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Dave Heiland

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May 11, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/11/00
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I'd like to put a night light in our bathroom. Currently we have one in the
hall since there are no sockets in the bathroom. Having installed a shaver
socket recently I was wondering if there are any night lights that can be
plugged into a shaver socket, and if so, where could I find one?

Dave

Ledswinger

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May 11, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/11/00
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Dave Heiland <dhei...@lucent.com> wrote in message
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Unless more sensible suggestions are forthcoming, get one next time you're on
the continent - although the pin width is different (19mm between pin centres
on European plugs, 18.6mm on shaver plugs, if my sources are correct) BF&I
usually overcomes any problems.

Led


Dave Liquorice

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May 11, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/11/00
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On Thu, 11 May 2000 10:10:40 +0100, Dave Heiland wrote:

> I'd like to put a night light in our bathroom. Currently we have one in
> the hall since there are no sockets in the bathroom. Having installed a
> shaver socket recently I was wondering if there are any night lights that
> can be plugged into a shaver socket, and if so, where could I find one?

No. far to dangerous. Partly from the danger of electric shock from an
appliance not designed for bathroom use and partly from overloading the
shaver socket. Shaver sockets are designed to provide very little power for
a relatively short time to shavers and nothing else. Even taking 7W for a
night light could cause the transformer to overheat and catch fire,
especially as the demand would be for hours at a time.

As you have mains available try and find a proper bathroom light fitting and
fit a small bulb to that. Remembering that your shouldn't be able to touch
even a proper bathroom fitting.

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Colin Stamp

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May 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/12/00
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In article
<nyyfbegfarkhfqrzbap...@snail.howhill.network>,

There shouldn't be any danger of electric shock - that's what the
transformer in the shaver socket is all about. Even if you touch a
mains terminal, no current should flow from the isolated output (I
wouldn't try it though). Interesting point about the constant loading,
I've always been a bit dubious about leaving my rechargeable shaver
plugged in all the time even though it should be within spec for the
transformer (looks to be around 20VA on mine). It hasn't stopped me
doing it though...

What's that burning smell?

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Dave Heiland

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May 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/12/00
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A bit of a pain that. So much for using my laptop plug converter to plug
the light into the socket, though it worked fine (but I don't think I'll be
plugging my hair dryer into it :)

As for mains being available, well we just painted again... Guess its back
to those bright halogen lights.

Dave

Dave Liquorice

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May 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/12/00
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On Fri, 12 May 2000 10:14:55 +0100, Dave Heiland wrote:

> As for mains being available, well we just painted again... Guess its
> back to those bright halogen lights.

Dimmer switch but thats another can of worms with LV halogens. B-)

As you've just painted you'll have some psre paint and the stuff you've just
put on won't have faded/got mucky so you can simply retouch the bits you
mess up...

Ledswinger

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May 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/15/00
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Huge <hu...@nospam.huge.org.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <8fgddc$7l2$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, Colin Stamp

<colin+...@stamp24.freeserve.co.uk> writes:
>
> >Interesting point about the constant loading,
> >I've always been a bit dubious about leaving my rechargeable shaver
> >plugged in all the time even though it should be within spec for the
> >transformer (looks to be around 20VA on mine). It hasn't stopped me
> >doing it though...
>
> The razor point in our bathroom always has either our electric toothbrush
> or my razor plugged into it. I've never noticed it getting hot...
>

Yeah. I thought the "overload" argument was a load of shit, particularly for
plug in night lights which (on the ones I've just bought for the baby's room
take a humungous one watt). For a 20 VA transformer (similar on my socket), a
even a 7W night light shouldn't be an issue, although I reckon that the 7W
versions are far too bright.

As for the "not designed for the job" argument, why is a trailing razor lead
safer than a sealed plug in night light?

'Spose that these things are beyond us, and our houses will burn down.

Led

Colin Stamp

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May 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/16/00
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In article <8foa8u$pre$1...@barcode.tesco.net>,

Oooh I'm all indignant now. :o(

How come people keep using a quote from *me* as an example when
pointing out how daft it is to suggest that a 7W nightlight might
overload a shaver socket?

it was someone else who said:-

>No. far to dangerous. Partly from the danger of electric shock from
>an appliance not designed for bathroom use and partly from

>overloading the shaver socket. Shaver sockets are designed to


>provide very little power for a relatively short time to shavers
>and nothing else. Even taking 7W for a night light could cause the
>transformer to overheat and catch fire, especially as the demand
>would be for hours at a time.

I was only musing about the implications of leaving a plug in the
socket all the time which leaves the transformer powered up and *maybe*
wasn't quite what the designers had in mind. I did also point out that
that is exactly what I do.

Tony Williams

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May 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/16/00
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In article <8foa8u$pre$1...@barcode.tesco.net>,
Ledswinger <Ledsw...@bigfoot.charlie.oscar.mike> wrote:
[nightlights]

> although I reckon that the 7W versions are far too bright.

Yes, we have a 7w jobbie and it is far too bright.
Since it is automatic we can turn it down by standing
something reflective in front of it's 'eye'.

Actually the home-made one is far better. Just a cheap
9v wallwart, modified with 12v (red) panel-mount lamp.

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Tony Williams.

Dave Heiland

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May 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/17/00
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I've noticed one of the gadget catalogues has a £9.99 dimmer night light.
Seems a bit overkill, but it would be useful in our hall where the 7w is too
bright. The problem with our automatic is that it tends to flicker a lot
when you stand in front of it just blocking the light off and on.

Dave

Tony Williams

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May 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/17/00
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In article <8ftq6h$d...@ssbunews.ih.lucent.com>,

Dave Heiland <dhei...@lucent.com> wrote:
> I've noticed one of the gadget catalogues has a £9.99 dimmer
> night light. Seems a bit overkill, but it would be useful in
> our hall where the 7w is too bright. The problem with our
> automatic is that it tends to flicker a lot when you stand
> in front of it just blocking the light off and on.

Ours looks like a large 13A plug with a frosted chimney
stuck on the top, and a selenium eye on the plugtop face.
I suspect it is intended for a kid's bedroom, rather
than a walkway. At a certain level of dim ours goes
into a shimmery self-oscillation, at a frequency that
might bother some people (or kids). Our reflector
(a small white box facing the eye) turns it well down.

--
Tony Williams.

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