OT Assylum.

[harry]

I wonder when Malala and family will be applying?

[geoff]

In message
<466ef1d7-cd17-40c6...@k21g2000vbj.googlegroups.com>,
harry <harry...@btinternet.com> writes

>I wonder when Malala and family will be applying?

They could have your place harry


--
geoff

[rbel]

On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 08:34:19 -0800 (PST), harry
<harry...@btinternet.com> wrote:

If anyone deserves positive consideration for asylum on a
safety/humanitarian basis it is Malala Yousafzai.
--
rbel

[geoff]

In message <26rv98hti38k4sq78...@4ax.com>,
rbel@?.?.invalid writes

Harry has a problem with people who are not quite like "us"



--
geoff

[GB]

Surely, you mean like he would like to be? In fact, he's an ageing
transsexual lesbian with awful BO and false teeth.

[The Natural Philosopher]

Harry?



--
Ineptocracy

(in-ep-toc’-ra-cy) – a system of government where the least capable to
lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the
members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are
rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a
diminishing number of producers.

[geoff]

In message <k7p5ik$r0c$1...@news.albasani.net>, The Natural Philosopher
<t...@invalid.invalid> writes

>On 11/11/12 19:26, GB wrote:
>> On 11/11/2012 19:13, geoff wrote:
>>> In message <26rv98hti38k4sq78...@4ax.com>,
>>> rbel@?.?.invalid writes
>>>> On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 08:34:19 -0800 (PST), harry
>>>> <harry...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If anyone deserves positive consideration for asylum on a
>>>> safety/humanitarian basis it is Malala Yousafzai.
>>>
>>> Harry has a problem with people who are not quite like "us"
>>
>> Surely, you mean like he would like to be? In fact, he's an ageing
>> transsexual lesbian with awful BO and false teeth.
>>
>Harry?
>

Only on a saturday night


--
geoff

[Grimly Curmudgeon]

On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 08:34:19 -0800 (PST), harry
<harry...@btinternet.com> wrote:

>I wonder when Malala and family will be applying?

What, exactly, would your problem be with that?
I'd rather she were here or the UK than back at risk of another bullet
in the head from those murdering barbarian cunts.

[geoff]

In message <n3h0a8hs8lh93ape3...@4ax.com>, Grimly
Curmudgeon <gri...@gmail.com> writes

I thought it was clear to everyone here that Harry, international travel
expert, has "issues" with johnny forriners


--
geoff

[Broadback]

I understand that the family's wish is to return home. Even though their
enemies have sworn to get her. Brave or foolish? I am not sure, but
either way I admire them.

[harryagain]

<rbel> wrote in message news:26rv98hti38k4sq78...@4ax.com...

Why?
All school girls in Pakistan are at risk.
And in virtually all muslim countries.
If we get enough muslims here, they could be at risk here in the future.
Will her children not be muslims?

We should make islam illegal in this country as it is clearly an evil
religion.
Christianity is illegal in many muslim countries.
And the number is increasing.

[mark]

"GB" <NOTso...@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:509ffbed$0$1150$5b6a...@news.zen.co.uk...

A terrible slur...he hasn't got BO.

mark

[harry]

On Nov 11, 7:14 pm, geoff <tr...@uk-diy.org> wrote:
> In message <26rv98hti38k4sq785gd0sg3tkvi9jt...@4ax.com>,

Not so long as they remain where they belong. If they want to come
here they should adopt our rules

[rbel]

On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 10:40:32 -0000, "harryagain" <harol...@aol.com>
wrote:

>
><rbel> wrote in message news:26rv98hti38k4sq78...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 08:34:19 -0800 (PST), harry
>> <harry...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>> If anyone deserves positive consideration for asylum on a
>> safety/humanitarian basis it is Malala Yousafzai.
>> --
>> rbel
>
>Why?
>All school girls in Pakistan are at risk.

It is a question of the degree to which they are at risk. In the case
of Malala Yousafzai the risk has been demonstrated to be exceptionally
high, hence the need for positive consideration of any application for
asylum on safety/humanitarian grounds.
--
rbel

[geoff]

In message <k7qjn1$bu3$1...@dont-email.me>, harryagain
<harol...@aol.com> writes

>
><rbel> wrote in message news:26rv98hti38k4sq78...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 08:34:19 -0800 (PST), harry
>> <harry...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>> If anyone deserves positive consideration for asylum on a
>> safety/humanitarian basis it is Malala Yousafzai.
>> --
>> rbel
>
>Why?
>All school girls in Pakistan are at risk.
>And in virtually all muslim countries.
>If we get enough muslims here, they could be at risk here in the future.
>Will her children not be muslims?
>
>We should make islam illegal in this country as it is clearly an evil
>religion.

No its not, its just the same as any other religion, xtianity included

why should my wife not be legally allowed to practice her religion in
peace?

>Christianity is illegal in many muslim countries.

What countries would those be, then?

>And the number is increasing.
>

And ?

--
geoff

[harry]

On Nov 12, 6:35 pm, rbel wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 10:40:32 -0000, "harryagain" <haroldhr...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> ><rbel> wrote in messagenews:26rv98hti38k4sq78...@4ax.com...

> >> On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 08:34:19 -0800 (PST), harry
> >> <harry130...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> >> If anyone deserves positive consideration for asylum on a
> >> safety/humanitarian basis it is Malala Yousafzai.
> >> --
> >> rbel
>
> >Why?
> >All school girls in Pakistan are at risk.
>
> It is a question of the degree to which they are at risk.  In the case
> of Malala Yousafzai the risk has been demonstrated to be exceptionally
> high, hence the need for positive consideration of any application for
> asylum on safety/humanitarian grounds.
> --
> rbel

Who gives a toss? She was just the one they found,the unlucky one.They
have created this evil society. Let them live with it.We don't need
it here.
If they do try to stay here, they will be just another family of
spongers. They have nothing to offer. Parasites on the taxpayer.

[harry]

On Nov 12, 8:17 pm, geoff <tr...@uk-diy.org> wrote:
> In message <k7qjn1$bu...@dont-email.me>, harryagain
> <haroldhr...@aol.com> writes
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ><rbel> wrote in messagenews:26rv98hti38k4sq78...@4ax.com...

> >> On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 08:34:19 -0800 (PST), harry
> >> <harry130...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> >> If anyone deserves positive consideration for asylum on a
> >> safety/humanitarian basis it is Malala Yousafzai.
> >> --
> >> rbel
>
> >Why?
> >All school girls in Pakistan are at risk.
> >And in virtually all muslim countries.
> >If we get enough muslims here, they could be at risk here in the future.
> >Will her children not be muslims?
>
> >We should make islam illegal in this country as it is clearly an evil
> >religion.
>
> No its not, its just the same as any other religion, xtianity included

Tell me what other religion justifies murder, terrorism and execution
of children?

> why should my wife not be legally allowed to practice her religion in
> peace?

For the reasons given above. It is not a religion of peace. It
advocates and excuses for example lying/enslavement/killing of non-
muslims.

> >Christianity is illegal in many muslim countries.
>
What countries would those be, then?

Virtually all of the Gulf states
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_Saudi_Arabia

> >And the number is increasing.
>
> And ?

Are really that dopey?

Well if christianity is illegal there,islam can be illegal here.
And should be.

[rbel]

On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 01:11:27 -0800 (PST), harry
<harry...@btinternet.com> wrote:

>On Nov 12, 6:35�pm, rbel wrote:
>> On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 10:40:32 -0000, "harryagain" <haroldhr...@aol.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> ><rbel> wrote in messagenews:26rv98hti38k4sq78...@4ax.com...
>> >> On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 08:34:19 -0800 (PST), harry
>> >> <harry130...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> If anyone deserves positive consideration for asylum on a
>> >> safety/humanitarian basis it is Malala Yousafzai.
>> >> --
>> >> rbel
>>
>> >Why?
>> >All school girls in Pakistan are at risk.
>>
>> It is a question of the degree to which they are at risk. �In the case
>> of Malala Yousafzai the risk has been demonstrated to be exceptionally
>> high, hence the need for positive consideration of any application for
>> asylum on safety/humanitarian grounds.
>> --
>> rbel
>

>Who gives a toss?

Anyone with an ounce of humanity. That is by far the majority of
people on this planet, including non-fundamentalist Muslims, but not
fundamentalist clerics, members of the Taliban, probably some of the
more dyed in the wool members of the BNP and it would appear, you.

>She was just the one they found,the unlucky one.They
>have created this evil society. Let them live with it.We don't need
>it here.

Malala Yousafzai was not 'just the one they found', she was singled
out for her activism in the fields of women's education, because she
was brave enough to stand up to the Taliban. It may be worth your
while doing just a little research before making any further comment.

>If they do try to stay here, they will be just another family of
>spongers. They have nothing to offer. Parasites on the taxpayer.

Given her family, her background and evident determination, Malala
Yousafzai would undoubtedly contribute a great deal more to society
than many with an insular and xenophobic viewpoint, should she remain
in this country.
--
rbel

[polygonum]

Sounds good - now who can we send to over there as a swap? And save a
shedload of FIT payments.

--
Rod

[whisky-dave]

On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 9:25:52 AM UTC, harry wrote:
> On Nov 12, 8:17 pm, geoff <tr...@uk-diy.org> wrote:
>
> > In message <k7qjn1$bu...@dont-email.me>, harryagain
>
> > <haroldhr...@aol.com> writes
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > ><rbel> wrote in messagenews:26rv98hti38k4sq78...@4ax.com...
>
> > >> On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 08:34:19 -0800 (PST), harry
>
> > >> <harry130...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > >> If anyone deserves positive consideration for asylum on a
>
> > >> safety/humanitarian basis it is Malala Yousafzai.
>
> > >> --
>
> > >> rbel
>
> >
>
> > >Why?
>
> > >All school girls in Pakistan are at risk.
>
> > >And in virtually all muslim countries.
>
> > >If we get enough muslims here, they could be at risk here in the future.
>
> > >Will her children not be muslims?
>
> >
>
> > >We should make islam illegal in this country as it is clearly an evil
>
> > >religion.
>
> >
>
> > No its not, its just the same as any other religion, xtianity included
>
>
>
>
>
> Tell me what other religion justifies murder, terrorism and execution
>
> of children?

Islam doesn't the taliban do in the same way that some catholic priest bugger littel boys and some DJs and comics and other professions induldge in peadophilla.
What religion were the Nazis ? you do know A. Hitler was raised as a Catholic don't you .

> > why should my wife not be legally allowed to practice her religion in
>
> > peace?
>
>
>
> For the reasons given above. It is not a religion of peace.

Few are, although I think Buddism is .

> It
>
> advocates and excuses for example lying/enslavement/killing of non-
>
> muslims.

They also put their own peole to death including homosexuals and women for whatever reasons they make up, but as with most religions there's the reasonable and the nutters.

> > >Christianity is illegal in many muslim countries.
>
> >
>
> What countries would those be, then?
>
>
>
> Virtually all of the Gulf states
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_Saudi_Arabia
>
> > >And the number is increasing.
>
> >
>
> > And ?
>
>
>
> Are really that dopey?
>
>
>
> Well if christianity is illegal there,islam can be illegal here.
>
> And should be.

It doesn;t say it's illegal does it ?
Are you saying that anyone that is not muslim gets arrsted when they arrive in Saudi Arabia as I know people that have been there and returned and are not muslim.

[harry]

Buddists are killing muslims in Burma right now. Hardly surprising,
they see what happens if you allow them the multiply.

[harry]

She and her family can contribute nothing to our society.
Her descendants may end up highly undesirable.
99% of immigrants who were only allowed into the country to force
down the price of labour. Her family is a member of the cult that
tried to kill her. Why are the still muslims?
Islam is a particularly nasty cult, they murder people in virtually
every country were it is extent. As soon as they achieve a certain
population level, trouble begins. They agitate for sharia law and
other medieval practices.

[geoff]

In message
<23c43e1d-23b0-41ab...@p11g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>,
harry <harry...@btinternet.com> writes

Fuck off you xenophobic retard

>Her descendants may end up highly undesirable.

Your parents obviously had the same problem

> 99% of immigrants who were only allowed into the country to force
>down the price of labour. Her family is a member of the cult that
>tried to kill her. Why are the still muslims?

Why are you a retard?

Its what they were brought up to believe - much the same As xtians, I
hear today that another bishop has been arrested for kiddy fiddling. I
presume you are an xtian -therefore you must be a kiddy fiddler Harry,
at least that's the logical progression of your "argument"

>Islam is a particularly nasty cult, they murder people in virtually
>every country were it is extent.

Do they burn people at the stake, break them on the rack, torture
confessions of relations with the devil ?

Oh sorry, that's xtians

> As soon as they achieve a certain
>population level, trouble begins. They agitate for sharia law and
>other medieval practices.

Does the sun revolve around the earth Harry?

Please don't post any more of your bigoted claptrap


--
geoff

[rbel]

On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 08:19:07 -0800 (PST), harry
<harry...@btinternet.com> wrote:

>
>She and her family can contribute nothing to our society.
>Her descendants may end up highly undesirable.

I think it very likely that she could contribute a great deal to our
society and, hopefully, that of Pakistan in the future. As I
intimated previously, her contribution will probably be to the greater
social good than those inhabitants of this island who still live in
the dark ages. She has a sound education and a 'can do' attitude that
bodes well for her future.

There is absolutely nothing to indicate that her descendants will
prove to be any more undesirable than people of differing origins.

> 99% of immigrants who were only allowed into the country to force
>down the price of labour.

There is certainly an element of truth in that, but do not forget that
it was also to fill those vacancies that the indigenous workforce did
not want to fill.

>Her family is a member of the cult that
>tried to kill her. Why are the still muslims?
>Islam is a particularly nasty cult, they murder people in virtually
>every country were it is extent. As soon as they achieve a certain
>population level, trouble begins. They agitate for sharia law and
>other medieval practices.

Far too much killing has been done by followers of all religions,
including Muslims and Christians in equal measure, for me to comment
on the acts of fundamentalists of all leanings.
--
rbel

[geoff]

In message
<f0956665-2122-4f75...@ib4g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
harry <harry...@btinternet.com> writes

>>
>> >We should make islam illegal in this country as it is clearly an evil
>> >religion.
>>
>> No its not, its just the same as any other religion, xtianity included
>
>
>Tell me what other religion justifies murder, terrorism and execution
>of children?

Xtianity has done its fair share

Rome did its best to wipe out competition in the Albigensian Crusade

ISTR 3000 jews took refuge in a church which was then razed to the
ground

The inquisition, the crusades etc

easy to go on, and on, and on

>
>> why should my wife not be legally allowed to practice her religion in
>> peace?
>
>For the reasons given above. It is not a religion of peace.

You don't have the first idea what Islam is about

> It
>advocates and excuses for example lying/enslavement/killing of non-
>muslims.
>
>> >Christianity is illegal in many muslim countries.
>>
> What countries would those be, then?
>
>Virtually all of the Gulf states
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_Saudi_Arabia

From Wikipedia

"There are more than a million Roman Catholics in Saudi Arabia." I'll
give you that it's illegal to practice. Now lets look at the rest of
them

"A number of Christian denominations are represented in Iran"

"The majority of the Iraqi Christians belong to the Eastern Rite
churches"

"Christians in Syria make up about 10% of the population"

"Christianity is a minority religion in Egypt. Egyptian Christians are
known as Copts and account for about 10% of the population"

"Jordanian Christians is estimated to number 174,000 to 390,00 (2.8-6%)
of the population of 6,500,000"

"According to a ministry report, which collected census data, 76 percent
of the total population of the United Arab Emirates is Muslim, 9 percent
is Christian"

"There are about 4000 Catholics in Yemen."

"Christianity is the religion of 2.5% of the population of Oman,"

That pretty well destroys your argument doesn't it

twat



--
geoff

[Weatherlawyer]

On Nov 12, 10:40 am, "harryagain" <haroldhr...@aol.com> wrote:
> <rbel> wrote
>

> Christianity is illegal in many Muslim countries.

> And the number is increasing.

And teo WORLD wars were fought in Christian countries. One alliance of
Christians killed most of the Jews in Europe.

What did that country most responsible do?

They banned a certain political party.

Now tell me about covering up.

[harry]

On Nov 13, 8:31 pm, rbel wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 08:19:07 -0800 (PST), harry
>

I think christians (I am not one) have got over the phase of burnings
etc.
Muslim are still liviing in their medieval past.

[harry]

On Nov 13, 8:10 pm, geoff <tr...@uk-diy.org> wrote:
> In message

> <23c43e1d-23b0-41ab-9d57-7855ce964...@p11g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>,
> harry <harry130...@btinternet.com> writes

Can't win the arguments so back to abuse are you?
Claptrap is where you're coming from.

[harry]

On Nov 13, 8:40 pm, geoff <tr...@uk-diy.org> wrote:
> In message

> <f0956665-2122-4f75-ad7d-afbdf6438...@ib4g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
> harry <harry130...@btinternet.com> writes

Ah yes. Christians are the ones being driven from their countries in
the Middle East.
Christianity has got over it's medieval phase. Muslims have clearly
not.
Religion is the root of most evil.

[harry]

Well the Jews are no better than Nazis with their concentration camp,
(Gaza strip)
Which country are you referring to and which political party?

[charles]

In article
<5b36b98f-ebf0-4289...@n5g2000vbk.googlegroups.com>,

harry <harry...@btinternet.com> wrote:


> I think christians (I am not one) have got over the phase of burnings etc.

the KKK is still active - they call themselves Christians.

> Muslim are still liviing in their medieval past.

--
From KT24

Using a RISC OS computer running v5.18

[rbel]

On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 22:51:50 -0800 (PST), harry
<harry...@btinternet.com> wrote:

>
>I think christians (I am not one) have got over the phase of burnings
>etc.

The Srebrenica genocide.

>Muslim are still liviing in their medieval past.

The fundamentalist element are, as are those extremist followers of
other religions.
--
rbel

[whisky-dave]

It's the Burmese military doing the killing.

[whisky-dave]

Who 'owns' the middle eastern countries the christains ?

>
> Christianity has got over it's medieval phase. Muslims have clearly
>
> not.

Some christians have but not all it seems.

>
> Religion is the root of most evil.

Along with money, power & sex.

[geoff]

In message
<5b36b98f-ebf0-4289...@n5g2000vbk.googlegroups.com>,
harry <harry...@btinternet.com> writes

>
>I think christians (I am not one) have got over the phase of burnings
>etc.
>Muslim are still liviing in their medieval past.

Then there was the woman in Ireland who it was announced to day, that
she died because abortion is not allowed in that catholic state


--
geoff

[geoff]

In message
<16db23c4-fc6e-416f...@b19g2000vbt.googlegroups.com>,
harry <harry...@btinternet.com> writes

Or not

>Christianity has got over it's medieval phase. Muslims have clearly
>not.

They have 600 years catching up to do

>Religion is the root of most evil.

Thats a different argument


--
geoff

[harry]

On Nov 14, 8:29 pm, geoff <tr...@uk-diy.org> wrote:
> In message

> <5b36b98f-ebf0-4289-bda3-904487e5f...@n5g2000vbk.googlegroups.com>,
> harry <harry130...@btinternet.com> writes

>
>
>
> >I think christians (I am not one) have got over the phase of burnings
> >etc.
> >Muslim are still liviing in their medieval past.
>
> Then there was the woman in Ireland who it was announced to day, that
> she died because abortion is not allowed in that catholic state

Your usual ignorance I see.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_the_Republic_of_Ireland
She died because of a medical cock up.

There are places in America with similar laws.
And Saudi Arabia & most of the muslimworld.

[Grimly Curmudgeon]

On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 20:31:42 +0000, rbel wrote:

>
>I think it very likely that she could contribute a great deal to our
>society and, hopefully, that of Pakistan in the future. As I
>intimated previously, her contribution will probably be to the greater
>social good than those inhabitants of this island who still live in
>the dark ages. She has a sound education and a 'can do' attitude that
>bodes well for her future.

Hmm... well, that's assuming the bullet didn't do too much damage,
Iwt.
Given the media propensity to sensationalise, there's a chance it was
a glancing headshot. I certainly hope so.

[Grimly Curmudgeon]

On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 13:01:53 -0800 (PST), Weatherlawyer
<weathe...@gmail.com> wrote:

>And teo WORLD wars were fought in Christian countries.

By no stretch of the imagination is that true.

> One alliance of
>Christians killed most of the Jews in Europe.

Cobblers.
Go back to your knitting.

[geoff]

In message
<b6860eb7-23a2-4881...@c17g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
harry <harry...@btinternet.com> writes

>On Nov 14, 8:29�pm, geoff <tr...@uk-diy.org> wrote:
>> In message
>> <5b36b98f-ebf0-4289-bda3-904487e5f...@n5g2000vbk.googlegroups.com>,
>> harry <harry130...@btinternet.com> writes
>>
>>
>>
>> >I think christians (I am not one) have got over the phase of burnings
>> >etc.
>> >Muslim are still liviing in their medieval past.
>>
>> Then there was the woman in Ireland who it was announced to day, that
>> she died because abortion is not allowed in that catholic state
>
>
>Your usual ignorance I see.
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_the_Republic_of_Ireland
>She died because of a medical cock up.

She died, I believe, because under Irish law, since the baby's heart was
still beating, it would have been illegal to give her an abortion

>
>There are places in America with similar laws.

Yes, there are people there even more ignorant than yourself

>And Saudi Arabia & most of the muslimworld.

I think I've already shown that you haven't a clue when it comes to the
"moslem world"


--
geoff

[harry]

On Nov 15, 7:29 pm, geoff <tr...@uk-diy.org> wrote:
> In message

> <b6860eb7-23a2-4881-9b61-23cac4951...@c17g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
> harry <harry130...@btinternet.com> writes

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Nov 14, 8:29 pm, geoff <tr...@uk-diy.org> wrote:
> >> In message
> >> <5b36b98f-ebf0-4289-bda3-904487e5f...@n5g2000vbk.googlegroups.com>,
> >> harry <harry130...@btinternet.com> writes
>
> >> >I think christians (I am not one) have got over the phase of burnings
> >> >etc.
> >> >Muslim are still liviing in their medieval past.
>
> >> Then there was the woman in Ireland who it was announced to day, that
> >> she died because abortion is not allowed in that catholic state
>
> >Your usual ignorance I see.
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_the_Republic_of_Ireland
> >She died because of a medical cock up.
>
> She died, I believe, because under Irish law, since the baby's heart was

> still beating, it would have been illegal to give her an abortion.

Tch, looking for an out are you?
You spout drivel without ascertaining the facts.

>
> >There are places in America with similar laws.
>
> Yes, there are people there even more ignorant than yourself
>
> >And Saudi Arabia & most of the muslimworld.
>
> I think I've already shown that you haven't a clue when it comes to the
> "moslem world"
>
> --
> geoff

I have traveled extensively in North Africa and the Middle East..
So you haven't shown a thing. Except how dopey and ignorant you are.