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Nigel Oldfield

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Jul 1, 2010, 4:33:44 PM7/1/10
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Thanks to Sara we’ve saved 624 kids from paedos

By JIM GAMBLE, Boss of CEOP

Published: Today

FOUR years ago, a national agency was set up to rescue children from
abuse and arrest sex offenders.
The Child Exploitation And Online Protection Centre includes police,
child safety experts plus charity, Government and industry people.

Today, on the tenth anniversary of eight-year-old Sarah Payne's
abduction by Roy Whiting CEOP announce their latest results - with
more perverts than ever being caught.

Here, CEOP chief exec Jim Gamble talks about his work.

ON the anniversary of Sarah Payne's disappearance, it is appropriate
to pay tribute to her mother Sara who has campaigned so hard for work
in this area.

Tragic ... Sarah Payne

Without her, and people like her, we simply couldn't do what we do.

My heartfelt condolences go out to Sara and her family. We have been
lucky to have campaigners like her who, despite all the horrors she
has been through, tirelessly lobby and help us improve.

She understands the real hurt and pain victims go through.

Today CEOP can announce that between April 2009 and March 2010 we were
directly involved in instigating and supporting investigations that
safeguarded 278 children - double the number from the previous year.

That brings the total number of children safeguarded from abuse since
the organisation was launched to 624.
Safety

What that means is when we arrest a suspected sex offender, we find
out if they have access to other children we may not have known about.

'We get kids safety and the help they need' ... CEOP boss Jim Gamble
'We get kids safety and the help they need' ... Jim Gamble

Sometimes we're lucky and the children haven't been abused yet.
Sometimes it's too late but we get them safety and the help they need.

We set up CEOP at a time when people were more worried about their
children being abused than they were about terrorism. A decision was
made to create a centre that consolidated the expertise of many
different groups.

Every year our results are better. When we started, we had an eight
per cent success rate in locating high-risk offenders. Today, it's 80
per cent. Before, we were playing catch-up. Now we are ahead of
criminals and often catch them before they hurt a child.

Our Image Analysis And Victim Identification team is, I believe,
leading the world in its work.

This team does an incredibly difficult job analysing indecent images
to identify child victims, locate them and rescue them. This year, we
rescued 47 children in this way.

We also work with teams around the world.

Paedo ... Roy Whiting

In the last fortnight, we sent a team to Cambodia to apprehend a
British suspect. We want to show that, no matter where they are - here
or abroad, online or offline - the long arm of the law can reach them.

We are now also to take responsibility for missing children.

So if a child like Madeleine McCann went missing now, I can't say
whether we could find her but I have no doubt we could act faster to
alert the authorities here and improve the response of authorities
abroad.

And we work with businesses. I can honestly say I have learnt more
from them than from law enforcement agencies, simply because they know
how to deliver more for less.

We operate on just £12.5million and have to rely on public and private
investors in addition to government money.

Our 46,000 volunteers and 125 paid staff get the message across to
children, parents and schools about how to protect themselves from
predators. We are low cost and high impact.

I'm a dad myself. There is nothing more precious than your kids.

I was in charge of the anti-terrorist intelligence unit in Belfast and
deputy director general of the National Crime Squad but I have never
had a job more challenging, more frustrating but ultimately more
rewarding than this one.

This is the work I want to be remembered for.

On certain days you go home with the weight of the world on your
shoulders. Other days you are walking on air, there isn't a feeling
like it.

I am more satisfied with what I have done here than anything in my
career.

There is still some way to go but this team works very hard, in very
difficult circumstances, and we are catching more paedophiles than
ever before.

Read more:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/3036593/Child-Protection-Centre-boss-Thanks-to-Sara-Payne-weve-saved-624-kids-from-paedos.html#ixzz0sSsWqcKJ

Read more:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/3036593/Child-Protection-Centre-boss-Thanks-to-Sara-Payne-weve-saved-624-kids-from-paedos.html#ixzz0sSsIPjs5

Online police paedophile unit saves 278 children
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20100701/tuk-online-police-paedophile-unit-saves-dba1618.html

Paedophiles 'increasingly access images from webcams'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/10461616.stm

WM

Phil Leonard

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Jul 1, 2010, 5:11:39 PM7/1/10
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Nigel Oldfield wrote:
> Thanks to Sara we’ve saved 624 kids from paedos
>
> By JIM GAMBLE, Boss of CEOP

Nigel, as a member of the teaching profession don't you think that
understanding a subject and taking the piss out of someone who has lost
a child through the subject are two different things? It is like you are
trying to blame this woman because you were banged up and punish her.

Like you I have read extenstively on the subject and allow you a lot of
leeway but you do come across as a bitter old man most of the time.


Steve Walker

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Jul 1, 2010, 5:21:11 PM7/1/10
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Phil Leonard wrote:
> Nigel Oldfield wrote:
>> Thanks to Sara we致e saved 624 kids from paedos

AOL. I can understand Nige's anger at losing a career he probably loved,
but why lash out at others?


Nigel Oldfield

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Jul 1, 2010, 5:33:08 PM7/1/10
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> Nigel, as a member of the teaching profession

????

>don't you think that
> understanding a subject and taking the piss out of someone who has lost
> a child through the subject are two different things?

You will need to clarify that comment.

>It is like you are
> trying to blame this woman because you were banged up and punish her.

Sarah Payne (who I do not have any major problems with) is a partly
negligent mother, but I still feel for her and her family's loss ...

.. and, yes, part of the reason I was hit so hard, was due to
misinformation circulated by Ms Payne and her associates, in the
'CPI', such as CEO Gamble.

Hundreds of men are dead and thousands of families have been and being
destroyed for no good reason. That is, partly, what drives us, not any
trivial, emotional response.

> Like you I have read extenstively on the subject and allow you a lot of
> leeway but you do come across as a bitter old man most of the time.

This has little to do with child 'protection', read the articles
again. How many crimes *have* been solved? The figures for sexual
offending on minors, where we can find them, has not declined.

This is the continued exploitation and spiritual rape of Sara's
memory, Sarah, even Karen (but she enjoys it), by Gamble, Murdoch and
others ... they are, simply, all being abused, over and again, for the
sake of empires, cash and lies.

We will not have that.

Please allow me no leeway, state your case, authority and position on
the issues.

WM

Nigel Oldfield

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Jul 1, 2010, 5:34:40 PM7/1/10
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> AOL.    I can understand Nige's anger at losing a career he probably loved,
> but why lash out at others?

Actually no, losing that career had little impact, I had lost faith in
that, some time before.

See my response above.

WM

Nigel Oldfield

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Jul 1, 2010, 5:50:57 PM7/1/10
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Sorry for Sarah/Sara mix-up - busy here

WM

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Jul 2, 2010, 4:12:35 AM7/2/10
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"Now we are ahead of criminals and often catch them before they hurt a
child." - Jim Gamble, CEO, CEOP

It's this kind of statement, made in such a matter-of-fact,
unremarkable way, that worries me the most. Makes me think,
immediately, of Minority Report and it's 'precrimes'. Hardly
surprising that this kind of thinking emanates from a man heading up a
quango which played such a vocal part in the forming of new laws, now
taken into statute, criminalising the possession of 'indecent'
cartoons, the penalties for which are every bit as severe as those
currently attached to possession of 'indecent' photos - the only
difference being now that CEOP has managed to convince the courts to
convict perps for entirely victimless crimes, and turn them into 'sex
offenders' at the same time. Anyone here actually - truly - believe
that possession of a cartoon should be grounds for a life ruined,
possible incarceration and entry onto the SOR..? Really?

CEOP - it's drip-drip, slow mission creep (now branching big-time into
'missing kids', having found the child pr0n angle is starting to
seriously dry up, as well as continuing it's expansion as a 'global
brand' in the child protection industry) is a menace to civil freedoms
everywhere. One day they will surely be held to account for the
carnage they have wrought. One day, but not today.

Jimmy Mac

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Jul 2, 2010, 4:44:50 AM7/2/10
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Nigel Oldfield wrote:

> offending on minors, where we can find them, has not declined.
>
> This is the continued exploitation and spiritual rape of Sara's
> memory, Sarah, even Karen (but she enjoys it), by Gamble, Murdoch and
> others ... they are, simply, all being abused, over and again, for the
> sake of empires, cash and lies.
>
> We will not have that.
>
> Please allow me no leeway, state your case, authority and position on
> the issues.
>
> WM

He probably just knows a self-centerd nasty prick when he sees one

Jimmy Mac

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Jul 2, 2010, 4:45:43 AM7/2/10
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Nigel Oldfield wrote:
> Sorry for Sarah/Sara mix-up - busy here
>
> WM

If you are going to insult people please get their name right

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Nigel Oldfield

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Jul 2, 2010, 9:56:35 AM7/2/10
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Yawn.

WM

Nigel Oldfield

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Jul 2, 2010, 9:57:08 AM7/2/10
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> WM
>
> He probably just knows a self-centerd nasty prick when he sees one

Yes I can Jimmy.

WM

Paul Cummins

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Jul 3, 2010, 7:53:00 AM7/3/10
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In article <411326de-74f2-4e7f...@d16g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
wmcritica...@googlemail.com (Nigel Oldfield) wrote:

> Now we are ahead of
> criminals and often catch them before they hurt a child.

So, the UK pre-crime unit is up and running then?

--
Paul Cummins - Always a NetHead
Wasting Bandwidth since 1981

AlanG

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Jul 3, 2010, 8:12:43 AM7/3/10
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On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 12:53 +0100 (BST), uset...@stedphone.invalid (Paul
Cummins) wrote:

>In article <411326de-74f2-4e7f...@d16g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
>wmcritica...@googlemail.com (Nigel Oldfield) wrote:
>
>> Now we are ahead of
>> criminals and often catch them before they hurt a child.
>
>So, the UK pre-crime unit is up and running then?

Can they get me next friday's euro lottery numbers?

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