Play, Want, Bi(i)n
The Rev
Wii (WII) - Regardless of any, you know, games, the Wii itself is a fun
toy. When first starting it up I did the boring stuff of entering
settings, getting it online, learning how to use the pointer,
downloading Super Mario 64 and Donkey Kong, etc. (Pointer was all over
the place at first, but became more natural very quickly. Both
familiarity and clearing the coffee table that's between the Wiimote and
sensor did their part.) Then it was into the Mii Channel. I handed my
wife the Wiimote and she made her Mii, then I made mine. Over the course
of the weekend my wife and I made a lot of celebrity Miis, some better
than others. Jason Voorhees didn't look right, but was great
nonetheless. I did a pretty good Asajj Ventress, given the parts
available and my Count Dooku is okay. Wasn't very happy with my Earl
Hickey. Wife's Marilyn Monroe and Sadako were ace. Also tried out the
photo channel with a couple of photos we'd emailed over to the Wii. They
didn't look too great and I wasn't sure what the point was, really.
(Doesn't handle GIFs, either.) Exchanged a few messages with friends,
which was nice, but won't replace email. And all the time I marvelled at
how nice the image looked, despite being on a rubbish composite
connection. Not sure how they've done it, but it's really very
impressive and much, much better than I was expecting. Anyway - games!
Wii Play (WII) - This was the first game we tried. Two player all the
way. Games are simple and some are better others, but we had great fun
and it was a nice introduction to the ways of the Wiimote. Wife really
didn't enjoy the cow-steering game. The best ones were probably laser
hockey and fishing for us. Not sure which of them would be good in
single player mode, if any. Maybe tanks and billiards. Charging full
price for this would be a joke, for a fiver it's excellent as an
introduction.
Wii Sports (WII) - I tried golf in single player first, while my wife
tended to her Pony Island ponies online. Took me twenty-eight shots to
do the three easy holes first time I tried, took twelve the second time.
That's some improvement. Then - yay! - back to two players for the rest
of the game. Bowling first. It's awesome, really awesome. A bit too
easy, maybe, but great fun. And suddenly spotting a Mii representation
of one of my friends standing watching was a great moment. Tennis was
okay, but we didn't play long. Baseball was great fun and, after
bowling, probably my favourite. Finally, boxing. It's hard and tiring
and wife beat me in both bouts and enjoyed the experience far more than
I thought she should have done. And that was it. We played Wii Sports
that once and haven't since. Not because it was bad, but because other
games took over. We keep telling each other that we need to play it
more, we've just not got round to it. (It would be helpful if it was
built into the console, instead of being on a disc. Moon, stick, I know.)
Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz (WII) - This is superb. Absolutely
superb. The levels are very well designed without any of the rubbish
gimmicks of Super Monkey Ball 2, the jump mechanic fits in surprisingly
well, it's nicely presented, the bosses are quite fun, the credits are
skippable and, most of all, the controls are perfect. Some people say
they take a while to get to grips with, but I didn't find that. Don't
know if it was my Wii Play and Wii Sports training or what, but I felt
comfortable with them from the beginning. I'm not very good, but that's
my fault, not the control's.
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (WII) - The big game of the
launch. The solid, sit-down epic. Didn't dare start it up until 9pm on
Saturday, but by the end of Sunday I'd put in eleven hours. It eats
time. And it's brilliant. I'm not the world's biggest Zelda fan by any
means, but this is just superb. I love the using hand motions for
swordplay, fishing and aiming. The game, even through the Wii's default
composite connection, looks gorgeous. (I'd love to see it in 720p using
upgraded textures, yes, and I really, really want my RGB SCART cable to
arrive, but even as it is it looks wonderful.) It's just captivating,
with fun combat mechanics and puzzles that have stumped me just long
enough, but not too long. (Though I had to leave the second dungeon with
two chests unclaimed. No idea how to get to them.) I've just finished
the second dungeon now with, as I said, eleven hours on the clock. I
think this will be a big one.
And then there's the virtual console games.
Super Mario 64 (WII) - Well, I can't think of anything new to say about
this. Though I will say that despite being pretty happy with d-pad
controls on the original DS, having the analogue stick back is glorious.
Donkey Kong (WII) - Seems too easy to me. I had to leave my first game
unfinished as it was taking so long and come back to lose my last life
later. (At least the Wii saves the game when you quit out.)
Super Star Soldier (WII) - Not sure if it's a great vertical shooter,
but it's a vertical shooter, which is enough.
Bonk's Adventure (WII) - It's a fun platform game. Not earth-shattering,
but worth a look.
WANT
Rayman Raving Rabbids (WII) - Short, I've heard. I've also heard that
not all the games are much fun. And it's not in widescreen, incredibly.
But I still want it. And since seeing the trailer, so does my wife.
Gunstar Heroes (WII) - Being added to the virtual console this Friday,
according to a list I saw of upcoming releases. Don't know how accurate
it was, but I live in hope. Castlevania IV was shown as coming before
the end of the month, too.
BIN
Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz (WII) - Yes, the main game is amazing,
but the mini-games are appalling. Okay, not all of them. Monkey Wars is
a nice tech demo and there's a fairly fun flying game in there, with you
flying a bird through glowing rings. The others I tried ranged from the
boring to the broken. A lot of the one that relied on a pointer just
didn't seem to work at all and really should have been removed from the
game. I'm sure they were there just so the back of the box could say "50
mini games!" because they're just awful, terrible, broken things.
Wii (WII) - Some minor complaints. Using IR technology at all is
annoying, meaning the remote has to have line-of-sight for pointing
games. Not sure what else they could have done, but it's annoying.
Channels take longer to load than I'd like. Waiting for the Mii channel
to load is painful, despite only being on a black screen for about five
seconds. Very odd that it should be so annoying, but it feels wrong. And
my Wiimote turned itself off when the channel was loading once, which
was odd. The lack of better video cables at launch is very annoying, as
are the supply issues generally. Apart from that, I can't really think
of anything to complain about.
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Shak
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> PLAY
>
Wii Sports (Wii) - I've actually surprised myself by not liking Tennis too
much, having Baseball grow on me (especially via training) and absolutely
loving Bowling and Golf. My dad keeps beating me at the former though, but I
love the way the traditional videogames player isn't necessarily the best at
all the games. Unfortunately, I'm sure that will change eventually though.
Wii Play (Wii) - but only two player? Shocking. I definitely prefer Sports
to Wii, but then I'm gonna be playing more alone than otherwise.
>
> WANT
>
Zelda (Wii) - ordered this separately from the console, but it shipped from
HMV on Friday so I'm expecting it today sometime.
Gears of War (360) - a friend is going away for Christmas and so I get to
nab his Xbox and GOW. My only worry is that I'll be torn between this and
the above.
>
> BIN
>
Wii Issues - That nagging feeling that is all just a gimmik. My dad beats me
at bowling, but not 'cos he knows what he's doing - his random waving just
happens to work well with the game. Everyone, including me, is having
trouble putting in golf. Tennis sometimes ties you up as you go for the
wrong kind of shot and at times it all seems a bit... woolly. But then I
never bought this for the technical gubbins.
Out of Sync Miis - So I send and copy a Mii to a friend and remote
respectively. I then (for eg) change my hair colour, but of course, the
others then fall out of sync. And of course you cant save, say, Sports stats
onto your remote. And where are all the system files kept? Why do I have a
1GB SD card in my Wii if it's not going to be used transparently?
Shak
Martin Linklater
No Wii for mii. Not until there are more games.
Oblivion (360) - About 50 hours into my second go of this and I've just
finished the main plot line. Great game but I am starting to tire of
the mission format a little. Finding it hard to motivate myself into
clearing up the rest of the achievement points.
Beyond Good & Evil (XBox) - Picked this up last week for cheap. Great
game so far. Love the art style and quality of presentation. Need to
spend some quality time on this one.
TOCA 3 (XBox) - Been ploughing through this at work at lunch times and
I'm getting well sick of the stupid AI. Setting the game to normal
means I romp home. Setting it to hard means the stupid AI keeps
spinning me out while I'm racing in the pack. Tiring.
Want:
Gears (360 - I know where it is. It's wrapped up and in the spare room.
But I must wait until the 25th to have a go. Bah. I hate Christams.
A Wii - but only when there are more games. Probably next year when the
new Mario is out I can convince the missus to let me have one.
Bin:
Now much. Central heating probalby. Had a right nightmare this last
week. Not had much gameplaying time. bah.
Mal Franks
the_rev_y...@hotmail.com says...
> PLAY
Dark Age Of Camelot: Darkness Rising [EU] (PC)
Solely concentrated on levelling my scout this weekend as I can't wait
to take it out into the RvR zones, going around it in near invisible
Stealth mode and shoot people with pointy sticks and run off and re-
Stealth again before they get to me. By the end of the weekend it was
level 47 and just a small distance from reaching 48.
Unfortunately if I take it to 48 before 10.30pm on thursday it'd miss
out on its final "free" level*. So I have restrain myself from doing so,
claim the free level and due to earning almost 48 but not 48 already,
it'll take almost to level 49.
Once it hits 49, I've got a ton of quests for it to do, plus some kill
task items which can be handed in for experience and it'll be pretty
quick to get it to 50 and then out to harass enemy realms.
* get a free level every 7 days providing you've gained at least one
level before you claim it
Didn't play any other game this weekend.
> WANT
Thursday to hurry up so I can enjoy the DAOC scout more.
A decent fridge/freezer
> BIN
Waiting 7 days for free levels because our realm has the highest
population. Whereas on Gaheris US server I can get one every 2 days
Wasting valuable game time, defrosting the freezer.
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World Of Warcraft: Byrex (Warlock), (Hunter) [Horde,Wildhammer]
Beck
Not played much this week. In fact I have played nothing. Not even got
round to downloading Roboblitz for 360. I am in a game lull.
Want - Zelda for Gamecube. No Wii for me :-)
Bin - Super Mario Bros DS. Damn that game is a PITA. The way you can only
save after doing a number of levels really pissed me off. It has gone to
the Gamestation trade bin.
Kendrick Kerwin Chua
The Rev <the_rev_y...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>PLAY
It's an all Phantasy Star Universe (PS2) weekend for me. A couple of
highlights:
* If any of you have been on the fence about the monthly fee, you should
be informed that there are now online-only quests that continue the plot
from the offline game. Your online character is inserted into the story as
a generic Guardian recruit, and your first training mission gets more
complicated than anybody intended. Without spoiling too much, let's just
say that Ethan Waber makes for an interesting adversary.
* European players are ace, in general. They're polite, generous, and
interesting to talk to. American players are shit, in general. They
complain too much and play too little. I demand that every European player
put a little blue flag with a circle of white stars on their partner card
so that I can seek them out. :)
* As an replacement for the old PSO Mag, the Partner Machine is more
useful. It takes on human form, follows you on missions and wields weapons
and spells with skill. However, it also participates in chat conversation,
and everything the AI says on the battlefield sounds dirty. "You left an
opening! I feel refreshed. The back side is exposed. Oh! Approach from
behind!" And so forth.
>The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (WII) - The big game of the
>launch. The solid, sit-down epic. Didn't dare start it up until 9pm on
<snip>
>with fun combat mechanics and puzzles that have stumped me just long
>enough, but not too long. (Though I had to leave the second dungeon with
>two chests unclaimed. No idea how to get to them.) I've just finished
Isn't it a cardinal rule of action-RPG titles that every dungeon has
treasure you can't get to until you've acquired power-up items from much
later in the game?
>WANT
Final Fantasy I & II Dawn of Souls (GBA) - I'm been forbidden to buy this
by the woman of the house. She's not ordinarily subtle when it comes to
Christmas gifsts. :)
>BIN
Japanese RPG cliches - So in Phantasy Star Universe, A-photons are this
great new power source that's clean, efficient and almost inexhaustible.
And, oh yes, it's incredibly dangerous and will kill us all. Can I get
through at least one Japanese RPG without a metaphor for nuclear power,
please?
-KKC, fighting a losing battle with Veritas BackupExec.
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The Rev
> In article <4u4ne2F...@mid.individual.net>,
> The Rev <the_rev_y...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (WII) -
>> two chests unclaimed. No idea how to get to them.)
>
> treasure you can't get to until you've acquired power-up items from much
> later in the game?
Not Zelda, I don't think, though maybe in this case. I managed to get
everything in the first dungeon okay.
Chris Whitworth
Phoenix Wright (DS) - On (what I think is) the last case - the one where lbh
unir gb qrsraq Rqtrjbegu. Even though it's very little more than an interactive
comic book, it's one of the most consistently entertaining games I've played,
well, ever.
Viva Pinata (X360) - so, I've taken a step back from this and decided to try
and concentrate on one thing at a time and it makes a lot more sense this
way: I'll worry about learning what all the other people do when I need them,
but for the moment, I'm concentrating on my bunny breeding programme. They're
irritatingly nervy little buggers, though (they seem a bit better than the
mousemallows) and won't go where I tell them half the time.
Tiger Woods 07 (X360) - On the one hand, it's annoying that I can play a Tiger
Challenge for over an hour and at the end of it, still lose. On the other,
it's such a brilliant game that I don't really mind trying it again.
Wii Sports (Wii) - Tennis: I suck. Baseball: I suck. Bowling: ACESEXBEST.
Boxing: Exhausting. Golf: I suck, but not as much as tennis and baseball.
Overall, it's good fun, and I can see multiplayer being a right laugh,
especially tennis and boxing. Wouldn't like to have had to shell out 40quid
for it (although maybe I effectively did by paying 180quid for the console)
but as a bundled game to show off the controller to the non-gamer style
audience, it's excellent.
Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (Wii) - This could end up being my game of
the year; my only concern so far is that it could end up being /too/ big. But
every square centimetre of the game is so exquisitely beautiful and well
crafted it's almost impossible to not enjoy yourself when playing it. I spent
a good half hour fishing last night: best minigame evar.
Being at a wedding in Ireland (RL)
WANT
Smash Bros Brawl (Wii) - And a bunch of extra controllers to go with it. Melee
was the most-played multiplayer title on my Cube, and the one that most
"non-gamers" liked, so I've got high hopes for this one.
Mario Galaxy (Wii)
Some sort of tactical RPG (Wii) - That Fire Emblem game, for example. Please.
Or, better, a Final Fantasy Tactics game.
Metroid (Wii) - Playing the slingshot minigame in Zelda, I could help but
think "Fuck me, Metroid is going to rock with these controls".
BIN
Weddings. Too many people, too much stress, too much socialite bantering with
distant relatives of friends of relatives who you don't know and don't care
about, too much pretending to be enjoying yourself when all you want to do is
go and hide in a corner somewhere and play Phoenix Wright and/or go to sleep.
Just all round Too Much. This is probably a bad thing, as I'm getting married
in August.
The Wii System Update thingy: Turn on my Wii, connect to wireless network:
system update! Takes 15 minutes, make cup of tea. Reboot, connects to internet,
another system update! Ooo...kay. Looks like it'll take ages again, so browse
internet for a while. Notice after 15 minutes the progress bar hasn't moved
since the last time I looked. Poke buttons a bit, nothing. Reboot wireless
router, nothing. Disconnect and reconnect ADSL modem. Nothing. So in the end I
ignore the "Do not turn off your console" message and do just that. Restart,
and it downloads the update without a problem. Time from plugging in to working
console: over an hour. Bad, bad, bad Nintendo.
Chris
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"Back when I was young, we had to travel back in time to put the tape in so
the game would load before we died."
[ste parker]
>
> Bin - Super Mario Bros DS. Damn that game is a PITA. The way you can
> only save after doing a number of levels really pissed me off. It has
> gone to the Gamestation trade bin.
Surely you could save pretty much whenever you wanted? I always had a
supply of more coins and mushroom houses than I needed to go anywhere near.
--
[ste]
deKay
2006 09:41:16 +0000, sefini jorgo geanyet des mani yeof do
uk.games.video.misc, yawatina tan reek esk The Rev
<the_rev_y...@hotmail.com> fornis do marikano es bono tan el:
>PLAY
Wii
It's ace, isn't it? It really is.
Wii Sports (Wii)
Boxing is one of the best (and most painful) things I've played all year.
Baseball and Tennis are good, Golf is a bit hit and miss (ha!), but Bowling is
acexcellent.
Wii Play (Wii)
But not much. Billiards is fantastic, most of the other games seem like
filler (but fun filler).
Raymang Raving Rabbids (that's RABBIDS for those of you still spelling it
"Rabbits" or even "Bunnies" like it was listed online somewhere) (Wii)
Arms! Aching! Carrot juice pumping! Torture! Just! One! More! Go! Dancing
game is excellence. Love the shooting sections too. And it's FUNNY. Even
when you look through the window and a bird craps on your face *and actually
into your eye*.
Super Monkey Ball: Bananananana Blitz (Wii)
Mainly in single player, of which I've reached 7-2. It really feels like an
evolution of SMB rather than a sequel, but that's a good thing.
Mario 64 (Wii)
I have about 15 stars so far. I'm not 100% certain I'll get them all (I've
done that lots of times before), but I'll certainly be completing this. It's
FUN with a capital FUN.
Sonic the Hedgehog (Wii)
Completed, with all Chaos Emeralds, and died only once (on the Spring Yard
Zone boss, actually). Haven't actually played it in a couple of years, and
very nearly didn't get all the emeralds having cfuffed up both Marble Zone
attempts, but it's still one of the greatest games ever made ever. And it
works well with the remote sideways.
Bomberman '93 (Wii)
In both multiplayer and single player configurations. Onto World 2 in the
latter.
Bonk's Adventure (Wii)
There's a pattern here. All of the VC games I have downloaded, I own at least
twice already, and yet I've bought them again. Anyway, this is ACE too. I'm
on World 2 here as well.
Animal Crossing (DS)
Almost up to the full year. K.K. played King K.K. That is all.
>WANT
Every Wii game ever.
Every DS game ever.
More time to play the above.
>Rayman Raving Rabbids (WII) - Short, I've heard. I've also heard that
>not all the games are much fun. And it's not in widescreen, incredibly.
>But I still want it. And since seeing the trailer, so does my wife.
It's a NEED.
>Gunstar Heroes (WII) - Being added to the virtual console this Friday,
>according to a list I saw of upcoming releases. Don't know how accurate
>it was, but I live in hope. Castlevania IV was shown as coming before
>the end of the month, too.
And TOEJAM AND EARL!!!!!
>BIN
Zelda (Wii)
But only because everything else is so fantastic that I haven't even opened it
yet. I mean, I've been waiting for the game for three years, and what do I
play when it finally comes out? A 15 year old title I already own 10 copies
of.
My credit card.
Between the Wii, the Wii games, the VC games, the pile of DS games, some 360
games and, oh yeah, Christmas, I think my card might be broken.
deKay
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[ste parker]
Another thing with Zelda was I thought you always needed just about
everything from every chest (keys and whatnot), or at least you passed
through the dungeon in such a way as you had to hit every room. I was
surprised in OoT last night to get through the Shadow Temple whilst
missing one side room out that had a couple of chests in.
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[ste]
deKay
uk.games.video.misc, yawatina tan reek esk "Beck" <beck@none> fornis do
marikano es bono tan el:
>Bin - Super Mario Bros DS. Damn that game is a PITA. The way you can only
>save after doing a number of levels really pissed me off.
Then play it properly :)
Shak
news:4u4u90F...@mid.individual.net...
You don't HAVE to. The only things you really need are the keys and special
items. You wouldn't need the maps or compasses, or chests with just Rupees
in them for example.
Still, when playing the first time, you generally automatically pick them
all up. I think it's due to the genius design, and not having to "go back"
is one reason I love Zelda games.
Shak
Shak
news:slrnenqgd7.uq...@parm.vs.topper.me.uk...
> BIN
> The Wii System Update thingy: Turn on my Wii, connect to wireless network:
> system update! Takes 15 minutes, make cup of tea. Reboot, connects to
> internet,
> another system update! Ooo...kay. Looks like it'll take ages again, so
> browse
> internet for a while. Notice after 15 minutes the progress bar hasn't
> moved
> since the last time I looked. Poke buttons a bit, nothing. Reboot wireless
> router, nothing. Disconnect and reconnect ADSL modem. Nothing. So in the
> end I
> ignore the "Do not turn off your console" message and do just that.
> Restart,
> and it downloads the update without a problem. Time from plugging in to
> working
> console: over an hour. Bad, bad, bad Nintendo.
Each of my updates took less than 2 mins. The whole thing took around 5 to
do.
Shak
Beck
My mushroom houses disappeared as soon as I saved so had to wait until the
next house to be able to save. This is usually every 3-4 levels
deKay
uk.games.video.misc, yawatina tan reek esk "Shak" <m...@privacy.net> fornis do
marikano es bono tan el:
>> BIN
>> The Wii System Update thingy: Turn on my Wii, connect to wireless network:
>> system update! Takes 15 minutes, make cup of tea. Reboot, connects to
>> internet,
>> another system update! Ooo...kay. Looks like it'll take ages again, so
>> browse
>> internet for a while. Notice after 15 minutes the progress bar hasn't
>> moved
>> since the last time I looked. Poke buttons a bit, nothing. Reboot wireless
>> router, nothing. Disconnect and reconnect ADSL modem. Nothing. So in the
>> end I
>> ignore the "Do not turn off your console" message and do just that.
>> Restart,
>> and it downloads the update without a problem. Time from plugging in to
>> working
>> console: over an hour. Bad, bad, bad Nintendo.
>
>Each of my updates took less than 2 mins. The whole thing took around 5 to
>do.
Ditto here. In fact, one of the updates was so quick I looked away to unpack
my nunchuk controller and it had finished when I looked back.
Zomoniac
> PLAY
I'm going to be very odd and start with a non-Wii game:
Peter Jackson's King Kong: The Official Game Of The Movie (360) - Wank
name. I decided on Wednesday that I wanted to finish a game before my
Wii came, and I'd had this for a year and played about half an hour.
Started it on Wednesday night, finished it on Thursday night after
about 6-7 hours playtime. Short but sweet, often very fun (mainly the
Kong on-rails chase scenes), lots of annoying bits (find door that
needs two handles but only has one handle, find stick, find fire, use
fire to burn down bush, pick up handle from behind bush to open door
around six thousand times), and precisely no story-telling whatsoever,
which is odd for an on-rails film tie-in. NYC level was bloody
irritating. But on the whole it was decent fun, and recommended for the
tenner or so you can pick it up for now, if only for the easy
gamerpoints :)
and now...
Wii (Wii) - When I found out Gameplay were rubbish and hadn't sent me
any spare controllers I went down to my local indie to pick up two
copies of Wii Play. They thought I was strange. This was at 10am, and
my machine didn't arrive till about 2, so I spent a while fondling the
controller and marvelling at its smallness, comfiness (although it's
very uncomfy on its side due to the top end having a big hole in it and
the bottom and having batteries so completely off-balancing it) and the
downright sexiness of the blue neon. Then it came. It's feckin'
gorgeous. However, the fact that if you want to be able to use a
Wavebird with it laid flat then you have to take panels off is fucking
stupid, so I had to rearrange everything and put it on its end. But
it's prettier this way. So I plugged it in, spent a while gawking at
the fact that the little hand turned round when I twisted the remote,
and then connected it to the internet, which was nice and easy,
downloaded lots of updates, browsed the VC bit, bought SM64 (haven't
played it yet though), made a Mii, then got bored of menus and decided
to play some games...
Wii Sports (Wii) - Wii Sports is incredibly good fun. As an intro to a
fun machine, it's perfect. As a game, it isn't. Whilst playing Tennis
is a great laugh, and I've learnt to live with the fact that I can't
move my dude, it (along with Zelda, more on that later) is proof to me
that the controller is perfect for fun-ness, but just isn't up to the
job of reinventing gaming. It simply isn't accurate enough. Apparently,
the way I swing will influence the type of shot, but it's all very
vague. This is particularly noticeable on the training mode when you
have more time to judge the type of shot you want to play. Do I
sweeping underarm stroke for a lob? I did, and it did a lob. T'was ace.
Then I did the same motion, with no more power or distance, and it did
a lob at double the height. Then I did the same motion again, and it
did a top-spin smash off the court. Yes, it's immense fun in
multiplayer, but it can get very, very frustrating when you're swinging
to do a forehanded cross-court backspin shot and your little Miitard
goes and twats it with his backhand at light speed in the other
direction. Bowling, on the other hand, is just brilliant (except when
it arses up and says "hold B to take your shot" midway through your
swing, when your swinging with exactly the same perfect technique that
just got you four strikes in a row). Probably because it needs sod all
info (a touch of velocity and a vague idea of your spin - although it
seems to sometimes get that wrong). But this is fun and when you shag
up it feels like its your fault, as opposed to the others where it
feels like the machine's in error. Golf almost works, but it has a
little line with dots telling you how hard to hit it. So you hit it a
bit short, in the hope that it'll bounce, and the first bounce lands
40m beyond the pin, on a windless course. It would be ace if it didn't
seem to overhit everything. Also, the remote just isn't long enough to
hold with two hands in a baseball bat/golf club style, which makes it a
bit awkward. Fun but flawed. Baseball I just can't do, I hit the ball
about 30% of the time, and as such don't enjoy it. Dunno if it's
rubbish or I am, but for once I suspect the latter. Boxing is pointless
crap, it doesn't work, what you do bears no resemblence to the
on-screen antics of your dudes, so it probably won't be making a
re-appearance. My summarising thoughts are that it's great fun for
certain games, it's a fantastic party game and a great Wii showpiece.
However, as a Wii showpiece it also shows a lot of the flaws in the
system. My hope is that the 'proper' sports games, starting with the
Everybody's Golf (I think) one, will have a bit more depth and
precision. It's the perfect launch-day bundle giveaway, nothing more,
nothing less.
Wii Play (Wii) - Will almost certainly be the biggest selling Wii game
for launch week (Wii Sports doesn't count), since it was the only way
anyone could get hold of spare remotes. A friend beat me by the
astonishing score of 1300 to -90 (that's minus 90) on the fishing game.
I couldn't get to grips with the tank game or the pool one, but
airhockey and the duck-hunt one were cool. Find Mii was a bit rubbish,
as was the pose-matching one and the cow one. Can't remember the
others. It's fun for a fiver, but any more and it would've been
overpriced.
Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz (Wii) - Oh dear god. My favourite party
game ever has been destroyed. This is just so completely wrong and
offensively broken that it makes me want to cry. The main game is ok,
but I don't but Monkey Ball for the main game. We played Monkey Target,
which was ok but paled in comparison to the other two, Monkey Race with
steering that didn't work at all, Rock Paper Scissors Attack, which had
buttons for rock, paper, scissors and whack your opponent over the head
with a hammer (!), for which none of the buttons worked, Ring-Toss,
which said aim with the point then press A to toss, so I aimed, pressed
A, nothing happened, pressed all the other buttons, nothing happened,
waved my controller vigorously, nothing happened, got pissed off, and
turned it off to play a decent mini-game game...
Rayman: Raving Rabbids (Wii) - Everything a mini-game game should be.
Fun, insane and frantic. Laugh-out loud funny, innovative, and just
downright brilliant. My dad walked in as a friend and I were
co-operatively shooting drugged up native American rabbits dressed as
Elvis with sink plungers to country music, and couldn't contain
himself. So far I have had to do this as well as run very fast to
deliver a box with dynamite in it, draw a tennis ball for a rabbit to
eat, dance to the Pulp Fiction theme tune and see how far I can throw a
cow. Ace.
Legend Of Zelda: Twilight Princess (Wii) - The big one. Only 45 minutes
in. Hit and miss. The controls on foot are nice, the lack of camera
control is very annoying, the tasks so far have been mundane and
irritating, the graphics are very poor compared to even an average 360
game, the lack of voice is irritating (I can understand why they
wouldn't want to voice Link, but reading what all the NPCs have to say
is an irritating chore), it took about 30 seconds to climb the first
climbable tree in the game, which is far too long, but it has a strange
charm that, despite all its grating flaws, makes it a joy to play, with
two big exceptions. The first is the control on the horse which is
unresponsive and clunky. If you go within a metre of a wall it seems to
get stuck, so navigating down narrow alleyways can take an age. The
other thing that really got me is the sword-play, which is the biggest
proof yet (for me, at least) that the Wii controller just isn't
anywhere near as flexible and accurate as I'd hoped. I kinda figured
the whole point of this was that your actions are replicated on screen.
To do a horizontal slice, you slice the remote across, to do a vertical
slice, you slice it down, and to do a stab you stab it forward. That
would be great, you'd feel in control. But instead, to do a horizontal
slice you wave the remote, to do a vertical slice you press a button
and wave the remote, and to stab you press a different button and wave
the remote. This means you actually have to think about what you're
doing, and thus any sense of immersion is removed, and it feels
completely unnatural and uninstinctive, and therefore entirely
defeating the point of what the remote is for. It does significantly
enhance slingshot/hawk aiming, but for swordplay it's just downright
shite. Very hit and miss, but I intend to persevere.
Also played the usual 360 games, Tiger, Gears, FIFA, that kind of thing.
> WANT
Wii 2. A bit premature, I know, but when I'm playing I'm constantly
thinking what a fantastic idea this could be. It's such a brilliant
concept, but the technology just isn't up to the standards I expect.
It's kinda like the bits on the Sonic games where you walk up to a
speed booster just before a loop the loop. You control the initial
setting off, and then get to watch a really cool scene of him speeding
round, and it's ace but you can't help feel that most of the time
you're just a pawn triggering the game into an auto-pilot mode of which
you have no control.
Sonic/Excite Truck (Wii) - But less than I did, as the Wii Play Cow
Race and Monkey Race have me thinking that the whole controller-on-side
mechanic is a) uncomfy and b) inaccurate.
> BIN
Wii (Wii) - So much is so good. Connecting to the net was a doddle
(except on Mary's where it gave an error code for no reason, but as
soon as I took it off DHCP and gave it a static it worked fine),
setting it up is easy, but some things are just stupid. She started a
Zelda game on my Wii, we put her save on an SD card, set up her Wii,
plugged in the card but nothing happened. Connected it to the internet
to activate the SD card (a fucking joke), then when it could see the
card, tried to transfer the save, but couldn't, as apparently you have
to have played the game on that machine before you can transfer the
save. Why you have to do this is beyond me. Also, putting Miis on the
remote is ace, but pointless if you can't put the stats on there as
well. Also, you can't put Miis on an SD card, so there is no way at all
to transfer your Mii plus stats to another machine, so when Mary set up
her Wii and wanted her Mii and Zelda save, we had to put Zelda on the
SD card, connect to the internet, play Zelda, transfer the save, then
connect the remote and transfer the Mii, all stats lost. Stupid.
Hopefully updates will make all this easier (although my guess is the
US will get the necessary updates to make it all work and NOE won't put
them out cos they're retards).
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Shak
news:4u51nnF...@mid.individual.net...
I agree with most of your post, and I wouldn't call you cynical or anything
for saying what you had. Everywhere I will play Wii regularly now has a Shak
Mii anyway, so storing it on the remote is kinda useless. Not sure why you
need space for 10 either. The whole storage/persistance system, whether it's
names in address books, Miis, or save games just seem a bit too...
inconsistent and ill thought out.
The thing is, I don't feel any of the flaws are technical - they're more
policy and as such will be much more difficult to change or fix. I'll say it
again though - I didn't buy a Wii cos of the motion stuff just like I didn't
buy a DS for the touchscreen. I just wish they didn't ram it down our
throats (I'd have liked a "traditional" control option in Zelda, at least).
Shak
The Rev
>
> the controller is perfect for fun-ness, but just isn't up to the job of
> reinventing gaming. It simply isn't accurate enough.
>
> other thing that really got me is the sword-play, which is the biggest
> proof yet (for me, at least) that the Wii controller just isn't anywhere
> near as flexible and accurate as I'd hoped.
How you can say the controllers aren't accurate after playing Monkey
Ball I do not know. It's obvious from playing the game that the
controller is incredibly accurate. So the reason tennis and Zelda are
like they are must be because they're designed that way as games, not
because of the controller.
> Boxing is pointless crap, it doesn't work, what you
> do bears no resemblence to the on-screen antics of your dudes, so it
> probably won't be making a re-appearance.
I've seen a few people say this, but I'm not sure why. (Unless you mean
that the gloves don't follow the exact movements of your hands.) I
didn't notice any problems when I played. Lots of weaving, blocking and
punching going on. It really seems to be splitting people.
DBSnappa
then. It only really becomes a problem on the last half of the last
world that has about five tricky levels back to back with no save
in-between.
Zomoniac
> Zomoniac wrote:
>>
>> the controller is perfect for fun-ness, but just isn't up to the job of
>> reinventing gaming. It simply isn't accurate enough.
>>
>> The other thing that really got me is the sword-play, which is the
>> biggest proof yet (for me, at least) that the Wii controller just isn't
>> anywhere near as flexible and accurate as I'd hoped.
>
> How you can say the controllers aren't accurate after playing Monkey
> Ball I do not know. It's obvious from playing the game that the
> controller is incredibly accurate. So the reason tennis and Zelda are
> like they are must be because they're designed that way as games, not
> because of the controller.
It seems very good as a pointer and for slight, sensitive movements, so
it's perfect for stuff like slingshot aiming and precisely tilting
levels. But when you slash it quickly from side-to-side or up-and-down,
it clearly has no idea what you're actually doing with it, just that
it's being moved.
> > Boxing is pointless crap, it doesn't work, what you
> > do bears no resemblence to the on-screen antics of your dudes, so it
> > probably won't be making a re-appearance.
>
> I've seen a few people say this, but I'm not sure why. (Unless you mean
> that the gloves don't follow the exact movements of your hands.) I
> didn't notice any problems when I played. Lots of weaving, blocking and
> punching going on. It really seems to be splitting people.
I just didn't get it. Half my punches weren't being punched, half my
dodges weren't registering, it just felt very hit and miss.
Shak
I think that once you start playing the games in thier own right, with
knowledge of their limits, then they become more fun. A friend jumped into
boxing and started jabbing like a maniac, wondering why his boxer wasn't
doing the same.
Perhaps that's why Rayman seems to be doing so well.
Shak
Zomoniac
Rayman is the best Wii launch title for the simple reason of it being
the only one where the whole time you're playing it actually does what
you expect it to do.
Shak
Which was kinda my point. I've never thrown a cow, so I can't compare what I
think I'm doing in the game to real life.
It goes back to that inability to suspend of disbelief as things become more
real point you made last week.
Shak
DBSnappa
> On 2006-12-11 13:04:34 +0000, The Rev <the_rev_y...@hotmail.com>
> said:
>
>> Zomoniac wrote:
>>>
>>> the controller is perfect for fun-ness, but just isn't up to the job
>>> of reinventing gaming. It simply isn't accurate enough.
>>>
>>> The other thing that really got me is the sword-play, which is the
>>> biggest proof yet (for me, at least) that the Wii controller just
>>> isn't anywhere near as flexible and accurate as I'd hoped.
>>
>> How you can say the controllers aren't accurate after playing Monkey
>> Ball I do not know. It's obvious from playing the game that the
>> controller is incredibly accurate. So the reason tennis and Zelda are
>> like they are must be because they're designed that way as games, not
>> because of the controller.
>
> It seems very good as a pointer and for slight, sensitive movements, so
> it's perfect for stuff like slingshot aiming and precisely tilting
> levels. But when you slash it quickly from side-to-side or up-and-down,
> it clearly has no idea what you're actually doing with it, just that
> it's being moved.
>
that it requires a little thought and in that regard it's always felt
that way to me a little - I remember playing OoT for the first time and
finding the combat a lot harder in that than it is in TP.
Also, if you think about it, the margins for error they would have to
build into the game and the device to accurately do what /you/ think it
should be doing would make the game unplayable and lead to a very steep
if not impossible learning curve. You couldn't really say that you would
accurately swing the wiimote up and down, or side to side or stab it
forward every time, could you - it's a necessary compromise that has
been designed in. I suspect that if you give it time, it will become
entirely intuitive.
And as for the horse, well she looks uncannily like the one my missus
owns, apart from the gender, and trust me if it was accurate, every time
a tree rustled, or a scary thing like a crisp packet blew in front of
it, never mind trying to get it down a narrow path, the horse would be
running away in a direction the opposite of what you intended. They are
not clever animals and they're very big and difficult to control :D
If I were to level any criticism at the the wiimote and nunchuk, it
would be that they're a little uncomfortable to use for extended
periods, and that is really nit-picking as all controllers are
uncomfortable if used for extended periods.
Shak
news:PHdfh.93846$qd7....@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>
> I really like the haptic interface for combat in Zelda. I like the fact
> that it requires a little thought and in that regard it's always felt that
> way to me a little - I remember playing OoT for the first time and finding
> the combat a lot harder in that than it is in TP.
> Also, if you think about it, the margins for error they would have to
> build into the game and the device to accurately do what /you/ think it
> should be doing would make the game unplayable and lead to a very steep if
> not impossible learning curve. You couldn't really say that you would
> accurately swing the wiimote up and down, or side to side or stab it
> forward every time, could you - it's a necessary compromise that has been
> designed in. I suspect that if you give it time, it will become entirely
> intuitive.
>
I've not played Zelda yet so won't comment, but I think a lot of the
controller moans have to do with the lag present. Is it just me, or is there
a noticable delay between moving and detecting?
Shak
DBSnappa
> PLAY
>
Wii Play. As a device for training you to use the control it's alright,
but I wasn't terribly impressed tbh. Duck hunt is quite good, billiards
is quite good, laser tennis is alright, but very fiddly on the couple of
goes I had, the tank game is quite good fun, the rest are rubbish. The
free controller is excellent, however :)
Wii Sports. Tennis is OK, bowling is brilliant but too easy, baseball is
boring, and golf feels broken, but I may have another go. Haven't tried
boxing yet.
Zelda:TP (Wii) I was initially very disappointed with how this looked on
my HDTV, as well as thinking the animation for crawling and climbing
wasn't very good. I only played for half an hour initially. On a later
go, the Zelda magic started to permeate and I started to notice that
even though the graphics are a lo-res blur, it's still quite beautifully
designed. I personally think the haptic interface for this makes very
good use of the tech. Not very far in due to teenage birthdays and
office desk distractions, but I have a strong feeling of *need* to spend
more time in Hyrule. I will definitely be playing this a lot.
Wii: In general, I have to say I'm impressed. It's fun, feels quite well
designed and the controller is very good. I have faith that this will be
a good machine to own and will succeed more so that the previous two
Nintendo machines. I'm looking forward to playing Zelda and looking
forward to playing Wii Sports multiplayer some more and I'm looking
forward to what it will bring in the future.
My desk (RL) is finished and once treated properly (I'm just sealing the
surface with PVA) will make a big difference and allow me to get all my
'pootahs, scanner and printer back in one place rather than scattered
all over the house. I blame the weather for this taking so long!
>
> WANT
>
Not much really.
Some clients to pay me before Christmas is a near must, but I can't
think of anything gaming wise I either need or want right now.
>
> BIN
>
mmmm, a stack of kiddies games that belong to my daughter that she no
longer plays and have taken up residence in my office. A trip to a
charity store is required unless anybody has some young kids that want
simple puzzles and games?
Gunther Gloop
> Bin - Super Mario Bros DS. Damn that game is a PITA. The way you
> can only save after doing a number of levels really pissed me off. It has
> gone to the Gamestation trade bin.
Tsk tsk. You played it wrong is all.
If you scooted through it, completing the game without worrying about
getting coins, etc., _then_ you can save anywhere any time, whilst going
back for the coins. ...Makes the game soo much better.
-Kevin.
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Rach
> My credit card.
> Between the Wii, the Wii games, the VC games, the pile of DS games, some 360
> games and, oh yeah, Christmas, I think my card might be broken.
Give it to me, I'm sure I'll manage to get it working again :)
Damn to not having a credit card! I wish they accepted other cards!
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deKay
uk.games.video.misc, yawatina tan reek esk Rach <ra...@thisisntmyaddress.com>
fornis do marikano es bono tan el:
>deKay wrote:
>
>> My credit card.
>> Between the Wii, the Wii games, the VC games, the pile of DS games, some 360
>> games and, oh yeah, Christmas, I think my card might be broken.
>
>Give it to me, I'm sure I'll manage to get it working again :)
I would, but only because your Mii is well fit.
>Damn to not having a credit card! I wish they accepted other cards!
They should access Maestro and Visa Delta, I'd have thought.
Nils Tanner
<usenet...@parm.net> got it all completely wrong and wrote:
>PLAY
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>Phoenix Wright (DS) - On (what I think is) the last case - the one where lbh
>unir gb qrsraq Rqtrjbegu. Even though it's very little more than an interactive
>comic book, it's one of the most consistently entertaining games I've played,
>well, ever.
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That would be case 4, if I remember correctly. There's another one.
Which is larger and adds some new (gimmicky, but fun) stuff.
The Rev
>
> I've not played Zelda yet so won't comment, but I think a lot of the
> controller moans have to do with the lag present. Is it just me, or is there
> a noticable delay between moving and detecting?
Seems certain HD-TVs take a while to deinterlace the picture, or
something, which is causing lag for some people.
You're not running a Samsung LCD are you? Lots of people seem to be
reporting problems with them.
Nils Tanner
<the_rev_y...@hotmail.com> got it all completely wrong and
wrote:
PLAY
Wii games, obviously. It's just great, if you ask me. We played some
Wii Sports, Play, Red Steel and Zelda. Whilst Red Steel is a bit hit
and miss sometimes (but quite ok for a launch title), I didn't really
play Zelda, as my girlfriend hogged some 10 odd hours on it. So it
seems to be good.
Wii Play didn't get that much attention, but Sports did. Her father
visited us this weekend, and he's not really a gamer at all. He picked
up the Wiimote, started playing Wii sports, and we more or less had to
drag him off the console a few hours later. Nintendo certainly did
something right if they want to attract new customers, i.e. non-gamers
:-)
Phoenix Wright. Last case, by now. I suspect there's still quite a way
to go, but OTOH I'm on the last day now (at least I expect it to be
the last day). Great fun indeed!
WANT:
Wii codes. To share some Miis.
BIN:
I'm generous. Nothing.
The Rev
>
> Wii codes. To share some Miis.
I added you on Friday, but last I checked you'd not added me back.
Shak
news:a53rn21dbtruukoqg...@4ax.com...
> WANT:
>
> Wii codes. To share some Miis.
I've added you but you're still inactive. And also, check the Wii Numbers
thread on UGVN for a sheet full of more numbers.
Shak
DBSnappa
so I sent him a George Michael back!
Nils Tanner
got it all completely wrong and wrote:
Hm. Somehow I didn't have IGVN in my groups, so my fault there :-(
Wiill alter this tonight/tomorrow
Nils Tanner
<the_rev_y...@hotmail.com> got it all completely wrong and
wrote:
>Nils Tanner wrote:
>>
>> Wii codes. To share some Miis.
>
>I added you on Friday, but last I checked you'd not added me back.
Did you post your number in here? Didn't see it, maybe I'm missing
some posts. ALthough I have to say, if you posted your number in UGVN,
I was to stupid to add that group to my newsreader, so I'm entirely to
blame...that is, I blame someone else! Yes!
The Rev
Toby Newman
Nice pink shirt :)
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Nils Tanner
Thanks a lot!
Added you 5 minutes ago, so it should be ok now :-)
James Sutherland
@mid.individual.net:
> PLAY
Mario 64 (Wii) - I'm still holding off on Zelda until I can get decent
video out of the sodding thing. Which seems rather harder now it turns
out the US ones don't do RGB. Anyway, I've now got just under 70 stars on
Mario 64.
Touch Detective (DS) - I've mostly been playing this all weekend. It's a
totally traditional point and click adventure, but with a nicely odd
setting and amusing dialogue. About the nearest thing I could compare it
to is Grim Fandango, but it's not really that similar. I'm about half way
through the fourth case (out of five).
Castlevania Portrait of Ruin (DS) - Well, I've watched the intro, anyway.
Dawn of Sorrow is probably my favourite DS game, so I have high hopes for
this one.
> Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz (WII) - This is superb. Absolutely
> superb.
I'm glad it's not just me. The control is just perfect, as far as I'm
concerned. I'm not interested in the mini games, but the main game is
excellent.
> Donkey Kong (WII) - Seems too easy to me.
It's missing a level, isn't it? Compared to the arcade version, I mean.
> WANT
>
> Gunstar Heroes (WII) - Being added to the virtual console this Friday,
> according to a list I saw of upcoming releases.
I think it's on the US one today. If you see it cheap and can play
Japanese PS2 games, the Sega Ages version is excellent, and comes with a
few other Treasure Megadrive games, extras and all language versions of
the games.
I want Kororinpa (Wii) to come out in the west, because it looks like
just my kind of thing:
http://nfggames.com/games/Kororinpa/
> BIN
Amazon's seemingly broken delivery estimates. The Wii I ordered on Friday
has a delivery estimate of 12 Dec 2006-8 Feb 2007. Then again, it's
coming by Citylink, so that's probably optimistic.
Nintendo and their arsing around with video connectors between regions.
Just put enough pins in the socket for all the formats!
Mike Jenkins
> The Rev <the_rev_y...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:4u4ne2F153kkcU1
> @mid.individual.net:
>
> > PLAY
>
> Mario 64 (Wii) - I'm still holding off on Zelda until I can get decent
> video out of the sodding thing. Which seems rather harder now it turns
> out the US ones don't do RGB.
Gah. Do they do s-video?
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James Sutherland
news:1hq73xe.8ghe3n1uy6d34N%mike.jenki...@gmail.com:
> James Sutherland <ja...@guybrush.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> The Rev <the_rev_y...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:4u4ne2F153kkcU1
>> @mid.individual.net:
>>
>> > PLAY
>>
>> Mario 64 (Wii) - I'm still holding off on Zelda until I can get decent
>> video out of the sodding thing. Which seems rather harder now it turns
>> out the US ones don't do RGB.
>
> Gah. Do they do s-video?
Yes. The pins that do RGB on PAL systems do svideo on US ones.
I've gone with the stupidly expensive option of getting a (bidiretional)
component to RGB transcoder, on the basis that I'll probably find other
uses for it in future.
Not that I can find component leads for the thing either.
Mike Jenkins
Erk, echoes of the jolly larks paying £50 for hacked up GC RGB cables
there. I think I'll stick with S-video if I get a US Wii, I've been
pleasantly surprised by the quality of it on my Xbox and PS2.
Gunther Gloop
> Nintendo and their arsing around with video connectors between
> regions. Just put enough pins in the socket for all the formats!
Huh? What's that about?
Kendrick Kerwin Chua
Gunther Gloop <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>James Sutherland wrote:
>> Nintendo and their arsing around with video connectors between
>> regions. Just put enough pins in the socket for all the formats!
>
>Huh? What's that about?
Nintendo has a history of inconsistent video support. The Super Nintendo
provided RGB in the US, but not in EU-region consoles. N64 consoles may or
may not provide RGB depending on when they were made. Gamecube video
lacked RGB in the US region, and all Gamecubes made after a certain date
had no digital port for the component cable. It's maddening.
-KKC, attempting to clean a PS2 DVD drive. Where did all this dust come
from?
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James Sutherland
@mid.individual.net:
> James Sutherland wrote:
>> Nintendo and their arsing around with video connectors between
>> regions. Just put enough pins in the socket for all the formats!
>
> Huh? What's that about?
NTSC Wiis not outputting RGB.
James Sutherland
news:dNKdnRRRKouyK-DY...@io.com:
> In article <4u5qpdF...@mid.individual.net>,
> Gunther Gloop <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>>James Sutherland wrote:
>>> Nintendo and their arsing around with video connectors between
>>> regions. Just put enough pins in the socket for all the formats!
>>
>>Huh? What's that about?
>
> Nintendo has a history of inconsistent video support. The Super
> Nintendo provided RGB in the US, but not in EU-region consoles.
PAL SNES did have RGB, but it was different to the US SNES RGB (one of
them, I forget which, needed capacitors on the RGB lines). Even the NES had
RGB in one region (France) but not in any others. I really don't understand
why they do it, particularly this time when they're making a new socket
anyway. It's not like there aren't people in NTSC regions who'd appreciate
RGB support (albeit only a few).
Are you a moderator on NFG, by the way?
Gunther Gloop
Oh. -Nothing to do with component so?
(...Not that I've been able to find component leads in any region, but I was
wondering if I _can_ buy them from any region for my US Wii)
-Kevin
Lister
wrote:
>deKay wrote:
>
>> My credit card.
>> Between the Wii, the Wii games, the VC games, the pile of DS games, some 360
>> games and, oh yeah, Christmas, I think my card might be broken.
>
>Give it to me, I'm sure I'll manage to get it working again :)
>
>Damn to not having a credit card! I wish they accepted other cards!
Any reason you can't get one? I mean even I have a credit card, and I
don't have a job!
--
We're climbing up the sunshine mountains
Where the pretty brezes blow
We're climbing up the sunshine mountains
Faces all a-glow
James Sutherland
> Oh. -Nothing to do with component so?
>
> (...Not that I've been able to find component leads in any region, but
> I was wondering if I _can_ buy them from any region for my US Wii)
>
The component output is the same for all regions, so you can get a lead
from anywhere. Well, you could if they existed. I have my doubts.
Kendrick Kerwin Chua
I am the only moderator, as a matter of fact. Lawrence recruited me
because I have the unique ability to be very polite towards complete
morons. :) I can be diplomatic where he would be only condescending, and
so GamesX member retention has improved by two percent. :)
Obligatory plug: NeoF***ingGeoMan has run a fansite for game console
modification for the last seven years or so. His forum can be found at
http://www.gamesx.com and a discussion thread about homebrew Wii component
cables was linked by several major news and gaming blogs.
-KKC, who is known by the creative handle of 'Kendrick' on said board.
Chris Whitworth
> The Rev <the_rev_y...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:4u4ne2F153kkcU1
> @mid.individual.net:
>
>> PLAY
>
> Mario 64 (Wii) - I'm still holding off on Zelda until I can get decent
> video out of the sodding thing. Which seems rather harder now it turns
> out the US ones don't do RGB. Anyway, I've now got just under 70 stars on
> Mario 64.
FWIW, I'm using composite AV and I still think Zelda looks gorgeous. I'll buy
an RGB cable at some point, but despite all the "OMG IT IS NOT TEH NEKST
GENERASHUN IT IS TEH SUXX0R" whinging about the graphics going on, I can't
find much to complain about, visually.
Chris
--
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"Back when I was young, we had to travel back in time to put the tape in so
the game would load before we died."
Chris Whitworth
>>Damn to not having a credit card! I wish they accepted other cards!
>
> Any reason you can't get one? I mean even I have a credit card, and I
> don't have a job!
1) This is the least surprising post to ugvm, ever
2) Some people /choose/ to not have credit cards, because it means they can't
get themselves into easy-but-high-interest debt. I dearly, dearly wish all the
online stores like XBox Live et al would take Maestro, because I hate having
to make small purchases on my CC - I know it'll just accumulate and I'll never
really get round to paying it off.
James Sutherland
news:slrnenreli.uq...@parm.vs.topper.me.uk:
> On 2006-12-11, James Sutherland <ja...@guybrush.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> The Rev <the_rev_y...@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:4u4ne2F153kkcU1 @mid.individual.net:
>>
>>> PLAY
>>
>> Mario 64 (Wii) - I'm still holding off on Zelda until I can get
>> decent video out of the sodding thing. Which seems rather harder now
>> it turns out the US ones don't do RGB. Anyway, I've now got just
>> under 70 stars on Mario 64.
>
> FWIW, I'm using composite AV and I still think Zelda looks gorgeous.
I've played about 20 hours of it, but it got to the point I couldn't stand
it any more. I think that spending my days as a graphics programmer doesn't
help, as it makes me hypersensitive to visual flaws and problems.
neil h
> On 2006-12-11, Lister <fa...@SPAMclara.net> wrote:
>>> Damn to not having a credit card! I wish they accepted other cards!
>> Any reason you can't get one? I mean even I have a credit card, and I
>> don't have a job!
>
> 1) This is the least surprising post to ugvm, ever
> 2) Some people /choose/ to not have credit cards, because it means they can't
> get themselves into easy-but-high-interest debt. I dearly, dearly wish all the
> online stores like XBox Live et al would take Maestro, because I hate having
> to make small purchases on my CC - I know it'll just accumulate and I'll never
> really get round to paying it off.
You can buy pre-paid visa vouchers for buying stuff on-line without a
credit card. I don't know if you get the same payment protection, but
it's not a bad idea if you don't have (or want) a credit card.
--
neil h.
http://www.lost.eu/e31c
Chris Whitworth
> Chris Whitworth <usenet...@parm.net> wrote in
> news:slrnenreli.uq...@parm.vs.topper.me.uk:
>
>> On 2006-12-11, James Sutherland <ja...@guybrush.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>> The Rev <the_rev_y...@hotmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:4u4ne2F153kkcU1 @mid.individual.net:
>>>
>>>> PLAY
>>>
>>> Mario 64 (Wii) - I'm still holding off on Zelda until I can get
>>> decent video out of the sodding thing. Which seems rather harder now
>>> it turns out the US ones don't do RGB. Anyway, I've now got just
>>> under 70 stars on Mario 64.
>>
>> FWIW, I'm using composite AV and I still think Zelda looks gorgeous.
>
> I've played about 20 hours of it, but it got to the point I couldn't stand
> it any more. I think that spending my days as a graphics programmer doesn't
> help, as it makes me hypersensitive to visual flaws and problems.
Well, don't forget I used to be a games dev, too, with at least some interest
in GFX. A few things grate - there's some issues with shadows and poly
boundaries, and the low-res textures everyone whines about - but ultimately,
I don't mind too much. But I'll let you know how that stacks up once I hit the
20 hour mark...
Chris Whitworth
Chris Whitworth
> On 2006-12-11, neil h <neil_h...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> You can buy pre-paid visa vouchers for buying stuff on-line without a
>> credit card. I don't know if you get the same payment protection, but
>> it's not a bad idea if you don't have (or want) a credit card.
>>
>> https://www.3v.ie/
>
> Oh, now that *is* interesting. Thanks for that!
>
> https://www.3vcash.com/ appears to be the UK site.
Oh, wait. ukp3.50 per voucher? They can Fuck. Right. Off.
Paul Tomlin
says...
> On 2006-12-11, Lister <fa...@SPAMclara.net> wrote:
> >>Damn to not having a credit card! I wish they accepted other cards!
> >
> > Any reason you can't get one? I mean even I have a credit card, and I
> > don't have a job!
>
> 1) This is the least surprising post to ugvm, ever
> 2) Some people /choose/ to not have credit cards, because it means they can't
> get themselves into easy-but-high-interest debt. I dearly, dearly wish all the
> online stores like XBox Live et al would take Maestro, because I hate having
> to make small purchases on my CC - I know it'll just accumulate and I'll never
> really get round to paying it off.
I just got a Direct Debit set up on my card - the whole lot just comes
out of my bank account at the end of every month automagically. Then
again, I only ever put things I can afford to buy on my CC, so it suits
me perfectly.
Andrew Hollingbury
> Wii (WII)
I hate you all. My sister is the delegated Wii owner of the family, so I
have no excuse to waste my money on one. Christmas shall be entirely
spent playing on hers...
Anyway...
Play:
Dreamfall (XBOX) - rather underwhelming, frankly. It tells a good story,
and despite its lack of puzzles and much actual gameplay I enjoyed it
mostly. However, it doesn't end properly; angling for a sequel to a game
that's had pretty crummy reviews isn't a good move, in my opinion,
although I'd buy it if it did came out. It just feels like it's getting
started when it's all over, basically. It's also too damn short.
Geometry Wars Evolved (360) - can I be pleased I got to 250,000? One of
the best near-fivers I've ever spent.
Tales of Destiny (PS2) - the dungeon design thus far has been
surprisingly crap given that Tales games are usually really good for that
sort of thing, but the battles are ace if a little button-mashy. Story-
wise, hey, it's a Tales game, the plot's superfluous...
Ouendan (DS) - I don't think I'll ever beat Shanghai Honey on Cheer Girls
due to knackering the screen, it's not really entertaining any more.
Will have to go back to a different DS game methinks.
> WANT
Blue Dragon (360) - bah, it's region locked like all Japanese 360 games.
Roll on the English release, I guess; reports are it's easy but ace.
The Settlers (DS) - delayed, rats. I hoped this would be out for
Christmas.
> BIN
Xbox360 backwards compatibility - I now have a useless copy of Fahrenheit
here. More fool me for not checking first, but I thought it might be BC
and as it was BOGOF in Game on Xbox I won't get anything really if I
trade it back in. Maybe there'll be another BC update someday.
Andrew H
James Sutherland
> Well, don't forget I used to be a games dev, too, with at least some
> interest in GFX. A few things grate - there's some issues with shadows
> and poly boundaries, and the low-res textures everyone whines about -
> but ultimately, I don't mind too much.
The game is fine. Looks fantastic in places. It's the component video that
was driving me up the wall.
James Sutherland
news:Xns9896DE2262998ja...@212.23.3.119:
Composite, I mean.
neil h
> On 2006-12-11, Chris Whitworth <usenet...@parm.net> wrote:
>> On 2006-12-11, neil h <neil_h...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> You can buy pre-paid visa vouchers for buying stuff on-line without a
>>> credit card. I don't know if you get the same payment protection, but
>>> it's not a bad idea if you don't have (or want) a credit card.
>>>
>>> https://www.3v.ie/
>> Oh, now that *is* interesting. Thanks for that!
>>
>> https://www.3vcash.com/ appears to be the UK site.
>
> Oh, wait. ukp3.50 per voucher? They can Fuck. Right. Off.
Ah. Not much good for micro transactions then. I suppose it's aimed more
at large one off purchases, as it's probably not economically viable for
lots of small ones. Having said that, can't you buy a big voucher and
then use it up in chunks?
deKay
20:11:03 GMT, sefini jorgo geanyet des mani yeof do uk.games.video.misc,
yawatina tan reek esk Chris Whitworth <usenet...@parm.net> fornis do
marikano es bono tan el:
>1) This is the least surprising post to ugvm, ever
>2) Some people /choose/ to not have credit cards, because it means they can't
>get themselves into easy-but-high-interest debt. I dearly, dearly wish all the
>online stores like XBox Live et al would take Maestro, because I hate having
>to make small purchases on my CC - I know it'll just accumulate and I'll never
>really get round to paying it off.
I always pay off everything on my card as soon as the item I've bought
arrives, or I get home with it.
deKay
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Gaming Diary: www.lofi-gaming.org.uk/diary/
My computer runs at 3.5MHz and I'm proud of that
"It's like a cross between Katamari Damacy and that bit in
Star Trek IV where they launch around the sun. Or something."
Alastair Foster
ZELDA (Wii Wii):
Played over 20 hours now. Just finished dungeon 4 and am starting to do
some side-quests. I can tell you now anyone that thinks the sword
fighting would be better with direct arm movements clearly hasnt played
it enough. When you are surrounded by enemies of differing heights
beating the crap out of you, or a screen filling boss you dont want to
have to figure out what type of arm movement will allow you to hit it.
"Oops! That horizontal swing bounced off his shield. Oops! Now that
vertical swing hit his shield again! Maybe if i swing to a few degrees
to the right with enough force!" etc etc. You get the general idea. The
way it is now you can play it with as much effort as you wish. Sure if
you want you can swing your arms around pretending to sword fight or
you can lie in bed like i do flicking your girly wrists =)
WANT:
RGB SCART CABLE (Wii Wii)
(SEE BIN)
BIN:
MY SAMSUNG HDTV doesnt seem to like my acebest component cables for my
Wii (muwahahhaa) doesnt like VC games that are low resolution for some
reason. Mario 64 works fine. DKC gives the telly an error message.
Composite works fine and it looks sufficiently retro. But i am hoping
for some RGB Scart cables to turn up so hopefully i have acebest VC
looking games =)
Paul Tomlin
says...
> PLAY
Elite Beat Agents (DS) - I'm up to Jumping Jack Flash on Hard now.
Pretty good given I've still not managed to do Ready Steady Go on
Ouendans Normal mode ^^;
Final Fantasy XII (PS2) - Still chugging along slowly. Still really
large and time consuming. 'tis great, though.
Magical Starsign (DS) - Played for about an hour. Really underwhelming.
Wii Sports (Wii) - Great fun, as long as you don't accidently punch any
walls whilst playing tennis ^^ I don't really like the golf game, mainly
because of that silly limit on swinging too hard, but the other games
are a lot of fun.
Zelda (Wii) - Only clocked in about five or six hours overall. It's
great, but I kind of feel I'd be better off going back to FFXII until I
get some component loving.
F-Zero (Wii) - I still love this game.
Mario 64 (Wii) - Just played long enough to get the first three or four
stars. Much prefer this to Mario Sunshine.
My-ZHiME (PS2) - Well, the posters are kind of nice ^^;
> WANT
Blue Dragon (360) - My Japanese copy is being held up by another game at
the moment.
Onechanbara VorteX (360) - Bikini-hat-sword-zombie-slaying action! Japan
release this week, methinks. Shame D3 have ramped it up to full price,
though.
Earth Defense Force 3 (360)
Yggdra Union (GBA) - SRPG from those behind Riveria. It's managed a
complete stealth release in the US - I hadn't realised it was being
released until I read it on Insert Credit yesterday.
That new Gundam SEED game (PS2) - It's been a while since I've played a
Gundam game, and this one got pretty good reviews in Japan, so figured I
may as well take a look.
iMAS (360) - Next month! Wooo!
Link to the Past (Wii) - Still my favorite Zelda game. Hopefully Ninty
will hurry up with this one.
Component Cables (Wii) - or RGB cables. Or anything better than
Composite.
> Gunstar Heroes (WII) - Being added to the virtual console this Friday,
> according to a list I saw of upcoming releases. Don't know how accurate
> it was, but I live in hope. Castlevania IV was shown as coming before
> the end of the month, too.
Castlevania IV wasn't really that great, though. It has it's moments,
but it's really slow to get started - the first three or four levels are
long and tedious.
> BIN
Wii composite cables (or lack of component ones) - Honestly, I have
trouble playing anything like Zelda for more than an hour or two
straight thanks to the lack of good cabling. Sure, the composite output
is better than I might have expected, but its still far from what I'd
like.
International Shipping Times - XMas is playing havoc with my DVD orders,
resulting in, like, a dozen or so disks landing over Wii weekend, with
more due any day now. If they'd arrived in usual prompt fashion rather
than in an order completely devoid of relation to shipping date I'd
might actually have had time to watch them.
[ste parker]
Exactly. I really don't get the "I'll forget to pay it off" angle, the
only problem is if you do have a spending problem meaning you can't
afford to pay it off in full each month.
--
[ste]
My current ebay shenanigans (phones, games, PC parts):
http://tinyurl.com/6o5uu
[ste parker]
> In article <4u4ne2F...@mid.individual.net>, the_rev_y...@hotmail.com
> says...
>
>> PLAY
>
> Elite Beat Agents (DS) - I'm up to Jumping Jack Flash on Hard now.
> Pretty good given I've still not managed to do Ready Steady Go on
> Ouendans Normal mode ^^;
>
I reckon that Ouendan is easier in that keeping up with what you're
doing isn't as difficult as it can be in EBA, but in Ouendan making any
sort of mistake is utterly punishing to your life meter, whereas in EBA
I find you can often manage to get to the end of a song even with some
fairly huge mistakes.
Rach
> On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 16:02:07 +0000, Rach <ra...@thisisntmyaddress.com>
> wrote:
>
>> deKay wrote:
>>
>>> My credit card.
>>> Between the Wii, the Wii games, the VC games, the pile of DS games, some 360
>>> games and, oh yeah, Christmas, I think my card might be broken.
>> Give it to me, I'm sure I'll manage to get it working again :)
>>
>> Damn to not having a credit card! I wish they accepted other cards!
>
> Any reason you can't get one? I mean even I have a credit card, and I
> don't have a job!
I've had a credit card in the past and they are bad, bad, bad!
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Rach
That looks very nice...thanks :)
Rach
> Why is a mushroom called mushroom? As usual, The Rev
> <the_rev_y...@hotmail.com> got it all completely wrong and
> wrote:
>
>> Nils Tanner wrote:
>>> Wii codes. To share some Miis.
>> I added you on Friday, but last I checked you'd not added me back.
>
> Did you post your number in here? Didn't see it, maybe I'm missing
> some posts. ALthough I have to say, if you posted your number in UGVN,
> I was to stupid to add that group to my newsreader, so I'm entirely to
> blame...that is, I blame someone else! Yes!
You've not added me either :(
Rach
> Nils Tanner wrote:
>> Why is a mushroom called mushroom? As usual, The Rev
>> <the_rev_y...@hotmail.com> got it all completely wrong and
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Wii games, obviously. It's just great, if you ask me. We played some
>> Wii Sports, Play, Red Steel and Zelda. Whilst Red Steel is a bit hit
>> and miss sometimes (but quite ok for a launch title), I didn't really
>> play Zelda, as my girlfriend hogged some 10 odd hours on it. So it
>> seems to be good.
>>
>> Wii Play didn't get that much attention, but Sports did. Her father
>> visited us this weekend, and he's not really a gamer at all. He picked
>> up the Wiimote, started playing Wii sports, and we more or less had to
>> drag him off the console a few hours later. Nintendo certainly did
>> something right if they want to attract new customers, i.e. non-gamers
>> :-)
>>
>> Phoenix Wright. Last case, by now. I suspect there's still quite a way
>> to go, but OTOH I'm on the last day now (at least I expect it to be
>> the last day). Great fun indeed!
>>
>> WANT:
>>
>> Wii codes. To share some Miis.
>>
> so I sent him a George Michael back!
I found hitler very amusing, I just created the legend that is Steve
Irwin and Tony Blair, they arent they best as I did them for memory :(
Rach
> Touch Detective (DS) - I've mostly been playing this all weekend. It's a
> totally traditional point and click adventure, but with a nicely odd
> setting and amusing dialogue. About the nearest thing I could compare it
> to is Grim Fandango, but it's not really that similar. I'm about half way
> through the fourth case (out of five).
How is that? I was going to buy it but I heard it wasnt very good at all!
Sir Chewbury Gubbins
Not my Wii - I've only had a 30 minutes go of Zelda so far, but the kids
have been on it a LOT. Moved into our own place the day the Wii
launched, so we've been cleaning and unpacking and..... dealing with
absolutely crippling homesickness ever since. I'm very down at the
moment, but I'm sure I'll be back to my GAMES MASTORing very soon.
WANT
I'd like to have the motivation to play Zelda. What I'd like more than
anything is a job. The market in the Upper Hunter is absolutely dead at
the moment and I'm beginning to shit myself.
BIN
Homesickness. It's shit :( I even miss the fecking chavs.
Choobs
--
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Knight of the Wholly Gnarly Widget
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Abu the monkey was never naughty.
Shak
"Chris Whitworth" <usenet...@parm.net> wrote in message
news:slrnenrfrc.uq...@parm.vs.topper.me.uk...
> On 2006-12-11, neil h <neil_h...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Chris Whitworth wrote:
>>> On 2006-12-11, Lister <fa...@SPAMclara.net> wrote:
>>>>> Damn to not having a credit card! I wish they accepted other cards!
>>>> Any reason you can't get one? I mean even I have a credit card, and I
>>>> don't have a job!
>>>
>>> 1) This is the least surprising post to ugvm, ever
>>> 2) Some people /choose/ to not have credit cards, because it means they
>>> can't
>>> get themselves into easy-but-high-interest debt. I dearly, dearly wish
>>> all the
>>> online stores like XBox Live et al would take Maestro, because I hate
>>> having
>>> to make small purchases on my CC - I know it'll just accumulate and I'll
>>> never
>>> really get round to paying it off.
>>
>> You can buy pre-paid visa vouchers for buying stuff on-line without a
>> credit card. I don't know if you get the same payment protection, but
>> it's not a bad idea if you don't have (or want) a credit card.
>>
>> https://www.3v.ie/
>
> Oh, now that *is* interesting. Thanks for that!
>
> https://www.3vcash.com/ appears to be the UK site.
>
You really think so? Pay in advance, possibly no credit protection and then
£3.50 for the honour?
A credit card with a low limit and a bit of will is a much better idea,
surely?
Shak
Shak
> On 2006-12-11, Lister <fa...@SPAMclara.net> wrote:
>>>Damn to not having a credit card! I wish they accepted other cards!
>>
>> Any reason you can't get one? I mean even I have a credit card, and I
>> don't have a job!
>
> 1) This is the least surprising post to ugvm, ever
> 2) Some people /choose/ to not have credit cards, because it means they
> can't
> get themselves into easy-but-high-interest debt. I dearly, dearly wish all
> the
> online stores like XBox Live et al would take Maestro, because I hate
> having
> to make small purchases on my CC - I know it'll just accumulate and I'll
> never
> really get round to paying it off.
>
Why not set your CC to take the whole amount from your current account via
direct debit each month?
Shak
The Rev
>
> I found hitler very amusing, I just created the legend that is Steve
> Irwin and Tony Blair, they arent they best as I did them for memory :(
I've had two different Hitlers turn up so far. He seems popular.
--
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http://www.inverty.com
Chris Whitworth
Because, thanks to some exuberant spending during my student days, I still
have enough credit card debt that that would empty my bank account in the
first month.
[ste parker]
>
> I've had a credit card in the past and they are bad, bad, bad!
>
Only if the people that use them are idiots. It's not hard to make money
off of credit cards, and even less difficult to never pay any interest,
ever.
[ste parker]
>
> BIN
> Homesickness. It's shit :( I even miss the fecking chavs.
>
When's the homecoming party? Isn't there an Oz version of a chav you
could ask to "look after" your car when out shopping or anything?
--
[ste]
Zomoniac
<j...@SPAM-ME-NOT.nelefa.org> said:
> PLAY
> Not my Wii - I've only had a 30 minutes go of Zelda so far, but the
> kids have been on it a LOT. Moved into our own place the day the Wii
> launched, so we've been cleaning and unpacking and..... dealing with
> absolutely crippling homesickness ever since. I'm very down at the
> moment, but I'm sure I'll be back to my GAMES MASTORing very soon.
>
> WANT
> I'd like to have the motivation to play Zelda. What I'd like more than
> anything is a job. The market in the Upper Hunter is absolutely dead at
> the moment and I'm beginning to shit myself.
>
> BIN
> Homesickness. It's shit :( I even miss the fecking chavs.
>
> Choobs
If you need me to come over there and torment and intimidate you and
steal your belongings then I'd be happy to do so. I'll pay for the
Burberry if you pay for the flight.
--
Zo
For Sale: FIFA World Cup 2006 - £15, Fight Night Round 3 - £20,
Football Manager 2006 - £14, MotoGP 06 - £20 (all 360, all prices
included 1st class recorded delivery)
DBSnappa
> PLAY
> Not my Wii - I've only had a 30 minutes go of Zelda so far, but the kids
> have been on it a LOT. Moved into our own place the day the Wii
> launched, so we've been cleaning and unpacking and..... dealing with
> absolutely crippling homesickness ever since. I'm very down at the
> moment, but I'm sure I'll be back to my GAMES MASTORing very soon.
>
> WANT
> I'd like to have the motivation to play Zelda. What I'd like more than
> anything is a job. The market in the Upper Hunter is absolutely dead at
> the moment and I'm beginning to shit myself.
There's an important job going in Hyrule ;-)
>
> BIN
> Homesickness. It's shit :( I even miss the fecking chavs.
>
I'm sure you'll get over it. I suspect it's more to do with all the free
time you have at the moment, and I'm sure you'll find gainful employment
soon as well. Good luck bud, keep your chin up.
Gunther Gloop
> PLAY
> Not my Wii - I've only had a 30 minutes go of Zelda so far, but the
> kids have been on it a LOT. Moved into our own place the day the Wii
> launched, so we've been cleaning and unpacking and..... dealing with
> absolutely crippling homesickness ever since. I'm very down at the
> moment, but I'm sure I'll be back to my GAMES MASTORing very soon.
>
> WANT
> I'd like to have the motivation to play Zelda. What I'd like more than
> anything is a job. The market in the Upper Hunter is absolutely dead
> at the moment and I'm beginning to shit myself.
>
> BIN
> Homesickness. It's shit :( I even miss the fecking chavs.
>
I feel your pain (oo-er!)
Besides being away from home, it's hard to enjoy spare time when there is no
end in sight to it.
I bet you'll find a job (eventually), settle down, *then* be unhappy because
you wasted all that free time you had!
Happens to me all the time ...and I don't even have to go to Australia to do
it.
Good luck -and stick with it!
-Kevin.
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"Shak" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> "[ste parker]" <imag...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4u4u90F...@mid.individual.net...
>> The Rev wrote:>>>> The Rev <the_rev_y...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (WII) -
>>> >> (Though I had to leave the second dungeon with
>>>>> two chests unclaimed. No idea how to get to them.)
>>>>
>>>> Isn't it a cardinal rule of action-RPG titles that every dungeon has
>>>> treasure you can't get to until you've acquired power-up items from
>>>> much later in the game?
>>>
>>> Not Zelda, I don't think, though maybe in this case. I managed to get
>>> everything in the first dungeon okay.
>>>
>>
>> Another thing with Zelda was I thought you always needed just about
>> everything from every chest (keys and whatnot), or at least you passed
>> through the dungeon in such a way as you had to hit every room. I was
>> surprised in OoT last night to get through the Shadow Temple whilst
>> missing one side room out that had a couple of chests in.
>>
>
> You don't HAVE to. The only things you really need are the keys and
> special items. You wouldn't need the maps or compasses, or chests with
> just Rupees in them for example.
>
> Still, when playing the first time, you generally automatically pick them
> all up. I think it's due to the genius design, and not having to "go back"
> is one reason I love Zelda games.
Not having to sure, but there were still things you could get if you did -
eg. more skulltulas.
Mm, OoT.
I'm tempted to get it out again...
--
Sue
James Sutherland
news:457e42bf$0$3574$b9f6...@news.newsdemon.com:
> James Sutherland wrote:
>
>> Touch Detective (DS) - I've mostly been playing this all weekend.
>> It's a totally traditional point and click adventure, but with a
>> nicely odd setting and amusing dialogue. About the nearest thing I
>> could compare it to is Grim Fandango, but it's not really that
>> similar. I'm about half way through the fourth case (out of five).
>
> How is that? I was going to buy it but I heard it wasnt very good at
> all!
It's pretty good. I mean, it's not a must-have game or anything, but if you
like adventures it's a solid, fun title. I like it more than, say, Another
Code but it's not up there with better Lucasarts stuff.
The Nintendojo review sums it up fairly well:
http://www.nintendojo.com/reviews/NDS/view_item.php?1161837458
Russell Marks
> PLAY
SSX Tricky (PS2) - finished the races. I was probably a bit harsh on
this, it's not as good as SSX3 and getting "Tricky" is too awkward but
it does have some good tracks. Then again, I can't exactly say I'm
desperate to replay it.
GTA:SA (PS2) - spent rather too long jumping off the tallest building
in LS and smacking into buildings trying to improve my
insane-jump-rotation record. Eventually I tried it on a bicycle and
got 3096 degrees. :-)
Tetris (GB) - probably the best version, and Tetris is still vaguely
addictive in a bland, mind-numbing sort of way even 17 years (ouch)
after I first played the speccy version.
R/C Stunt Copter (PS1) - briefly checked if I could get anywhere on
any difficulty higher than Rookie... not a chance.
> WANT
Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz (Wii), despite it having even heavier
blurring-in-the-distance than Mario Sunshine if screenshots are
anything to go by. But this'll have to wait until I get a Wii, which
(knowing me) isn't likely for a year or two.
Burnout Dominator (PS2), if the press release isn't lying when it
suggests that we're finally going to get a racer again rather than a
car-based beat-em-up.
Lumines Plus (PS2). Maybe. I'm not too sure about Lumines really, but
I suppose as a puzzle-game nut I'd have to try it eventually. :-)
> BIN
Buying games I know I probably won't like, just because they're cheap.
I wish I didn't do this so often, it means I end up getting stuff
like...
Virtua Fighter 4 (PS2) - Signs That Your Fighting Game May Be
Overcomplicated no. 229: You have a tutorial exercise called "Using
evading throw escape-guard". Ugh. Sure, let's have counter reverse
throw backwards low inverted striking high anti-escape dodge, why not?
*Now* I remember why I always hated Virtua Fighter, it's like playing
twelve-dimensional chess while being poked in the ribs.
Super Gameboy (SNES) - another silly thing to buy. I don't think it
had occurred to me just *how* distorted the GB picture would look with
the wide pixels the SNES has, exaggerated even further by the squashed
PAL picture; the GB window is at least 40% too wide. I think I'll just
stick to the GBC or emulation.
Donkey Kong (GB) - having played through it already a few years ago,
it wasn't such a great idea getting this. It's a decent enough
platformy puzzler but really quite dull, and I know it gets stupidly
annoying towards the end.
Need For Speed 3: Hot Pursuit (PS1) - I wasn't expecting much from
this, but frankly it's a bit rubbish and way too hard. This actually
puts me off trying the less-prehistoric Hot Pursuit 2, is that one
still worth a shot?
Everybody's Golf 2 (PS1) - in theory it's not bad, but it gets too
hard too quickly and has a particularly cheap and frustrating way of
doing the progression (win three tournaments out of four, replay them
all if you fail) which means that you end up replaying the same
tournaments over and over again. Even for the very first lot I had to
play them all twice.
Yaroze "Adventure Game" (PS1) - this did indeed work once I unearthed
my actual PS1. The camera is terrible but it hardly matters, as the
author chose to make the game too tedious to bother with by including
rubbish combat which kills you in seconds, and no continues of any
kind. Which does at least mean that I only wasted 20 minutes on this,
so you have to give him credit for that. :-)
-Rus.
Lister
wrote:
>Lister wrote:
>> On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 16:02:07 +0000, Rach <ra...@thisisntmyaddress.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> deKay wrote:
>>>
>>>> My credit card.
>>>> Between the Wii, the Wii games, the VC games, the pile of DS games, some 360
>>>> games and, oh yeah, Christmas, I think my card might be broken.
>>> Give it to me, I'm sure I'll manage to get it working again :)
>>>
>>> Damn to not having a credit card! I wish they accepted other cards!
>>
>> Any reason you can't get one? I mean even I have a credit card, and I
>> don't have a job!
>
>I've had a credit card in the past and they are bad, bad, bad!
Yes, but you're a woman :)
I've never heard a man say that
--
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Where the pretty brezes blow
We're climbing up the sunshine mountains
Faces all a-glow
Kendrick Kerwin Chua
Russell Marks <russell.marks@spam^H^H^H^Hntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>> BIN
>
>Virtua Fighter 4 (PS2) - Signs That Your Fighting Game May Be
>Overcomplicated no. 229: You have a tutorial exercise called "Using
>evading throw escape-guard". Ugh. Sure, let's have counter reverse
>throw backwards low inverted striking high anti-escape dodge, why not?
>*Now* I remember why I always hated Virtua Fighter, it's like playing
>twelve-dimensional chess while being poked in the ribs.
But... but... it's Virtua Fighter! It's the game franchise upon which all
other 3D fighters are derived! Never mind that one page on GameFAQs
advises that you keep a millisecond clock running there next to the arcade
screen so you can time button presses correctly. :) Think of it this way;
the opposite extreme is Street Fighter EX, which has no precision at all.
>Yaroze "Adventure Game" (PS1) - this did indeed work once I unearthed
>my actual PS1. The camera is terrible but it hardly matters, as the
>author chose to make the game too tedious to bother with by including
>rubbish combat which kills you in seconds, and no continues of any
>kind. Which does at least mean that I only wasted 20 minutes on this,
>so you have to give him credit for that. :-)
Sounds a wee bit like Akalabeth. :) Sometimes I pop in a rogue-like RPG or
other old-school PC game just to remind me how far we've come. Some of
these games are timeless, like the old Telengard crawler or the action-
packed Hillsfar. Others, like the the original Ultima and Bard's Tale,
don't stand up quite as well. I imagine this Yaroze game must have been
inspired by games of the latter category.
-KKC, who should use that old Pentium 66 laptop for DOS games.
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The Rev
>
> Castlevania Portrait of Ruin (DS) - Well, I've watched the intro, anyway.
> Dawn of Sorrow is probably my favourite DS game, so I have high hopes for
> this one.
I played this last night. Not at all sure about the dual-character stuff
yet. Hopefully it'll feel more natural later on, but now it just feels
clunky and a bit confusing.
Sir Chewbury Gubbins
> I'm sure you'll get over it. I suspect it's more to do with all the free
> time you have at the moment, and I'm sure you'll find gainful employment
> soon as well. Good luck bud, keep your chin up.
Thanks to all - I am now much better and had a cracking time with Raving
Rabbids tonight. It's the funniest game EVAR.
I managed to cheer myself up no end by reading news.bbc.co.uk for half
an hour. Bloody hell - what a depressing time of it. The hardest
decision I've had to make this week is whether to set the air
conditioning to 22 or 23 to counter the 38 degrees outside ;-)
Stewart Smith
> DBSnappa wrote:
>> I'm sure you'll get over it. I suspect it's more to do with all the
>> free time you have at the moment, and I'm sure you'll find gainful
>> employment soon as well. Good luck bud, keep your chin up.
>
> Thanks to all - I am now much better and had a cracking time with Raving
> Rabbids tonight. It's the funniest game EVAR.
>
> I managed to cheer myself up no end by reading news.bbc.co.uk for half
> an hour. Bloody hell - what a depressing time of it. The hardest
> decision I've had to make this week is whether to set the air
> conditioning to 22 or 23 to counter the 38 degrees outside ;-)
>
Would it cheer you up more to learn that the weather in Edinburgh today
is absolutely minging. Horizontal rain is whistling past the window and
the thought of having to go back out into that to get home is very
unattractive.
Stewart
Nils Tanner
<ra...@thisisntmyaddress.com> got it all completely wrong and wrote:
>Nils Tanner wrote:
>> Why is a mushroom called mushroom? As usual, The Rev
>> <the_rev_y...@hotmail.com> got it all completely wrong and
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Nils Tanner wrote:
>>>> Wii codes. To share some Miis.
>>> I added you on Friday, but last I checked you'd not added me back.
>>
>> Did you post your number in here? Didn't see it, maybe I'm missing
>> some posts. ALthough I have to say, if you posted your number in UGVN,
>> I was to stupid to add that group to my newsreader, so I'm entirely to
>> blame...that is, I blame someone else! Yes!
>
>You've not added me either :(
I did by now, didn't I?
Rach
> Why is a mushroom called mushroom? As usual, Rach
> <ra...@thisisntmyaddress.com> got it all completely wrong and wrote:
>
>> Nils Tanner wrote:
>>> Why is a mushroom called mushroom? As usual, The Rev
>>> <the_rev_y...@hotmail.com> got it all completely wrong and
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nils Tanner wrote:
>>>>> Wii codes. To share some Miis.
>>>> I added you on Friday, but last I checked you'd not added me back.
>>> Did you post your number in here? Didn't see it, maybe I'm missing
>>> some posts. ALthough I have to say, if you posted your number in UGVN,
>>> I was to stupid to add that group to my newsreader, so I'm entirely to
>>> blame...that is, I blame someone else! Yes!
>> You've not added me either :(
>
> I did by now, didn't I?
Not sure today, I'll have to have a look.
Nils Tanner
<ra...@thisisntmyaddress.com> got it all completely wrong and wrote:
>>>>> Nils Tanner wrote:
>>>>>> Wii codes. To share some Miis.
>>>>> I added you on Friday, but last I checked you'd not added me back.
>>>> Did you post your number in here? Didn't see it, maybe I'm missing
>>>> some posts. ALthough I have to say, if you posted your number in UGVN,
>>>> I was to stupid to add that group to my newsreader, so I'm entirely to
>>>> blame...that is, I blame someone else! Yes!
>>> You've not added me either :(
>>
>> I did by now, didn't I?
>
>Not sure today, I'll have to have a look.
I'm sure. I just checked and you're in there :-)
Rach
Ahh good :)
Paul Tomlin
says...
> > WANT
>
> Blue Dragon (360) - My Japanese copy is being held up by another game at
> the moment.
Okay, so it turns out that it had, in fact, shipped and NCSX hadn't
updated their order history. I'll have to see if I can drag myself away
from Zelda for an hour or in order to take a look at it.
Sir Chewbury Gubbins
Nope - that's one of the things I'm missing :) My main trouble with Oz
at the moment is the area I'm in, I think - real honest to god cowboys,
rodeos, and too much country music. Also, everything is so bloody
temporary looking.
Kendrick Kerwin Chua
Sir Chewbury Gubbins <j...@SPAM-ME-NOT.nelefa.org> wrote:
>
My main trouble with Oz
>at the moment is the area I'm in, I think - real honest to god cowboys,
>rodeos, and too much country music. Also, everything is so bloody
>temporary looking.
Are you sure you didn't accidentally buy property in the middle of an
American movie set? Sounds like you stumbled into the next George Clooney
period piece. :)
-KKC, resisting the urge to shop needlessly for himself.