Web Images Videos Maps News Shopping Gmail more »
Recently Visited Groups | Help | Sign in
Google Groups Home
Message from discussion Power Save Corp or KVAR Unit? Who will win the fight to reduce your electric bill?
The group you are posting to is a Usenet group. Messages posted to this group will make your email address visible to anyone on the Internet.
Your reply message has not been sent.
Your post was successful
 
From:
To:
Cc:
Followup To:
Add Cc | Add Followup-to | Edit Subject
Subject:
Validation:
For verification purposes please type the characters you see in the picture below or the numbers you hear by clicking the accessibility icon. Listen and type the numbers you hear
 
Marc Brett  
View profile  
 More options Dec 1 2006, 9:40 am
Newsgroups: uk.environment
From: Marc Brett <m...@fordson.demon.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:40:16 +0000
Local: Fri, Dec 1 2006 9:40 am
Subject: Re: Power Save Corp or KVAR Unit? Who will win the fight to reduce your electric bill?
On 30 Nov 2006 18:52:51 -0800, "poun...@energyboxx.com" <poun...@energyboxx.com>
wrote:

>Power Save Corp has a product that is claiming that it is based on
>patent # 5,440,442 and that their product the Power Save 1200 has been
>tested by Nasa. The facts are this, the KVAR Unit is not only based on
>patent #5,440,442  (which by the way is patented by Gregory Taylor) who

>also owns KVAR Energy Savings Inc and the KVAR Unit.The KVAR Unit is
>indeed the original ,that everyone's been talking about ,and what the
>others so desperately wish they can conceive. The Kvar Unit is
>distributed by Energy Boxx. The KVAR Unit has a five year warranty and
>has a life span of 25 years.The KVAR Unit reduces your electrical
>consumption by at least 10% and as much as 25%.The KVAR Unit comes in
>single and 3 phase units 22-480 volts.
>The KVAR Unit also surge protects your entire home agaist voltage
>fluctuations and electrical storms.The KVAR Unit is UL Listed and CSA
>approved, also the product is Energy Star
>compliant.Please visit www.energyboxx.com for furhter information and
>video news
>reels of some of the coverage the KVAR Unit has been receiving.

To quote another poster:

1. As SQLit said major effect of increasing the power factor is only of
economic advantage if the utility meters the power factor and charges
for it. Not likely on residential.

2. Propaganda on reducing residential killo-Watt-hours (power) by about
12% IMHO is bullshit. With low power factor the Volt-Amps may be reduced
but not the power since power takes into account the phase angle between
voltage and current.

3. With a low power factor there would be some reduction in current and
thus some reduction in heat loss in wire. This would be quite low in
residential. Connecting the device at the service, as shown, will lower
the losses in the wires from the meter to the service, as short run of
large wire.

4. From what I saw in the patent application, conviently supplied by
Roger, the amount of correction is manually set with switches. If you
have one motor running and correct the power factor, the correction will
be wrong if you turn off the motor or add another motor (or turn off 1st
motor and turn on 2nd motor). Over correcting (when the 'motor' is
turned off) is also a problem.

bud--

Looks kike more snake oil.  If you want lower bills, you need to do it the hard
way -- more efficient appliances and liberal use of the OFF switch.


    Reply to author    Forward  
You must Sign in before you can post messages.
To post a message you must first join this group.
Please update your nickname on the subscription settings page before posting.
You do not have the permission required to post.

Create a group - Google Groups - Google Home - Terms of Service - Privacy Policy
©2009 Google