Top brew pubs?
eastender
http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/2009/nov/25/ten-top-uk-brew-pubs
E.
Offramp
Nothing in London. The Pimlico Brewery is no more and of course
Young's has gone...
eastender
<85408161-c643-465b...@j4g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
Offramp <alane...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Nothing in London. The Pimlico Brewery is no more and of course
> Young's has gone...
Indeed - is there none now? Of the top ten I know only the Evening Star
in Brighton, and the Dark Star brewery is named after a beer from the
Pitfield brew shop in London, which was near me and alas not there now.
The comments on the item give other reccs - the Fat Cat in Sheffield
seems to a big omission.
E.
cciaffone
the Coniston Brewery?? Coniston Old Man
is a thing of beauty and a joy forever.
John Sullivan
"cciaffone" <ccia...@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:hemkom$on7$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> Has no one mentioned the Black Bull pub of
> the Coniston Brewery?? Coniston Old Man
> is a thing of beauty and a joy forever.
Also the Alexandra Arms in Rugby, which brews for itself and Atomic Brewery,
who tap is the nearby Victoria.
Chris
The link refers to an article about micro breweries. Consiton, whilst
being behind a pub, is hardly that, with "...1600 gallons brewed a
week for distribution to 100 customer outlets..."!
Plenty of other genuine micros in pubs in Cumbria!
--
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Whitehaven Beer Festival: 20th & 21st Nov 2009 (www.whitehavenbeerfestival.co.uk)
www.cumbrianbreweries.org.uk for good craic on our beers!
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Roy Bailey
eastender <nos...@nospam.com> writes
>Top ten brew pubs as selected by the Guardian:
>
>http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/2009/nov/25/ten-top-uk-brew-pubs
>
Thame, Oxfordshire.
Until about a year a go this was a rather uninspiring Pubmaster house
with no real ale and under threat of closure. It was bought by Oak
Taverns and re-furbished in a very comfortable and friendly style, and a
brewery, known as the Thame Brewery, was opened there earlier this
month.
I visited the pub last week, but the beer had proved so popular that
there was none available, but they had three beers from The Vale Brewery
on tap and I enjoyed an excellent pint of Black Swan Mild.
Definitely a place to keep an eye on.
Roy.
--
Roy Bailey
West Berkshire.
Pat Ricroft
>
> The link refers to an article about micro breweries. Consiton, whilst
> being behind a pub, is hardly that, with "...1600 gallons brewed a
> week for distribution to 100 customer outlets..."!
>
> Plenty of other genuine micros in pubs in Cumbria!
But what's your definition of "micro"? 1600 gallons a week may mean a
10 barrel plant brewing 4 or 5 times a week. Does that mean "micro"?
Or "mini" perhaps? It certainly isn't "mega"!
--
Pat Ricroft, City of Salford, UK
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Chris
Pub breweries in Cumbria:
Barngates
Blackbeck
Foxfield - why wasn't that in the top ten list?????
Great Gable - but not for long because the new lease holder does not
want the brewery there ...
HardKnott
Hesket Newmarket
Strands
The Loweswater, which was at the Kirkstile Inn, has moved to bigger
premises (the former CLA brewery in Hawkshead)
and the Bitter End has moved to a unit on an estate
Watermill
And lots of other breweries as well, none apart from Jennings, which
are big time breweries!
--
Chris de Cordova (West Cumbria & Western Lakes) www.westcumbriacamra.org.uk
Whitehaven Beer Festival: 20th & 21st Nov 2009 (www.whitehavenbeerfestival.co.uk)
www.cumbrianbreweries.org.uk for good craic on our beers!
I almost had a psychic boyfriend but he left me before we met.
Chris
<ea6b90dc-b7d3-48f5...@b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
Is there an official one?
I expect a small - max 5 barrel plant, usually less, which can only
supply itself apart from the odd beer festival. That is micro to me!!
> 1600 gallons a week may mean
> a 10 barrel plant brewing 4 or 5 times a week.
That's big - when a breweries beers are commonplace, they are no
longer micro, to me!
--
Chris de Cordova (West Cumbria & Western Lakes) www.westcumbriacamra.org.uk
Whitehaven Beer Festival: 20th & 21st Nov 2009 (www.whitehavenbeerfestival.co.uk)
www.cumbrianbreweries.org.uk for good craic on our beers!
Many people quit looking for work when they find a job.
MikeMcG
Nothing? - not a bit of it!
Arguably, things have probably not been as active on the craft-beer
front in London in a decade or 2 -
London Brewpubs -
The Florence, Herne Hill - http://www.florencehernehill.com
Brew Wharf, nr Borough Market, SE1 - http://www.brewwharf.com/
Brodie's, brew pub in Leyton, at William IV pub - http://www.brodiesbeers.co.uk/
The Bünker, Covent Garden - http://www.bunkerbar.com/index2.htm
ZeroDegrees, Blackheath - http://www.zerodegrees.co.uk
McLaughlins at The Horsehoe, Hampstead - more info -
http://stonch.blogspot.com/2007/05/another-london-brewpub-horseshoe.html
(though rumour is they may have stopped brewing?)
London Micros -
Hapenny Brewing, (Ilford, Essex, but within M25) - http://www.hapenny-brewing.co.uk/
Sambrooks, Wandsworth - http://www.sambrooksbrewery.co.uk/
Meantime, Charlton - http://www.meantimebrewing.com/
Battersea Brewery - http://www.batterseabrewery.com/
Twickenham - http://www.twickenham-fine-ales.co.uk/
cheers
MikeMcG
MikeMcG
> In article
> <ea6b90dc-b7d3-48f5-a800-3d5b25ab0...@b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
> Pat Ricroft <pat.ricr...@virgin.net> wrote:
>
> > But what's your definition of "micro"?
>
> Is there an official one?
>
> I expect a small - max 5 barrel plant, usually less, which can only
> supply itself apart from the odd beer festival. That is micro to me!!
>
> > 1600 gallons a week may mean
> > a 10 barrel plant brewing 4 or 5 times a week.
>
> That's big - when a breweries beers are commonplace, they are no
> longer micro, to me!
Many micros start at 2.5bbl brewlength, then expand, to me they're
still micros - others like Saltaire & Sambrooks started at 20bbl
brewlength - still micros to me.
Copper Dragon can now brew 480 firkins a day! (set up to double brew
on 60bbl plant) - to me that's amazing growth, but still micro. I
think HopBack & Oakham, Wye Valley are all pretty big now, but still
micro, to me.
My definition of micro is a stand alone, un-massive brewery, but it's
also about a more modern ethos of craft-brewing.
(that generally eschews corner cutting, parti-gyling, cheap
ingredients, adjuncts, artificial colouring, etc).
Barngates is I think 10bbl, Hawkshead is now 20bbl, Tirril is now
20bbl - all still micros to me.
Another definition might use the upper volume limit of the UK small
brewers duty relief scheme
- 30,000 Hl/yr
= 18330barrels/yr
/ 50 working weeks
= c.366brewers barrels / week
= 1466 firkins/week
Now that's a lot of beer, but a hell of a lot less than many regionals
- e.g. in 2002, when Brakspear's closed in Henley, I think they were
brewing c.1000bbls/week (4000 firkins) & they were not the largest of
the regionals.
Cheers,
MikeMcG
John Frum
(in message
<9fb63002-f796-49c1...@b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>):
> On 26 Nov, 14:03, Offramp <alaneobr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 25 Nov, 14:36, eastender <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Top ten brew pubs as selected by the Guardian:
>>
>>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/2009/nov/25/ten-top-uk-brew-pubs
>>
>>> E.
>>
>> Nothing in London. The Pimlico Brewery is no more and of course
>> Young's has gone...
>
> Nothing? - not a bit of it!
> Arguably, things have probably not been as active on the craft-beer
> front in London in a decade or 2 -
>
> London Brewpubs -
> The Florence, Herne Hill - http://www.florencehernehill.com
> Brew Wharf, nr Borough Market, SE1 - http://www.brewwharf.com/
> Brodie's, brew pub in Leyton, at William IV pub -
> http://www.brodiesbeers.co.uk/
> The B�nker, Covent Garden - http://www.bunkerbar.com/index2.htm
> ZeroDegrees, Blackheath - http://www.zerodegrees.co.uk
> McLaughlins at The Horsehoe, Hampstead - more info -
> http://stonch.blogspot.com/2007/05/another-london-brewpub-horseshoe.html
> (though rumour is they may have stopped brewing?)
>
> London Micros -
> Hapenny Brewing, (Ilford, Essex, but within M25) -
> http://www.hapenny-brewing.co.uk/
> Sambrooks, Wandsworth - http://www.sambrooksbrewery.co.uk/
> Meantime, Charlton - http://www.meantimebrewing.com/
> Battersea Brewery - http://www.batterseabrewery.com/
> Twickenham - http://www.twickenham-fine-ales.co.uk/
>
> cheers
> MikeMcG
I believe Der Bunker ist kaput.
Unknown
wrote:
>Top ten brew pubs as selected by the Guardian:
>
>http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/2009/nov/25/ten-top-uk-brew-pubs
>
Interesting to see the Sair in the list. My understanding is that it's
no longer breweing, getting its beer from other local sources such as
Elland. Does anyone know the current position?
Enoch's Hammer certainly hasn't been brewed for many years and the
article misspells English Guinness - it is, of course English Guineas
to avoid any unpleasant litigation!
MikeMcG
> On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 22:25:27 +0000, MikeMcG wrote
> (in message
>
>
>
> > On 26 Nov, 14:03, Offramp <alaneobr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 25 Nov, 14:36, eastender <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> >>> Top ten brew pubs as selected by the Guardian:
>
> >>>http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/2009/nov/25/ten-top-uk-brew-pubs
>
> >>> E.
>
> >> Nothing in London. The Pimlico Brewery is no more and of course
> >> Young's has gone...
>
> > Nothing? - not a bit of it!
> > Arguably, things have probably not been as active on the craft-beer
> > front in London in a decade or 2 -
>
> > London Brewpubs -
> > Brew Wharf, nr Borough Market, SE1 -http://www.brewwharf.com/> > The Bünker, Covent Garden -http://www.bunkerbar.com/index2.htm
> > ZeroDegrees, Blackheath -http://www.zerodegrees.co.uk
> > McLaughlins at The Horsehoe, Hampstead - more info -
> >http://stonch.blogspot.com/2007/05/another-london-brewpub-horseshoe.html
> > (though rumour is they may have stopped brewing?)
>
> > London Micros -
> > Hapenny Brewing, (Ilford, Essex, but within M25) -
> >http://www.hapenny-brewing.co.uk/
> > Sambrooks, Wandsworth -http://www.sambrooksbrewery.co.uk/
> > Meantime, Charlton -http://www.meantimebrewing.com/
> > Battersea Brewery -http://www.batterseabrewery.com/
>
> > cheers
> > MikeMcG
>
> I believe Der Bunker ist kaput.
Nein!? - Zay eet ist-n't zo!
I have mixed feelings about this place - I visited it & chatted to the
brewer many moons ago when it was Soho Brewing - loved all of the
lovely copper kit, went back for a Xmas meal, which was OK, if you
like loud music, annoying people & having your favourite coat stolen!
Then when it became Freedom, I got to know the talented German brewer
& enjoyed his lager & wheat beers (not the outsourced brewed & bottled
ones that all of the daft young folk were drinking, mind!).
Wonder what's happening to that shiny brewplant?
cheers
MikeMcG
MikeMcG
Talking of good Yorks brewpubs (I've yet to make it to the Sair) we
recently broke our return journey from York & dog-legged off to
Marsden for some great pretty posh food & lovely fresh beers at The
Riverhead - the yum smells drifting up from the brewery on brew-day
only added to the charm of the place - really impressed all round.
http://www.ossett-brewery.co.uk/riverhead_brewery.html
cheers
MikeMcG
valeofbelvoirdrinker
wrote:
Although technically not a brew pub the Belvoir Brewery has a visitor
centre called the Sample Cellar which is a pub to all intents and
purposes.Brewery visits are popular and the food is good.
It's just off the main road between Nottingham and Melton Mowbray.
http://www.belvoirbrewery.co.uk/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1
Rosalba e Massimo
>McLaughlins at The Horsehoe, Hampstead - more info -
>http://stonch.blogspot.com/2007/05/another-london-brewpub-horseshoe.html
>(though rumour is they may have stopped brewing?)
in the last issue (december 2009) of "The Full Pint", by CAMRA N London
branch, there is a brief report about Horseshoe. They say that "early
this year" a new kit was installed, and they changed name to Camden Town
Brewery. On a "recent visit" CAMRA members found two house brewed ales
on tap while another one was fermenting in the basement.
ciao
max
www.maxbeer.org
reply to: rosamax (presso) fastwebnet (punto) it
MikeMcG
> MikeMcG <mikemcg6...@my-deja.com> ha scritto:
Thanks Max - good to hear they're still going. Have you tried the
beer?
cheers
MikeMcG
Rosalba e Massimo
>> in the last issue (december 2009) of "The Full Pint", by CAMRA N London
>> branch, there is a brief report about Horseshoe. They say that "early
>> this year" a new kit was installed, and they changed name to Camden Town
>> Brewery. On a "recent visit" CAMRA members found two house brewed ales
>> on tap while another one was fermenting in the basement.
>
>Thanks Max - good to hear they're still going. Have you tried the
>beer?
no... but a friend of mine visited the pub last March. He tried their
"homebrewed" beers; he found them "correct but without much character".
ciao
max
martyn dawe
yes but was it Camden brewery then, I went to the horseshoe a while
ago when it was disused, new management maybe ?
Tyson the Beerhound
"eastender" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Top ten brew pubs as selected by the Guardian:
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/2009/nov/25/ten-top-uk-brew-pubs
>
Probably more interesting would be top 10 worst, as there are a lot of bland
or ropey brewpubs. My contribution would be the Lord Raglan at Nangreaves.