Screw slots

[Ramsman]

Shirley Conran wrote "Life's too short to stuff a mushroom", but how
important are screw slots?

If you want to be very fussy and align the screw slots on switch
faceplates, sockets, etc., should they be vertical or horizontal?

(It's Sunday morning and I'm bored, trying to work out which job to do
first)

--
Peter

[polygonum]

Torx...

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Rod

[Richard]

"polygonum" wrote in message news:b25fl9...@mid.individual.net...

He's done with torxing and now wants slots to screw.

[Ramsman]

Isn't there a song about that in South Pacific? Happy Torx?

Anyway, my angle grinder's too big to cut new head shapes. Even the
Dremel won't do it.

--
Peter

[Bob Eager]

On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 10:35:49 +0100, Ramsman wrote:

> Shirley Conran wrote "Life's too short to stuff a mushroom", but how
> important are screw slots?
>
> If you want to be very fussy and align the screw slots on switch
> faceplates, sockets, etc., should they be vertical or horizontal?

I think Andy Hall used to prefer horizontal.

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[Peter Percival]

Ramsman wrote:

> If you want to be very fussy and align the screw slots on switch
> faceplates, sockets, etc., should they be vertical or horizontal?

No one knows less about these things than I, but I would have thought
that the angle of the slot would be determined by the screw being
tightened just the right amount. I.e., it is not something the wielder
of the screwdriver determines.

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[Dave Plowman (News)]

In article <UFfvt.95522$MT4....@fx04.fr7>,

Vertical. There is no other way. Trust me.

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[Ramsman]

On 16/06/2013 11:24, Peter Percival wrote:
> Ramsman wrote:
>
> > If you want to be very fussy and align the screw slots on switch
>> faceplates, sockets, etc., should they be vertical or horizontal?
>
> No one knows less about these things than I, but I would have thought
> that the angle of the slot would be determined by the screw being
> tightened just the right amount. I.e., it is not something the wielder
> of the screwdriver determines.
>

There's plenty of latitude in tightening, probably a few turns between
"That's just tight enough to stop it being loose" and "Bugger!".

--
Peter

[Ramsman]

On 16/06/2013 11:31, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> In article <UFfvt.95522$MT4....@fx04.fr7>,
> Ramsman <nos...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> Shirley Conran wrote "Life's too short to stuff a mushroom", but how
>> important are screw slots?
>
>> If you want to be very fussy and align the screw slots on switch
>> faceplates, sockets, etc., should they be vertical or horizontal?
>
>> (It's Sunday morning and I'm bored, trying to work out which job to do
>> first)
>
> Vertical. There is no other way. Trust me.
>

That's what I usually do. I just wanted to see if there would be
confirmation that doing it upright was the better way or whether there
were people preferring the horizontal position.

--
Peter

[polygonum]

On 16/06/2013 11:42, Ramsman wrote:
> There's plenty of latitude in tightening, probably a few turns between
> "That's just tight enough to stop it being loose" and "Bugger!".

If you want your slots vertical, wouldn't that be longitude?

--
Rod

[meow...@care2.com]

It has to be horizontal. But if you plan to take time to do this, its time to seriously reevaluate your life. Go visit the 3rd world and see how people live.


NT

[The Natural Philosopher]

I always prefer the horizontal position for a screw.


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[Adrian]

On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 10:35:49 +0100, Ramsman wrote:

> Shirley Conran wrote "Life's too short to stuff a mushroom", but how
> important are screw slots?
>
> If you want to be very fussy and align the screw slots on switch
> faceplates, sockets, etc., should they be vertical or horizontal?

If it makes that much difference to you, you will already have your own
preference, and quite probably be so obsessional about it that you will
growl at anybody who dares to suggest the opposite is preferable.

Personally, I go with "tight, but not too tight" as being the optimum.

[John Rumm]

On 16/06/2013 10:35, Ramsman wrote:

Vertical - catches less dust ;-)


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[Brian Gaff]

Well firstly fit a crinkle washer under each. If you do not do this then the
screws will come loose and the switch rattle about.
What does one do with the ones with cross head screws in them though?

Brian

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[Ramsman]

It must be gratifying to know that the money you spent on pomposity
lessons wasn't wasted.

Try "How to prevent a total loss of a sense of humour" next.

--
Peter

[polygonum]

On 16/06/2013 11:16, Ramsman wrote:
> Isn't there a song about that in South Pacific? Happy Torx?

And "A Cockeyed Optimist" - so maybe any way you like except vertical
horizontal?

--
Rod

[Mr Pounder]

"Ramsman" <nos...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:UFfvt.95522$MT4....@fx04.fr7...

The site manager on all new Lidel stores insisted on brass slotted screws.
He insisted that the slot be vertical. Reason - they don't collect water.
He was on of the biggest bastards I have ever met in all of my life.

[meow...@care2.com]

On Sunday, June 16, 2013 1:05:46 PM UTC+1, Ramsman wrote:
> On 16/06/2013 12:23, meow...@care2.com wrote:

> >>> Ramsman <nos...@nowhere.com> wrote:

> >>>> If you want to be very fussy and align the screw slots on switch
> >>>> faceplates, sockets, etc., should they be vertical or horizontal?

> > It has to be horizontal. But if you plan to take time to do this, its time to seriously reevaluate your life. Go visit the 3rd world and see how people live.

> It must be gratifying to know that the money you spent on pomposity
> lessons wasn't wasted.
> Try "How to prevent a total loss of a sense of humour" next.

Pompous to suggest there are more productive things to do in this world? Pardon me for getting real.

[stuart noble]

On 16/06/2013 12:35, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 16/06/13 11:46, Ramsman wrote:
>> On 16/06/2013 11:31, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
>>> In article <UFfvt.95522$MT4....@fx04.fr7>,
>>> Ramsman <nos...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>> Shirley Conran wrote "Life's too short to stuff a mushroom", but how
>>>> important are screw slots?
>>>
>>>> If you want to be very fussy and align the screw slots on switch
>>>> faceplates, sockets, etc., should they be vertical or horizontal?
>>>
>>>> (It's Sunday morning and I'm bored, trying to work out which job to do
>>>> first)
>>>
>>> Vertical. There is no other way. Trust me.
>>>
>> That's what I usually do. I just wanted to see if there would be
>> confirmation that doing it upright was the better way or whether there
>> were people preferring the horizontal position.
>>
> I always prefer the horizontal position for a screw.
>
>

I prefer a knee trembler. Only in my dreams mind

[stuart noble]

I expect his shoelaces were the same length too

[Dave Plowman (News)]

In article <08bf8283-955d-4427...@googlegroups.com>,

There must be a country somewhere that would welcome those who align slots
horizontally, but not on this planet.

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[Dave Plowman (News)]

In article <kpkaal$a38$1...@dont-email.me>,

Mr Pounder <MrPo...@RationalThought.com> wrote:
> The site manager on all new Lidel stores insisted on brass slotted
> screws. He insisted that the slot be vertical. Reason - they don't
> collect water. He was on of the biggest bastards I have ever met in all
> of my life.

But presumably could spell the name of his store?

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[bm]

"John Rumm" <see.my.s...@nowhere.null> wrote in message
news:fr-dnX137Lb8NSDM...@brightview.co.uk...

> On 16/06/2013 10:35, Ramsman wrote:
>> Shirley Conran wrote "Life's too short to stuff a mushroom", but how
>> important are screw slots?
>>
>> If you want to be very fussy and align the screw slots on switch
>> faceplates, sockets, etc., should they be vertical or horizontal?
>>
>> (It's Sunday morning and I'm bored, trying to work out which job to do
>> first)
>
> Vertical - catches less dust ;-)

Is the correct answer ;)

[Grimly Curmudgeon]

On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 10:35:49 +0100, Ramsman <nos...@nowhere.com>
wrote:

>If you want to be very fussy and align the screw slots on switch
>faceplates, sockets, etc., should they be vertical or horizontal?

It's the sign of a diseased ming.

[The Natural Philosopher]

Nah. BTDTGTTS.

Its OK if you are out of control randy, but really nothing beats a nice
couple of hours flat out exploring 'all the options'

[newshound]

On 16/06/2013 13:53, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

>
> There must be a country somewhere that would welcome those who align slots
> horizontally, but not on this planet.
>

Don't they belong on the second spaceship with the hairdressers and
telephone sanitisers?

[dennis@home]

On 16/06/2013 12:23, meow...@care2.com wrote:

> On Sunday, June 16, 2013 11:46:16 AM UTC+1, Ramsman wrote:

8<

>> That's what I usually do. I just wanted to see if there would be
>> confirmation that doing it upright was the better way or whether there
>> were people preferring the horizontal position.
>
> It has to be horizontal. But if you plan to take time to do this, its time to seriously reevaluate your life. Go visit the 3rd world and see how people live.
>
>
> NT
>

If he is going to do it then he needs a spirit level and a flat on the
screwdriver blade to rest it on.

Maybe there is scope for a driver with three lights to ensure its done
right without the need for a spirit level or an app that uses the smart
phone camera to tell you which way to turn the screw?

[ARW]

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> In article <UFfvt.95522$MT4....@fx04.fr7>,
> Ramsman <nos...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> Shirley Conran wrote "Life's too short to stuff a mushroom", but how
>> important are screw slots?
>
>> If you want to be very fussy and align the screw slots on switch
>> faceplates, sockets, etc., should they be vertical or horizontal?
>
>> (It's Sunday morning and I'm bored, trying to work out which job to
>> do first)
>
> Vertical. There is no other way. Trust me.

There is another way. Trust me:-)































The slots on the screws should follow the alignment of the socket or light
switch that the electrician has installed. So they can be neither vertical
or horizontal.



--
Adam

[Ramsman]

Well, yes. Boring and humourless, too.

There are probably more productive things to do than spending your
morning being miserable at a keyboard.

So far today I've been out on my bike, repaired a shower head holder and
done some work to earn a few quid. Right now I'm drinking a bottle of
bitter my younger daughter gave me, while SWMBO is watching some lanky
porridge wog hitting a yellow ball at a bloke from the Balkans.
--
Peter

[Owain]

On Jun 16, 5:27 pm, "ARW" wrote:
> So they can be neither vertical
> or horizontal.

Bit like my light switches then.

Unlike the ones installed by the 'electrician', mine are in T&E and
earthed, though.

Owain

[PeterC]

On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 13:53:36 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

> There must be a country somewhere that would welcome those who align slots
> horizontally, but not on this planet.

There is, but it's at war with the country that aligns slots vertically.
--
Peter.
The gods will stay away
whilst religions hold sway

[PeterC]

On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 12:58:24 +0100, John Rumm wrote:

> On 16/06/2013 10:35, Ramsman wrote:
>> Shirley Conran wrote "Life's too short to stuff a mushroom", but how
>> important are screw slots?
>>
>> If you want to be very fussy and align the screw slots on switch
>> faceplates, sockets, etc., should they be vertical or horizontal?
>>
>> (It's Sunday morning and I'm bored, trying to work out which job to do
>> first)
>
> Vertical - catches less dust ;-)

That would look so strange in my place.

[Mr Pounder]

"Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote in message
news:535cb45...@davenoise.co.uk...

> In article <kpkaal$a38$1...@dont-email.me>,
> Mr Pounder <MrPo...@RationalThought.com> wrote:
>> The site manager on all new Lidel stores insisted on brass slotted
>> screws. He insisted that the slot be vertical. Reason - they don't
>> collect water. He was on of the biggest bastards I have ever met in all
>> of my life.
>
> But presumably could spell the name of his store?

Don't nit pick. I'm not in the best of health.

[Mr Pounder]

"Ramsman" <nos...@nowhere.com> wrote in message

news:O0mvt.108403$ue5....@fx12.fr7...

Wog is racist!!!!!!!!!

[Vir Campestris]

On 16/06/2013 11:24, Peter Percival wrote:
>
> No one knows less about these things than I, but I would have thought
> that the angle of the slot would be determined by the screw being
> tightened just the right amount. I.e., it is not something the wielder
> of the screwdriver determines.

<me too>

Woodscrews into hardwood have _significantly_ different torque if you
give them the extra nearly-half-a-turn.

Andy

[Dave Plowman (News)]

In article <kpkr9l$35e$1...@dont-email.me>,

Mr Pounder <MrPo...@RationalThought.com> wrote:

> "Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:535cb45...@davenoise.co.uk...
> > In article <kpkaal$a38$1...@dont-email.me>,
> > Mr Pounder <MrPo...@RationalThought.com> wrote:
> >> The site manager on all new Lidel stores insisted on brass slotted
> >> screws. He insisted that the slot be vertical. Reason - they don't
> >> collect water. He was on of the biggest bastards I have ever met in
> >> all of my life.
> >
> > But presumably could spell the name of his store?

> Don't nit pick. I'm not in the best of health.

Well, yes. That's been apparent for ages.

--
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[Ramsman]

Wog might be racist in some contexts, but IMO calling a person from
north of Hadrian's Wall a Porridge Wog is no more offensive than such a
person calling an Englishman a Sassenach.

--
Peter

[ARW]

Is your high horse vertically or horizontally challenged?

FFS NT get a sense of humour.

--
Adam

[charles]

In article <9%mvt.103962$P_4....@fx31.fr7>, Ramsman <nos...@nowhere.com>
wrote:

sassenach simply means "Southerner". Nothing racist in that.

--
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Using a RISC OS computer running v5.18

[DerbyBorn]

Slots in line show that the person installing had an eye for detail and
that even the hidden things are likely to have been done with a similar
attention to detail (IMHO). A Plant Engineering Manager once told me this
and I have found it has some truth. Some might sneer and suggest OCD = but
I was only recently told of someone having some work done (internal doors
replaced) - he said he knew he was dealing with a trustworthy craftsman the
minute he laid his tools out - in a logical order - on a sheet of material
and the tools were all clean.
Good craftsmen have good habits!

[Steve Firth]

charles <cha...@charleshope.demon.co.uk> wrote:
[snip]

>> Wog might be racist in some contexts, but IMO calling a person from
>> north of Hadrian's Wall a Porridge Wog is no more offensive than such a
>> person calling an Englishman a Sassenach.
>
> sassenach simply means "Southerner". Nothing racist in that.

It's the same word as the German / Netherlands Saksisch. It means "Saxon"
not southerner.

Although a Scots (Teuchter) relative of mine used to I insist that it meant
sausage-eater.

It's used more commonly in Welsh and many government websites feature
"Saesneg" for "English". I used to find it mildly offensive but since
English indicates that we are Angles it's just a bit of a difference about
what flavour of Kraut we are.

--
<•DarWin><|
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[meow...@care2.com]

I only half expected another foolish time wasting response. Plonk.

[Vir Campestris]

On 16/06/2013 21:07, charles wrote:
> sassenach simply means "Southerner". Nothing racist in that.

Yes, and the N word we mustn't say come directly from the Latin (with
merely the doubling of the G) yet is highly offensive.

Because of the way it is used.

Andy

[Tim+]

Earned yourself a plonk there for humourlessness. The OPs first post was
clearly light hearted. If you couldn't see that I pity you.

Tim

[soup]

Ramsman wrote:

> porridge wog

Though I am Scots myself I like that phrase, not analysed to closely,
just the sound of it.

[soup]

Ramsman wrote:

> Wog might be racist in some contexts, but IMO calling a person from
> north of Hadrian's Wall a Porridge Wog is no more offensive than such a
> person calling an Englishman a Sassenach.

Sassenach is just Gaelic for lowlander. However it is used nowadays
(mostly) as a term for Englishmen.

[F Murtz]

Line em all up, I even put washers on with the rounded (caused by
stamping)part out

[The Medway Handyman]

On 16/06/2013 10:35, Ramsman wrote:
> Shirley Conran wrote "Life's too short to stuff a mushroom", but how
> important are screw slots?
>

> If you want to be very fussy and align the screw slots on switch
> faceplates, sockets, etc., should they be vertical or horizontal?
>

> (It's Sunday morning and I'm bored, trying to work out which job to do
> first)
>

Vertical when the switch is 'on', horizontal when 'off'.

--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

[The Natural Philosopher]

Racism: terms used by white englishmen to describe anyone who isn't a
white englishman.
Banter: terms used by anyone else to describe white englishmen.

There. Does that make it all clear?

[fred]

Well in Dublin sandwiches are known as sambo's. I wouldn't fancy asking for a sambo in parts of London.

[pcb1962]

On Monday, 17 June 2013 09:10:42 UTC+1, F Murtz wrote:

> I even put washers on with the rounded (caused by stamping) part out

I'd always assumed everyone did that. When I made up some big (22mm i/d) washers in the lathe recently I rounded one side so they'd look right.

[PeterC]

I do in most cases but put the rounded side in when using them as
reinforcing on thin metal uder stress and also for the same use on plastic.
ICBW, but I feel that a sharp edge on relatively fragile materials Is Not A
Good Thing.

[Graham.]

On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 12:58:24 +0100, John Rumm

<see.my.s...@nowhere.null> wrote:

>On 16/06/2013 10:35, Ramsman wrote:
>> Shirley Conran wrote "Life's too short to stuff a mushroom", but how
>> important are screw slots?
>>
>> If you want to be very fussy and align the screw slots on switch
>> faceplates, sockets, etc., should they be vertical or horizontal?
>>
>> (It's Sunday morning and I'm bored, trying to work out which job to do
>> first)
>

>Vertical - catches less dust ;-)

Far too frivolous a reason.

My feeling is that horizontal orientation evokes optimism and
pleasure, no doubt due to the way we recognise the human face and
relate to a smile, So horizontal for family homes, and vertical for
miserable bastards like accountants.

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%

[whisky-dave]

On Sunday, June 16, 2013 11:46:16 AM UTC+1, Ramsman wrote:
> On 16/06/2013 11:31, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

> That's what I usually do. I just wanted to see if there would be
>
> confirmation that doing it upright was the better way or whether there
>
> were people preferring the horizontal position.

Are we still talking about screwing ;-)

[Dave Plowman (News)]

In article <152ur8t2l4hp7dbj2...@4ax.com>,

Vertical for an upright honest home. Horizontal for slobs who lie around
watching daytime TV.

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Dave Plowman da...@davenoise.co.uk London SW

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[Richard]

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
news:kpmmbq$knj$2...@news.albasani.net...

>
>On 16/06/13 23:08, Vir Campestris wrote:
>> On 16/06/2013 21:07, charles wrote:
>>> sassenach simply means "Southerner". Nothing racist in that.
>>
>> Yes, and the N word we mustn't say come directly from the Latin (with
>> merely the doubling of the G) yet is highly offensive.
>>
>> Because of the way it is used.
>>
>> Andy
>Racism: terms used by white englishmen to describe anyone who isn't a white
>englishman.
>Banter: terms used by anyone else to describe white englishmen.
>
>There. Does that make it all clear?
>

Applause.

[ARW]

polygonum wrote:
> On 16/06/2013 10:35, Ramsman wrote:
>> Shirley Conran wrote "Life's too short to stuff a mushroom", but how
>> important are screw slots?
>>
>> If you want to be very fussy and align the screw slots on switch
>> faceplates, sockets, etc., should they be vertical or horizontal?
>>
>> (It's Sunday morning and I'm bored, trying to work out which job to
>> do first)
>>

> Torx...

Barnsley police station use those on the face plates in the cells. Well for
one of the screws. The other one is a two pin screw.

--
Adam

[John Rumm]

By extension one ought to orient the screw heads on each side of the
light switch slightly off the horizontal, tilted down a little[1] on the
inside edges to more accurately depict a "smile"

[1] more acute angles to be used by oriental DIYers wishing to avoid the
"blank stare" look ;-)


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[John Rumm]

On 16/06/2013 15:35, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:

> On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 10:35:49 +0100, Ramsman <nos...@nowhere.com>
> wrote:
>
>> If you want to be very fussy and align the screw slots on switch
>> faceplates, sockets, etc., should they be vertical or horizontal?
>

> It's the sign of a diseased ming.

Don't worry, Flash Gordon is approaching...

[polygonum]

On 17/06/2013 20:22, John Rumm wrote:
> On 17/06/2013 14:08, Graham. wrote:
>> On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 12:58:24 +0100, John Rumm
>> <see.my.s...@nowhere.null> wrote:
>>
>>> On 16/06/2013 10:35, Ramsman wrote:
>>>> Shirley Conran wrote "Life's too short to stuff a mushroom", but how
>>>> important are screw slots?
>>>>
>>>> If you want to be very fussy and align the screw slots on switch
>>>> faceplates, sockets, etc., should they be vertical or horizontal?
>>>>
>>>> (It's Sunday morning and I'm bored, trying to work out which job to do
>>>> first)
>>>
>>> Vertical - catches less dust ;-)
>>
>> Far too frivolous a reason.
>>
>> My feeling is that horizontal orientation evokes optimism and
>> pleasure, no doubt due to the way we recognise the human face and
>> relate to a smile, So horizontal for family homes, and vertical for
>> miserable bastards like accountants.
>
> By extension one ought to orient the screw heads on each side of the
> light switch slightly off the horizontal, tilted down a little[1] on the
> inside edges to more accurately depict a "smile"
>
> [1] more acute angles to be used by oriental DIYers wishing to avoid the
> "blank stare" look ;-)
>
>

Though for a door handle (usual rectangular flat area with screw hole
near each corner), I would prefer them to be aligned to rays emanating
from the centre of the handle's centre of rotation, passing through the
centre of the screw itself.

--
Rod

[F]

On 17/06/2013 17:00 Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

> In article <152ur8t2l4hp7dbj2...@4ax.com>,
> Graham. <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

>> My feeling is that horizontal orientation evokes optimism and
>> pleasure, no doubt due to the way we recognise the human face and
>> relate to a smile, So horizontal for family homes, and vertical for
>> miserable bastards like accountants.
>
> Vertical for an upright honest home. Horizontal for slobs who lie around
> watching daytime TV.

45° to be inclusive?

--
F

[Dave Plowman (News)]

In article <EdednR2lPOECy13M...@brightview.co.uk>,

10 to 2 if your hobby is watch repairing?

--
*WHY IS THERE AN EXPIRATION DATE ON SOUR CREAM?

[Steve Firth]

45° the same way or one clockwise the other anticlockwise? If the latter,
left hand clockwise or anticlockwise?

--
<•DarWin><|
_/ _/

[fred]

Screw slots should be vertical in the West while horizontal in the East.

(Remember the Two Ronnies sketch where the Japanese lift doors opened vertically.)

[PeterC]

On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 02:52:32 -0700 (PDT), fred wrote:

>> 45° the same way or one clockwise the other anticlockwise? If the latter,
>>
>> left hand clockwise or anticlockwise?
>>
>> --
>>
>> <•DarWin><|
>>
>> _/ _/
>
> Screw slots should be vertical in the West while horizontal in the East.
>
> (Remember the Two Ronnies sketch where the Japanese lift doors opened vertically.)

An old one: you can tell if a man is straight, he has a Chinese bit on the
side.