Why home school, why standard?
SafeEarthSafeChild
pretty good public schools around us but we currently have our little man at
home and are wondering about whether or not we will want to send our Little
Man out, keep him in, or send him to a private school (I went to a Catholic
school for years).
Any thoughts?
Scott Bryce
Nobody can make that decision for you. The first thing you will want to
consider is why you are homeschooling him. Can you accomplish your
purpose better by keeping him home than by sending him to public or
private school?
Michael S. Morris
Tuesday, the 14th of August, 2007
Any thoughts?
I went to public schools for years. Made lots of A's.
I was valedictorian of a large high school class. My wife and
chose to homeschool because we thought we could do
transfinitely better teaching our own children than the
public schools could ever do. As measured by subjects covered,
books read, and with a smaller amount of time per day spent
on "school" by our children. Our children are now 17, 15, and
8. The 17-year-old finished calculus in math two years ago,
has read probably 30 times more books than I ever had to read
for school, can read novels in Spanish, and is taking
ordinary college classes in writing and Japanese at present.
So, *our* reason for homeschooling is that we don't think that
there is any such thing as "pretty good public schools". Or
private schools for that matter.
But I also can report after 12 years of homeschooling our children
that it has made the life of our family simply transfinitely better
than ever was my experience of family life growing up in the 60s
and 70s, where school ate up 40-50 hours a week, and "family
time" was sitting around a television set.
I wouldn't recommend homeschooling as an option, though, to
anyone who isn't absolutely committed to doing it.
Mike Morris
(msmo...@netdirect.net)
Michelle S. Morris
Fundamentalist homeskoolas don't have thoughts.
--
"We're Christians! We're not supposed to think!" Fanny Wype ("Nudist Colony
Of The Dead")
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HOMESKOOL MORONS USING THE HOMESCHOOL CRAP BELOW TO INDOCRINATE THEIR
CHILDREN IS A FORM OF CHILD ABUSE.
>Bob Jones University Press
BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! ROTFLMAO!!!!!!
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BJU Accreditation Through TRACS
Bob Jones University is a member of the Transnational Association of
Christian Colleges and Schools (TRACS) [PO Box 328, Forest, VA 24551;
Telephone: 434.525.9539; email: i...@tracs.org] having been awarded
Candidate status as a Category IV institution by the TRACS Accreditation
Commission on April 6, 2005; this status is effective for a period of five
years.
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This actually doesn't mean much. Bob Jones Uni is a fundamentalist
creationist ratbag factory. I quote from their associated site
.... http://www.itib.org/
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Testimony To An Infallable Bible
The church today is contending against an enemy-one cloaked in the guise of
truth and relevance. Ecumenical alliances sound the siren song of unity,
which in itself is desirable and biblical but frequently sacrifices biblical
fidelity to reach that end. The emotionalism so prevalent in modern churches
produces much heat but all too often neglects the light of God's Word. The
secular world, with its seductive refrain of "tolerance" presents itself as
compatible with biblical Christianity. The resurgence of Neo-Paganism and
New Age ideologies promises greater peace and power, yet only echoes the
age-old hollow promises Satan made to Eve. Now, more than ever, it is time
to proclaim the profound differences between the counterfeits and the
eternal truth of God's Word. This is what the International Testimony to an
Infallible Bible (or "ITIB") is all about.
The ITIB started a number of years ago when several men were having dinner
together while attending Bible Conference at Bob Jones University. In the
course of the conversation, someone mentioned how timely it would be to have
a congress which Fundamentalists from around the world could attend to
receive inspiration, instruction, encouragement, and fellowship. A committee
was formed, and in June of 1976 the World Congress of Fundamentalists was
held in Edinburgh, Scotland. It was intended to be a one-time affair;
however, those who attended were so encouraged and blessed they requested
that another such meeting be held.
Since that date over sixteen congresses (whether global or regional in
scope) have been sponsored by the ITIB. The global or World Congresses are
held about every ten years, while regional congresses are held every year or
two in different locations around the globe.
The ITIB is co-chaired by Dr. Ian Paisley (member of the European
Parliament; Pastor of Martyrs Memorial Free Presbyterian Church, Belfast,
Northern Ireland) and Dr. Bob Jones III (President of Bob Jones University,
Greenville, South Carolina, USA). The ITIB Committee is comprised of both
ministers and laymen who meet occasionally to help guide the direction of
the ITIB. Encouraging fidelity to the Bible is their overriding concern for
the ITIB.
It is amazing how far error, posing as truth, has advanced, taking control
of so many churches and Christian institutions throughout the world. It is
our prayer that the truth of biblical separation from all error, when
understood and practiced by the pastors around the world, will reveal the
dark and dangerous situation in which the church finds itself today.
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BWHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! What ratbaggery!!!!!!
There are many such "universities" in the USA and their "degrees" have no
worth in Australia whatsoever!
>A Beka Book
BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! ROTFLMAO!!!!!!
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http://chronicle.com/weekly/v52/i29/29a04001.htm
From the issue dated March 24, 2006
A College That's Strictly Different
Secretive Pensacola Christian controls student life with tough regulations
and unwritten rules
By THOMAS BARTLETT
Pensacola, Fla.
...
Pensacola Christian College prides itself on being different, not just from
secular colleges, but from fellow Christian ones, too.
.....
Lisa Morris was walking to class with her boyfriend last October when
something happened. At first Ms. Morris, a sophomore music major, is
reluctant to divulge the details. Eventually, however, the truth comes out:
He patted her behind.
Someone who witnessed the incident reported Ms. Morris and her boyfriend. At
Pensacola any physical contact between members of the opposite sex is
forbidden. (Members of the same sex may touch, although the college condemns
homosexuality.) The forbidden contact includes shaking hands and definitely
includes patting behinds. Both students were expelled.
....
Even couples who are not talking or touching can be reprimanded. Sabrina
Poirier, a student at Pensacola who withdrew in 1997, was disciplined for
what is known on the campus as "optical intercourse" - staring too intently
into the eyes of a member of the opposite sex. This is also referred to as
"making eye babies." While the rule does not appear in written form, most
students interviewed for this article were familiar with the concept.
.....
There are plenty of other ways to run afoul of the rules. Last spring
Timothy Dow was caught playing the video game Halo 2. Such games are banned
by the college. Movies are also forbidden, including those rated G. Music is
restricted to classical or approved Christian ("contemporary Christian"
artists are deemed too worldly). Students are allowed to watch television
news at 6 o'clock, but that's it. The TVs are controlled by college
employees, who flip a switch to black out the commercials, lest students see
anything inappropriate.
In the library, books and magazines are censored. One student says she saw a
pair of black-marker boxer shorts on a photograph of Michelangelo's David.
Any books that students wish to read that are not in the library must first
be approved by administrators. Those containing references to "magic," for
instance, are normally rejected. The rule book specifically prohibits
"fleshly magazines and books."
......
Along with the college, Mr. Horton founded A Beka Books, acknowledged as the
largest Christian-textbook company in the world. A Beka sells textbooks to
more than 10,000 Christian schools across the country, offering a complete
curriculum for kindergarten through 12th grade. It has also won a big share
of the lucrative home-school market.
The company brings in about $70-million in annual revenue and is valued at
$280-million, according to Dun & Bradstreet. A sizable chunk of that revenue
goes to support the college, which does not come close to breaking even on
its own. According to its 2003 tax filing, the university collected
$20-million in tuition and fees and $3-million from contributions. The
filing attributes $15-million in income to "royalties," presumably from A
Beka.
In the mid-90s, A Beka paid nearly $50-million in back taxes after the
Internal Revenue Service ruled that it should have been classified as a
for-profit entity. The college itself remains nonprofit.
Revenue from A Beka helps keep costs extremely low. Students pay $6,000 a
year for tuition, room, and board. That's about a third or a quarter of what
most other Christian colleges cost. When asked what other colleges they
considered, Pensacola students often mention Bob Jones, Cedarville
University, Northland Baptist Bible College, and Abilene Christian
University. Cost is usually cited as the deciding factor.
Just as the textbook company helps support the college, the college helps
support the textbook company. Many of Pensacola's students work for A Beka,
operating binding equipment, packing books into boxes, loading those boxes
onto forklifts. Some students complain about the working conditions; others
say it's a good deal. For women, A Beka is usually the only employment
option because they are not allowed to hold off-campus jobs. Or leave the
campus alone, for that matter.
In the world of Christian colleges, Pensacola is an oddity. It is not a
member of the Council for Christian Colleges and Universities. It has little
to do with other institutions. Several administrators at other Christian
colleges declined to discuss Pensacola on the record for fear of seeming
critical. One said he did not know enough to speak knowledgeably because
Pensacola keeps mostly to itself.
While not wanting to criticize Pensacola, Carl A. Ruby, vice president for
student life at Cedarville, in Ohio, emphasizes that his university doesn't
take the "bad-kid approach" to discipline. "On major issues of Christian
doctrine, we are probably always on the same page," he writes in an e-mail
message. "In terms of living out our faith on a daily basis, significant
differences emerge."
....
Creationism is taught in science courses.
....
Several previously unaccredited Christian colleges, like Bob Jones, have
recently become candidates for accreditation. Pensacola, however, has shown
no interest in outside approval of any kind. Nor does it advertise its
unaccredited status. A search of the Web site turns up no mention of
accreditation. It is not mentioned in the college's viewbook either, which
dedicates four pages to sports activities and two to campus facilities.
....
Lack of accreditation has been a problem for Amy Brown, too. She graduated
from Pensacola in 2003 with a degree in early-childhood education. But
because the college is not accredited, she cannot teach in public schools,
she says. She had no idea what accreditation was before enrolling at
Pensacola. "I never tried to transfer," she writes in an e-mail message,
"because I had friends that did and ended up with all of their credits as
electives," meaning that they had to retake required courses.
Mr. Ghobrial, the student from Egypt who doesn't mind the rules, wants to
attend dental school. His first choice, West Virginia University, has
already said it would not consider his application, because Pensacola is not
accredited. "I'm hoping they change their minds," he says.
Many Christian colleges do accept Pensacola's credits, as do some secular
institutions. Several former students say they have had no difficulty
transferring credits or applying for jobs. But others have. And as more
states crack down on degrees from unaccredited colleges, it may get even
tougher for Pensacola graduates.
....
http://chronicle.com
Section: Students
Volume 52, Issue 29, Page A40
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Robinson Self-Teaching Home School Curriculum
- TOTALLY dependent upon good literacy skills to begin with.
- Lock-step without any deviation from the program.
- 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica used - outdated and too complicated for
younger readers
- 1913 Webster's Dictionary used - outdated and too complicated for younger
readers
- Science texts instead of hands on experimentation and disvcovery learning.
- Original King James Version of the Bible - outdated and language too
complicated for any child of any age
-Phonics only without the addition of whole language approach, etc.
- Claims to be "self-teaching" but pupils require interaction with at least
one other person - a teacher.
This "box:" is the lazy person's way of homeschooling and not worth the
money you will outlay for it.
Visit the utter shite at
http://www.robinsoncurriculum.com/view/rc/s31p45.htm
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HOMESKOOL MORONS USING THE ABOVE CRAP TO INDOCRINATE THEIR CHILDREN IS A
FORM OF CHILD ABUSE.
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Wdnesday, the 15th of August, 2007
Mark Tindall wrote, under one of his many
false names:
Fundamentalist homeskoolas don't have thoughts.
This kind of thing, too, Mark, is not funny and is a
lie. In the first place, those who have responded about
homeschooling so far, at least a couple of them, aren't
fundamentalist. Second, you know damn well that even the
fundamentalists around here have thoughts.
Mike Morris
(msmo...@netdirect.net)
tj
choose the course of action that you believe will take your child to those
results. Despite what you will hear from some of the more bigoted
homeshoolers here, any of the 3 major forms of education can result in a
great education.
Keep in mind, also, what good teachers have realized for generations. You
are not locked into any decision. Change or modify any decision if it is
not achieving the results you want. You also don't have to choose
exclusively one form of education over another. Mix and match as you see
fit. My parents sent me to Lutheran kindergarten (we're not Lutheran, btw)
and then to public schools after that. In HS, I took classes at a private
university at the same time as I attended a public high school. In some
areas, you can homeschool and attend public school part-time (although you
may have to ask really nicely, as the school may not receive funding for the
additional student).
Also, depending on where you live, you may have access to public resources
even if you homeschool or attend private schools. In IL, we have regional
education libraries, chock full of educational materials that can be checked
out by public/private/homeschooling teachers.
In my opinion, you would be best served by the mix and match method. It
allows you to pick those elements from each system that best meet your
needs. Of course, it takes more work on your part, but that is part and
parcel of good teaching in a standards based teaching situation.
Hope this helps.
tj
"SafeEarthSafeChild" <safeearth...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Michelle S. Morris
>> Fundamentalist homeskoolas don't have thoughts.
>
> This kind of thing ... is not funny
I know!
Fundamentalist homeskoolas should start using their God-given brains.
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"Fit Bodies, Fat Minds: Why Evangelicals don't think and what to do about
it" ( Baker Books; Grand Rapids:1994) - Os Guiness
p. 9 -11
...a leading problem in American evangelicalism - anti-intellectualism.
Anti-intellectualism is a disposition to discount the importance of truth
and the life of the mind. ...evangelicals have toned up their bodies and
dumbed down their minds. The result! Many suffer from a modern form of
what the ancient stoics called "mental hedonism" - having fit bodies but fat
minds. ...At root, evangelical anti-intellectualism is both a scandal and a
sin. It is a scandal in the sense of being an offense and a stumbling block
that needlessly hinders serious people from considering the Christian faith
and coming to Christ. It is a sin because it is a refusal, contrary to the
first of Jesus' two great commandments, to love the Lord our God with all
our minds.
p. 12
Bertrand Russell mocked, "Most Christians would rather die than think - in
fact they do!"
p. 14
Critics of evangelical anti-intellectualism commonly quote four great facts
of our shame. First, no general evangelical magazine of serious ideas
exists. Second, no cogent case for the Christian faith has been written by
a living evangelical that can confidently be given to a serious
non-Christian
reader. Third, there is no evangelical university worthy of the name that
has a program of graduate studies on par with other major universities.
Fourth, there has been no generally accepted, constructive formulation of an
evangelical public philosophy for the last hundred years.
p. 15
Not surprisingly the disarray and frustration is deepest in evangelicals who
think - whether they do so for a living, such as academics, or those who do
so for the love of it, such as artists.
p. 16
Those more educated now tend to be significantly less religious, those more
religious tend to be significantly less educated.
p. 17 - 18
... evangelicals have relied upon populist strengths and rhetoric rather
than addressing the gatekeepers of modern society ... evangelicals have
chosen to rely on a rhetoric of protest, pronouncement, and picketing rather
than persuasion.
p. 25
... slow retreat from the Christian mind to the creation of a "ghost mind."
.... slow rise of a mass mind and the creation of an "idiot culture."
p. 30
The false antagonisms of that sort of either / or thinking have become a
standard feature of evangelicalism ... In terms of a Christian mind, we
evangelicals characteristically pit "heart" versus "head" and opt for the
heart as the more spiritual choice.
p. 31
... "heart" in the Bible is more a matter of understanding than sentiment -
so "heart" versus "head' is a false choice.
p. 32
John Wesley , the founder of Methodism, had said, "It is a fundamental
principal with us that to renounce reason is to renounce religion, that
religion and reason go hand in hand, that irrational religion is false
religion."
p. 62
...evangelical artists - and poets, scriptwriters, sculptors, dancers and
actors - as the least understood and most alienated single group of people
in the evangelical churches.
p. 72
... the inability to read anything but the shallowest texts is equally
widespread. ... the body of Christ often gives the appearance of the
uncontrolled movements of a paraplegic.
p. 93
The result is a form of the faith that is Christian Lite.
p. 116
... Christian discourse is beginning to take on some of the characteristics
of tabloid and talk-show truth. For a start, we have our own frenzied
circulation of myths and "psycho-facts" - beliefs hat become true because we
feel they are true even if they are not; or beliefs that are not supported
by hard evidence but are taken as real because their constant repetition
changes the way we view life.
p. 132
Let My people think.
p. 140
... "All truth is God's truth," so we can welcome truth wherever it is to be
found, even among pagans. But equally, "all that is not of God is not of
truth" and therefore not for us, even if it is we who believe it devoutly.
p. 143
A fourth misconception concerns the idea that thinking Christianly is a form
of uniformity - in other words, that if we all think Christianly we will all
think the same way. When this happens, the goal of thinking Christianly
collapses into a frantic search for the one particular correct way of
thinking or acting. The result is he fallacy of "particularism", the
uniformity of a particular "Christianly Correct" way of thinking.
...[particularism] denies two requirements of thinking Christianly that
oppose all uniformity: the importance of diversity and the fact of human
fallibility.
p. 143 - 144
For another thing, applying the idea of uniformity is disastrous because it
leads inevitably to legalism and judgementalism. There is only a short and
easy step from "This is the Christian way" to "There is only one Christian
way" to "Anything different from this Christian way is not Christian" to
"All those who differ from my way are not Christians".
p. 151
One of the greatest sadnesses of a thinking evangelical is knowing the
thousands who have left, and are still leaving, evangelicalism because
evangelicals do not think.
p. 152
Dorothy L Sayers ... "The cultivation of religious emotion without
philosophic basis," she explained, "is thoroughly pernicious." ...One of the
great legacies for those of us who knew the late Francis Schaeffer was that
the truth mattered to him. He took God seriously, he took people seriously
and he took truth seriously. Friederich Nietsche's aphorism could be
applied to him, "All truths are bloody truths to me."
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Stephanie
(newbie here)
I can tell you my reasons/goals:
- desire for education that is fun, challenging and engaging with a hope of
fostering a life long love of learning.
- desire for an education that is appropriate to my children's learning
needs, not driven the arbitraryu grouping of age. desire to work at his
level; moving faster in strength to engender enthusiam rather than bordom,
moving slower in harder areas to engender results and positive pride in
accomplishment rather than guilt and frustration of lower achievement that
was unattainable.
- desire to speak to multiple learning styles, with a stronger presentation
in the favored learning style.
- desire to offer choice and democracy as well as responsibility with and
for learning.
- desire to have a more appropriate socialization than I see in our public
school here with grouping based on common interest and understanding rather
than age, with positive learning of problem solving skills rather than with
punitive response to rule breaking.
- desire to spend time with my children
- desire to try and foster a love of things like beans and tuna fish. Ok
that last one is a joke. But we sure wont be eating steaks too often
anymore!
- de
Stephanie
"Michael S. Morris" <msmo...@netdirect.net> wrote in message
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I am not even Christian or anything-ian, let alone fundamentalist!
tj
tj
"Stephanie" <ha...@noway.net> wrote in message
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Bruce Atchison - author
I haven't had direct experience but I'd say that home schooling is the best
way to educate children. Private day schools are good too, from what I've
heard, but I'd avoid boarding schools if I was you. I was exiled 500 miles
to one for 6 years and I'm still recovering from the experience.
Respectfully,
Bruce Atchison - author of Deliverance from Jericho (Six Years in a Blind
School) and When a Man Loves a Rabbit ((Learning and Living With Bunnies).
http://www.bookstream.biz/cgi-bin/bookstream/bookstore.cgi?overlord=Details&store_id=132
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Marty Carts
> Greetings;
> I haven't had direct experience but I'd say that home schooling is the best
> way to educate children. Private day schools are good too, from what I've
> heard, but I'd avoid boarding schools if I was you. I was exiled 500 miles
> to one for 6 years and I'm still recovering from the experience.
Greetings, Bruce.
I have had direct experience, in the way of being
a father of three hsed children since birth (their
birth, not mine). For us hsing is clearly the best
education in the academics and other areas (world
consciousness, morality, religion, etc.) I strongly
suspect most others would find this true for
themselves too, if they were able to hs, and willing
to trust that they could.
Like you, my school upbringing (public school in my
case) didn't leave me with a desire to do the same
to my own children. We decided to hs before our
first was born.
This newsgroup (misc.education.home-school.christian)
is pretty quiet since a troll essentially defecated
upon it continuously for a few years. We moved to
a web format location, to which you're welcome,
tho it's fairly quiet too. Most of us are fairly
old hsers and there's less specifically hs-related
stuff to talk about between us. But give us a try:
http://www.meh-sc.org ______________________Marty
MEHSC Moberator
The ORIGINAL and best!
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misc.education.home-school.christian FAQ (Revised 2007)
DEFINITIONS
Homeskool
1 - Miseducation / brainwashing done by illiterate parents, usually to
"protect" their children from "evil, secular" society.
2. - The alternative for those who are so deranged that they don't want an
education for their kids.
2. - An option for fundamentalist Trew Kristyun parents who are too poor for
private school.
MEHSC
1. misc.education.home-school.christian
2. misedjakayshun - homeskool -trew kristyun
3. The http://www.meh-sc.org/ Ghost Town
1. Sanctuary for brain-dead trew homeskoolas.
2. Gated trew homeskoola grey hiding place free from the challenge of
professional educators who pose questions that homeskoolas can't answer.
3. Brandon Staggs' Trew Homeskoola Lunatic Asylum For the Educationally
Demented, Intellectually Challenged And Fundamentally Fecked
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RULES
There are only three rules:
RULE 1 - REPEATED AD HOMINEM ATTACKS AND CHARACTER ASSASSINATION
If you have any intelligence or a different opinion to the brain-dead
homeskoolas at misc.education.home-school.christian or
(http://www.meh-sc.org/) then you will be called called "troll"
etc(especially if you have any recognised teaching qualification). An
irrational inquisition / witch hunt will then be followed by crucifixion
/stoning / burning at the stake.
RULE 2 - QUESTIONING, THINKING AND CRITICAL REFLECTION BANNED
Trew homeskoolas are not capable of doing any of these mortal homeskool
sins. If you ask questions then you looking for information to discredit
homeskoolun. Forcing them to think and to critixcally refelcet in what they
are doing is being worldly. Try any of these things and you can't be a "Trew
Kristyun".
RULE 3 - THOU SHALT SUPPORT STEVE WINTER
Trew Homeskoolas luv "pasta" Steve Winter ....
Examples:
"Snapper" wrote:
> "Pastor Steve Winter" wrote
>>I put some of our music videos on the web.
>> Christian homeschoolers in action.
>> http://winterhaven.zippyvideos.com
>> Pastor Winter
> Cool as! I've listened to a couple, my only negative comment is that I
> can't seem to download them .... they play great on-line but I'd still
> rather be able to listen off-line.
&
"Dalene Barnes" wrote:
> Steve, thanks for taking the time to posts the links!
&
"Jayne Kulikauskas" wrote:
> Pastor Winter. His posts on homeschooling are quite
> welcome and appropriate here.
&
"Wayne D. Schissler" schiss...@enter.net wrote:
> civil and lucid. Here, Steve has been both.
> I concure with Jayne's opinion.
&
"Marty Carts" wrote:
> Steve Winter is *not* an unmitigated pain.
THAT explains why the people at http://www.meh-sc.org/ and formerly on
misc.education.home-school.christian are SO WEIRD!!!!
Steve Winter FAQ
http://users.rcn.com/sadams.enteract/winfaq.html
Things you may need to know if you have dealings with Steve Winter.
The Adams - Steve Winter FAQ
http://adamsemail.net/winter/winfaq.html
The Official Steve Winter FAQ contains important information to understand
why Steve Winter is such a problem on the net.
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FAQ answered by the NG members:
* Will I find anything of worth regarding education on this NG that I don't
already know because I attended school once ...a long time ago?
No ... not really ...what's education???? ...we only homeskool ..."we don't
need no education, we don't need no thought control ...teacher, leave us
kids alone"... go away ... I'm playing with my kids!!! Me 'n Bubba jes'
learns 'em at home. Werks reel good!
* Will I have an intelligent logical ratrional conversation with any person
on this NG?
Nope ... now bugger off .... I'm playing with my kids!
* Is this NG plagued by Trew Kristyuns?
No ... "Trew Kristyuns" are not a plague ... just a very horrible disease
... let us show you how much we luv you ...really ... we just have to
collect the wood for the fire ... and the petrol for the fuel ... and the
rope to .... oh well ... you don't need to know about that right now ...now
bugger off ....I'm playing with my kids!
* Is his group friendly?
Yes, to our own kind ...unfortunately you are the Other .... an outsider ...
because of this you will be treated to our friendly "Trew Kristyun luv" (See
RULE 1) ... this is because you are inferior and the lowest of the low ...
only homeskoolas are able to access the wisdom of God .... only home
skoolers know everything in the universe about education ... and only home
skoolers can get their heads that far up
their arses ...so there!! ...now bugger off! ...go away! ...still got to do
more playing with my kids ...I mean more 'Trew Homeskoolun Ejakashun"
..... you STILL here? ...... bugger off! ... I'm off to perform more
witchdoctory and diy brain surgery
Surgery isn't something for professionals only. Anyone can do it. It's
just carving up meat.
Us DIY surgeons don't want any government interference with our surgery.
It's our kids we are operating on and we know what's best for the little
buggers. I own my kids so I can experiment on them as I wish. I especially
like experiments using electricty, bare wires and a power socket.
I went to hospital once so I know everything about DIY brain surgery. I've
also watched a lot of soap operas about hospitals. I've read several DIY
brain surgery books and even attended several DIY brain surgery seminars.
It's very easy to do brain surgery as it comes naturally to everyone.
Everyone is born with the ability to do brain surgery because everyone can
use a knife. I use a knife every day to cut up my own food and my kid's
food. That proves that I'm qualified to do DIY brain surgery.
Scalpel? I don't need a scapel. I've got a steak knife and its sharp
enough. If it doesn't cut through I can always use the chain saw.
Anaesthetic? That's just fancy professional doctor stuff. You don't need
it. You just hit the kid over the head with your steel reinforced KJV
bible. That knocks 'em out.
If you really know your child well you can just ask where it hurts, open up
their head, operate and stitch it back up with some cotton and a few safety
pins. It works just as good as that fancy medical professional stuff.
I don't need to assess or diagnose whether DIY brainsurgery is needed or
not. I like doing it and the kids turn out a whole lot better after I'm
finished. I just ask Junior "You got a headche, Junior?" or "Are you
thinking again?" and if Junior's head wobbles or Junior's head is a bit pale
I operate.
What's really neat is that you can use the leftovers for a family casserole
meal. The kids love it! Great big juicy brain blobs deep fried! Yummy!
Here we go!
Oops!
Made a mistake!
Better take them to a DIY brain surgery hospital.
Oops!
The DIY brain surgery hospital made a mistake!
Better send the kids to a real hospital with professional doctors who know
what they are doing.
Oops!
Too late!
The kids are dead.
Oh well ...
Time to make some more kids so I can continue my career as a DIY surgeon.
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THE REASON FOR http://www.meh-sc.org/:
In the past, the Usenet newsgroup misc.education.home-school.christian was a
dreadful place for anyone interested in education, Trew Kristyun homeskoolas
discussed sundry topics unrelated related to the educational practice of
home schooling and called professional educators "trolls".
As a result of the inability of these brain-dead Trew Kriustyun homeskoolas
to look at educational issues via reflective praxis and their refusal to
engage in educational debate, the meh-sc newsgroup became less and less
useful as a place for good information or discussion
These brain-dead Trew Kristyun homeskoolas desired an exclusive forum
without the challenge from professional educators who posed questions that
they could not answer.
Fundamentalist Brandon Staggs had the rights to the name and formed
http://www.meh-sc.org/:. Below is a critique of
http://www.brandonstaggs.com/biblical-reasons-to-home-school.html which is
typical of most Christian fundamentalist home schoolers' erroneous beliefs
on education ...mainly based on Old Testament proof verses.
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>Offered here are just a handful of verses from God's word
This is one of the reasons homeschoolers should be very careful! Home
schooling is dominated by rabid fundamentalists who do not value learning
for the sake of learning. Brandon thinks the bible is the "Word of God'
when in fact it is an ancient collection of books about people's experience
of God. If one reads all the bible it clearly states that Jesus is the Word
of God (John 1: 1) Such verses seem not to be read by literalists.
> There are hundreds of reasons to reject the usage of the government
> education system, including social, moral, academic, ethical, political,
> and "religious" reasons. For a Christian, especially a Christian who
> values the authority of Scripture, God's own words on the matter should
> settle >the issue.
This is much the same type of introduction that Christian School advocates
give for their system to be the "one and only Christian way" to educate
children. It is simply not true in any aspect whatsoever. This is an
unsubstantiated biased claim based on subjective opinion on bible proof
verses taken out of context.
The word "school" does not appear in either the Old or New Testament and
therefore the bible cannot be used to back any particular school system.
Early Christians sent their children to classical schools. Educational
concerns about the classical schools (primary or secondary) Christians sent
their children to was not an issue in any of the New Testament letters. The
letters also fail to recognise anything concerned with church as schooling.
As William Barclay correctly pointed out:
"The New Testament lays down no kind of curriculum of training for the
child; the New Testament knows nothing about religious education and nothing
about schools; for the New Testament is certain that the only training which
really matters is given within the home, and that there are no teachers so
effective for good and evil as parents." (William Barclay, Educational
Ideals in the Ancient World, Grand Rapids, Mich: Baker Book House: 1974.,
p.236)
That is NOT to say that parents are naturally good at teaching academic
subjects! While professional teachers are best at teaching facts, concepts
and skills the changing of attitudes and value inculcation is best done by
parents who are not trained in teaching facts, concepts and skills. Use the
people best suited for what you want to achieve. It should be noted that
most home schoolers have no formal teaching qualifications whatsoever. It
is like refusing to send your child to a qualified professional surgeon to
have an operation and performing the task yourself on your kitchen table
because "as a parent I know the child better ... and surgery is only using a
knife ...which I use to cut up the meat and veg every day ... simple!" DIY
surgery is a metaphor of homeschooling.
In the 4th century the Emperor Julian challenged the Christians to take
their children out of the classical schools, where other gods were taught,
and to retreat to their own schools where they could be taught out of
"Matthew and Luke". He was determined to force on Christians the
educationalconsequences of the New Testament. The Emperor Julian uses the
word "anetos" to describe the children of Christian parents ... it means
"mindless". He suggested that they be cured by an Hellenistic education.
However, children were not penalised because of their parent's beliefs and
the classical schools remained open to all people. Two people named
Apollinaris (father and son) converted the bible into pseudo-classical
literature with the Pentateuch as a Homeric epic and the gospels as Platonic
dialogues because Julian compelled Christians to to work from texts written
in sub-classical Greek.
In subsequent centuries Christians developed a quasi-educational system to
teach the New Testament but this did not come into conflict with classical
schooling in any practical manner. basil, Bishop of Caesarea in Cappadocia,
wrote "To Young Men on the Advantages of Greek Literature" which suggested
that pupils need not be corrupted by their work, but the onus was upon
parents (and also secondarily teachers) within the church to train them in
Christian belief after school.
The historical fact is that Christians educated their children fully within
the secular system for the first four centuries after Christ's death in
spite of any contradiction that might have posed. They contradicted any
negative influence by biblical training at church and home.
Alternate schooling by fundamentalists, including home schooling, is a
reaction of their intimidated by pluralism and modernity. Jesus speaks of
being salt and light in the world not of running away from it. There would
be far fewer home schools if the world was stuck back in the 1950s where
fundamentalists wish to drag everybody.
> So here we attempt to explain a conviction we have through the only
> objective way possible: Holy Scripture.
Actually this is a very biased way which only works if you are a rabid
fundamentalist. Other Christians, like myself, do not take the bible as the
final word on anything. A Christian is meant to use their God given brain.
This explanation is also not useful for Moslems, Buddhists, Jews, Atheists,
Agnostics, etc etc etc. It ONLY works for fundamentalists ... just like
creation pseudo-science it is to be totally rejected as the subjective
opinion of fanatics.
Universal schooling is a modern invention and a culturally determined
phenomenon. As a result direct appeal to the bible as "proof" for a
schooling system is inadmissible.
The bible uses terms associated with the teaching ministry within a church
and educational metaphors but these cannot be honestly transposed to support
any Christian schooling concept. The Greeks had discussed education in much
the same terms as we do today by the time of Jesus ... but this is NOT what
the New Testament mentions.
The sacrifice that pleases God is that which engages the mind. (Romans
12:1).
> a heathen school
They are PUBLIC schools open to all, not "heathen" schools .... which is a
pejorative term. Should one also refer to home schooling as "home skoolun"
in the same manner?
There are many well educated professional teachers working in the public
schools who are Christians. I was one of them!
It saddens me that there are so many Christian parents in home schooling who
refuse to critically reflect on their choice of homeschooling and who
constantly demonise anyone who disagrees with them. I have been referred to
as a "troll" by people far less qualified to speak on the matter of
education and who have far less understanding of the bible. (See posts
to Trew Kristyun thugs at misc.education.home-school.christian)
Furthermore, there seems to be no professional reading of any high quality
done by homeschoolers. Having refused to even consider criticism their
refuge is in poorly written fundamentalist "books" which no worthy academic
educational journal would consider publishing. As a result they are left to
wander in a sea of mutual ignorance. It is not their ignorance that
worries me as much as the damage they do to innocent children who deserve
much better than the amateurish witchdoctor type "edjakashun" of home
schooling.
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In our times, various ideologically dedicated groups increasingly use
censorship, coercion, or propaganda to limit access to ideas, literature,
and the arts that they consider threatening. p.74
Censorship, the twin brother of propaganda, is the tool of despots, of
idealogues, of ayatollahs, of fantics. p.96
Franky Schaeffer "Sham Pearls For Real Swine" ( Wolgemuth & Hyatt;
Brentwood:1990) [Francis Schaeffer's son & Susan Schaeffer Macaulay's
brother]
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MEHSC MOBERATOR WARNING TEMPLATE
Dear Trew Homeskoola Brandon Staggs bsta...@swordsearcher.com
I am refreshed and challenged by your unique point of view. You make silence
a wonderful thing to look forward to. However I took exception to your
recent homeskool scribble.
It was:
[X] Illiterate
[X] Irrational
[X] Uninformed
[X] Written with a blunt crayon that had been stuck up someone's nose
[X] Written on a slate covered with puke
[X] Written on both sides of used toilet paper
Your attention is drawn to the fact that:
[X] You contradicted professional educators who know far more about
education than you will ever know in several lifetimes
[X] You contradicted yourself several times
[X] You agreed with infamous internet kook Steve Winter
[X] You mindlessly dribbled and belched several times
[X] You repeatedly assumed unwarranted spiritual, moral, intellectual and /
or educational superiority
[X] You mentioned nothing about real education but waffled on about
homeskool ratbaggery and DIY amateur experimentation on children
[X] You keep talking to yourself in Homeskoolese
It is recommended that you:
[X] Devote your life to homeskooling in Iraq and Afghanistan.
[X] Get an education
[X] Learn how to spell
[X] Stop your abusive DIY amateur experimentation on children
[X] Start up a Homeskool Klown Skool
[X] Pay the standard $100 (Aus) Abuse Fine to the Moberator for your
childish fearfilled abusive homeskool behaviour
QUESTIONS TO UNDERSTAND YOU BETTER:
[X] Are you from the shallow end of the gene pool?
[X] Do you want fries with that?
Please save this message and review it occasionally to determine your
progress toward being;
[X] a tolerable homeskoola
[X] a fully-functional human being
[X] integrated into humanity
[X] re-integrated into the wild
If what you don't know can't hurt you, you're practically invulnerable.
You are hereby WARNED that future posting in the manner outlined above may
void your standing as a MESHC Member and you will have to reapply.
Thank you for taking the time to read this warning.
The MEHSC Moberator
On behalf of the MESHC Committed
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PRAY FOR SATAN'S SALVATION
(Supported by misc.education.home-school.christian)
Dear Friend,
Imagine a world free of sin, evil and misery.
Pretty sweet, huh?
Pray for Satan's salvation and make that dream come true! Jesus died for all
our sins, the least we can do is milk that sweet sacrifice dry.
Pray for Satan, and show Jesus that you've been paying attention.
Because don't forget, miracles are a dime a dozen in Heaven.
Let me address some questions you may have.
God wants me to pray for Satan? Are you sure?
Yes! We've finally solved the Bible, and all you gotta do is pray for Satan!
What better way to show unconditional, selfless love than to pray for the
Prince of All Evil?
But Satan can't be saved, can he?
Of course he can! Do you think the [Christian] God isn't powerful and loving
enough to forgive Satan? The Bible says: All things are possible through
prayer." And last I checked "All things" included every single thing, and
that means Satan too! C'mon people, this is what we should have been doing
since day one! What were we thinking?!? Jesus Christ, it's so basic!
Great! So what do I have to do?
Good question! Simply pray that Satan sees the mistakes he's made, asks for
forgiveness and invites Jesus into his heart as his own personal savior!
Is there anybody else I could pray for while I'm at it?
Stop wasting your time praying for anyone else. If Satan repents you may
never have to say another prayer for anyone ever again! Imagine that, no
more evil and sin! Just happiness and love! And Satan will then use his
powers for good! Think of it, we'll be telling our grandchildren about what
sin was!
And when Satan does repent, then what do we do!
How does "Live happily ever after, forever" - sound?
The Christian God's promise that ANYTHING is possible through the power of
prayer (Luke 18:27) should've been our first clue that this is what we
should be doing. No one is exempt from God's mercy and forgiveness! How did
we miss this one?!
Perhaps it is the only prayer that God has been waiting for so that He can
give us the ultimate showing of His mercy and forgiveness. The saving of
Satan's soul!
So I beg you to join me in this prayer and ask God for these 4 things:
· Pray that God will let bygones be bygones and put this eternal
feud to rest for the good of mankind.
· Pray that Satan sees the error of his ways; acknowledges his
wrongdoing and asks for forgiveness.
· Pray that Satan uses his powers to spread the word of God and help
others to believe in God's powers of hope and forgiveness.
· And finally, pray that Satan himself asks the Lord Jesus Christ
into his heart.
Can you imagine the world that we could make for our children (and our
children's children)? A world where Satan and God together use their powers
for good. A world where the old Satan-bigoted Christian belief is forgotten
and a New Christian Faith begins, with more love, compassion and acceptance
of absolutely EVERYONE ... including the Prince of All Darkness. The
generations of the 3rd millennium will recognize the face of Satan as the
ultimate repentance and the limitless mercy of The Almighty Christian God.
There would be nothing more beautiful than the image of Jesus and Satan on
either side of Heaven's Throne, all working through the Holy Ghost to save
EVERY soul!
This is what I pray for, and I ask that you would too.
Amen.
Brother John
CR Institute for Advances Christian Studies
Christianity Revealed
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MEHSC Moberator
Marty Carts
[...]
He's the one I mentioned. He may seem harmless
and cute but I think his charm goes downhill
the more you know of him. :- )
I do believe he's harmless, tho. _________Marty
P.S. Just came back from Steubenville, OH.
Wonderful, authentic, Catholic university there!!
I understand there's a huge hsing community there,
but we didn't have time to make connections. I'd
love to talk to hsers there with kids at or
approaching college age.
Michael S. Morris
Friday, the 10th of October, 2008
Mark Tindall, under one of his multiple tiresome nyms,
posts the same old in-part plagiarized and unattributed
battology.
His deceitfulness is way beyond self-delusional. Here,
for example, he is accusing others---others who
have not frequented this m.e.h-s.c newsgroup in years,
and whom no one but old-timers would know---of
"ad hominem" attack. The facts are simply that
Mark attacked first, and at the drop of a hat---the second,
in fact, after one of his smug little historical
pronouncements got contradicted, and, well, people responded
to Mark in kind, and eventually got disgusted with his
inability to even argue his way out of a paper hat. So,
years later, what does he do? Makes an ad hominem attack
against people who aren't even present, which attack, in
part, accuses them of using ad hominem argument. The reality
is, he seems incapable of even articulating what
an ad hominem argument even is.
What he is a poster child for isn't so much
"professional educators" as the simple fact
that government licensing of the same says *nothing*
about any educator having any knowledge about
anything real at all or any intelligence with which to
think upon what he knows and learn upon that which
he does not know.
Mike Morris
(msmo...@netdirect.net)
Michelle S Morris
<snippeth>
Michael S Morris of Butler University has won the Bozo Award several times
in a row .....
http://mehsc.blogspot.com/2007/07/bozo-award.html
Visit the following pages about Michael S Morris of Butler Uni......
http://mehsc.blogspot.com/2008/01/card-sent-to-michael-s-morris-of-butler.html
http://mehsc.blogspot.com/2007/12/mike-morriss-psychologist-tells-him-sad.html
http://mehsc.blogspot.com/2008/03/photography-for-homeskool-art-biology.html
http://mehsc.blogspot.com/2008/08/michael-s-morris-learns-how-to-write.html
http://mehsc.blogspot.com/2007/12/michael-s-morris-snotty-homeskooled.html
http://mehsc.blogspot.com/2008/02/big-howdie-from-mowwith-homeskool.html
http://mehsc.blogspot.com/2007/12/michael-s-morris-in-his-rv-homeskool.html
http://mehsc.blogspot.com/2008/03/michael-s-morris-homeskool-song.html
Find out how we treat ejakators at MEHSC
http://mehsc.blogspot.com/2008/01/how-we-treat-ejakators-at-mehsc.html
http://mehsc.blogspot.com/2007/10/how-mehsc-homeskoolas-greet.html
http://mehsc.blogspot.com/2008/03/how-we-treat-ejakayted-people-on-mehsc.html
http://mehsc.blogspot.com/2007/10/gallery-of-mehsc-trolls.html
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http://mehsc.blogspot.com/
Maintained by Professor Michelle S. Morris; Fizzix Lecturer & Fonix Tutor.
Butter Homeskool Uni, C/- Kitchen Table, Home, Bible Belt USA.
Michael S. Morris
Sunday, the 12th of October, 2008
Mark Tindall, writing under the deliberately and deceitfully
confusing nym "Michelle S. Morris", wrote:
Michael S Morris of Butler University has won the Bozo Award several
times
in a row ..... [snip]
Oh, Mark, you old flatterer! But, really, this is old, old stuff,
and was, umm, pretty south of lame when you posted it the first time.
You did get the news that my 18yo, Zan, is now at Indiana
University? And with approximately a full-ride scholarship?
(In the form of two scholarships, actually,---the "IU Excellence
Scholarship" depends entirely upon Zan's GPA (*) and SAT scores it turns
out, and then there's an "IU-Bloomington County Scholarship",
and I don't know what the criteria for that were, but he
apparently won one of the slots reserved for Morgan County,
Indiana.) And you understood Zan has no such thing as a
"high school diploma", although I suppose I could concoct such
a thing if it were ever needed? And my 16 yo daughter, in addition
to being homeschooled, is taking classes right now at
IUPUI (Indiana University-Purdue University-Indianapolis)?
(*) It has occurred to me that one could well complain
that Zan's GPA was a "concoction by his parents". Although
I know of no other grade to give than "A" when all
work has been completed satisfactorily. Still, in Zan's
case, one could well entirely ignore all "homeschool" course
grades, and look at only the university courses he took
at IUPUI over the last two years. And there were 7 courses
with 6 A's and one B. Which alone puts his GPA over the
3.8 mark that was one of the two criteria for the scholarship.
Mike Morris
(msmo...@netdirect.net)
Marty Carts
Michael S. Morris wrote:
> You did get the news that my 18yo, Zan, is now at Indiana
> University? And with approximately a full-ride scholarship?
> (In the form of two scholarships, actually,---the "IU Excellence
> Scholarship" depends entirely upon Zan's GPA (*) and SAT scores it turns
> out, and then there's an "IU-Bloomington County Scholarship",
> and I don't know what the criteria for that were, but he
> apparently won one of the slots reserved for Morgan County,
> Indiana.) And you understood Zan has no such thing as a
> "high school diploma", although I suppose I could concoct such
> a thing if it were ever needed? And my 16 yo daughter, in addition
> to being homeschooled, is taking classes right now at
> IUPUI (Indiana University-Purdue University-Indianapolis)?
> (*) It has occurred to me that one could well complain
> that Zan's GPA was a "concoction by his parents". Although
> I know of no other grade to give than "A" when all
> work has been completed satisfactorily. Still, in Zan's
> case, one could well entirely ignore all "homeschool" course
> grades, and look at only the university courses he took
> at IUPUI over the last two years. And there were 7 courses
> with 6 A's and one B. Which alone puts his GPA over the
> 3.8 mark that was one of the two criteria for the scholarship.
Congrat's to both the father and the son!
> Mark Tindall, writing under the deliberately and
> deceitfully confusing nym "Michelle S. Morris", wrote:
> Michael S Morris of Butler University has won the
> Bozo Award several times in a row ..... [snip]
Well mark me supporter of clowning around, if the
Morris family is led by a credentialed Bozo!!
____________________________________________Marty