does anyone use microwaves nowadays?

[postmaster @ stejonda]

We've had our kitchen ripped out and refitted over the past few months
and in doing so we didn't leave a specific space for the microwave.
We're now thinking that we really have no use for it any more as we're
both retired and have time to defrost/prepare/cook food properly
nowadays.

What do folks use their microwave for or does no one here have one? :-)

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[Ophelia]

"postmaster @ stejonda" <usenet...@stejonda.org.uk> wrote in message
news:$8SOjvIY...@stejonda.org.uk...

>
> We've had our kitchen ripped out and refitted over the past few months and
> in doing so we didn't leave a specific space for the microwave. We're now
> thinking that we really have no use for it any more as we're both retired
> and have time to defrost/prepare/cook food properly nowadays.
>
> What do folks use their microwave for or does no one here have one? :-)

Well mine is a combination (ie microwave/convection/grill) but if you are
asking about purely microwaves I cook veggies in it. Especially green
veggies (broccoli) and they keep their colour beautifully. I heat a lot of
things up in it too:)
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[S Viemeister]

On 5/13/2013 7:56 AM, postmaster @ stejonda wrote:
>
> We've had our kitchen ripped out and refitted over the past few months
> and in doing so we didn't leave a specific space for the microwave.
> We're now thinking that we really have no use for it any more as we're
> both retired and have time to defrost/prepare/cook food properly nowadays.
>
> What do folks use their microwave for or does no one here have one? :-)
>

I use mine to flash steam vegetables.

Just last night, I started scalloped sweet potatoes in the MC while the
oven was heating, then transferred the dish to the oven to finish.

I do rice in the MC, instead of on the hob or in a separate
space-hogging appliance.

It's good for hot chocolate done in the mug, so no pan to wash.

Porridge can be cooked in its bowl - no pan to wash.

And of course, reheating dinner on a plate (I cover the plate with a
large Pyrex lid).

[Stephen Wolstenholme]

On Mon, 13 May 2013 12:56:08 +0100, "postmaster @ stejonda"
<usenet...@stejonda.org.uk> wrote:

>
>We've had our kitchen ripped out and refitted over the past few months
>and in doing so we didn't leave a specific space for the microwave.
>We're now thinking that we really have no use for it any more as we're
>both retired and have time to defrost/prepare/cook food properly
>nowadays.
>
>What do folks use their microwave for or does no one here have one? :-)

We have a microwave but it's hardly ever used. We could manage
perfectly well without it.

Steve

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[Phil Cook]

On 13/05/2013 13:35, S Viemeister wrote:

> I do rice in the MC, instead of on the hob or in a separate
> space-hogging appliance.
>
> It's good for hot chocolate done in the mug, so no pan to wash.
>
> Porridge can be cooked in its bowl - no pan to wash.

Conversely it can be eaten from the pan, no bowl to wash. :-)
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[S Viemeister]

Leaning over the sink as you spoon it up...

[Phil C.]

On 13/05/2013 12:56, postmaster @ stejonda wrote:

> What do folks use their microwave for or does no one here have one? :-)
>

Defrosting in a hurry.
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[Malcolm Loades]

In message <$8SOjvIY...@stejonda.org.uk>, "postmaster @ stejonda"
<usenet...@stejonda.org.uk> writes

>What do folks use their microwave for or does no one here have one? :-)

Bringing red wine up to temperature - a few seconds on defrost.

Scrambling eggs - can be as good as any done in a pan but takes practice
and split second timing. Advantage is that bowl used to cook them is
far more easily washed up than a pan from the hob.

Cooking a cod loin from frozen in a few minutes (done in a bag). Ditto
veggies.

Defrosting stock from the freezer - you need to plan hours ahead if you
want a pint of stock but don't have a microwave.

None of this means it's used daily but when it is needed it's really
handy. I don't see it as wasted space since you can keep things in it as
if it were a small cupboard!

Malcolm

[Owain]

On May 13, 3:37 pm, Malcolm Loades wrote:
> Defrosting stock from the freezer - you need to plan hours ahead if you
> want a pint of stock but don't have a microwave.

Defrosting *anything* from the freezer - saves planning ahead and/or
wasting food
Porridge
Milky drinks before bedtime
Warming a pie or sausage roll - yes I know pastry goes soggy but it's
still something quick and hot
Warming bottles of sauce etc to get more out of the bottle

A microwave isn't essential but it is a great convenience.

Owain

[postmaster @ stejonda]

In message <kN-dnd5WO4zybg3M...@bt.com>, Phil C.
<phil...@fsmail.net> writes

>On 13/05/2013 12:56, postmaster @ stejonda wrote:
>
>> What do folks use their microwave for or does no one here have one? :-)
>>
>Defrosting in a hurry.

My experience of many models is that even on the defrost setting or
lowest setting the outside inevitably gets warm in the process. That's
why I'm more than happy to regain the habit of putting things to defrost
in the fridge overnight. And that saves a teeny bit of electricity too
as the fridge doesn't have to work quite as hard.

[postmaster @ stejonda]

In message <Eou$CbFTqP...@news.posting>, Malcolm Loades
<dev...@loades.eu> writes

>In message <$8SOjvIY...@stejonda.org.uk>, "postmaster @ stejonda"
><usenet...@stejonda.org.uk> writes
>
>>What do folks use their microwave for or does no one here have one? :-)
>
>Bringing red wine up to temperature - a few seconds on defrost.

Eeeeek, what does that do to the wine??? I prefer to hug the bottle. :)

>
>Scrambling eggs - can be as good as any done in a pan but takes
>practice and split second timing. Advantage is that bowl used to cook
>them is far more easily washed up than a pan from the hob.

It's the split second timing on something that's behind a door that I've
rather gone off of. Scrambling eggs in a pan gently to creaminess leaves
next to nothing in the pan that you don't want on the plate.

>
>Cooking a cod loin from frozen in a few minutes (done in a bag).

Ummmm, why would you do that?

> Ditto veggies.

I can see that veggies keep their colour better. Cooking anything in a
bag, (that is subsequently thrown away after one use?), just annoys me
with the issues of scalding when the bag is opened.

>
>Defrosting stock from the freezer - you need to plan hours ahead if you
>want a pint of stock but don't have a microwave.

Or freeze it as ice cube size lumps and it'll have lots of surface area
and defrost quite quickly in the pot as you're putting everything
together.

>
>None of this means it's used daily but when it is needed it's really
>handy. I don't see it as wasted space since you can keep things in it
>as if it were a small cupboard!

Yay, the cat for instance. :)
>
>Malcolm

I hadn't realised my views had developed so far! ;-)

[vi...@dinky.vm.bytemark.co.uk]

postmaster @ stejonda <usenet...@stejonda.org.uk> wrote:

> What do folks use their microwave for or does no one here have one? :-)

Daniel has a glass of warm milk before bed, and I always use the microwave
for that. Nick makes microwave popcorn when they watch a film (although he
prefers to do it in a pan, but he's too lazy)
I quite frequently defrost frozen things in the microwave then chuck them
in a non-stick frying pan to brown them off. :-)

[vi...@dinky.vm.bytemark.co.uk]

Ophelia <Oph...@elsinore.me.ku.invalid> wrote:
> Well mine is a combination (ie microwave/convection/grill) but if you are
> asking about purely microwaves I cook veggies in it. Especially green
> veggies (broccoli) and they keep their colour beautifully. I heat a lot of
> things up in it too:)

Oh yes, I do that too. My parents use an old plastic chinese food container
to do theirs, but I could never get that to work properly. I bought a 'posh'
pan shaped one with built in drainer from Pampered Chef for way more than it
is worth, but it works nicely

[vi...@dinky.vm.bytemark.co.uk]

Owain <spuorg...@gowanhill.com> wrote:
> Warming a pie or sausage roll - yes I know pastry goes soggy but it's
> still something quick and hot

I love soggy microwaved pastry. :-)
Having said that, I used to heat up pasties by pouring boiling water on them
from the kettle then thickening up with gravy powder. I was /such/ a student.

[Ophelia]

"Martin" <m...@address.invalid> wrote in message
news:0gl2p8h636sc0phj7...@4ax.com...

> You get a free meal with every Chinese food container that you buy :-)
>
> We still use our microwave combi oven.

I use ours a lot.
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[Kev]

On 13/05/2013 12:56, postmaster @ stejonda wrote:
>

> We've had our kitchen ripped out and refitted over the past few months
> and in doing so we didn't leave a specific space for the microwave.
> We're now thinking that we really have no use for it any more as we're
> both retired and have time to defrost/prepare/cook food properly nowadays.
>
> What do folks use their microwave for or does no one here have one? :-)
>

Softening the butter - much needed this winter
And melting chocolate when using it in a recipe

[Ophelia]

"Kev" <M...@here.com> wrote in message news:F8dkt.61210$9K4....@fx24.fr7...

>> What do folks use their microwave for or does no one here have one? :-)
>>
>
> Softening the butter - much needed this winter

Just about the only thing my Husband uses if for:) He is no cook:))


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[vi...@dinky.vm.bytemark.co.uk]

Martin <m...@address.invalid> wrote:
> You get a free meal with every Chinese food container that you buy :-)

Exactly! We have a cupboard full of them, I use them for lunch.
(I used 2 yesterday - big one full of noodles, and shallow one with
a sandwich and a couple of cherry tomatoes)

I splashed out and actually /bought/ some clip-lock ones which are
more secure, and allegedly you can use them for cereal-and-milk,but
I've used them about twice. I have to admit, I'm not confident to
put milk in them. (Especially not in my work back with laptop!)

[Jane Gillett]

In article <nibo05P8...@stejonda.org.uk>,

postmaster @ stejonda <usenet...@stejonda.org.uk> wrote:
> In message <Eou$CbFTqP...@news.posting>, Malcolm Loades
> <dev...@loades.eu> writes
> >In message <$8SOjvIY...@stejonda.org.uk>, "postmaster @ stejonda"
> ><usenet...@stejonda.org.uk> writes
> >
> >>What do folks use their microwave for or does no one here have one? :-)
> >

> >Scrambling eggs - can be as good as any done in a pan but takes
> >practice and split second timing. Advantage is that bowl used to cook
> >them is far more easily washed up than a pan from the hob.

> It's the split second timing on something that's behind a door that I've
> rather gone off of. Scrambling eggs in a pan gently to creaminess leaves
> next to nothing in the pan that you don't want on the plate.

MWs I have had have never cooked scrambled eggs to my liking. They've
always come out too rubbery for me, I like S.eggs to be creamy. For me, you
simply cannot leave them, they just need constant stirring and lifting off
the eat when you detect any "bottom-cooking". If you are going to do that -
opening the MW door, stirring, reclosing every few secs - there's nothing
to be gained from a MW.

> >
> >Cooking a cod loin from frozen in a few minutes (done in a bag).

> Ummmm, why would you do that?

It would probably cook the cod nicely but are you going to wash and reuse
the bag? Otherwise it is simply adding to the stack of plastic waste we
produce.

> > Ditto veggies.

> I can see that veggies keep their colour better. Cooking anything in a
> bag, (that is subsequently thrown away after one use?)

Please see above.

> , just annoys me
> with the issues of scalding when the bag is opened.
> >

Cheers
Jane

> >
> >Malcolm

> I hadn't realised my views had developed so far! ;-)

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[Malcolm Loades]

In message <534e2ad4e...@higherstert.co.uk>, Jane Gillett
<j.gi...@higherstert.co.uk> writes

>In article <nibo05P8...@stejonda.org.uk>,
> postmaster @ stejonda <usenet...@stejonda.org.uk> wrote:
>> In message <Eou$CbFTqP...@news.posting>, Malcolm Loades
>> <dev...@loades.eu> writes
>> >In message <$8SOjvIY...@stejonda.org.uk>, "postmaster @ stejonda"
>> ><usenet...@stejonda.org.uk> writes
>> >
>> >>What do folks use their microwave for or does no one here have one? :-)
>> >
>
>> >Scrambling eggs - can be as good as any done in a pan but takes
>> >practice and split second timing. Advantage is that bowl used to cook
>> >them is far more easily washed up than a pan from the hob.
>
>> It's the split second timing on something that's behind a door that I've
>> rather gone off of. Scrambling eggs in a pan gently to creaminess leaves
>> next to nothing in the pan that you don't want on the plate.
>
>MWs I have had have never cooked scrambled eggs to my liking. They've
>always come out too rubbery for me, I like S.eggs to be creamy. For me, you
>simply cannot leave them, they just need constant stirring and lifting off
>the eat when you detect any "bottom-cooking". If you are going to do that -
>opening the MW door, stirring, reclosing every few secs - there's nothing
>to be gained from a MW.

That's how I like them and that's how I produce them in the MW. Yes, I
stir and break up every 10 seconds when they begin to cook but that's no
different than stirring every 10 seconds while they're on the stove.

>> >Cooking a cod loin from frozen in a few minutes (done in a bag).
>
>> Ummmm, why would you do that?
>
>It would probably cook the cod nicely but are you going to wash and reuse
>the bag? Otherwise it is simply adding to the stack of plastic waste we
>produce.

I cook in the bag in which the frozen cod loin came! I can't see what
you're getting at here.

>> > Ditto veggies.
>
>> I can see that veggies keep their colour better. Cooking anything in a
>> bag, (that is subsequently thrown away after one use?)
>
>Please see above.

My veggies are in a bowl with cling film over the top. No bag involved!

Malcolm

[Jane Gillett]

In article <OaEduFCw...@news.posting>,

I stir constantly on the stove; never stop for anything. Have never managed
to get the interval between "stirs" in the MW right to produce the effect I
get on the hob so there doesn't seem any advantage

> >> >Cooking a cod loin from frozen in a few minutes (done in a bag).
> >
> >> Ummmm, why would you do that?
> >
> >It would probably cook the cod nicely but are you going to wash and reuse
> >the bag? Otherwise it is simply adding to the stack of plastic waste we
> >produce.

> I cook in the bag in which the frozen cod loin came! I can't see what
> you're getting at here.

IF you are reusing a bag that would otherwise be simply thrown away then,
no, I willingly withdraw the comment. My thoughts are triggered by the
massive amount of plastic we are producing and throwing away and which
doesn't degrade in a reasonable time.

For more info on the plastics floating in the Pacific - and starting in
the Atlantic - try googling "gyre plastic ocean" or some such. There have
been suggestions of trying to gather it together to make a floating island.
Sailing vessels have claimed to have been sailing through it for several
days at a time. Some has been dated back to the fifties, I gather.
Apparently it comes ashore in large amounts where the currents send it. You
may also be interested to try adding "hawaii" amd "albatross" to the
keywords.

Even "degradable" plastics (some plastic carriers) simply fall apart to
small pieces/particles at which point they are eaten by very small
organisms and enter the food chain that way without providing any food for
the organisms which eat them. Our local organic food supplier Riverford
uses "compostable" plastic containers but I found one recently in my
compost heap which I am pretty sure went on there last year and which
doesn't seem to have changed significantly.

There. Got that off my chest. Sorry, it wasn't aimed at you personally.
It's just that plastics is something we, as users, can do something about
and when I see film** of dead albatross chicks with guts full of plastic
bags, disposable razors, combs etc - died of starvation when parents fed
them with floating "food" - then I notice references to what seems to me
superfluous use of polythene bags.

Cheers
jane

**"Message in the waves" BBC film about Hawaii. Made by a BBC cameraman and
subsequently involved in most shops in Modbury, a town n S. Devon, stopping
giving/selling plastic carrier bags.

> >> > Ditto veggies.
> >
> >> I can see that veggies keep their colour better. Cooking anything in a
> >> bag, (that is subsequently thrown away after one use?)
> >
> >Please see above.

> My veggies are in a bowl with cling film over the top. No bag involved!

> Malcolm

[Jane Gillett]

In article <4s1ip8t0kfqfbsdka...@4ax.com>,
Martin <m...@address.invalid> wrote:
> On Sun, 19 May 2013 09:31:13 -0700 (PDT), Judith in France
> <judith...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> >X-No-Archive:Yes
> >On May 19, 8:25 am, Jane Gillett <j.gill...@higherstert.co.uk> wrote:
> >> In article <nibo05P8+SkRF...@stejonda.org.uk>,
> >> postmaster @ stejonda <usenet2013...@stejonda.org.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >> > In message <Eou$CbFTqPkRF...@news.posting>, Malcolm Loades
> >> > <devn...@loades.eu> writes
> >> > >In message <$8SOjvIYTNkRF...@stejonda.org.uk>, "postmaster @ stejonda"
> >> > ><usenet2013...@stejonda.org.uk> writes

> >> Jane Gillett : j.gill...@higherstert.co.uk : Totnes, Devon.
> >
> >Jane, I use a paper bag for my fish.

> We buy ours wrapped in traditional NoW newspaper.

Ah, traditionalists. Like it. Now when do you reckon H & S will ban it?

Cheers
jane

[Jane Gillett]

In article
<7800cf14-d418-4510...@cl8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,

Judith in France <judith...@googlemail.com> wrote:


> Jane, I use a paper bag for my fish.

Delighted to hear that. Thanks,
Jane

[Ophelia]

"Mike.. . . ." <junkfo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:snnjp8dh53fjku3ek...@4ax.com...
> Following a post by Judith in France

>
>>Jane, I use a paper bag for my fish.
>

> I use a very hot frying pan then into a very hot oven for a very short
> time.

So do I.
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[Ophelia]

"Martin" <m...@address.invalid> wrote in message

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> In the 1960s a Scarborough fish and chip shop owner moved to Lompoc in
> California and opened a f&c shop. He was banned from using newspapers
> on health grounds. He served f&c in locally printed copies of the
> Scarborough News.

Newsprint hasn't been allowed for a long time, except on the final wrap.
They use the paper it would have been printed on ifswim:)

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[Ophelia]

"Martin" <m...@address.invalid> wrote in message

> Gone are the days when the fish had a reversed image of a page from
> the Guardian or a Page 3 girl on it

Hard luck:))
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[Ophelia]

"Martin" <m...@address.invalid> wrote in message

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> On Mon, 20 May 2013 10:55:22 +0100, "Ophelia"
> <Oph...@elsinore.me.ku.invalid> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Martin" <m...@address.invalid> wrote in message
>>
>>> Gone are the days when the fish had a reversed image of a page from
>>> the Guardian or a Page 3 girl on it
>>
>>Hard luck:))
>

> There's still internet :-)

lol

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[Ophelia]

"Martin" <m...@address.invalid> wrote in message

news:7f0kp8l4vh7e4ielf...@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 20 May 2013 11:16:44 +0100, "Ophelia"

> <Oph...@elsinore.me.ku.invalid> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Martin" <m...@address.invalid> wrote in message
>>news:i0tjp8t4orka37vr7...@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 20 May 2013 10:55:22 +0100, "Ophelia"
>>> <Oph...@elsinore.me.ku.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Martin" <m...@address.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>> Gone are the days when the fish had a reversed image of a page from
>>>>> the Guardian or a Page 3 girl on it
>>>>
>>>>Hard luck:))
>>>
>>> There's still internet :-)
>>
>>lol
>

> Fish served on a tablet displaying a Page 3 girl isn't quite the same.

It isn't quite the same as what? Wassa tablet btw?

O who is obviously not educated in such matters ... innit!

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[Ophelia]

"Martin" <m...@address.invalid> wrote in message

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> On Mon, 20 May 2013 12:13:57 +0100, "Ophelia"

> <Oph...@elsinore.me.ku.invalid> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Martin" <m...@address.invalid> wrote in message
>>news:7f0kp8l4vh7e4ielf...@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 20 May 2013 11:16:44 +0100, "Ophelia"
>>> <Oph...@elsinore.me.ku.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Martin" <m...@address.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>news:i0tjp8t4orka37vr7...@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Mon, 20 May 2013 10:55:22 +0100, "Ophelia"
>>>>> <Oph...@elsinore.me.ku.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Martin" <m...@address.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gone are the days when the fish had a reversed image of a page from
>>>>>>> the Guardian or a Page 3 girl on it
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hard luck:))
>>>>>
>>>>> There's still internet :-)
>>>>
>>>>lol
>>>
>>> Fish served on a tablet displaying a Page 3 girl isn't quite the same.
>>
>>It isn't quite the same as what?
>

> A newspaper page out of the Sun.

I will take your word for that!

>> Wassa tablet btw?
>
> Thing *you* take when *you* have a headache? :-)

True:)

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[Ophelia]

"Mike.. . . ." <junkfo...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> Following a post by Ophelia

>
>>> A newspaper page out of the Sun.
>

> when it was served in newsprint, was it unsold copies or recycled sold
> copies? If the former you only transferred ink from the paper to your
> food as you ate it (and maybe rat pee and such like) if it was
> recycled papers I will mention some peoples habit of reading the paper
> in the toilet............

Hmm I didn't write the above ...

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[Ophelia]

"Martin" <m...@address.invalid> wrote in message

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> 'Cos your a lady, innit?

Yers!
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[Janet]

In article <534eb0f52...@higherstert.co.uk>,
j.gi...@higherstert.co.uk says...

> My thoughts are triggered by the
> massive amount of plastic we are producing and throwing away and which
> doesn't degrade in a reasonable time.

In my county plastics are recycled via the waste collection service.

Speaking of degradeable plastics, some years back our county had a
big drive to reduce waste collection and landfill, by encouraging home
composting. Every household that wanted, could get three free dalek
compost bins; which came with a kitchen compost bin and a roll of
biodegradeable plastic bag liners for the latter. We never used the
liners. The other days I spotted the virgin roll at the back of a
cupboard and took it out to use as dog waste bags.. only to find that
while resting for a couple of years in a dark dry pest free cupboard,
the whole thing had biodegraded into shreds :-)

Janet

[Jane Gillett]

In article <8l4kp8p52s6ohbrs4...@4ax.com>,
Mike.. . . . <junkfo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Following a post by Jane Gillett

> >IF you are reusing a bag that would otherwise be simply thrown away then,
> >no, I willingly withdraw the comment. My thoughts are triggered by the

> >massive amount of plastic we are producing and throwing away and which
> >doesn't degrade in a reasonable time.

> where we are its now collected for recycling, the EU imposed laws that
> result in fines if targets are not met, if the rest of the world does
> this the problem should be mitigated. I have a Patagonia fleece made
> from waste plastic.

Some collected now I'm pleased to see. Used for garden furniture;
"interior" furniture is not feasible, apparently, because of poisonous
products in case of fire.

I reject it when shopping whenever the product doesn't need it. Have asked
Riverford to repack to remove unnecessary foam tray; also asked a stall in
WI MArket to remove some layers from a heavily packed item - the staff
actually thanked me, said they had objected to the level of packing but
their superiors had taken no notice! Yes, the spare packing is still the
same plastic waste but it helps to get the message to those in charge.

What other recycling do people see?

[Jane Gillett]

In article <MPG.2c04a1905...@news.individual.net>,

Hadn't heard of that but it is a nice example of a good intention -
degradable plastics - being ruined by unforseen circumstances.

SOme years back British Gas were making some tests on gas pipes which
appeared to been degraded biologically, the context at the time being
underground gas pipes. One shudders to think of a strain of bugs evolving
to attack some of our very important plastic uses - pipes, electrical
insulation, medical uses for instance.

Jane

> Janet

[Jane Gillett]

In article <ut4kp8t83c8n79kl3...@4ax.com>,

Mike.. . . . <junkfo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Following a post by Jane Gillett

> >> We buy ours wrapped in traditional NoW newspaper.
> >
> >Ah, traditionalists. Like it. Now when do you reckon H & S will ban it?

> about 20 years ago, do you seriously want ink all over your fish? Do
> you think *any* fish and chips comes wrapped in newsprint anywhere in
> Europe?

Not really; it was just a throwaway comment.
Jane

[vi...@dinky.vm.bytemark.co.uk]

Janet <h...@nowhere.co.uk> wrote:
> cupboard and took it out to use as dog waste bags.. only to find that
> while resting for a couple of years in a dark dry pest free cupboard,
> the whole thing had biodegraded into shreds :-)

Interesting. I thought they only did that if they were in the light.
Although my experience is carrier bags. So many things put into carrier
bags then months later I pick them up and they are shredded! :-(

[vi...@dinky.vm.bytemark.co.uk]

Martin <m...@address.invalid> wrote:
>>Interesting. I thought they only did that if they were in the light.
>>Although my experience is carrier bags. So many things put into carrier
>>bags then months later I pick them up and they are shredded! :-(
>

> On More4 in Four in a bed one of the contestants ona boat trip used a
> Morrison's carrier bag as a hood to keep the spray off his hair

I've seen people at football matches using carrier bags during unexpected
downpours in uncovered stands before. It was particularly fun watching
this from covered stands. :-D

[Ophelia]

<vi...@dinky.vm.bytemark.co.uk> wrote in message
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I've seen that up here. They fold the bags up very neatly so they do look
like hats:))

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[David Horne]

Martin <m...@address.invalid> wrote:

> I've seen people wearing bin liners.

So have fashion writers.

D

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[Thank you (TY)]

Malcolm Loades <dev...@loades.eu> wrote in
news:OaEduFCw...@news.posting:

>
> My veggies are in a bowl with cling film over the top. No bag
> involved!
>
> Malcolm

I used to do it that way but I've recently discovered Birds Eye 'Single
Steamers' and they are a godsend for someone living alone and is finding
food prep more and more difficult. There are only two varieties available
from my usual source but according to the BE site they do more and I hope
my supplier eventually stocks them.
Now to cut off at the pass ... :)
Yes, I know I should use fresh. Think of a person now living alone,
preparing a single portion of fresh veg every day then cooking it by
whatever means. These come in packs of four single servings, no need to
even pierce the bags and BE says microwave for 3 mins. I do 2.5 mins.I find
my appetite diminishing with age and now I go for a local supply of small
quantities of good quality fresh meat cooked as I like it, with the
addition of frozen veg, oven chips or even some of those prepared chilled
vegetables and potatoes. I reckon the cost is not too great when other
factors such as fuel for cooking fresh veg and possible waste are taken
into account. And no pans to wash!


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[vi...@dinky.vm.bytemark.co.uk]

"Thank you (TY)" <now...@nonsuch.org> wrote:
> I used to do it that way but I've recently discovered Birds Eye 'Single
> Steamers' and they are a godsend for someone living alone and is finding
> food prep more and more difficult. There are only two varieties available
> from my usual source but according to the BE site they do more and I hope
> my supplier eventually stocks them.

Is your normal supplier one of the major chain supermarkets? If so you
can have a word with their customer services desk and they will normally
bring things in and give them a shot if they get a couple of requests

[Thank you]

Yes, Asda atm. Thanks for the tip I'll give it a try.

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[allegoricus]

On Sun, 19 May 2013 13:30:40 +0100, Malcolm Loades <dev...@loades.eu>
wrote:

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>My veggies are in a bowl with cling film over the top. No bag involved!

Pyrex casseroles work fine.

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[S Viemeister]

On 5/28/2013 3:51 PM, allegoricus wrote:
> On Sun, 19 May 2013 13:30:40 +0100, Malcolm Loades <dev...@loades.eu>

>> My veggies are in a bowl with cling film over the top. No bag involved!
>
> Pyrex casseroles work fine.
>

+1

[Ophelia]

"S Viemeister" <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
news:b0komp...@mid.individual.net...

+2

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