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Chris Whitworth

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Feb 2, 2007, 5:12:14 AM2/2/07
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The Canadian girl in our office says it's groundhog day, so, uh, happy
groundhog day!

Anyway, this weekend, I'll be playing:

WoW - I really want to get to level 58. I broke 57 last night, but I seem to
have run out of quests that don't involve instances, and the rest of my guild
are all on the outworld. I'm loathe to pug something like Strat, but I may
have to to get the XP :-/

Hotel Dusk - Best. Game. Ever.

Lost Planet - Shooting stuff is still fun.

Viva Pinata - Haven't played this in ages. I should.

Crackdown Demo - I downloaded this ages ago but never got round to playing
it.

Chris
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Nils Tanner

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Feb 2, 2007, 5:23:49 AM2/2/07
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Why is a mushroom called mushroom? As usual, Chris Whitworth

<usenet...@parm.net> got it all completely wrong and wrote:

>The Canadian girl in our office says it's groundhog day, so, uh, happy
>groundhog day!
>

Every day is groundhog day!

Or not. So to celebrate that, I'll play:

Twilight Princess (Wii). I'm in front of the boss door in the Shadow
dungeon. And I didn't pick up the master key. I know where it is
though... So I might just go back, get the key, finish the dungeon and
then the rest of the game in one setting! Hooray!

Wii Sports. I just feel like it at the moment, so I might give it a go
on my own...

Some PS2 game. I really should use my PS2 again for once.
Unfortunately, I can't decide whether I should restart Ico, start
Shadow of the Colossus or play something completely different. And the
end of the weekend, I'll probably haven't played anything on my PS2.
*sigh*

Stewart Smith

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Feb 2, 2007, 5:32:26 AM2/2/07
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Twilight Princess (Wii) Just at the start of the Goron Mines. Found the
whole Warg rider rip-off scene a bit of a pain but pleased to have
finished it. Looks like the mines are going to involve me falling in
the lava quite a lot...

Wii Sports, haven't played for a couple of days so I'll probably be up
in the 40s with the fitness test.

Stewart

deKay

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Feb 2, 2007, 5:33:26 AM2/2/07
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marikano es bono tan el:

>Anyway, this weekend, I'll be playing:

CASTLEVANIA. IT IS THE BEST THING EVER. EVER.

I'm tempted to dig out my NES to play the NES games. Or, I could just play
Akumajou Dracula on my GBA.

Also:

Contact (DS):
I WILL play it some more. I must.

Viva Pinata (360):
I'll have a bit of a play.

Tony Hawk's Project 8 (360):
I doubt I'll be able to beat any goals, but you never know. Wish I could get
to the one in the Slums.

deKay
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Sir Chewbury Gubbins

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Feb 2, 2007, 5:45:22 AM2/2/07
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On 2007-02-02, Great Cthulhu rose from the deep and compelled Chris Whitworth to exclaim:

> The Canadian girl in our office says it's groundhog day, so, uh, happy
> groundhog day!
>
> Anyway, this weekend, I'll be playing:

I'll be playing: Children of Mana on the train home. Over the weekend,
I'll likely be playing many different castlevania games (I have HoD and
DoS on the go at the same time just now) and probably a bit of Zelda.
I'll also be playing around with Fedora Core 6 cos I've just got round
to upgrading.

I will NOT, however, be playing WoW.

Choobs

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Abu the monkey was never naughty.

Sir Chewbury Gubbins

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Feb 2, 2007, 5:46:41 AM2/2/07
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On 2007-02-02, Great Cthulhu rose from the deep and compelled Stewart Smith to exclaim:

> Twilight Princess (Wii) Just at the start of the Goron Mines. Found the
> whole Warg rider rip-off scene a bit of a pain but pleased to have
> finished it. Looks like the mines are going to involve me falling in
> the lava quite a lot...

You're at exactly the same point as me, except I thought the "warg rider
rip off scene" was one of the most exciting and dramatic moments in my
gaming life.

Just goes to show, you can't please everyone :-D

Zomoniac

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Feb 2, 2007, 5:56:37 AM2/2/07
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Well I know what I won't be playing, since I finished PW:JFA last
night. Can't decide if it was better than the first or not. The fourth
case took me around nine hours and had more twists than anything ever.
Aces. I love Phoenix, almost as much as I love Mia and her ginormous
breasts that make the DOA girls look modest.

So I shall play:

Test Drive Unlimited (360) - Not played in many months, played about 5
hours in the last two days, it's now frustrating because all the
challenges I have left are hard and require cars I don't have, and the
hitchhiker missions are doing my head in. Plus After 25+ hours of total
play I'm still only a third of the way to the 5k achievement. But I've
just discovered how useful the handbrake can be when applied with care.

Lost Planet (360) - I don't like bosses in games. They annoy me.

Need For Speed: Most Wanted (360) - Makes a little Clio feel like that
"thing" that Richard Hammond put into a ditch.

Elite Beat Agents (DS) - Maybe. I'll play for a few minutes, remember
that my slightly broken and misaligned DS makes the slidey bits
impossible, then scream and turn it off.

Mario & Luigi: PIT (DS) - Because my MWC says so.

F.E.A.R. (360) - As above.

And if I'm feeling masochistic I might start GeOW on Insane.

--
Zo

Chris Whitworth

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Feb 2, 2007, 6:03:58 AM2/2/07
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On 2007-02-02, Zomoniac <the_pro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Lost Planet (360) - I don't like bosses in games. They annoy me.

Let me guess, you're on mission 3 or 4?

DBSnappa

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Feb 2, 2007, 6:05:25 AM2/2/07
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Zomoniac wrote:
>
> And if I'm feeling masochistic I might start GeOW on Insane.

It's actually better in Insane as the AI is generally better for all the
NPCs and it isn't actually as much of a leap in difficulty as you would
imagine.
>

Zomoniac

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Feb 2, 2007, 6:06:10 AM2/2/07
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On 2007-02-02 11:03:58 +0000, Chris Whitworth <usenet...@parm.net> said:

> On 2007-02-02, Zomoniac <the_pro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Lost Planet (360) - I don't like bosses in games. They annoy me.
>
> Let me guess, you're on mission 3 or 4?
>
> Chris

Just finished 4. Didn't find either of them especially hard, I just
don't like bosses in any game ever.

God Of War excepted.

--
Zo

RichGK

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Feb 2, 2007, 6:06:46 AM2/2/07
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PWD - Planned Weekend Decorating

Do the hall and landing then we are finished ha haar!

PWG

I have now discovered the joy that is Gears of War. I'm loving this
game and can't see me doing much else for a while. I even think that
it isn't as gung ho as people made out, ok the models are a bit
extreme but it's all bloody (literally) goodness.

Zomoniac

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Feb 2, 2007, 6:07:54 AM2/2/07
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On 2007-02-02 11:05:25 +0000, DBSnappa
<davidjREMOV...@hotmail.com> said:

Thank god for that. I would've enjoyed the game much more were it not
for Dom being a complete pillock. In the last boss, which took me a
good 20+ attempts, as soon as the cut-scene was over he would run
straight at RAAM, and be down somewhere in the middle of the level that
I couldn't safely get to within about 5 seconds.

--
Zo

Stewart Smith

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Feb 2, 2007, 6:09:50 AM2/2/07
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Sir Chewbury Gubbins wrote:
> On 2007-02-02, Great Cthulhu rose from the deep and compelled Stewart Smith to exclaim:
>> Twilight Princess (Wii) Just at the start of the Goron Mines. Found the
>> whole Warg rider rip-off scene a bit of a pain but pleased to have
>> finished it. Looks like the mines are going to involve me falling in
>> the lava quite a lot...
>
> You're at exactly the same point as me, except I thought the "warg rider
> rip off scene" was one of the most exciting and dramatic moments in my
> gaming life.
>

Don't get me wrong, my heart was pounding after it and I loved the set
piece at the end, and the intro in Kakariko village. I was just the
chasing around I found a bit tiring. Still I shouldn't complain, I did
it without dying, well except for falling off the bridge doing the joust
for the first time. Skinned the fat get the second time round.

Stewart

Chris Whitworth

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Feb 2, 2007, 6:12:40 AM2/2/07
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On 2007-02-02, Zomoniac <the_pro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 2007-02-02 11:03:58 +0000, Chris Whitworth <usenet...@parm.net> said:
>
>> On 2007-02-02, Zomoniac <the_pro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Lost Planet (360) - I don't like bosses in games. They annoy me.
>>
>> Let me guess, you're on mission 3 or 4?
>>
>> Chris
>
> Just finished 4. Didn't find either of them especially hard, I just
> don't like bosses in any game ever.

The mission 3 and 4 boss fights are particular unfair. Mission 5, though, I
thought was excellent. I quite like boss fights, though, so long as they're
well balanced.

Zomoniac

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Feb 2, 2007, 6:15:28 AM2/2/07
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On 2007-02-02 11:12:40 +0000, Chris Whitworth <usenet...@parm.net> said:

> On 2007-02-02, Zomoniac <the_pro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2007-02-02 11:03:58 +0000, Chris Whitworth <usenet...@parm.net> said:
>>
>>> On 2007-02-02, Zomoniac <the_pro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Lost Planet (360) - I don't like bosses in games. They annoy me.
>>>
>>> Let me guess, you're on mission 3 or 4?
>>>
>>> Chris
>>
>> Just finished 4. Didn't find either of them especially hard, I just
>> don't like bosses in any game ever.
>
> The mission 3 and 4 boss fights are particular unfair. Mission 5, though, I
> thought was excellent. I quite like boss fights, though, so long as they're
> well balanced.
>
> Chris

I did mission 3 first go, but it took me a few restarts to do that
fecking wasp. I especially hate boss fights where you have to ATTACK
THEIR WEAK SPOT FOR MASSIVE DAMAGE. The mission 3 one was ok as just
hitting it anywhere did the same amount of damage. I hated that worm,
hitting tiny little dots that were constantly moving with a rocket
launcher that took an hour to reload after each shot. The wasp was
annoying but not as much as the worm.

--
Zo

Chris Whitworth

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Feb 2, 2007, 6:17:14 AM2/2/07
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You do know you didn't have to kill the worm, right? You can just outrun it.

DBSnappa

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Feb 2, 2007, 6:18:15 AM2/2/07
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Well, I haven't got that far yet - I'm at the beginning of chapter 4, I
think, but I got distracted by playing coop with DrG (now he's finally
got a live account set up). The save system is silly, however, but
playing Coop is fantastic.

DBSnappa

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Feb 2, 2007, 6:19:50 AM2/2/07
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RichGK wrote:
> PWD - Planned Weekend Decorating
>
> Do the hall and landing then we are finished ha haar!

Provided you're not repapering, it should be do-able in a weekend. If
you are, it'll take about fifteen weekends!


>
> PWG
>
> I have now discovered the joy that is Gears of War. I'm loving this
> game and can't see me doing much else for a while. I even think that
> it isn't as gung ho as people made out, ok the models are a bit
> extreme but it's all bloody (literally) goodness.
>

It gets better with experience, this game.

Zomoniac

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Feb 2, 2007, 6:19:49 AM2/2/07
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On 2007-02-02 11:17:14 +0000, Chris Whitworth <usenet...@parm.net> said:

> On 2007-02-02, Zomoniac <the_pro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2007-02-02 11:12:40 +0000, Chris Whitworth <usenet...@parm.net> said:
>>
>>> On 2007-02-02, Zomoniac <the_pro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2007-02-02 11:03:58 +0000, Chris Whitworth <usenet...@parm.net> said:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2007-02-02, Zomoniac <the_pro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Lost Planet (360) - I don't like bosses in games. They annoy me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me guess, you're on mission 3 or 4?
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> Just finished 4. Didn't find either of them especially hard, I just
>>>> don't like bosses in any game ever.
>>>
>>> The mission 3 and 4 boss fights are particular unfair. Mission 5, though, I
>>> thought was excellent. I quite like boss fights, though, so long as they're
>>> well balanced.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>
>> I did mission 3 first go, but it took me a few restarts to do that
>> fecking wasp. I especially hate boss fights where you have to ATTACK
>> THEIR WEAK SPOT FOR MASSIVE DAMAGE. The mission 3 one was ok as just
>> hitting it anywhere did the same amount of damage. I hated that worm,
>> hitting tiny little dots that were constantly moving with a rocket
>> launcher that took an hour to reload after each shot. The wasp was
>> annoying but not as much as the worm.
>
> You do know you didn't have to kill the worm, right? You can just outrun it.
>
> Chris

Yes, but since there was a 50-point achievement at stake, that wasn't
an option.

--
Zo

Zomoniac

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Feb 2, 2007, 6:20:39 AM2/2/07
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On 2007-02-02 11:18:15 +0000, DBSnappa
<davidjREMOV...@hotmail.com> said:

The checkpoints can be horrible. It should be one per batch, rather
than one for every set of 5 batches.

--
Zo

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DBSnappa

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Feb 2, 2007, 6:24:58 AM2/2/07
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Chris Whitworth wrote:
> The Canadian girl in our office says it's groundhog day, so, uh, happy
> groundhog day!
>
Shoot the hairy little fuckers!

Anyway, this weekend, I will probably be playing....

Just Cause (360) As part of my mission to actually give some play time
to the plethora of games I bought last year and gave scant attention to,
I shall be playing this. It isn't a chore, either. It's good fun to hang
out on this huge island, just farting around, and most of the missions
are quite easy. I may actually finish it, as well.

Oh, if anybody is interested, I have spare copy for sale (I was so busy
for most of last year that I was ordering stuff from all over the place
and ordered multiple copies of quite a few things last year - this one,
I forgot to send back!)

GeOW. Especially if I can lure someone online for a bit of Coop.

A million and one other things I could play and could mention, but I won't.

deKay

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Feb 2, 2007, 6:27:09 AM2/2/07
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>Chris Whitworth wrote:


>> The Canadian girl in our office

>Shoot the hairy little fuckers!

Harsh but fair.

DBSnappa

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Feb 2, 2007, 6:30:40 AM2/2/07
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I was actually referring to the fact that if you start a coop game on
Live, it erases your save. Sure, you can start from any chapter in any
given act, which is pretty much the same as having a save, but it sure
is disconcerting.

Gareth R Halfacree

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Feb 2, 2007, 6:37:57 AM2/2/07
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DBSnappa wrote:
> Just Cause (360)

>
> Oh, if anybody is interested, I have spare copy for sale (I was so busy
> for most of last year that I was ordering stuff from all over the place
> and ordered multiple copies of quite a few things last year - this one,
> I forgot to send back!)

How much? Not that I should be buying *more* games, but there we go...

--
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http://gareth.halfacree.co.uk

Zomoniac

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Feb 2, 2007, 6:56:41 AM2/2/07
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On 2007-02-02 11:30:40 +0000, DBSnappa
<davidjREMOV...@hotmail.com> said:

Is there a way to play co-op on Live but get achievements on both
sides? I did acts 3 & 4 online with a mate, but because it starts the
game a few seconds before the other person enters, they don't get the
"finish act x" achievements, only the co-op ones. We want to do insane
together but only have to do it the once for us both to get
recognition, without having to do the whole lot in one sitting. Is
there a way?

--
Zo

Zomoniac

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Feb 2, 2007, 6:58:50 AM2/2/07
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On 2007-02-02 11:24:58 +0000, DBSnappa
<davidjREMOV...@hotmail.com> said:

> Chris Whitworth wrote:
>> The Canadian girl in our office says it's groundhog day, so, uh, happy
>> groundhog day!
>>
> Shoot the hairy little fuckers!
>
> Anyway, this weekend, I will probably be playing....
>
> Just Cause (360) As part of my mission to actually give some play time
> to the plethora of games I bought last year and gave scant attention
> to, I shall be playing this. It isn't a chore, either. It's good fun to
> hang out on this huge island, just farting around, and most of the
> missions are quite easy. I may actually finish it, as well.
>
> Oh, if anybody is interested, I have spare copy for sale (I was so busy
> for most of last year that I was ordering stuff from all over the place
> and ordered multiple copies of quite a few things last year - this one,
> I forgot to send back!)

How much? (Bearing in mind it's £20 from Play-Asia region-free)


--
Zo

RichGK

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Feb 2, 2007, 7:35:59 AM2/2/07
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On 2 Feb, 11:19, DBSnappa <davidjREMOVEMEbough...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> RichGK wrote:
> > PWD - Planned Weekend Decorating
>
> > Do the hall and landing then we are finished ha haar!
>
> Provided you're not repapering, it should be do-able in a weekend. If
> you are, it'll take about fifteen weekends!
>
>

I told the wife 4 years ago that I'd do no more papering, we paid
someone the last time. Alas this is all painting so it's the missus
and me doing it.

and what do you know she developed a bad back yesterday :-)

>
> > PWG
>
> > I have now discovered the joy that is Gears of War. I'm loving this
> > game and can't see me doing much else for a while. I even think that
> > it isn't as gung ho as people made out, ok the models are a bit
> > extreme but it's all bloody (literally) goodness.
>
> It gets better with experience, this game.

Yes I can see how too what with the controls not really second nature
yet and I'm about half way through the game :-)

RichGK

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Feb 2, 2007, 7:37:33 AM2/2/07
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On 2 Feb, 11:06, Zomoniac <the_proper_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 2007-02-02 11:03:58 +0000, Chris Whitworth <usenet.ch...@parm.net> said:

>
> > On 2007-02-02, Zomoniac <the_proper_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> Lost Planet (360) - I don't like bosses in games. They annoy me.
>
> > Let me guess, you're on mission 3 or 4?
>
> > Chris
>
> Just finished 4. Didn't find either of them especially hard, I just
> don't like bosses in any game ever.
>
> God Of War excepted.
>
> --
> Zo

Surely Shadow of the Colossus too? The best boss game ever!

Zomoniac

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Feb 2, 2007, 7:38:32 AM2/2/07
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Had it since release date, still in factory seal in my shelf. The end
boss on Ico was the shittiest battle I've ever played.

--
Zo

Zomoniac

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Feb 2, 2007, 7:39:43 AM2/2/07
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People made out that it was gung-ho? The first level on casual, maybe,
but if you play gung-ho on hardcore you'll be dead within seconds.

--
Zo

Chris Stevens

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Feb 2, 2007, 8:45:12 AM2/2/07
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"Chris Whitworth" <usenet...@parm.net> wrote in message
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> The Canadian girl in our office says it's groundhog day, so, uh, happy
> groundhog day!
>
> Anyway, this weekend, I'll be playing:
>

NFS: Most Wanted (360)
I'm finding this surprisingly enjoyable. I remember the demo *really*
rubbing me up the wrong way, but I can't remember what it was that bothered
me. Whatever it was, I've either learnt to ignore it, or it's absent from
the full game. It's nothing spectacular, mind - just simple, super-fast,
arcade racing fun.
I'm only an hour or two into it and currently challenging number 12 on the
list, so I expect it'll not take too long to get through unless it toughens
up a bit.

Dynasty Warriors 5 (360)
I shall probably play through the remaining scenarios in empire mode over
the weekend. I'm buggered if I can work out what the criteria are for
unlocking the 'special' battles (maybe I *do* need some knowledge of Ancient
Chinese history). If none appear by the time I get to the end of the last
campaign, it's off to Gamefaqs for me...

Marble Blast Ultra (360)
After last weekends complete non-starter of an attempt to play some
multiplayer, I'm determined to have another go.

Zelda: TP (Wii)
I *will* get of my arse and play this at least up to the second dungeon. I'm
in serious danger of my 7 year old son overtaking me now, so if I don't get
round to playing it, I'll have to ban him from doing so!

Also, no doubt, some of the usual weekend Live staples - RS:V, PES6, COD3,
TH'E, etc.


Chris.

GT: SomethingWitty


RichGK

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Feb 2, 2007, 9:14:48 AM2/2/07
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Well, the gameplay in SotC is a different animal to ICO (I forget the
ending of that game TBH). I'm not keen on boss battles either but SotC
feels different. The game doesn't make you frustrated with each battle
like you would with a normal game, in fact you look forward to them.

Honestly, you owe it to yourself to try it for a couple of hours at
least. It's brilliant the way that the game plays with your emotions,
the presentation is sublime and the ending is superb (to put your mind
at rest). In fact it's the only game I've ever played where I sat and
grinned all the way through the end credits.

An outright classic IMHO.

Zomoniac

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Feb 2, 2007, 9:21:11 AM2/2/07
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On 2007-02-02 14:14:48 +0000, "RichGK" <Ric...@hotmail.co.uk> said:

> It's brilliant the way that the game plays with your emotions,
> the presentation is sublime and the ending is superb (to put your mind
> at rest). In fact it's the only game I've ever played where I sat and
> grinned all the way through the end credits.

The ending to Ico is the greatest moment of videogaming ever devised.
It's just the bit immediately prior to the ending, the boss battle, is
the most rubbish and uninspired bit of gaming I've ever done.

--
Zo

Zomoniac

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Feb 2, 2007, 9:23:27 AM2/2/07
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On 2007-02-02 13:45:12 +0000, "Chris Stevens"
<ne...@thestevensfamily.plus.com> said:

> "Chris Whitworth" <usenet...@parm.net> wrote in message
> news:slrnes63ju.f3...@parm.vs.topper.me.uk...
>> The Canadian girl in our office says it's groundhog day, so, uh, happy
>> groundhog day!
>>
>> Anyway, this weekend, I'll be playing:
>>
>
> NFS: Most Wanted (360)
> I'm finding this surprisingly enjoyable. I remember the demo *really*
> rubbing me up the wrong way, but I can't remember what it was that bothered
> me. Whatever it was, I've either learnt to ignore it, or it's absent from
> the full game. It's nothing spectacular, mind - just simple, super-fast,
> arcade racing fun.
> I'm only an hour or two into it and currently challenging number 12 on the
> list, so I expect it'll not take too long to get through unless it toughens
> up a bit.

It does. Bearing in mind at the moment you need to win about 2 races
and get a few thousand bounty, by the last dude, you need ten million
bounty, about 20 races and the milestones are stuff like $1m CTS, jump
20 police roadblocks in a run, tag 30 police cars in a run, and still
get out of that run without being caught.

--
Zo

Paul Evans

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Feb 2, 2007, 9:51:45 AM2/2/07
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I'm still trying to shake off the jet-lag after flying home from Australia
yesterday, but I'm still bloody shattered!

After spending most of Christmas playing Need For Speed Underground in the
local arcade in Surfers Paradise, I want to get hold of it this weekend on
PS2 (if it exists) because I got so addicted to it at the time.

Meanwhile, I plan to get myself reacquainted with Oblivion and The Sims 2
(both PC). Sadly, the rest of the weekend will be taken up writing job
applications... It's one hell of a way to come crashing back to earth after
months of travelling and drinking...

Paul.


[ste parker]

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Good trip then?

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The Rev

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Chris Whitworth wrote:
> The Canadian girl in our office says it's groundhog day, so, uh, happy
> groundhog day!
>
> Anyway, this weekend, I'll be playing:

Lovely Flash game Dice Wars -

http://www.gamedesign.jp/flash/dice/dice.html

I think I'm late to the party on this one, but never mind. Glad I found
the rules online, too.

Probably mostly DS stuff this weekend apart from that. I'm trying
Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin again because it's Castlevania, but it's
really too hard for rubbish old me. I'll be doing some Picross, no doubt.

And I'll no doubt squeeze in some time with the Crackdown demo.

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RichGK

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Ah I remember now it's the beam of light thing (IIRC) - yup it's crap.

SotC is *nothing* like that however. The boss battles are the levels
if you will. Getting to a boss is simply a matter of travelling there.

You probably know this already but if not. Each boss is a giant, you
have to actually climb all over them to attack their weakspots for
massive damage. It's not a case of some cheap tactic, every battle is
epic, difficult but ultimately fair.

You really should try it. If you have a PS2 around I couldn't think of
a better reason to fire it up.

Zomoniac

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My PS2 is currently boxed up in my wardrobe, waiting for me to get
around to selling it. The only thing that's currently stopping me is
the thought of me not having bought a PS3 by the time God Of War 2
comes out, and not being able to play it.

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DBSnappa

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deKay wrote:
> Soni tempori elseu romani yeof helsforo nisson ol sefini ill des Fri, 02 Feb
> 2007 11:24:58 GMT, sefini jorgo geanyet des mani yeof do uk.games.video.misc,
> yawatina tan reek esk DBSnappa <davidjREMOV...@hotmail.com> fornis do
> marikano es bono tan el:
>
>> Chris Whitworth wrote:
>>> The Canadian girl in our office
>
>> Shoot the hairy little fuckers!
>
> Harsh but fair.
>
>
:D

DBSnappa

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Feb 2, 2007, 11:36:16 AM2/2/07
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Gareth R Halfacree wrote:
> DBSnappa wrote:
>> Just Cause (360)
>>
>> Oh, if anybody is interested, I have spare copy for sale (I was so
>> busy for most of last year that I was ordering stuff from all over the
>> place and ordered multiple copies of quite a few things last year -
>> this one, I forgot to send back!)
>
> How much? Not that I should be buying *more* games, but there we go...
>
Oooh, dunno. £20 inc P&P alright?

DBSnappa

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I think the achievements go to whoever is hosting, unless it's the play
game as Dom achievement, which you obviously can't do and Host at the
same time - I suspect the points would be the same?

DBSnappa

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Is it? Does that include P&P?

Zomoniac

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On 2007-02-02 16:38:49 +0000, DBSnappa
<davidjREMOV...@hotmail.com> said:

No, so it'd be £22.

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DBSnappa

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I'm really enjoying the second play through on Insane - it feels really
good now, apart from the fecking wretches in confined spaces!

DBSnappa

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I'll do it for £20 inclusive then.

Paul Tomlin

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In article <52h48tF...@mid.individual.net>, the_rev_y...@hotmail.com
says...

> Probably mostly DS stuff this weekend apart from that. I'm trying
> Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin again because it's Castlevania, but it's
> really too hard for rubbish old me.

I find comments regarding PoR being hard kind of odd, because I found it
to be probably the easiest of recent Castlevania games. Hell, I think
its the only Castlevania I've managed to finish since SotM other than
Lament of Innocent, due to me always getting def up with not being able
to beat the final bosses.

The Rev

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I completed Dawn of Sorrow, but I'm finding PoR really, really hard.
It's really putting me off.

Lister

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Feb 2, 2007, 1:54:15 PM2/2/07
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On 2 Feb 2007 10:12:14 GMT, Chris Whitworth <usenet...@parm.net>
wrote:

>The Canadian girl in our office says it's groundhog day, so, uh, happy
>groundhog day!
>


So whatever you're playing today, will just repeat itself over and
over again?

Sounds like an EA game :)


>Anyway, this weekend, I'll be playing:
>

Not a lot, Nothing actually.

Paul Tomlin

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This weekend I'll mostly be playing The iDOLM@STER (360). Famitsu lied,
for this is far more entertaining than their review scores would have
you beleive - not to mention that I need to play it enough to justify
the cost of the LE edition I bought (its *slightly* more excessive than
the usual 360 tin box...). I'm not really doing all that well first my
first Idol, but I need to see it through to the end inorder to get some
closure on it. Well, that and the fact that it'll not let me manage a
duo until I've boosted my Producer rank a bit.

Hotel Dusk (DS) turned up today, so I might play some of that as well.
I'll probably have another attempt at beating that Greeneye thing in
Lost Planet (360) too.

Paul Evans

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"[ste parker]" <imag...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:52h2dlF...@mid.individual.net...

It had it's ups and downs, but definitely more ups.

I couldn't get used to the food and the beer's really expensive, but there
were a lot of crazy people out there especially during the cricket and the
hostels I stayed in along the east coast ranged from brilliant to crap. It
also rained a lot too, especially in Cairns where the wet season's well
under way.

I also managed to get stung by a jellyfish on Christmas Day which led to an
allergic reaction causing my leg and foot muscles to seize up and left me in
chronic pain for nearly four weeks. One hell of a downer if there ever was
one!

Definitely glad to be back in the UK though - the games are cheaper here for
one thing! Typical prices for PS2 games in Oz seem to range from £40-£50,
and those were the discounted ones...

Paul.


neil h

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Feb 2, 2007, 3:29:13 PM2/2/07
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The Rev wrote:
> Chris Whitworth wrote:
>> The Canadian girl in our office says it's groundhog day, so, uh, happy
>> groundhog day!
>>
>> Anyway, this weekend, I'll be playing:
>
> Lovely Flash game Dice Wars -
>
> http://www.gamedesign.jp/flash/dice/dice.html

Have you tried the multiplayer version?

http://kdice.com/


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Chris Whitworth

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Feb 2, 2007, 3:55:37 PM2/2/07
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On 2007-02-02, Paul Evans <paul.e...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>> Good trip then?

>
> Definitely glad to be back in the UK though - the games are cheaper here for
> one thing! Typical prices for PS2 games in Oz seem to range from £40-£50,
> and those were the discounted ones...

And so the real reason Choobs came home so quickly is revealed :)

Chris
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"Chris Whitworth" <usenet...@parm.net> wrote in message
news:slrnes79a9.f3...@parm.vs.topper.me.uk...

> On 2007-02-02, Paul Evans <paul.e...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Good trip then?
>>
>> Definitely glad to be back in the UK though - the games are cheaper here
>> for
>> one thing! Typical prices for PS2 games in Oz seem to range from £40-£50,
>> and those were the discounted ones...
>
> And so the real reason Choobs came home so quickly is revealed :)
>
oooh, when did he come back?

Paul.


Kendrick Kerwin Chua

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In article <slrnes63ju.f3...@parm.vs.topper.me.uk>,

Chris Whitworth <usenet...@parm.net> wrote:
>The Canadian girl in our office says it's groundhog day, so, uh, happy
>groundhog day!

I witnessed Phil emerging from his stump and predicting an early Spring,
to the delight of the drunken, sleep-deprived crowd:

http://www.groundhog.org/prediction/

-KKC, who has no planned gaming beyond GBA time on the road.
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Chris Whitworth

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On 2007-02-02, Paul Evans <paul.e...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> "Chris Whitworth" <usenet...@parm.net> wrote in message
> news:slrnes79a9.f3...@parm.vs.topper.me.uk...
>> On 2007-02-02, Paul Evans <paul.e...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Good trip then?
>>>
>>> Definitely glad to be back in the UK though - the games are cheaper here
>>> for
>>> one thing! Typical prices for PS2 games in Oz seem to range from £40-£50,
>>> and those were the discounted ones...
>>
>> And so the real reason Choobs came home so quickly is revealed :)
>>
> oooh, when did he come back?

In the last week or two. The initial announcement was in a PWB thread around
new year, I think. Something to do with his kids being eaten by insects or
something.

Chris Whitworth

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On 2007-02-02, Kendrick Kerwin Chua <kend...@nospam.io> wrote:
> In article <slrnes63ju.f3...@parm.vs.topper.me.uk>,
> Chris Whitworth <usenet...@parm.net> wrote:
>>The Canadian girl in our office says it's groundhog day, so, uh, happy
>>groundhog day!
>
> I witnessed Phil emerging from his stump and predicting an early Spring,
> to the delight of the drunken, sleep-deprived crowd:
>
> http://www.groundhog.org/prediction/

According to said Canadian girl, Phil doesn't count and it's some other
groundhog called Willie from Ontario that's the real one, or something. Either
way, the whole thing seems extremely silly, but a very good excuse to get
drunk, so at least one of my several pints tonight was raised to all
groundhogs, everywhere.

Paul Evans

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"Chris Whitworth" <usenet...@parm.net> wrote in message
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> On 2007-02-02, Paul Evans <paul.e...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>> "Chris Whitworth" <usenet...@parm.net> wrote in message
>> news:slrnes79a9.f3...@parm.vs.topper.me.uk...
>>> On 2007-02-02, Paul Evans <paul.e...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Good trip then?
>>>>
>>>> Definitely glad to be back in the UK though - the games are cheaper
>>>> here
>>>> for
>>>> one thing! Typical prices for PS2 games in Oz seem to range from
>>>> £40-£50,
>>>> and those were the discounted ones...
>>>
>>> And so the real reason Choobs came home so quickly is revealed :)
>>>
>> oooh, when did he come back?
>
> In the last week or two. The initial announcement was in a PWB thread
> around
> new year, I think. Something to do with his kids being eaten by insects
> or
> something.
>
I can relate to that! Cockroaches, two-inch-long beatles, ants, spiders and
loads of other sodding insects all trying to take out chunks of my skin
during the time I was there. Then there was the bloody mozzies that gave my
arms and legs a measles-like complexion every few days because it was too
hot to sleep under the cover...

The ants are the most vicious though - even the tiniest of them, just over
1mm long seemed to have no trouble crawling onto my feet and trying to bite
skin off. It was a great pleasure stamping on those little f*ckers!

Don't even get me started on the flies in NSW that tried to crawl into every
orifice in my face! I found myself constantly trying to shoo the little
bastards off only for them to repeatedly come back and try again, usually in
groups of three or four.

There was an incredibly annoying TV ad over there for an insect repellant,
showing an annoying wife and husband (and kid, but I don't think he actually
said anything) having a conversation in their back yard that sort of ran:

H: Have I got it on?
W: You've got it on.
H: Are you sure it's on? I can't smell it.
W: Are you being pestered by insects?
H: No.
W: Then you've got it on.

The advert was so effective that I can't even remember what the product was.
All I do remember was wanting to kick them in the face, but hostel rules
prevented me from damaging the TV!

Paul.

DBSnappa

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He never actually went. It's all a figment of your imagination.

Toby Newman

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On 2007-02-02, The Rev <the_rev_y...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Chris Whitworth wrote:
>> The Canadian girl in our office says it's groundhog day, so, uh, happy
>> groundhog day!
>>
>> Anyway, this weekend, I'll be playing:
>
> Lovely Flash game Dice Wars -
>
> http://www.gamedesign.jp/flash/dice/dice.html
>
> I think I'm late to the party on this one, but never mind. Glad I found
> the rules online, too.

This is basically Risk, right?

--
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Sir Chewbury Gubbins

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On 2007-02-02, Great Cthulhu rose from the deep and compelled Chris Whitworth to exclaim:

> On 2007-02-02, Paul Evans <paul.e...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Good trip then?
>>
>> Definitely glad to be back in the UK though - the games are cheaper here for
>> one thing! Typical prices for PS2 games in Oz seem to range from £40-£50,
>> and those were the discounted ones...
>
> And so the real reason Choobs came home so quickly is revealed :)

Damn tootin' ;-) Food and fuel are bloody cheap, but consumer
electronics / games / DVDs are fecking extortionate.

Choobs

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Abu the monkey was never naughty.

Sir Chewbury Gubbins

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On 2007-02-02, Great Cthulhu rose from the deep and compelled Paul Evans to exclaim:

Before you :) Came back on the 15th - via Hong Kong.

Sir Chewbury Gubbins

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On 2007-02-02, Great Cthulhu rose from the deep and compelled Paul Evans to exclaim:
>
> Don't even get me started on the flies in NSW that tried to crawl into every

The flies are incredible. You get the hang of it though - the easiest
thing to do is just accept that the Ozzie fly will go wherever it damn
well pleases and there's absolutely nothing you can do about the
persistent little fuckers.

> There was an incredibly annoying TV ad over there for an insect repellant,

I wasn't really able to discern between incredibly annoying tv ads or
any of the other million things that make 100% of Oz TV incredibly
annoying. It's just one long 24 hour cycle of annoyingness ;-)

[ste parker]

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Paul Evans wrote:
> "[ste parker]" <imag...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, I plan to get myself reacquainted with Oblivion and The Sims 2
>>> (both PC). Sadly, the rest of the weekend will be taken up writing job
>>> applications... It's one hell of a way to come crashing back to earth
>>> after months of travelling and drinking...
>>>
>> Good trip then?
>>
>
> It had it's ups and downs, but definitely more ups.
>
> I couldn't get used to the food and the beer's really expensive,

Well, avoiding the rest, I didn't find the food that dissimilar to what
I eat over here, nor did I find the beer overly pricey either to be
honest. But then, a night out in Leeds or Manchester costs a fucking
fortune these days.

--
[ste]

[ste parker]

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Kendrick Kerwin Chua wrote:
> In article <slrnes63ju.f3...@parm.vs.topper.me.uk>,
> Chris Whitworth <usenet...@parm.net> wrote:
>> The Canadian girl in our office says it's groundhog day, so, uh, happy
>> groundhog day!
>
> I witnessed Phil emerging from his stump and predicting an early Spring,
> to the delight of the drunken, sleep-deprived crowd:
>
> http://www.groundhog.org/prediction/
>

Is that the one out of Groundhog Day?

--
[ste]

[ste parker]

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Chris Whitworth wrote:
> On 2007-02-02, Kendrick Kerwin Chua <kend...@nospam.io> wrote:
>> In article <slrnes63ju.f3...@parm.vs.topper.me.uk>,
>> Chris Whitworth <usenet...@parm.net> wrote:
>>> The Canadian girl in our office says it's groundhog day, so, uh, happy
>>> groundhog day!
>> I witnessed Phil emerging from his stump and predicting an early Spring,
>> to the delight of the drunken, sleep-deprived crowd:
>>
>> http://www.groundhog.org/prediction/
>
> According to said Canadian girl, Phil doesn't count and it's some other
> groundhog called Willie from Ontario that's the real one, or something.

Or is that the Groundhog Day one? I must know!

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[ste]

Kendrick Kerwin Chua

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Feb 3, 2007, 9:35:10 PM2/3/07
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In article <52knc1F...@mid.individual.net>,

Groundhog.org is the official website for Punxsatawny, Pennsylvania and is
indeed the same groundhog day event covered in the motion picture starring
Bill Murray and Andie Macdowell. Although the myth is intended to apply
equally to all groundhogs, every city with a groundhog mascot playfully
engages in a good-natured rivalry. The event I attended is the one
depicted in the movie.

-KKC, doing fun things with Mountain Dew.

DBSnappa

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Feb 4, 2007, 4:23:33 AM2/4/07
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Kendrick Kerwin Chua wrote:

>
> -KKC, doing fun things with Mountain Dew.

What? Like getting fat and eroding your stomach lining?

Kendrick Kerwin Chua

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In article <pChxh.255348$MO2....@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,

Perhaps not the former, since it's the diet variety. The latter,
certainly. There's a trick to making a certain gelatin dessert where one
substitutes Diet Mountain Dew for the water in equal proportions.

Well, you did ask. :)

-KKC, whose internal body pH must be like 3 or 4, due to all the
carbonated beverages and coffee.

Paul Evans

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"Sir Chewbury Gubbins" <chewbury...@nelefa.org> wrote in message
news:52kb3uF...@mid.individual.net...

> On 2007-02-02, Great Cthulhu rose from the deep and compelled Chris
> Whitworth to exclaim:
>> On 2007-02-02, Paul Evans <paul.e...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Good trip then?
>>>
>>> Definitely glad to be back in the UK though - the games are cheaper here
>>> for
>>> one thing! Typical prices for PS2 games in Oz seem to range from
>>> £40-£50,
>>> and those were the discounted ones...
>>
>> And so the real reason Choobs came home so quickly is revealed :)
>
> Damn tootin' ;-) Food and fuel are bloody cheap, but consumer
> electronics / games / DVDs are fecking extortionate.
>
> Choobs

Bur Dominos Pizza tastes bloody awful over there, as do the Baked Beans,
unless you can actually find a Coles that sells the Heinz "English recipe"
version! ;-)

Paul.


Paul Evans

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"[ste parker]" <imag...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:52kn9fF...@mid.individual.net...
I think it depends where you go in Manchester. Student bars are still cheap
(I absolutely refuse to go to bars/clubs that impose a dress code, although
all pubs/bars in Oz do this anyway - admittedly, it's jeans/t-shirts which
is a far better proposition) in Manchester, but the main bars charge a
fortune. It's always far cheaper in Oz to go to a bottle shop but most
hostels do not allow beer in the dorms because they have their own licenced
bar.

The food, I just couldn't get used to. Even getting away from Pizza
Hut/Dominos/McDonalds/Hungry Jacks (Burger King), a lot of the stuff I'm
used to here like Heinz soups, baked beans etc, tasted very different over
there (or had no flavour at all), although "English recipe" versions were
available, if the local Coles supermarket bothered stocking them!

Paul.


Sir Chewbury Gubbins

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On 2007-02-05, Great Cthulhu rose from the deep and compelled Paul Evans to exclaim:

Seconded. And don't start me with the "KFC" :-/ What the hell is
"chicken salt" anyway?

Kendrick Kerwin Chua

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Feb 5, 2007, 7:27:18 AM2/5/07
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In article <52olkrF...@mid.individual.net>,

Sir Chewbury Gubbins <chewbury...@nelefa.org> wrote:
>
>Seconded. And don't start me with the "KFC" :-/ What the hell is
>"chicken salt" anyway?

Normal iodized table salt does not come from the chickens, but from
natural mines or from chemical manufacturing. In the case of chicken salt,
chickens are poured into large vats to allow for natural evaporation,
which leaves heterogenous but aromatic salt behind. This salt is treasured
by gourmet chefs the world over for its coarse texture and its natural
flavor which is evocative of the wide expanse of chickens that separate
the continents.

-KKC, who is now inspired to play the Star Wars pants game.

Chris Whitworth

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Feb 5, 2007, 7:27:32 AM2/5/07
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On 2007-02-05, Paul Evans <paul.e...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> Well, avoiding the rest, I didn't find the food that dissimilar to what I
>> eat over here, nor did I find the beer overly pricey either to be honest.
>> But then, a night out in Leeds or Manchester costs a fucking fortune these
>> days.
>>
> I think it depends where you go in Manchester. Student bars are still cheap
> (I absolutely refuse to go to bars/clubs that impose a dress code, although
> all pubs/bars in Oz do this anyway - admittedly, it's jeans/t-shirts which
> is a far better proposition) in Manchester, but the main bars charge a
> fortune.

Actual proper pubs are still usually reasonably priced: Sinclairs is still
under 2quid a pint, and I think the Lass might still be sensibly priced. The
Marble pubs are okay if you drink the Marble beers, as are any Holts or Hydes
pubs (and JW Lees, but you wouldn't want to drink their beer). But any chain
pubs - other than Wethertramps - and any bar-style place and you're paying
at least 2.50 for a pint of anything, rising to over 3quid for a "premium"
beer (ie, anything you'd actually want to drink).

It's a bit depressing, really. My first pint of beer in Manchester (just
under 10 years ago now...) cost me 95p.

Chris Whitworth

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Feb 5, 2007, 7:42:49 AM2/5/07
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On 2007-02-05, Kendrick Kerwin Chua <kend...@nospam.io> wrote:
> In article <52olkrF...@mid.individual.net>,
> Sir Chewbury Gubbins <chewbury...@nelefa.org> wrote:
>>
>>Seconded. And don't start me with the "KFC" :-/ What the hell is
>>"chicken salt" anyway?
>
> Normal iodized table salt does not come from the chickens, but from
> natural mines or from chemical manufacturing. In the case of chicken salt,
> chickens are poured into large vats to allow for natural evaporation,
> which leaves heterogenous but aromatic salt behind. This salt is treasured
> by gourmet chefs the world over for its coarse texture and its natural
> flavor which is evocative of the wide expanse of chickens that separate
> the continents.

That was very, very surreal.

Toby Newman

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Feb 5, 2007, 9:00:01 AM2/5/07
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On 2007-02-05, Kendrick Kerwin Chua <kend...@nospam.io> wrote:
> In article <52olkrF...@mid.individual.net>,
> Sir Chewbury Gubbins <chewbury...@nelefa.org> wrote:
>>
>>Seconded. And don't start me with the "KFC" :-/ What the hell is
>>"chicken salt" anyway?
>
> Normal iodized table salt does not come from the chickens, but from
> natural mines or from chemical manufacturing. In the case of chicken salt,
> chickens are poured into large vats to allow for natural evaporation,
> which leaves heterogenous but aromatic salt behind. This salt is treasured
> by gourmet chefs the world over for its coarse texture and its natural
> flavor which is evocative of the wide expanse of chickens that separate
> the continents.

Excellent.

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