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Dave Plowman (News)

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Apr 18, 2013, 7:25:09 PM4/18/13
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Accordion to a recent survey, replacing words with the names of musical
instruments in a sentence often goes undetected.

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Nightjar

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Apr 18, 2013, 7:36:20 PM4/18/13
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On 19/04/2013 00:25, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> Accordion to a recent survey, replacing words with the names of musical
> instruments in a sentence often goes undetected.
>

Not if you have ever done any proof reading you won't.

Colin Bignell

Graham.

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Apr 18, 2013, 7:46:26 PM4/18/13
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On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 00:25:09 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
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>Accordion to a recent survey, replacing words with the names of musical
>instruments in a sentence often goes undetected.

I spotted the squeezebox immediately.


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Bill Wright

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Apr 18, 2013, 9:15:35 PM4/18/13
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> Accordion to a recent survey, replacing words with the names of musical
> instruments in a sentence often goes undetected.
>
It got me.

Bill

RayL12

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Apr 18, 2013, 9:58:28 PM4/18/13
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On 19/04/2013 12:25 AM, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> Accordion to a recent survey, replacing words with the names of musical
> instruments in a sentence often goes undetected.
>


LOL. Got me on the first read through.

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Apr 18, 2013, 10:35:14 PM4/18/13
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RayL12 wrote:
> On 19/04/2013 12:25 AM, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
>> Accordion to a recent survey, replacing words with the names of musical
>> instruments in a sentence often goes undetected.
>>
>
>
> LOL. Got me on the first read through.
>
Only took the first three words

Gib Bogle

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Apr 18, 2013, 11:05:53 PM4/18/13
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On 19/04/2013 11:25 a.m., Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> Accordion to a recent survey, replacing words with the names of musical
> instruments in a sentence often goes undetected.
>

Once was enough

The Medway Handyman

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Apr 19, 2013, 3:09:22 AM4/19/13
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Only got it 3rd time!


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Apr 19, 2013, 3:12:29 AM4/19/13
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On 19/04/2013 00:46, Graham. wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 00:25:09 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
> <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Accordion to a recent survey, replacing words with the names of musical
>> instruments in a sentence often goes undetected.
>
> I spotted the squeezebox immediately.
>
>
Blowing your own trumpet?

Tim Lamb

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Apr 19, 2013, 4:16:43 AM4/19/13
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In message <kkqcaj$d6j$2...@speranza.aioe.org>, Gib Bogle
<g.b...@auckland.ac.nz> writes
Got me!

I once read that your eyes only scan the top half of printed letters.

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Dave Baker

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Apr 19, 2013, 4:38:58 AM4/19/13
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> Accordion to a recent survey, replacing words with the names of musical
> instruments in a sentence often goes undetected.

I suspect that was a one-off flute and if you tried it again it wouldn't
work.
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Jon Fairbairn

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Apr 19, 2013, 4:52:31 AM4/19/13
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"Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> writes:

> Accordion to a recent survey, replacing words with the names of musical
> instruments in a sentence often goes undetected.

Got it in one, but then I’m generally quite quick to notice when
anyone does violins to the language.

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Scion

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Apr 19, 2013, 5:37:36 AM4/19/13
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Jon Fairbairn put finger to keyboard:

> "Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> writes:
>
>> Accordion to a recent survey, replacing words with the names of musical
>> instruments in a sentence often goes undetected.
>
> Got it in one, but then I’m generally quite quick to notice when anyone
> does violins to the language.

Do you parade that ability as some sort of status cymbal?

Brian Gaff

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Apr 19, 2013, 5:54:08 AM4/19/13
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No you need to let a text to speech system read it just once. I spotted
accordion straight away. So piccolo the bones out of that.

Brian

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RayL12

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Apr 19, 2013, 6:29:34 AM4/19/13
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The mind and eyes see what you 'think' it is.


Don't know if you've seen this, but I think its cool:

"Aoccdrnig to rseearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in
waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht
the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a total
mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the
huamn mnid deos not raed ervey Iteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe."

Andy Champ

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Apr 19, 2013, 7:15:02 AM4/19/13
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On 19/04/2013 11:29, RayL12 wrote:
> Don't know if you've seen this, but I think its cool:
>
> "Aoccdrnig to rseearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in
> waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht
> the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a total
> mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the
> huamn mnid deos not raed ervey Iteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe."

I spotted Accordion immediately. This text - well, I can read it, but
slowly. Normally read several words, then move my eyes and read a few
more - reading paperback fiction I read a line in 3 lumps.

With that stuff I have to read every word.

Andy

Owain

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Apr 19, 2013, 7:38:03 AM4/19/13
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*it doesn't*

Owain

Dave Plowman (News)

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Apr 19, 2013, 8:00:07 AM4/19/13
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I first saw this as a tweet - so nothing other than the text. It could be
my heading prepared the mind somewhat for it.

It took me three readings to get it. ;-)

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Nightjar

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Apr 19, 2013, 9:43:14 AM4/19/13
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Read my reply in conjunction with the subject, not the content.

Colin Bignell



Dave W

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Apr 19, 2013, 10:53:21 AM4/19/13
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On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 00:25:09 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
<da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

>Accordion to a recent survey, replacing words with the names of musical
>instruments in a sentence often goes undetected.

I'm fed up with "recent survey" jokes.
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Gib Bogle

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Apr 19, 2013, 4:04:43 PM4/19/13
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According to a recent survey, "recent survey" jokes are becoming more
popular.

Bob Eager

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Apr 19, 2013, 5:13:38 PM4/19/13
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What ext to speech system do you use, Brian?


On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 10:54:08 +0100, Brian Gaff wrote:

> No you need to let a text to speech system read it just once. I spotted
> accordion straight away. So piccolo the bones out of that.
>
> Brian





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John Rumm

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Apr 19, 2013, 6:26:44 PM4/19/13
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One of the oddities of dyslexia being that I can read that just as
easily as normal text...




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Jon Fairbairn

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Apr 20, 2013, 5:39:36 AM4/20/13
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It’s nothing to harp on about tuba honest.

The Medway Handyman

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Apr 20, 2013, 6:18:20 AM4/20/13
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And 87% (of 68 women asked) would agree.

Clive Page

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Apr 20, 2013, 7:33:37 AM4/20/13
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On 19/04/2013 11:29, RayL12 wrote:
> Don't know if you've seen this, but I think its cool:
>
> "Aoccdrnig to rseearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in

That is cool, but one can abbreviate words even more and the sense still
comes through. Many years ago I used the Forth programming language for
a job: it stored variable names as just the first three characters with
a character-count in the 4th byte. This attracted some criticism. Here
is the response by Chuck Moore (president of Forth Inc) to a letter
published in a programming magazine:

"Dea- Edi-,
I am afr- tha- the let- in the las- iss- abo- For- Inc usi- onl- thr-
let- nam- fie- has had the opp- eff- fro- wha- the wri- wan-."

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RayL12

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Apr 20, 2013, 8:07:25 AM4/20/13
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On 19/04/2013 11:26 PM, John Rumm wrote:
> On 19/04/2013 12:15, Andy Champ wrote:
>> On 19/04/2013 11:29, RayL12 wrote:
>>> Don't know if you've seen this, but I think its cool:
>>>
>>> "Aoccdrnig to rseearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in
>>> waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht
>>> the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a total
>>> mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the
>>> huamn mnid deos not raed ervey Iteter by istlef, but the wrod as a
>>> wlohe."
>>
>> I spotted Accordion immediately. This text - well, I can read it, but
>> slowly. Normally read several words, then move my eyes and read a few
>> more - reading paperback fiction I read a line in 3 lumps.
>>
>> With that stuff I have to read every word.
>
> One of the oddities of dyslexia being that I can read that just as
> easily as normal text...
>
>
>
>
+1

RayL12

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Apr 20, 2013, 8:13:18 AM4/20/13
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On 20/04/2013 1:02 PM, Tim Streater wrote:
> In article <atfcom...@mid.individual.net>,
> Ha ha how witty. Of course it is only possible to interpret the above
> because of context. Try writing software using short variable names and
> see how you get on. Or, rather, find a place to hide when the person
> subsequently tasked with maintaining that code comes after you with a
> machete.
>
That's the beauty of high level programming languages; debugging.

I use to program in mnemonics and rather than read code as a set of
objectives, I would read it is a journey through the architecture.

Andy Champ

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Apr 20, 2013, 1:47:31 PM4/20/13
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On 20/04/2013 12:33, Clive Page wrote:
>
> That is cool, but one can abbreviate words even more and the sense still
> comes through. Many years ago I used the Forth programming language for
> a job: it stored variable names as just the first three characters with
> a character-count in the 4th byte. This attracted some criticism. Here
> is the response by Chuck Moore (president of Forth Inc) to a letter
> published in a programming magazine:
>
> "Dea- Edi-,
> I am afr- tha- the let- in the las- iss- abo- For- Inc usi- onl- thr-
> let- nam- fie- has had the opp- eff- fro- wha- the wri- wan-."

I recall running quality tests through our Pascal compiler. It had
checks in it specifically to catch this kind of shortcut - spotting
things like tail saving. The checks would have things like two variable
ThisIsVeryLongVariableNameThatShould12ConfuseMostCompilers and
ThisIsVeryLongVariableNameThatShould21ConfuseMostCompilers - even the
checksum is the same.

Andy

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Apr 22, 2013, 5:18:09 AM4/22/13
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In message <533e8bb...@davenoise.co.uk>, "Dave Plowman (News)"
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>Accordion to a recent survey, replacing words with the names of musical
>instruments in a sentence often goes undetected.
>
I'd'oud thought the grounds upon which yu bass that are shofar beyond
the pale as to be specious but you probably snare d a few folks bifora
they caught on.

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Mark

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Apr 22, 2013, 6:04:22 AM4/22/13
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On Sat, 20 Apr 2013 18:47:31 +0100, Andy Champ <no....@nospam.invalid>
wrote:
That reminds me of compilers that would allow variable names of any
length but only take the first 8? characters as significant.
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Bob Eager

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Apr 22, 2013, 6:43:54 AM4/22/13
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Reminds me of the Elliott ALGOL compiler (yes, a very long time ago). It
only checked the first 5 characters of the reserved words.

A colleague was dyslexic, and he *always* wrote UNTILL rather than UNTIL.
It wasn't until we got a new machine (and a new compiler) that he
realised.

John Rumm

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Apr 22, 2013, 12:06:23 PM4/22/13
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Like CORAL 66[1] implementations first 12 characters are significant,
but can have embedded spaces in the names....

a n other variable is the same as
another variable is the same as
anothervariawhatnot


[1] ALGOL inspired language - superficially is like Pascal with the good
bits taken out. Popular at one time in real time / defense / avionics
circles.
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