), so this is the final truth:"
"The moon is square - and that some do see it as being round, is
just a dangerous illusion, and is 'proof' of such a person being
an unbeliever."
"Do not befriend unbelievers!" These might tell you, that the Moon is
actually round, and thus these make you into an un-believer.
Now you (again) know why "...you must not befriend unbelievers."
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'Islam Will Be Abolished In The Process Of Civilizing Earth'
{HRI 20100812-V1.2.1} (IWBA)
(12 August 2010 - Version 1.2.1 on 19 Aug 2010)
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.veterans/msg/56ae8ca3c4574a41
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Again: God DOES NOT TALK, etc. - only INDIVIDUALS DO.
Extremely dumb religious authorities of indeed very questionable
intentions for you, do protect the various charlatans within
their group,
who are claiming "to talk with God",
because those charlatans exactly PROVIDE these religious
fanatics, who are out to dominate others, with "the
authority" "of God,"
in order to 'explain and enforce' that, "what God wants
or says," onto the religious group,
meaning, that, what the loudest charlatan - speaking "with
God himself," says.
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It is INDIVIDUALS ONLY, like Saints, and like Jesus Christ did in the
extreme - INDIVIDUALS, with or without body, do perform what you call
miracles,
and INDIVIDUALS were able to create things, know things, heal things,
etc., using the Source Energy of The Creation (God defined correctly)
- but you say 'miracles,' because you HAVE BEEN MADE to not
understand anymore how it works, how miracles are performed:
In that, you are AS barbarian as those very individuals,
whom YOU accuse of "being barbarian" when
these assign all thunder and lighting as "caused by God."
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If you DO again want to understand 'miracles' in any field, then of
course you have to study Life, and Life's Energy, as in
The Introduction to Fine Particle Physics {iFPP}
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Koos Nolst Trenite 'Cause Trinity'
human rights philosopher and poet
'God gave Solomon wisdom
and very great insight,
and a breadth of understanding
as measureless
as the sand on the seashore.'
1 Kings 4:29
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Footnotes:
(as indicated)
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References:
' 'Trapped by Allah:' The Muslim True Believers'
{HRI 20100121-V1.2.1}
(21 January 2010 - Version 1.2.1 on 27 Jan 2010)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion/msg/98b03686b9e2f339
(and further as applicable)
________
External:
'The Origin Of Veiling The Women In Islam And Its Present Role'
Author: Dr. R. Brahmachari
Thursday, January 03, 2008
http://www.news.faithfreedom.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1679
... /index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1679
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*us*
The Peeler
>Islam isn't a threat.
Who needs it? This is the 21st century not the 7th.
*us*
Only cowardly dupes believe otherwise.
Ala
"* US *" wrote in message news:455c9691vj2nt19om...@4ax.com...
> Islam isn't a threat.
>
> Only cowardly dupes believe otherwise.
http://www.itar-tass.com/eng/level2.html?NewsID=15465131&PageNum=2
Russia, Israel sign long-term military cooperation agreement
06.09.2010, 14.51
MOSCOW, September 6 (Itar-Tass) -- Russia and Israel have signed a
long-term military cooperation agreement, Russian Defence Minister Anatoly
Serdyukov reported on Monday.
"We have just signed a long-term agreement on military cooperation between
the two defence ministries. We have discussed a number of issues of
military-technical cooperation," Serdyukov said after talks with his
visiting Israeli counterpart Ehud Barak.
The particulars of the document have not been made public but a Russian
defence ministry spokesman told Itar-Tass that it was a framework agreement
spelling out general directions of military cooperation between the two
countries. "It will create a legal basis for further agreements on
cooperation in specific areas and for contracts in the area of military
technical cooperation," he said.
bod
> Islam isn't a threat.
>
> Only cowardly dupes believe otherwise.
>
>
And why would these people who disagree with you, be cowards?
--
Bod
The Peeler
>Islam isn't a threat.
>
>Only cowardly dupes believe otherwise.
You are both a dupe and an ANUS. Islam belongs back in the 7th
century.
bod
As do most other religions too, but I agree, especially Islam.
--
Bod
Greg Carr
>Islam isn't a threat.
Radical Islam is a threat as 9/11, the Bali bombing, the London train
bombing and the Mumbai massacres show.
bod
I don't think that 'US' reads or watches the news.
--
Bod
*us*
>On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 09:50:31 -0400, * ANUS * wrote:
>
>>Islam isn't a threat.
>>
>>Only cowardly dupes believe otherwise.
>
>... a dupe ...
The neocons fooled you too easily.
*us*
>On 19/09/2010 14:50, * US * wrote:
>> Islam isn't a threat.
>>
>> Only cowardly dupes believe otherwise.
>
>...cowards...
You fear imaginary things.
*us*
As if the American taxpayer would get a discount ...
*us*
Only cowardly dupes believe otherwise.
9/11 was an inside job.
*us*
>I don't think ...
That's why you got fooled by the neocons' lies.
*us*
>On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 08:49:38 -0400, * US * wrote:
>
>>Islam isn't a threat.
>Radical Islam is a threat as 9/11 ...
9/11 had nothing to do with Islam.
Ray Fischer
>Honest Dutch culture versus Islam: Saint Nicholas (Sinterklaas) versus
Bigot logic...
[Extremists] are [Muslims] so [Muslims] are dangerous and evil
Same logic ...
[Nazis] are [Christians] so [Christians] are dangerous and evil
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
The Peeler
Shut up, ANUS.
Greg Carr
Your a kook. The NYPD and NYFD which lost scores of ppl in the 9/11
incident believe it was Osama Bin-Laden who did it and he took
responsibility for it. He is also a Muslim.
Greg Carr
Without Islam 9/11 wouldn't have happened nor the London bombing, the
Bali bombing and the Mumbai massacre.
The Peeler
Where'd you hear that, ANUS? Al Jazeera?
ŁĆ§RĐÄ$$Š
9/11 had everything to do with radical Islam.
That Christian jackass, book burner Terry Jones lost his Church's tax free
status because he was using the members of his congregation as unpaid
"slaves". That's why he was so desperate. Even right wing Reverend Pat
Robertson condemned his actions.
Reverned Fred Phelps of the Westboro Baptist Church has a congregation of
about as many, and they protest the funerals of the brave and the few, US
soldiers because they hate fags.
Jim Jones, well his was a Christian "Church" as well.
Radical Christians fomenting hate and mass suicide.
But you'll never see that side of the story discussed on Hannity, O'Reilly
or Beck. That's too politically incorrect and might hurt their feelings!
Nobody in their right mind supports extremists.
Spartan613
"* US *" wrote in message news:jnrc969k5avpr6cv4...@4ax.com...
Even if that were true (which I don't believe for one moment), how do you
account for the Bali bombings?
(I noticed you left it out in your response.)
--
"God is not on the side of the big battalions, but of those who shoot the
best". Voltaire..
Chandler Bing
> "* US *" wrote in messagenews:jnrc969k5avpr6cv4...@4ax.com...
> > On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 17:45:26 +0100, bod <bodro...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >>I don't think ...
>
> > That's why you got fooled by the neocons' lies.
>
> > 9/11 was an inside job.
>
> Even if that were true (which I don't believe for one moment), how do you
> account for the Bali bombings?
>
> (I noticed you left it out in your response.)
>
But there are certainly crazy people from opposed political sides who
agree with either one or the other statement.
Norm
> Even if that were true (which I don't believe for one moment), how do you
> account for the Bali bombings?
>
> (I noticed you left it out in your response.)
>
Far more victims of radical Islamist terrorism are Muslims than are not.
Before 9/11 happened in the USA, the biggest terroist action against North
American citizens was McVeigh in 1995, and before that the record was the Air
India bombing of a 747 where around 270 Canadians died, most of them were of
Indian heritage. Canadians didn't go out and make life bad for Sikhs,
because Canadians realized that the perpetrators were radicals.
On the other side of the story, the Air India bombing that killed so many
didn't create outrage because the people who died were Canadians, but of
Indian heritage. Not from the traditional founding ethinic groups.
Seymour Bush
So are white, christian American ex-servicemen, as Timothy McVeigh showed.
--
Toodle-pip!
Seymour
bod
You believe in imaginary things.
Bod
bod
You are a nutjob.
Bod
*us*
On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 22:43:54 GMT, Greg Carr <greg...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>... a kook...
You believe all the lies Bush and Cheney told, don't you.
*us*
>On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 16:39:50 +0000, Greg Carr wrote:
>> ...a threat ...
>
>... white, christian American ex-servicemen, as Timothy McVeigh showed.
At first, he found it difficult to kill Iraqis.
*us*
>On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 16:14:13 -0400, * US * wrote:
>>On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 16:39:50 GMT, Greg Carr <greg...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>>On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 08:49:38 -0400, * US * wrote:
>>>
>>>>Islam isn't a threat.
>>
>>>Radical Islam is a threat as 9/11 ...
>>
>>9/11 had nothing to do with Islam.
>... 9/11 wouldn't have happened ...
Not without Bush and Cheney.
*us*
>Far more victims ...
Bush and Cheney are mass murderers.
*us*
>... the Bali bombings...
Al Qaeda is CIA.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=1032
On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 17:45:26 +0100, bod <bodr...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>I don't think ...
That's why you got fooled by the neocons' lies.
9/11 was an inside job.
*us*
>9/11 was ...
It was an inside job.
*us*
*us*
>...believe in imaginary things.
>Bod
You wouldn't do that if you were more healthy.
*us*
>On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 09:50:31 -0400, * US * wrote:
>>Islam isn't a threat.
>>
>>Only cowardly dupes believe otherwise.
>
>... a dupe ...
The neocons fooled you too easily.
You hate Americans for their freedom
of expression, don't you.
*us*
>... a nutjob.
>Bod
You even believe Bush when he claims God speaks through him.
On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 22:43:54 GMT, Greg Carr <greg...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>... a kook...
You believe all the lies Bush and Cheney told, don't you.
Islam isn't a threat.
The Peeler
You use freedom of expression to disseminate lies, don't you, ANUS?
*us*
>On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 09:50:31 -0400, * US * wrote:
>>Islam isn't a threat.
>>
>>Only cowardly dupes believe otherwise.
>
>... a dupe ...
The neocons fooled you too easily.
You hate Americans for their freedom
of expression, don't you.
Notice how even the most desperate bushkultie can't dispute it.
Greg Carr
9/11 wasn't an inside job it was done by foreigners who were all
Muslim. The London bombing was done by Muslims, the Bali bombing was
done by Muslims and the Mumbia massacre was done by Muslims. Muslim
insurgents in the Philippines continue to kill ppl.
*us*
The Peeler
Shut up, ANUS. Go back to the 7th Century.
Spartan613
"* US *" wrote in message news:68le96p9a9gbv5bjm...@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 11:30:01 +1000, "Spartan613" <nos...@buggeroff.com>
> wrote:
>
>>... the Bali bombings...
>
> Al Qaeda is CIA.
Let me see if I can illuminate your delusion.....
Amrozi and those other shitskin monkeys were a CIA Agents?
Plank
>
> "* US *" wrote in message
> news:68le96p9a9gbv5bjm...@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 11:30:01 +1000, "Spartan613"
>> <nos...@buggeroff.com> wrote:
>>
>>> ... the Bali bombings...
>>
>> Al Qaeda is CIA.
>
> Let me see if I can illuminate your delusion.....
>
> Amrozi and those other shitskin monkeys were a CIA Agents?
Didn't you know? The CIA put bringyagrog in charge of recruitment in
their S.E. Asian arm? ROTFLMAO!
*us*
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 11:30:01 +1000, "Spartan613" <nos...@buggeroff.com> wrote:
>... the Bali bombings...
Al Qaeda is CIA.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=1032
On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 17:45:26 +0100, bod <bodr...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>I don't think ...
That's why you got fooled by the neocons' lies.
9/11 was an inside job.
*us*
>... delusion...
You believe every lie Bush and Cheney told, don't you.
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 11:30:01 +1000, "Spartan613" <nos...@buggeroff.com> wrote:
>... the Bali bombings...
Al Qaeda is CIA.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=1032
*us*
http://www.defendingthetruth.com/conspiracy-theories/31014-nypd-fdny-personnel-exposed-paul-isaac.html
Notice how even the most desperate bushkultie can't dispute it.
The bushkultie doesn't deal with reality.
Peter Webb
Spartan613
noted.
You have no credibility, and your posts should be ignored.
--
"God is not on the side of the big battalions, but of those who shoot the
best". Voltaire.
"* US *" wrote in message news:6vag96da52ijer0cm...@4ax.com...
bod
Get some help.
Bod
The Peeler
Prove it, ANUS.
Plato Been
and revulsive, spiritually blinding Ugliness, their REVERSE
conscience, and their morbid, malevolent reversal of every-
thing true, to describe nothing BUT themselves)
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Criminal Minds, sociopaths, Demonic creatures etc. have NO PERMISSION
to talk to me (rev 2.0.3)
7 December 2007
{Note 20071207-V2.0.3}
(Version 2.0.3
on 26 Nov 2009)
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Criminal Minds, sociopaths, Demonic creatures, etc. have NO permission
to talk to or speak with me,
unless specifically asked by me, and then only on the question
asked of them by me or by someone for me.
This has always been so, wherever and whenever I could recognize them.
This is how it is in the street, and it is not at all different
in the Usenet newsgroups.
'
'
You can think of these Demonic creatures as street bums,
as to how their soul is, and
as to how the Energies they emanate, are.
Some even claim, that (their and) any soul, and
(those and) any Energies, (also those THEY emanate)
DO NOT EXIST,
so that they are not recognized as the source
of Evil Energies,
nor recognized as Evil souls (that are obvious
from their past-lives).
'
Their only purpose is to destroy life,
and the only reason for their shouting to get a connect-
ion, is, to try and get (to steal) Energy from others,
as they are Energy-vampires too,
and it is not hard to imagine, what THEY would use that
Energy for.
'
'
Do these Hate Beauty, Love and Truth?
Certainly, they so do hate very intensely, very forcefully, with
tremendous rancor. (rancor: 'The deepest malignity or spite;
deep-seated enmity or malice; deep-rooted hatred.')
'
They abhor and are disgusted by genuine Beauty, Love and Truth,
which they may try to approach and "admire" IN ORDER TO
DESTROY IT and to obtain and pervert and subvert the
Energy of.
'
'
Me being fully and wholly their opposite, my communications are so
Strong in Beauty, so All-embracing in Love, and so Rich in Truth,
that these my communications (my Energies) do literally 'burn the
soul' of any Demonic creature, sociopath or mental street bum and
the like:
To such individuals, any communication of mine acts as
'Holy Water,' it burns their soul
- and they react accordingly... some sort of 'explode,'
others, feeling forced to have to feel and to face the
actuality of how people really are,
including feeling the existence and thus the
Energies of demons like l. ron hubbard, and of
his evil soul mates,
will go onto a 'killing spree,' a 'knife-stabbing' "fest"
for them,
TO RE-ESTABLISH THEIR LIES, THEIR FALSE FEELINGS,
AND TO 'DICTATORIALIZE' their lies and false
feelings onto others,
to eradicate and exterminate decent people, and
to kill those who emanate the Energy of pure, penetrating
Truth, of pure, penetrating Beauty, and of pure, and
equally penetrating Love.
'
Therefore - being KIND to them - they are ordered to filter out
of their perception, any communications
not meant for them, not written for them and not posted
or published for them,
that are written by me.
'
'
Koos Nolst Trenite is arguably by far the most Intelligent, by far the
most Beautiful and by far the most Caring philosopher known, and on
top of that the most Truthful and most trusted philosopher known on
Earth and beyond.
KNT hrp&p
_________
reference:
'l. ron hubbard is a 'demon' pretending to be "good" '
(21 April 2008)
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.tv/msg/2c9e876e79b3e4c8
Copyright 2008, 2009 by KNT hrp&p
Copyright Conditions as usual ('learnware')
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Independent, Objective Definition of Evil
10 August 2009
{HRI 20090810-V1.1.2}
(Version 1.1.2
on 11 Aug 2009)
(suits foreign
language readers)
'
Objective, independent definition of Evil:
Taking away, hindering, preventing or destroying the possibility
or ability of people actively to enjoy Life.
The (hidden) Joy of taking away, hindering, preventing or
destroying the possibility or ability of people actively to
enjoy Life.
{definition}
'
'
Actual or true Definitions, are based on life itself, and that action
of defining, does include the ability and desire, to observe and
experience and to connect to life.
So we observe, that Good and Evil are values that are native to
(the soul of) people:
People strongly wish others to enjoy life, and desire to
enjoy life, especially with each other.
From the feelings connected to this,
people experience what we call a conscience,
and from that, natural law ensues, which intends (law-
makers intend) to protect those natural wishes of people
towards each other and towards themselves:
to be able actively to enjoy life with each other.
'
We observe further, that it is exactly THE OPPOSITE in a small, but
very forcefully hidden, often loud and demanding, and sometimes
charismatic part of the population - on Earth certainly -
who are Criminal Minds:
Statistically, in every hundred people, one is most
intensely, totally and irreparably bent on ENJOYING
to take away, to destroy or hinder people's ability to
enjoy life. (see HRI 'The Nature of War')
That IS the nature of their immortal soul, whether you
like it or not, and it dictates - to themselves and to
others of the same nature - to seek and follow that JOY,
(and they keep each other reminded of their JOYS,
should you manage to show one of them, that there
are other joys than those that have been burnt
indelibly into their soul):
These ENJOY, in one way or other, to take away, hinder, prevent or
destroy the possibility or ability, actively and fully to enjoy Life.
'
It is the existence and presence of THAT part of the population, that
necessitates a Definition of Evil in the first place,
much like there was NO necessity to define 'disease,' in a
society where naturally disease never existed.
(And, by the way, all disease stems directly or indirectly
from, and has been created by, or is being inflicted by,
Criminal Minds.)
'
These ENJOY hindering, preventing or destroying the possibility or
ability - in particular of others - actively to enjoy Life.
In order to bring that about, in order to get support and
cooperation, and to develop their being trusted by you or
by others, they will have to claim the opposite, of course,
as in various belief systems, and including their "sciences,"
where the current, crippling medical "sciences" and the
not less crippling "science" of theoretical physics, are
at present more effective than religion or politics
or art are,
to bring that about: *(2)
Whatever is the most effective and most convincing tool or method,
to force, or by their teachings to "guide," people into hindering,
preventing or destroying the possibility or ability to enjoy Life;
people "must restrict themselves, and let their own life be
dominated,"
and in particular they "must allow, or help to bring about, more
and more 'restriction and domination' in the life of others,
too."
'
'
'
So only due to the presence - and in particular due to the very
forcefully and very intelligently HIDDEN presence - of Criminal
Minds,
which I am constantly exposing for you, and teach you about in
the Human Rights Issues (HRI's),
does it become necessary, and indeed vital, to Define objectively,
what is Evil.
'
This definition then also results in all kind of practical
things (which are now the titles of Human Rights Issues)
such as *(1)
The Rights of Criminal Minds,
The First International Law,
The First Law of Human Rights
The Second Law of Human Rights
The Definition of Sanity,
The Definition of Insane,
The Definition of Peace,
Defining God Correctly,
Penetrating Buddhism and Hinduism
Religious Freedom
Introduction to Journalism Course,
and
Introduction to Fine Particle Physics,
to name some basic issues that stem from the very strong, basic,
innate, natural desire, to defend and increase values that are
native to (the soul of) people
- PEOPLE STRONGLY WISH OTHERS TO ENJOY LIFE, and they desire to
enjoy life themselves, especially with each other.
From the feelings connected to this, people experience
what we call a CONSCIENCE, and from that, then,
NATURAL LAW ensues, which intends to protect those
natural wishes of people towards each other and
towards themselves.
{definition}
Koos Nolst Trenite 'Cause Trinity'
human rights philosopher and poet
'Men of all nations came
to listen to Solomon's wisdom,
sent by all the kings of the world,
who had heard of his wisdom.'
1 Kings 4:34
_________
Footnotes:
(1) These are Titles of Human Rights Issues, or of HRI subjects.
(2) 'Evil Creatures Fight for Evil BELIEFS, versus the Rational
Truth' (ECFEB)
{HRI 20080918-V1.5.1}
(8 Sept 2008 - Version 1.5.1 on 15 Mar 2009)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/9dcf45b8b09b581c
(further footnotes to be added, as indicated)
__________
References:
'Info on 'Dismantling Criminal Minds - Fine Particle Physics
Major Discoveries'' (on {FPP 20070331-V2.2} {HRI 20070331-V2.2})
(8 April 2007)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.military.naval/msg/f783820ac17aa490
'Iran has become a Nazi State' - (includes
'Criminal Minds ENJOY LYING, And THEY Know
They Intentionally Lie' {HRI 20050527-V3.5.2})
(1 April 2007)
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.jewish/msg/84e8d7bd46679d1c
'Dismantling Criminal Minds - Fine Particle Physics Major
Discoveries' ('How to become free of evil people') (DCM)
{FPP 20070331-V2.7}
{HRI 20070331-V2.7}
(31 March 2007 - V2.7 on 30 Apr 2007)
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.misc/msg/c119dfc9bd620170
(further references to be added, as applicable)
'
__________
Issue note:
An 'Independent, objective Definition of Evil,' was requested
by Tom Davidson of Richmond, VA, "tadchem" <tadc...@comcast.net
____________
Verification:
http://www.angelfire.com/space/platoworld
Copyright 2009 by Koos Nolst Trenite - human rights philosopher
and poet
This is 'learnware' - it may not be altered, and it is free for
anyone who learns from it and (even if he can not learn from it)
who passes it on unaltered, and with this message included,
to others who might be able to learn from it (but not to sociopaths
specifically, because these vehemently oppose any true knowledge
of life and about themselves).
None of my writings may be used, ever, to support any political
or religious or scientific or artistic "agenda," but only to educate,
and to encourage people to judge un-dominated and for themselves,
about any organizations or individuals.
Send free-of-Envy and free-of-Hate, Beautiful e-mails to:
PlatoWorld at Lycos.com
'
'
'
_______________________________________
On Sep 19, 11:06 am, Koos Nolst Trenite
<Ambassador...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Honest Dutch culture versus Islam: Saint Nicholas (Sinterklaas) versus
> "prophet" Mohammed (Mahommad)
>
> 19 September 2010
> {HRI note 20100919-V1.1}
>
> '
>
> 'Everyone has the right, audibly or visually to
> communicate constructively - and in an educated,
> or informed, or observing way - to others and
> to the society, about any matter and about any
> person; and doing so, will by its very nature
> offend some individuals and some, possibly even
> large, groups.'
>
> The First Correct Human Rights Declaration
> ARTICLE TWO - {HRD-02 20100102-V1.5}
>
> '
>
> '
>
> The Islamists - fundamental or orthodox Muslim "believers," as in
> Muslim dominated countries - believe, that "God speaks," and that
> "his words are those of Islam's 'prophet' Mahommad,"
>
> the verbiage of which, is recorded in the "holy" Qur'an (Quran,
> Koran) book.
>
> '
>
> Much like claiming "God has told you, that 'the moon is square'," and
> then demanding, that everyone believes that,
>
> "because God has said so himself," and
>
> "he talks to no one else, so this is the final truth:
> The moon is square - and that some see it round, is
> just a dangerous illusion, and is 'proof' of such a
> person being a destructive unbeliever."
>
> '
>
> '
>
> The Dutch believe, that Saint Nicholas - riding on his horse to visit
> every Dutch household in December - knows all about you, and brings
> presents accordingly, on the 5th of December
>
> - this is possible, because he has a fast horse, and a lot of
> (black skinned, Spanish-dressed) helpers.
>
> The Dutch have the decency, however, to clear their children up about
> the truth of the matter,
>
> usually when these, the Dutch children, have reached the age of
> casting off make-beliefs - around age six or so.
>
> And so also I was cleared up, and stopped arguing with class
> mates in school, who had become unbelievers in the beliefs
> that children were kept in and delighted in.
>
> '
>
> '
>
> '
>
> So I clear you - you having passed the age of six - I clear you up
> now, about the fallacy of "the brotherhood" of Islam, and of the
> "holy" Koran book, to END THE MAKE-BELIEF.
>
> 'Proof: The Holy Quran (Koran) in all its lines, is Blasphemy
> only - Islam KNOWS NOTHING about life, and ALL its claims are
> FALSE - (incl. Definition of Blasphemy)'
> {HRI 20100718-V1.4}
> (18 July 2010 - Version 1.4 on 11 Aug 2010)http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion/msg/a54f1106e838f9ea
>
> 'Islam Will Be Abolished In The Process Of Civilizing Earth'
> {HRI 20100812-V1.2.1} (IWBA)
> (12 August 2010 - Version 1.2.1 on 19 Aug 2010)http://groups.google.com/group/soc.veterans/msg/56ae8ca3c4574a41
>
> '
>
> Indeed, God is not an individual, and DOES NOT TALK, intend, organize,
> look, remember, etc. etc.:
>
> INDIVIDUALS DO, and there are those, who manage to be looked up
> to, so much, that people call them "a God," or even "God."
>
> '
>
> By its very definition, though, God is NOT an individual, and DOES
> NOT TALK etc.:
>
> That is called monotheism.
>
> God is NOT an individual, but rather, is the Source Energy of
> The Creation,
>
> which Energy is characterized by Intense Love, Soul-baring
> Truth, and Aliveness-causing Beauty,
>
> and WITHOUT the opposites of these:
>
> NO 'revenge,' NO Ugliness, NO punishment, NO judgment, etc.,
>
> and NO TALK.
>
> '
>
> '
>
> Someone can - someone may very well be able to - talk to
> someone WITHOUT using the body for it
>
> - as you know.
>
> This does NOT mean, that "the other person IS GOD."
>
> '
>
> OK? Now tell that to all those who claim or claimed "to talk
> with God."
>
> They ALL are deceived BY AN INDIVIDUAL, whom they 'talk' to or
> 'listen to' without using a body,
>
> they are talking to a very dishonest individual INDEED,
>
> or - sporadically - they are the liars themselves,
>
> such as in the case of 'the "prophet" Mohammed,'
>
> who MADE UP all the stories and phrases of the
> "holy" Qur'an (Koran) ENTIRELY BY HIMSELF, while
> borrowing heavily from earlier sources.
>
> '
>
> 'Defining God correctly - and Heaven, and Hell - What is
> Monotheism' (DGC)
> {HRI 20080406-V4.9.1}
> (6 April 2008 - Version 4.9.1 on 12 Jan 2009)http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/c501bff35c6e8af4
>
> '
>
> But the Islamists - fundamental or orthodox Muslim "believers" -
> believe,
>
> aided by earlier such very debilitating and ENTIRELY FALSE
> beliefs,
>
> that "God speaks," and they believe,
>
> that "his words are those of Islam's 'prophet' Mohammed,"
>
> the verbiage of which is recorded in Arabic, in the "holy"
> Qur'an (Quran, Koran) book,
>
> "which you can not understand by yourself,"
>
> because it is psychotic gibberish, and blasphemy from beginning
> to end, but you can memorize these, and then
>
> "you need Imams" or other religious fanatics, out to dominate and to
> sour the lives of others, who "need Imams"
>
> "in order to explain to you, 'what God's will and command is'."
>
> '
>
> '
>
> Much like claiming, that "God has told you, that 'the moon is
> square'," and then demanding, that everyone believes that,
> "because God has said so himself."
>
> And "he, God, talks to no one else (than to whoever claims to be
> a 'prophet' of God), so this is the final truth:"
>
> "The moon is square - and that some do see it as being round, is
> just a dangerous illusion, and is 'proof' of such a person being
> an unbeliever."
>
> "Do not befriend unbelievers!" These might tell you, that the Moon is
> actually round, and thus these make you into an un-believer.
>
> Now you (again) know why "...you must not befriend unbelievers."
>
> '
>
> 'Islam Will Be Abolished In The Process Of Civilizing Earth'
> {HRI 20100812-V1.2.1} (IWBA)
> (12 August 2010 - Version 1.2.1 on 19 Aug 2010)http://groups.google.com/group/soc.veterans/msg/56ae8ca3c4574a41
>
> '
>
> '
>
> '
>
> '
>
> Again: God DOES NOT TALK, etc. - only INDIVIDUALS DO.
>
> Extremely dumb religious authorities of indeed very questionable
> intentions for you, do protect the various charlatans within
> their group,
>
> who are claiming "to talk with God",
>
> because those charlatans exactly PROVIDE these religious
> fanatics, who are out to dominate others, with "the
> authority" "of God,"
>
> in order to 'explain and enforce' that, "what God wants
> or says," onto the religious group,
>
> meaning, that, what the loudest charlatan - speaking "with
> God himself," says.
>
> '
>
> It is INDIVIDUALS ONLY, like Saints, and like Jesus Christ did in the
> extreme - INDIVIDUALS, with or without body, do perform what you call
> miracles,
>
> and INDIVIDUALS were able to create things, know things, heal things,
> etc., using the Source Energy of The Creation (God defined correctly)
>
> - but you say 'miracles,' because you HAVE BEEN MADE to not
> understand anymore how it works, how miracles are performed:
>
> In that, you are AS barbarian as those very individuals,
> whom YOU accuse of "being barbarian" when
>
> these assign all thunder and lighting as "caused by God."
>
> '
>
> '
>
> If you DO again want to understand 'miracles' in any field, then of
> course you have to study Life, and Life's Energy, as in
>
> The Introduction to Fine Particle Physics {iFPP}
>
> '
>
> Koos Nolst Trenite 'Cause Trinity'
> human rights philosopher and poet
>
> 'God gave Solomon wisdom
> and very great insight,
> and a breadth of understanding
> as measureless
> as the sand on the seashore.'
>
> 1 Kings 4:29
> _________
> Footnotes:
>
> (as indicated)
>
> __________
> References:
>
> ' 'Trapped by Allah:' The Muslim True Believers'
> {HRI 20100121-V1.2.1}
> (21 January 2010 - Version 1.2.1 on 27 Jan 2010)http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion/msg/98b03686b9e2f339
>
> (and further as applicable)
>
> ________
> External:
>
> 'The Origin Of Veiling The Women In Islam And Its Present Role'
> Author: Dr. R. Brahmachari
> Thursday, January 03, 2008http://www.news.faithfreedom.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid...
> ... /index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1679
> '
>
> ____________
> Verification:
>
> http://www.angelfire.com/space/platoworld
>
> Copyright 2010 by Koos Nolst Trenite - human rights philosopher
> and poet
> This is 'learnware' - it may not be altered, and it is free for
> anyone who learns from it and (even if he can not learn from it)
> who passes it on unaltered, and with this message included,
> to others who might be able to learn from it (but not to sociopaths
> specifically, because these vehemently oppose any true knowledge
> of life and about themselves).
> None of my writings may be used, ever, to support any political
> or religious or scientific or artistic "agenda," but only to educate,
> and to encourage people to judge un-dominated and for themselves,
> about any organizations or individuals.
> Send free-of-Envy and free-of-Hate, Beautiful e-mails to:
> PlatoWorld at Lycos.com
Leonardo Been (Plato)
and revulsive, spiritually blinding Ugliness, their REVERSE
conscience, and their morbid, malevolent reversal of every-
thing true, to describe nothing BUT themselves)
'
'
Criminal Minds, sociopaths, Demonic creatures etc. have NO PERMISSION
to talk to me (rev 2.0.3)
full text:
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.legal/msg/1eec9b180aae623d
'
'
'
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> Koos Nolst Trenite <Ambassador...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>Honest Dutch culture versus Islam: Saint Nicholas (Sinterklaas) versus
>
> Bigot logic...
> [Extremists] are [Muslims] so [Muslims] are dangerous and evil
>
> Same logic ...
> [Nazis] are [Christians] so [Christians] are dangerous and evil
>
> --
> Ray Fischer
> rfis...@sonic.net
*us*
>...help.
Your neocon idols betray you.
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 16:19:43 GMT, Greg Carr <greg...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>9/11 ...
Inside job.
*us*
http://www.defendingthetruth.com/conspiracy-theories/31014-nypd-fdny-personnel-exposed-paul-isaac.html
Notice how even the most desperate bushkultie can't dispute it.
The bushkultie doesn't deal with reality.
The bushkultie has only lies.
*us*
wrote:
>Do you believe ...
I prefer facts. You should, too.
*us*
>...inability to give a straight answer ...
>...have no credibility...
You're not the subject, though.
*us*
>... sociopaths ...
You are filled with hate.
You're not healthy.
JLS
> Islam isn't a threat.
Taken literally, it is.
The Peeler
*us*
The terrorists are those who
orchestrated "Shock and Awe".
Greg Carr
Osama Bin-Laden is a terrorist that needs catching.
Veni.Vidi@Visa
news:p1fi96d3j7v7hmkr9...@4ax.com...
> Osama Bin-Laden is a terrorist that needs catching.
He's been dead for years. Americans just need an excuse to beat up on muslim countries.
AStext
All islamofascists are terrorists and need catching.
*us*
>...islamofascists...
Loon Lingo Alert!
*us*
You've misspelled "Tim Osman".
It'd be closer to civilized to put Bush and Cheney on trial.
*us*
PNAC wanted a "New Pearl Harbor"
as their excuse to steal oil and money.
AStext
Dickhead dances . .
Spartan613
"* US *" wrote in message news:2u9h96leefnmne0j0...@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:43:46 +1000, "Peter Webb"
> <webbf...@DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>>Do you believe ...
>
> I prefer facts. You should, too.
>
> On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:49:22 +1000, "Spartan613" <nos...@buggeroff.com>
> wrote:
>
>>... delusion...
>
> You believe every lie Bush and Cheney told, don't you.
As an Australian, I tend to ignore septic pollies.
So explain to me, how Jemaah Islamiya is a component of the CIA and Amrozi
and Mukhlas were CIA agents.
Your evidence in support of your delusions is............?
--
"God is not on the side of the big battalions, but of those who shoot the
best". Voltaire..
Spartan613
"* US *" wrote in message news:hueh96t0c748l079d...@4ax.com...
You're full of shit.
Ditto.
Barry Bruyea
wrote:
>On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:12:44 -0400, * US * wrote:
bin Laden is either dead or laying on cot in a cave somewhere
drooling. If not, why no videos for years? Only Audio.
*us*
>As an Australian, I tend to ignore ...
Aussies are involved in the illegal invasions.
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:43:46 +1000, "Peter Webb" <webbf...@DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au>
wrote:
>Do you believe ...
I prefer facts. You should, too.
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:49:22 +1000, "Spartan613" <nos...@buggeroff.com> wrote:
>... delusion...
You believe every lie Bush and Cheney told, don't you.
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 11:30:01 +1000, "Spartan613" <nos...@buggeroff.com> wrote:
*us*
>... full of shit.
You're not the subject, though.
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 05:16:02 -0700 (PDT), Plato' Beans <plato...@gmail.com> farted:
*us*
Benway (original non-Zionist)
***************************************
This is Multiculturalism:
Scenario 1 - Acquiescence and Surrender.
What does multiculturalism mean to us Australians?
It means that these alien billionaires are telling
us that they want our country, and we are in their
way. Their cultural agenda wants a homogeneous
plastic mental mass that can be moulded at will.
Multiculturalism does not seek an average
intelligence; it hungers for mediocre dullness
that finds comfort and submergence in the
shuffling conformist mob, surrounded by oneness of
mind, with lemmings that ooze like-thinking
concurrence.
The cynical observer would notice the docility of
the multicultural masses - their pliability
beneath the thumb of globalist propaganda, their
credulity that makes them believe almost any
positive spin promoting plague immigration and
globalism.
It is important to observe the insane pathology of
multiculturalism that persecutes dissenters like
Pauline Hanson, and to realize that it was in a
hysterically deranged period of cultural history
that the witch hunts flourished.
Rejoice in globalist stupidity, look upon your
ignorance as a badge of honor, condemn everything
you don't understand in national character. Then
you will be a true citizen of the world, and a
pushover for multicultural propaganda and plague
immigration.
******************************
Benway (original non-Zionist)
wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 18:34:15 -0700 (PDT), Chandler Bing <agamem...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >9/11 was ...
>
> It was an inside job.
>
> http://physics911.net/
*************************************
********************************
Greg Carr
If you think 9/11 and the Bali/London bombings were some kind of
inside job your probably a paranoid schizophrenic.
CoalitionForCanada
*us*
<capt...@mailpuppy.com> wrote:
> * US * wrote:
>> On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 18:34:15 -0700 (PDT), Chandler Bing <agamem...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >9/11 was ...
>>
>> It was an inside job.
>>
>> http://physics911.net/
>
>... they want our country, and we are in their
>way...
The Abos are rather tolerant, actually.
>... mediocre dullness
That explains xenophobia.
AStext
Dance, dhimmi dickhead!
Spartan613
*flush*
--
"God is not on the side of the big battalions, but of those who shoot the
best". Voltaire..
"* US *" wrote in message news:280k96tuoipnktkmd...@4ax.com...
Spartan613
"* US *" wrote in message news:5h0k96djni63336t5...@4ax.com...
Better that, than shit.
*us*
>... a fucked up full-of-shit dickhead with nothing to say.
You sure are, but it's not about you.
*us*
>...shit.
That's the best you can do, isn't it.
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:44:21 +1000, "Spartan613" <nos...@buggeroff.com> wrote:
>... full of shit.
You're not the subject, though.
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 05:16:02 -0700 (PDT), Plato' Beans <plato...@gmail.com> farted:
>... sociopaths ...
You are filled with hate.
You're not healthy.
*us*
*us*
>...you think...
Your turn.
Bush and Cheney lied about 9/11.
Peter Webb
Peter Webb
I believe that only a complete idiot would believe they were. However, as
you have never said whether you believe the planes were remote controlled,
for all I know you agree with me.
Peter Webb
Peter Webb
CraigZ
> Islam isn't a threat.
Tell that to the 7-year old that their prophet Mohammed raped.
Or the 186 children they killed with grenades, knives and small-arms
fire at Beslan.
Islam is a barbaric movement intimately associated with violence,
invented by a mass-murdering thieving paedophile and which is utterly
incompatible with civilisation.
*us*
by people too lazy to educate themselves about either Islam or fascism.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/peterg76/forget-the-pastor-lets-ta_b_712375_60129583.html
http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2010/07/22/islamofascism/
*us*
*us*
>...you think...
Your turn.
>... full of shit.
>... sociopaths ...
You're not healthy.
Get well soon.
*us*
>...shit.
>... full of shit.
>... sociopaths ...
You're not healthy.
Get well soon.
Liberals would help you with that.
*us*
>On Sep 19, 10:49 pm, * US * wrote:
>> Islam isn't a threat.
>
>Tell that to the ...
Do you have anything to say to the
children victimized by Cheney and
Bush in Iraq?
>... children they killed ...
Cheney and Bush have killed a lot
of children, but you don't mind.
Peter Webb
Ray Fischer
>On Sep 19, 10:49 pm, * US * wrote:
>
>> Islam isn't a threat.
>
>Tell that to the 7-year old that their prophet Mohammed raped.
Your insane hatred doesn't make Islam a threat.
It makes YOU a threat.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net