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slider

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Sep 28, 2009, 11:51:06 AM9/28/09
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Hi

Why are Wii ISO's almost always 4.38gb when the actual game can be as little
as 0.1gb? Is the ISO just padded out to the capacity of the DVD?


[ste parker]

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Sep 28, 2009, 1:06:16 PM9/28/09
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Yes.

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deKay

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Sep 28, 2009, 4:13:37 PM9/28/09
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On Mon, 28 Sep 2009, slider wrote:

> Why are Wii ISO's almost always 4.38gb when the actual game can be as little
> as 0.1gb? Is the ISO just padded out to the capacity of the DVD?

It's to piss off the pirates who are downloading them.

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Zomoniac

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Sep 28, 2009, 5:46:40 PM9/28/09
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I thought USB Loader ripped a straight ISO from the disc? Many of my
ripped games are only a few hundred MB. Don't know what it is in Wii's
case, but Dreamcast games would always fill the extra space with blank
data to push the game data to the outside of the disc so the laser
didn't have to do as much work. Could be the same thing.

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[ste parker]

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Sep 28, 2009, 6:54:35 PM9/28/09
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No, it doesn't work like that. I just copied off all my games (resizing
the partition, and I figured it'd be faster than re-ripping everything
again afterwards), and although the size on hard drive varies all the
extracted iso's are 4.37GB. Not what I expected, had to do a fair bit
of space clearing.

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deKay

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Sep 29, 2009, 4:13:13 AM9/29/09
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On Mon, 28 Sep 2009, Zomoniac wrote:

>> Why are Wii ISO's almost always 4.38gb when the actual game can be as
>> little
>> as 0.1gb? Is the ISO just padded out to the capacity of the DVD?
>
> I thought USB Loader ripped a straight ISO from the disc?

No, it just rips the data. Well, it does now. When I installed Wii Play at
the weekend it was only 90MB and took about 5 seconds.

Ian Rawlings

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Sep 29, 2009, 4:50:58 AM9/29/09
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On 2009-09-29, deKay <an...@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> wrote:

> No, it just rips the data. Well, it does now. When I installed Wii Play at
> the weekend it was only 90MB and took about 5 seconds.
>
> deKay

Yes but I think if you create an ISO from a game ripped to hard disc,
it creates a 4 gig image, as that's what the system requires.

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slider

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Sep 29, 2009, 4:54:39 AM9/29/09
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"deKay" <an...@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> wrote in message
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I put Wii Play to a USB drive it was about 170mb.


deKay

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Sep 29, 2009, 6:47:10 AM9/29/09
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On Tue, 29 Sep 2009, Ian Rawlings wrote:

> On 2009-09-29, deKay <an...@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> wrote:
>
>> No, it just rips the data. Well, it does now. When I installed Wii Play at
>> the weekend it was only 90MB and took about 5 seconds.
>

> Yes but I think if you create an ISO from a game ripped to hard disc,
> it creates a 4 gig image, as that's what the system requires.

That's probably true, but I was replying about usbloader, which doesn't
created a 4 gig image (at least the more recent versions don't).

deKay

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Sep 29, 2009, 6:48:26 AM9/29/09
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On Tue, 29 Sep 2009, slider wrote:

> I put Wii Play to a USB drive it was about 170mb.

What did you use to get that figure? USB Loader GX told me 0.09GB.

slider

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Sep 29, 2009, 6:54:18 AM9/29/09
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"deKay" <an...@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> wrote in message
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USB Loader 1.5. Will double check later, but I am sure it said 0.69gb.


Rach

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Sep 29, 2009, 7:44:32 AM9/29/09
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What's USB Loader?

Jaimie Vandenbergh

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Sep 29, 2009, 7:55:02 AM9/29/09
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On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:44:32 +0100, Rach <Ra...@thisisntmyaddress.com>
wrote:

A handy thing that lets you slurp your Wii disks onto a SD card or USB
hard drive and play (most) games directly from there.

It seems to be based on Nintendo's "Wii in a kiosk" software, hacked
around a fair bit and with various pretty front ends taped on.

http://usbloadergx.koureio.net/ is a decent one. You need some method
of running homebrew to get started.

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Toby Newman

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Sep 29, 2009, 9:00:01 AM9/29/09
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On 2009-09-29, deKay <an...@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Sep 2009, Zomoniac wrote:
>
>>> Why are Wii ISO's almost always 4.38gb when the actual game can be as
>>> little
>>> as 0.1gb? Is the ISO just padded out to the capacity of the DVD?
>>
>> I thought USB Loader ripped a straight ISO from the disc?
>
> No, it just rips the data. Well, it does now. When I installed Wii Play at
> the weekend it was only 90MB and took about 5 seconds.

I've spent two sessions trying to get this loader thing working and
failed both times. This displeases me.

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Ian Rawlings

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Sep 29, 2009, 11:49:26 AM9/29/09
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On 2009-09-29, deKay <an...@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> wrote:

> On Tue, 29 Sep 2009, Ian Rawlings wrote:
>
>> On 2009-09-29, deKay <an...@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> No, it just rips the data. Well, it does now. When I installed Wii Play at
>>> the weekend it was only 90MB and took about 5 seconds.
>>
>> Yes but I think if you create an ISO from a game ripped to hard disc,
>> it creates a 4 gig image, as that's what the system requires.
>
> That's probably true, but I was replying about usbloader, which doesn't
> created a 4 gig image (at least the more recent versions don't).

The very first version I tried didn't create a 4 gig image, and that
was ages ago! As for actual ISOs though, they all do seem to be 4 gig
and usbloader creates a 4 gig iso from a tiny game, so it looks like
it's a requirement from the system itself.

That reminds me, the Wii's not been turned on for about 4 months at
least now.. Must try and play some games tonight. All it really does
now is recharge the AAA NiMH batteries in the remotes which I use in
my bluetooth keyboard!

Toby Newman

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Sep 29, 2009, 3:00:02 PM9/29/09
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On 2009-09-29, Jaimie Vandenbergh <jai...@sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:44:32 +0100, Rach <Ra...@thisisntmyaddress.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Zomoniac wrote:
>>> On 2009-09-28 16:51:06 +0100, "slider" <sli...@slide.com> said:
>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> Why are Wii ISO's almost always 4.38gb when the actual game can be as
>>>> little
>>>> as 0.1gb? Is the ISO just padded out to the capacity of the DVD?
>>>
>>> I thought USB Loader ripped a straight ISO from the disc? Many of my
>>> ripped games are only a few hundred MB. Don't know what it is in Wii's
>>> case, but Dreamcast games would always fill the extra space with blank
>>> data to push the game data to the outside of the disc so the laser
>>> didn't have to do as much work. Could be the same thing.
>>>
>>
>>What's USB Loader?
>
> A handy thing that lets you slurp your Wii disks onto a SD card or USB
> hard drive and play (most) games directly from there.
>
> It seems to be based on Nintendo's "Wii in a kiosk" software, hacked
> around a fair bit and with various pretty front ends taped on.
>
> http://usbloadergx.koureio.net/ is a decent one. You need some method
> of running homebrew to get started.

You see, this is why I got stuck. That page could really do with some
actual instructions.

Dasler

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Sep 29, 2009, 8:01:41 PM9/29/09
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> You see, this is why I got stuck. That page could really do with some
> actual instructions.

This is the page I referred to when I set mine up:

http://www.mikeandheth.com/games/109-store-and-load-usb-wii-system-menu-4.html

Not been there in ages as I've never had any problems and because I mainly
use my 360 at the mo


Zomoniac

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Sep 30, 2009, 3:35:15 AM9/30/09
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But that's four times bigger than you just said it was?!

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Zomoniac

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Sep 30, 2009, 3:36:29 AM9/30/09
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Took me ages to get mine working as well. Had to downgrade my IOS, then
upgrade it again, or something, to get any joy with it.

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Toby Newman

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Oct 12, 2009, 3:00:02 PM10/12/09
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Thanks for the link - a great guide and I finally got it working
tonight.

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