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NHR

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Feb 8, 2007, 11:29:35 AM2/8/07
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> The ethos of Top Gear appears aligned with anti-social car use.

Well, I hope the police will be prosecuting Clarkson for
promoting terrorism now that one of his fans has been
letter-bombing!


Tony Polson

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Feb 8, 2007, 12:08:53 PM2/8/07
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You may jest, but isn't there a tiny little grain of truth in that?

Some motoring journalists display an apparently cavalier attitude
towards the law, and towards road safety. Surely that will do nothing
to encourage law-abiding conduct on the part of some people who watch
or read their output?

Knight Of The Road

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Feb 8, 2007, 12:13:09 PM2/8/07
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"Tony Polson" <t...@nospam.net> wrote


> You may jest, but isn't there a tiny little grain of truth in that?
>
> Some motoring journalists display an apparently cavalier attitude
> towards the law, and towards road safety. Surely that will do nothing
> to encourage law-abiding conduct on the part of some people who watch
> or read their output?
>

How do you know the devices aren't being sent by an anti-car eco-warrior?


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Brimstone

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Feb 8, 2007, 12:48:30 PM2/8/07
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Knight Of The Road wrote:
> "Tony Polson" <t...@nospam.net> wrote
>
>
>> You may jest, but isn't there a tiny little grain of truth in that?
>>
>> Some motoring journalists display an apparently cavalier attitude
>> towards the law, and towards road safety. Surely that will do
>> nothing to encourage law-abiding conduct on the part of some people
>> who watch or read their output?
>>
>
> How do you know the devices aren't being sent by an anti-car
> eco-warrior?

You don't mean .......... ??


The Stainless Steel Cat

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Feb 8, 2007, 1:04:32 PM2/8/07
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In article <t3mms2t7naf8sv54j...@4ax.com>,
Tony Polson <t...@nospam.net> wrote:

I think you mean "...an apparently Vectra attitude..."

HTH

Cat.


Peter

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Feb 8, 2007, 1:46:43 PM2/8/07
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On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 17:08:53 +0000, Tony Polson <t...@nospam.net> wrote:

>On 8 Feb 2007 16:29:35 -0000, NHR <n...@example.com> wrote:
>
>>> The ethos of Top Gear appears aligned with anti-social car use.
>>
>>Well, I hope the police will be prosecuting Clarkson for
>>promoting terrorism now that one of his fans has been
>>letter-bombing!
>
>
>You may jest, but isn't there a tiny little grain of truth in that?

No, there is not even the smallest grain of truth in it - nor will
there be until the police arrest, charge and gain a conviction. It is
only then will anyone know who was responsible or know his/her reasons
for sending the letter bombs.

It may be an ART who is well pissed off that he was caught speeding on
his way to/from petrol bombing the MD od a bioscienc e company

Or it could be from a motoring journalist envious of Clarksons success


>
>Some motoring journalists display an apparently cavalier attitude
>towards the law, and towards road safety. Surely that will do nothing
>to encourage law-abiding conduct on the part of some people who watch
>or read their output?

We just don't know, do we?


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Peter

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Martin Milan

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Feb 8, 2007, 3:14:37 PM2/8/07
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NHR <n...@example.com> wrote in
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Top Gear appears aligned with anti-social car use? Does it really? It's
just that I don't remember them doing anything anti-social at all. Yes,
they drive very fast around the track - but that's the point really -
it's a racetrack, and not the ring road...

I'm sure you'll substantiate your claim...

Martin

Tommo

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Feb 8, 2007, 3:34:44 PM2/8/07
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On 8 Feb, 20:14, Martin Milan <I...@m.i.do> wrote:
> NHR <n...@example.com> wrote innews:ITR89I9A39121.4372106481@anonymous.poster:

Having races that require them to travel at high speeds across Europe
on public roads; making a point of arsing around on public roads and
causing inconvenience to other road users?

Martin Milan

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Feb 8, 2007, 5:03:52 PM2/8/07
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"Tommo" <sxt...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in
news:1170966884.2...@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com:

They actually do not speed (well, no more so than other drivers) on any
roads. The recent James May piece on the Bugati Veyron was done BECAUSE
Jeremy Clarkson didn't exceed the limits on the Europe "Race".

Don't you find it just a little bit odd that all of these contests seem
to end up with the two teams arriving at the final meeting point within
a few minutes of each other - every single time?

As for causing a nuisance, I presue you are referring to the caravan
trip... Again, I personally think that entire thing was staged from
beginning to end...

Martin.

Tommo

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Feb 9, 2007, 4:48:08 AM2/9/07
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On 8 Feb, 22:03, Martin Milan <I...@m.i.do> wrote:

> "Tommo" <sxt2...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote innews:1170966884.2...@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 8 Feb, 20:14, Martin Milan <I...@m.i.do> wrote:
> >> NHR <n...@example.com> wrote
> >> innews:ITR89I9A39121.4372106481@anonymous.poster:
>
> >> >> The ethos ofTopGearappears aligned with anti-social car use.

>
> >> > Well, I hope the police will be prosecuting Clarkson for
> >> > promoting terrorism now that one of his fans has been
> >> > letter-bombing!
>
> >>TopGearappears aligned with anti-social car use? Does it really?

> >> It's just that I don't remember them doing anything anti-social at
> >> all. Yes, they drive very fast around the track - but that's the
> >> point really - it's a racetrack, and not the ring road...
>
> >> I'm sure you'll substantiate your claim...
>
> >> Martin
>
> > Having races that require them to travel at high speeds across Europe
> > on public roads; making a point of arsing around on public roads and
> > causing inconvenience to other road users?
>
> They actually do not speed (well, no more so than other drivers) on any
> roads. The recent James May piece on the Bugati Veyron was done BECAUSE
> Jeremy Clarkson didn't exceed the limits on the Europe "Race".
>
> Don't you find it just a little bit odd that all of these contests seem
> to end up with the two teams arriving at the final meeting point within
> a few minutes of each other - every single time?
>
> As for causing a nuisance, I presue you are referring to the caravan
> trip... Again, I personally think that entire thing was staged from
> beginning to end...
>
> Martin.

I know that said that they obey the speed limits, but i doubt that
they do. Otherwise why would they use supercars if they could do
exactly the same journey *quicker* by using a more economical normal
car - a Diesel Vauxhall Vectra for example.

I did have in mind the caravan trip. That was one of the items that
brought me to the conclusion that the entire show is completely
staged.

Arfur Million

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Feb 9, 2007, 5:54:57 AM2/9/07
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On 8 Feb, 22:03, Martin Milan <I...@m.i.do> wrote:
> "Tommo" <sxt2...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote innews:1170966884.2...@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 8 Feb, 20:14, Martin Milan <I...@m.i.do> wrote:
> >> NHR <n...@example.com> wrote
> >> innews:ITR89I9A39121.4372106481@anonymous.poster:
>
> >> >> The ethos of Top Gear appears aligned with anti-social car use.
>
> >> > Well, I hope the police will be prosecuting Clarkson for
> >> > promoting terrorism now that one of his fans has been
> >> > letter-bombing!
>
> >> Top Gear appears aligned with anti-social car use? Does it really?
> >> It's just that I don't remember them doing anything anti-social at
> >> all. Yes, they drive very fast around the track - but that's the
> >> point really - it's a racetrack, and not the ring road...
>
> >> I'm sure you'll substantiate your claim...
>
> >> Martin
>
> > Having races that require them to travel at high speeds across Europe
> > on public roads; making a point of arsing around on public roads and
> > causing inconvenience to other road users?
>
> They actually do not speed (well, no more so than other drivers) on any
> roads. The recent James May piece on the Bugati Veyron was done BECAUSE
> Jeremy Clarkson didn't exceed the limits on the Europe "Race".

In a race (no quotes) from London to Verbier Clarkson was stopped in
France for speeding. A quick google will show other instances of the
Top Gear team getting tickets.

>
> Don't you find it just a little bit odd that all of these contests seem
> to end up with the two teams arriving at the final meeting point within
> a few minutes of each other - every single time?
>
> As for causing a nuisance, I presue you are referring to the caravan
> trip... Again, I personally think that entire thing was staged from
> beginning to end...
>

On one occasion I know of, Clarkson drove a car onto the beach at
Budleigh Salterton (apparently he thought the car was staid and boring
- geddit?) but the useless oaf was unable to drive it off again and
they had to get a tow truck to clear up the mess. I don't believe that
was shown on Top Gear, but I wouldn't know, since I can't watch that
program.

Regards,
Arfur


Martin Milan

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Feb 10, 2007, 6:10:28 AM2/10/07
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> I know that said that they obey the speed limits, but i doubt that
> they do. Otherwise why would they use supercars if they could do
> exactly the same journey *quicker* by using a more economical normal
> car - a Diesel Vauxhall Vectra for example.

Because, at it's heart, Top Gear is about letting people see the
supercars. Noone's interested in the Vectra - it's a decent car, does
it's job very well, but not too many teenagers have one on their bedroom
wall...

The show is about letting people see the higher end of the market.



> I did have in mind the caravan trip. That was one of the items that
> brought me to the conclusion that the entire show is completely
> staged.

I agree with you, but, I'm ashamed to admit, I still like the show. Top
Gear has moved away from a consumer show and more into the realm of
entertainment - which I don't think is such a bad thing...

Martin

Martin Milan

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Feb 10, 2007, 6:13:43 AM2/10/07
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"Arfur Million" <arfur_...@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1171018497....@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

True. Millions of drivers in the UK get speeding tickets too.

Speeding tickets are rapidly becoming a fact of life - although,
interestingly, I've never received one myself.

>>
>> Don't you find it just a little bit odd that all of these contests
>> seem to end up with the two teams arriving at the final meeting point
>> within a few minutes of each other - every single time?
>>
>> As for causing a nuisance, I presue you are referring to the caravan
>> trip... Again, I personally think that entire thing was staged from
>> beginning to end...
>>
>
> On one occasion I know of, Clarkson drove a car onto the beach at
> Budleigh Salterton (apparently he thought the car was staid and boring
> - geddit?) but the useless oaf was unable to drive it off again and
> they had to get a tow truck to clear up the mess. I don't believe that
> was shown on Top Gear, but I wouldn't know, since I can't watch that
> program.
>

Budleigh Salterton has been mentioned on the show, but I can't say I can
remember when..

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