Scavenging, beachcombing? New words for theft?
MM
time, but the police don't seem to be able to stop them.
Brand-new BMW motorbikes are being wheeled away! Each one reportedly
worth Ł15,000.
How many non-chavs and non-chavettes are down there right now? I.e.
fine, upstanding members of the general public. Who from us lot of
self-righteous armchair pundits would also lift a few bits and pieces
were the shipwreck a bit closer to home?
MM
white...@yahoo.co.uk
MM wrote:
> I see that hundreds of folks down in Devon are having a whale of a
> time, but the police don't seem to be able to stop them.
>
> Brand-new BMW motorbikes are being wheeled away! Each one reportedly
>
> How many non-chavs and non-chavettes are down there right now? I.e.
> fine, upstanding members of the general public. Who from us lot of
> self-righteous armchair pundits would also lift a few bits and pieces
> were the shipwreck a bit closer to home?
It's not as if they robbed it. It just 'washed up on the shore'.
Well that is what one of these cheeky chappies said. And good luck to
him. I guess it is the Lloyds 'names' who will pick up the final tab.
Leslie
Hooray for Captain Spalding
"MM" <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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>I see that hundreds of folks down in Devon are having a whale of a
> time, but the police don't seem to be able to stop them.
>
> Brand-new BMW motorbikes are being wheeled away! Each one reportedly
> worth £15,000.
Leslie
Hooray for Captain Spalding
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Dr Zoidberg
> I see that hundreds of folks down in Devon are having a whale of a
> time, but the police don't seem to be able to stop them.
Laws on salvage date back hundreds of years and are actually quite clear.
> Brand-new BMW motorbikes are being wheeled away! Each one reportedly
> worth Ł15,000.
>
> How many non-chavs and non-chavettes are down there right now?
On the radio earlier there was one who had driven down from liverpool to
fill his car with nappies and dog food.
> I.e.
> fine, upstanding members of the general public. Who from us lot of
> self-righteous armchair pundits would also lift a few bits and pieces
> were the shipwreck a bit closer to home?
>
I'd certainly have been tempted to have a nose round
--
Alex
"I laugh in the face of danger. Then I hide until it goes away"
www.drzoidberg.co.uk www.ebayfaq.co.uk
Tommo
Dr Zoidberg wrote:
> MM wrote:
> > I see that hundreds of folks down in Devon are having a whale of a
> > time, but the police don't seem to be able to stop them.
>
> Laws on salvage date back hundreds of years and are actually quite clear.
>
> > Brand-new BMW motorbikes are being wheeled away! Each one reportedly
> >
> > How many non-chavs and non-chavettes are down there right now?
>
> On the radio earlier there was one who had driven down from liverpool to
> fill his car with nappies and dog food.
Nappies? That have just spend 4 days in the water? It makes you wonder
that if he is skint enough to feel the need to do that, how did he
afford the fuel cost of driving down there.
Gaz
> I see that hundreds of folks down in Devon are having a whale of a
> time, but the police don't seem to be able to stop them.
>
> Brand-new BMW motorbikes are being wheeled away! Each one reportedly
>
> How many non-chavs and non-chavettes are down there right now? I.e.
> fine, upstanding members of the general public. Who from us lot of
> self-righteous armchair pundits would also lift a few bits and pieces
> were the shipwreck a bit closer to home?
>
> MM
Anything like this contaminated with seawater is worthless anyway.
Gaz
powerstation
"Gaz" <gaz...@msn.com> wrote in message
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but the containers are watertight they broke them open on the beach
R. Mark Clayton
> time, but the police don't seem to be able to stop them.
>
> Brand-new BMW motorbikes are being wheeled away! Each one reportedly
>
> How many non-chavs and non-chavettes are down there right now? I.e.
> fine, upstanding members of the general public. Who from us lot of
> self-righteous armchair pundits would also lift a few bits and pieces
> were the shipwreck a bit closer to home?
>
> MM
Quite legal - report it to the receiver of wrecks and get 10%(?) from the
insurers.
Kev
MM wrote:
> I see that hundreds of folks down in Devon are having a whale of a
> time, but the police don't seem to be able to stop them.
>
> Brand-new BMW motorbikes are being wheeled away! Each one reportedly
> worth £15,000.
>
> How many non-chavs and non-chavettes are down there right now? I.e.
> fine, upstanding members of the general public. Who from us lot of
> self-righteous armchair pundits would also lift a few bits and pieces
> were the shipwreck a bit closer to home?
>
> MM
There's one born every minute. Do you mean that somebody would pay
£15000 for a BMW motor bike that has been dropped off a ship, rattled
about inside a container and been immersed in sea water. Are they
really worth £15000.
You'll be telling next that the car I saw upside down on its roof in
the surf is worth its full market value.
Kevin
m...@privacy.net
>MM wrote:
>> I see that hundreds of folks down in Devon are having a whale of a
>> time, but the police don't seem to be able to stop them.
>>
>> Brand-new BMW motorbikes are being wheeled away! Each one reportedly
>> worth Ł15,000.
>>
>> How many non-chavs and non-chavettes are down there right now? I.e.
>> fine, upstanding members of the general public. Who from us lot of
>> self-righteous armchair pundits would also lift a few bits and pieces
>> were the shipwreck a bit closer to home?
>>
>> MM
>
>
>Anything like this contaminated with seawater is worthless anyway.
>
>Gaz
>
Twat
m...@privacy.net
Irrelevant
The bikes are new and the engine parts would have been sealed up
anyway
M.I.5¾
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>
> "MM" <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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>>I see that hundreds of folks down in Devon are having a whale of a
>> time, but the police don't seem to be able to stop them.
>>
>> Brand-new BMW motorbikes are being wheeled away! Each one reportedly
>>
>> How many non-chavs and non-chavettes are down there right now? I.e.
>> fine, upstanding members of the general public. Who from us lot of
>> self-righteous armchair pundits would also lift a few bits and pieces
>> were the shipwreck a bit closer to home?
>>
>> MM
>
> Quite legal - report it to the receiver of wrecks and get 10%(?) from the
> insurers.
I believe the rewards for marine salvage are much higher than that.
Glenn UK
Tommo Wrote:
> Dr Zoidberg wrote:-
> MM wrote:-
> I see that hundreds of folks down in Devon are having a whale of a
>
> Laws on salvage date back hundreds of years and are actually quite
> clear.
> Brand-new BMW motorbikes are being wheeled away! Each one reportedly
> worth £15,000.
>
>
> On the radio earlier there was one who had driven down from liverpool
> to
>
> Nappies? That have just spend 4 days in the water? It makes you
> wonder
> that if he is skint enough to feel the need to do that, how did he
> afford the fuel cost of driving down there.
You obvioulsey havent bought nappies lately!
Im not sure id have bothered with the Dog food though, down the market
the chavs'll pay a fortune for nappies, especially if they thik theyre
a little bit dodgy.
--
Glenn UK
brian_ab...@hotmail.com
Dr Zoidberg wrote:
> On the radio earlier there was one who had driven down from liverpool [...]
Where else! Amazing that they only got to speak to one.
Brian.
Mike
Paid for it with his benefit cheque or maybe he just nicked the car.
It is Liverpool and has a need for dog food and nappies so what do you
expect?
--
Mike
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>
>"R. Mark Clayton" <nospam...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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>> Quite legal - report it to the receiver of wrecks and get 10%(?) from the
>> insurers.
>
>I believe the rewards for marine salvage are much higher than that.
You can believe all you like but its not necessarily correct.
--
Mike
>There's one born every minute. Do you mean that somebody would pay
>£15000 for a BMW motor bike that has been dropped off a ship, rattled
>about inside a container and been immersed in sea water. Are they
>really worth £15000.
>You'll be telling next that the car I saw upside down on its roof in
>the surf is worth its full market value.
The bikes were "as new" Containers by their very design are as near
as dammit watertight until the door seals are broken, the crates they
come in stop them rattling about and the only thing immersed in
seawater was the outside of the container.
Doesn't make the bikes worth full market value though as getting one
road registered could be a huge problem.
--
Fat Sam
How would you get them registered with DVLA anyway?
Surely BMW will have supplied them with a list of all the chassis numbers by
now?
M.I.5¾
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Well that added absolutely nothing to the thread whatsoever, quite apart
from the missing apostrophe.
A little research shows that Marine Salvage rates vary considerably
depending on a variety of circumstances, but there is no hard and fast scale
of charges. Salvage rates can in fact approach the value of the recovered
property, but their comes a point where the owners are better off allowing
the recoverers to keep the goods rather than pay for salvage. In the
current scenario, that is unlikely to happen, except perhaps for damaged
goods, but a salvage rate of 15-25% could be considered appropriate,
depending on the item, its difficulty of removal and any risks taken by the
salvagor. It comes down to negotiation at the end of the day, but if the
parties cannot agree, then the courts can decide the salvage rate (and often
do).
Mike
<no....@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote:
>Well that added absolutely nothing to the thread whatsoever, quite apart
>from the missing apostrophe.
'
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M.I.5¾
R. Mark Clayton
Checked now, under a Lloyds Open Form salvage agreement the [mean] current
rate is 9.9%.
Obviously a lot will depend on how much exposure there has been to sea
water. The motorbikes mentioned will be in pretty poor shape, probably with
water in the crankcase, electronics etc. etc. OTOH automatic gearboxes will
probably be OK apart from external electronics and new oak barrels could
survive weeks in the water.
R. Mark Clayton
> news:ir7ar2lcnmoanpkql...@4ax.com...
>>I see that hundreds of folks down in Devon are having a whale of a
>> time, but the police don't seem to be able to stop them.
>>
>> Brand-new BMW motorbikes are being wheeled away! Each one reportedly
>>
>> How many non-chavs and non-chavettes are down there right now? I.e.
>> fine, upstanding members of the general public. Who from us lot of
>> self-righteous armchair pundits would also lift a few bits and pieces
>> were the shipwreck a bit closer to home?
>>
>> MM
>
> Quite legal - report it to the receiver of wrecks and get 10%(?) from the
> insurers.
>
possessions was one of those lost overboard. She was complaining that the
police were letting people steal her possessions. Whilst the police have
been hopeless, the shipper she paid to transport her goods from Sweden to SA
has literally lost them overboard. In fact her best chance of getting her
stuff back is if someone honest does recover the items and surrenders them
to her (or the ship's) insurers for a salvage fee in which case: -
The woman gets her goods back.
The insurer pays out less than for total loss.
The salvager gets paid for his/her trouble.
otherwise her goods would just get left in the sea or dashed to pieces on
the shore and everyone would be worse off.
Francis Burton
MM <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>I see that hundreds of folks down in Devon are having a whale of a
>time, but the police don't seem to be able to stop them.
A beached whale of a time, presumably.
Francis
MM
I don't believe the bikes will be damaged very much at all. Certainly,
nothing that a competent bike fitter couldn't fix.
MM
Dr Zoidberg
Drive off from a petrol station?
Dr Zoidberg
on and riding them away you seem to be wrong.
Even if they had been submersed there are plenty of parts that would be just
fine
m...@privacy.net
<samandj...@tessco.net> wrote:
>How would you get them registered with DVLA anyway?
>Surely BMW will have supplied them with a list of all the chassis numbers by
>now?
>
You couldnt get them registered untill the rightfull owner disclaimed
them, as they will do as they will get more for them for the
insurance.
You could then register them with the DVLA
Steve Walker
> MM wrote:
>> I see that hundreds of folks down in Devon are having a whale of a
>> time, but the police don't seem to be able to stop them.
>
> Laws on salvage date back hundreds of years and are actually quite
> clear.
Maybe so, but the Police seem to find difficulty in stopping things they
want to stop (cue long rant about civil liberties, loss of).
Seems to me that if they'd wanted to run crime scene tape across the beach
and prohibit entry (on the grounds of unknown chemical contamination or
Breach of Peace) or whatever, they could and would have done so.
MM
Breach of the beach, perhaps?
MM