In article <jlt37d$a9...@n102.xanadu-bbs.net>,
Davey <da...@example.invalid> wrote:
> But you live in Kansas. This is a uk. newsgroup!
It has quite a few non UK readers, so that doesn't matter. But I do wish
people would use a sig. which says where they are. Even UK ones, when
asking where to buy something.
-- *Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups *
Dave Plowman d...@davenoise.co.uk London SW
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> In article <jlt37d$a9...@n102.xanadu-bbs.net>,
> Davey <da...@example.invalid> wrote:
> > But you live in Kansas. This is a uk. newsgroup!
> It has quite a few non UK readers, so that doesn't matter. But I do
> wish people would use a sig. which says where they are. Even UK ones,
> when asking where to buy something.
I know this fella, he hosts my newsreading, so I have no problem with
his dropping by. He was probably just surfing his hosted newsgroups.
But I agree with your thinking, I see requests for suggestions for
things or places, and it makes a difference where the poster is. That
said, I use just one sig., which for most purposes does fine without
adding any locality information. Maybe say that it would help if people were more inclined to
indicate their location when it matters?
-- Davey.
>>> But you live in Kansas. This is a uk. newsgroup!
>> It has quite a few non UK readers
> I know this fella, he hosts my newsreading, so I have no problem with
> his dropping by.
I don't think *anyone* has a problem with non-UK folks dropping by, other than the odd bit of confusion when it turns out that local differences *do* matter, even then it can be interesting to learn the differences.
Tools work the same whether you're chasing a cow in Kansas, or fixing a tram in NZ. It's only _shopping_ where it gets difficult. And the odd spelling.
In article <jluu3k$pk...@speranza.aioe.org>,
Bill Wright <b...@invalid.com> wrote:
> Andy Burns wrote:
> > I don't think *anyone* has a problem with non-UK folks dropping by, > Especially those from the USA, the great nation that has saved the world > from despots and dictators so many times in the last hundred years.
Thought Regan and Thatcher were bosom buddies?
-- *Age is a very high price to pay for maturity.
Dave Plowman d...@davenoise.co.uk London SW
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>> In article <jlt37d$a9...@n102.xanadu-bbs.net>,
>> Davey <da...@example.invalid> wrote:
>> > But you live in Kansas. This is a uk. newsgroup!
>> It has quite a few non UK readers, so that doesn't matter. But I do wish
>> people would use a sig. which says where they are. Even UK ones, when
>> asking where to buy something.
> I know this fella, he hosts my newsreading, so I have no problem with his
> dropping by. He was probably just surfing his hosted newsgroups. But I
> agree with your thinking, I see requests for suggestions for things or
> places, and it makes a difference where the poster is. That said, I use
> just one sig., which for most purposes does fine without adding any
> locality information.
> Maybe say that it would help if people were more inclined to indicate
> their location when it matters?
Well, I certainly knew where you are. ;-)
As Davey stated, he knows where I am, but for Dave's information,
I'm located in Overland Park, Kansas, USA. A suburb of Kansas City
(Missouri, the larger, and Kansas, the smaller).
Overland Park is the second largest city in Kansas, following Wichita.
I do occasionally read parts of this group as I find time to scan the
Subjects for interesting items. The users seem to be polite, and quite
knowledgeable. Just the opposite from what I find in the a.o.l.u group.
I am curious though, just how much does it cost someone in the UK to order
from a company in the US? Is there just postage (shipping), or does one or
both countries charge some export/import "tax" on the goods?
-- John
When a person has -- whether they knew it or not -- already
rejected the Truth, by what means do they discern a lie?
John F. Morse wrote:
> I am curious though, just how much does it cost someone in the UK to order
> from a company in the US? Is there just postage (shipping), or does one or
> both countries charge some export/import "tax" on the goods?
We have to pay VAT (20%) on all imports plus duty depending on what the item is classed as, sometimes you get away with it on small items (and then ought to pay voluntarily).
But the real killer for a lot of American companies is shipping, it's not uncommon to see $50 or $75 international shipping even on cheap items, not always of course.
> John F. Morse wrote
>> I am curious though, just how much does it cost someone in the UK to
>> order from a company in the US? Is there just postage (shipping), or
>> does one or both countries charge some export/import "tax" on the goods?
> We have to pay VAT (20%) on all imports plus duty depending on what
> the item is classed as, sometimes you get away with it on small items
> (and then ought to pay voluntarily).
> But the real killer for a lot of American companies is shipping, it's not uncommon to see $50 or $75 international > shipping even on cheap items,
Thats because they use a courier service rather than their postal service.
Their postal service is much cheaper than that, but many dont use it at all.
>>> In article <jlt37d$a9...@n102.xanadu-bbs.net>,
>>> Davey <da...@example.invalid> wrote:
>>>> But you live in Kansas. This is a uk. newsgroup!
>>> It has quite a few non UK readers, so that doesn't matter. But I do wish
>>> people would use a sig. which says where they are. Even UK ones, when
>>> asking where to buy something.
>> I know this fella, he hosts my newsreading, so I have no problem with his
>> dropping by. He was probably just surfing his hosted newsgroups. But I
>> agree with your thinking, I see requests for suggestions for things or
>> places, and it makes a difference where the poster is. That said, I use
>> just one sig., which for most purposes does fine without adding any
>> locality information.
>> Maybe say that it would help if people were more inclined to indicate
>> their location when it matters?
> Well, I certainly knew where you are. ;-)
> As Davey stated, he knows where I am, but for Dave's information,
> I'm located in Overland Park, Kansas, USA. A suburb of Kansas City
> (Missouri, the larger, and Kansas, the smaller).
> Overland Park is the second largest city in Kansas, following Wichita.
> I do occasionally read parts of this group as I find time to scan the
> Subjects for interesting items. The users seem to be polite, and quite
> knowledgeable. Just the opposite from what I find in the a.o.l.u group.
> I am curious though, just how much does it cost someone in the UK to order
> from a company in the US? Is there just postage (shipping), or does one or
> both countries charge some export/import "tax" on the goods?
I spent nearly $80 in courier shipping VAT and taxes on $100 of parts.
Stuff from china comes in parcel post for a fiver. Go figure.
-- To people who know nothing, anything is possible.
To people who know too much, it is a sad fact
that they know how little is really possible -
and how hard it is to achieve it.
>>>> In article <jlt37d$a9...@n102.xanadu-bbs.net>,
>>>> Davey <da...@example.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> But you live in Kansas. This is a uk. newsgroup!
>>>> It has quite a few non UK readers, so that doesn't matter. But I
>>>> do wish people would use a sig. which says where they are. Even UK
>>>> ones, when asking where to buy something.
>>> I know this fella, he hosts my newsreading, so I have no problem
>>> with his dropping by. He was probably just surfing his hosted
>>> newsgroups. But I agree with your thinking, I see requests for
>>> suggestions for things or places, and it makes a difference where
>>> the poster is. That said, I use just one sig., which for most
>>> purposes does fine without adding any locality information.
>>> Maybe say that it would help if people were more inclined to
>>> indicate their location when it matters?
>> Well, I certainly knew where you are. ;-)
>> As Davey stated, he knows where I am, but for Dave's information,
>> I'm located in Overland Park, Kansas, USA. A suburb of Kansas City
>> (Missouri, the larger, and Kansas, the smaller).
>> Overland Park is the second largest city in Kansas, following
>> Wichita. http://g.co/maps/9zsmu
>> I do occasionally read parts of this group as I find time to scan the
>> Subjects for interesting items. The users seem to be polite, and
>> quite knowledgeable. Just the opposite from what I find in the
>> a.o.l.u group. I am curious though, just how much does it cost someone in the UK to
>> order from a company in the US? Is there just postage (shipping), or
>> does one or both countries charge some export/import "tax" on the
>> goods?
> I spent nearly $80 in courier shipping VAT and taxes on $100 of parts.
> Stuff from china comes in parcel post for a fiver. Go figure.
Most of the stuff I get from china is post free now.
In article <qZKdnbIrBPiy1x7SnZ2dnUVZ8mqdn...@brightview.co.uk>,
Andy Burns <usenet.aug2...@adslpipe.co.uk> wrote:
> But the real killer for a lot of American companies is shipping, it's > not uncommon to see $50 or $75 international shipping even on cheap > items, not always of course.
Indeed - and I've oft wondered why. These days I get things sent to a
friend in the US and she posts them on at normal prices. Not had any
problems - so far.
-- *Ambition is a poor excuse for not having enough sense to be lazy *
Dave Plowman d...@davenoise.co.uk London SW
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> Andy Burns <usenet.aug2...@adslpipe.co.uk> wrote
>> But the real killer for a lot of American companies is shipping,
>> it's not uncommon to see $50 or $75 international shipping
>> even on cheap items, not always of course.
> Indeed - and I've oft wondered why.
Its because they dont use their postal service for anything.
Those are the minimum international courier parcel services.
> These days I get things sent to a friend in the US and she posts
> them on at normal prices. Not had any problems - so far.
That works pretty well, and often the delivery to a US address is free too.
But there is a significant jump in the international postal charge at 1 lb from
memory which means its not economic to buy one of those glass bathroom
scales that way, they are a bit over that 1 lb and so the postage is unviable.
On Mon, 09 Apr 2012 15:10:13 -0500, "John F. Morse"
<j...@example.invalid> wrote:
>I am curious though, just how much does it cost someone in the UK to order
>from a company in the US? Is there just postage (shipping), or does one or
>both countries charge some export/import "tax" on the goods?
Depends on the size/weight of the item.
Largeish items used to be dead cheap and worthwhile getting sent by
USPS Surface Mail - slow boat from NY, I assume. Unfortunately, USPS
stopped that and the cheapest service is now 1st Class International,
which is cheap for small/light items but anything heavier now has to
go by much more expensive and not-worthwhile rate.
Another problem can be the sellers' ignorance of, or reluctance to,
use USPS 1st Class - some are downright obstructionist, while others
are quite flexible - I cite KEH camera dealers as a prime example of
the latter.
