painting and decorating - is this normal?
emma_mid...@fastmail.fm
Having painted one room, I decided to get some professionals in for the
next one because of the preparation work required.
Nearly at the end of the job, with just one coat left I can see ...
some obvious gaps between strips of lining paper (that I don't think
painting over will hide),
a few hairs in a doorframe's first coat,
obvious 'roller marks' on the ceiling,
splashes of paint on a window frame that's supposed to be left.
I'm wondering whether it's appropriate to mention any of these now, or
wait until they have said they've finished (i.e. I'm hoping they will
notice and correct these things or that they're due to being mid-way
through the job - are they?).
They have also left several pots of paint open over the weekend. Is
this advisable/normal behaviour?!
Emma
The3rd Earl Of Derby
Obviously not tradesmen? did you get them out of the local paper?
If you havn't coughed up the money yet wait till they've finished and tell
the boss blokey your going to inspect the work before coughing up the bill.
--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite
emma_mid...@fastmail.fm
> emma_mid...@fastmail.fm wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > Having painted one room, I decided to get some professionals in for
> > the next one because of the preparation work required.
> >
> > Nearly at the end of the job, with just one coat left I can see ...
> >
> > some obvious gaps between strips of lining paper (that I don't think
> > painting over will hide),
> >
> > a few hairs in a doorframe's first coat,
> >
> > obvious 'roller marks' on the ceiling,
> >
> > splashes of paint on a window frame that's supposed to be left.
> >
> > I'm wondering whether it's appropriate to mention any of these now, or
> > wait until they have said they've finished (i.e. I'm hoping they will
> > notice and correct these things or that they're due to being mid-way
> > through the job - are they?).
> >
> > They have also left several pots of paint open over the weekend. Is
> > this advisable/normal behaviour?!
> >
> > Emma
>
> Obviously not tradesmen? did you get them out of the local paper?
No, but they were recommended by the residents' association around the
corner - all much larger and more posher houses than mine so would have
thought it would be OK.
> If you havn't coughed up the money yet wait till they've finished and tell
> the boss blokey your going to inspect the work before coughing up the bill.
Do you think that's better than mentioning my issues now? I really
don't want them to have to 'undo' any work as they're already two days
behind schedule!
Also, leaving the paint open - is that OK under any circumstances?
Cheers
Emma
The3rd Earl Of Derby
> The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:
>> emma_mid...@fastmail.fm wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Having painted one room, I decided to get some professionals in for
>>> the next one because of the preparation work required.
>>>
>>> Nearly at the end of the job, with just one coat left I can see ...
>>>
>>> some obvious gaps between strips of lining paper (that I don't think
>>> painting over will hide),
>>>
>>> a few hairs in a doorframe's first coat,
>>>
>>> obvious 'roller marks' on the ceiling,
>>>
>>> splashes of paint on a window frame that's supposed to be left.
>>>
>>> I'm wondering whether it's appropriate to mention any of these now,
>>> or wait until they have said they've finished (i.e. I'm hoping they
>>> will notice and correct these things or that they're due to being
>>> mid-way through the job - are they?).
>>>
>>> They have also left several pots of paint open over the weekend. Is
>>> this advisable/normal behaviour?!
>>>
>>> Emma
>>
>> Obviously not tradesmen? did you get them out of the local paper?
>
> No, but they were recommended by the residents' association around the
> corner - all much larger and more posher houses than mine so would
> have thought it would be OK.
>
Your a woman they are men,enough said. ;-)
Raise your voice to them because it looks/sounds like they don't give two
hoots about the property their in ie the normal practice is to cover the
paint back up when finishing for the day otherwise accidents can happen.
:-(
>> If you havn't coughed up the money yet wait till they've finished
>> and tell the boss blokey your going to inspect the work before
>> coughing up the bill.
>
> Do you think that's better than mentioning my issues now? I really
> don't want them to have to 'undo' any work as they're already two days
> behind schedule!
>
> Also, leaving the paint open - is that OK under any circumstances?
>
> Cheers
>
> Emma
--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite
RedOnRed
<emma_mid...@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
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Paint should never be left open for longer then the drying time, especially
during the present weather.
With decorating they should be doing a good job as they go along. It's quite
hard to put a mess right once things have dried.
Are you paying on completion (which you should be)? If so, hold some back if
they leave it shoddy.
Broadback
yourself. Estate agents say "Location, location ,location". With
decoration it is "Preparation, preparation, preparation". Not many
professionals follow that code.
The Medway Handyman
> Hi
>
> Having painted one room, I decided to get some professionals in for
> the next one because of the preparation work required.
>
> Nearly at the end of the job, with just one coat left I can see ...
>
> some obvious gaps between strips of lining paper (that I don't think
> painting over will hide),
If they are that visible it's not been done properly.
>
> a few hairs in a doorframe's first coat,
Shouldn't be there but should be removed prior to second coat.
>
> obvious 'roller marks' on the ceiling,
May be covered by next coat if there is one.
>
> splashes of paint on a window frame that's supposed to be left.
Not acceptable. Everything should have been covered.
>
> I'm wondering whether it's appropriate to mention any of these now, or
> wait until they have said they've finished (i.e. I'm hoping they will
> notice and correct these things or that they're due to being mid-way
> through the job - are they?).
I'd point them out now and tell them you aren't happy.
>
> They have also left several pots of paint open over the weekend. Is
> this advisable/normal behaviour?!
Certainly not advisable/normal behaviour. What if a pet cat had entered the
room & knocked them over? Won't do the paint any good either in this heat.
--
Dave
The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
01634 717930
07850 597257
hzatph
>> painting over will hide),
>
> If they are that visible it's not been done properly.
Agreed - it needs fixing now before the painting
>>
>> a few hairs in a doorframe's first coat,
>
> Shouldn't be there but should be removed prior to second coat.
Dead right - get them sanded out now.
>>
>> obvious 'roller marks' on the ceiling,
>
> May be covered by next coat if there is one.
>>
>> splashes of paint on a window frame that's supposed to be left.
>
> Not acceptable. Everything should have been covered.
Point it out to them and ask for a better standard next time. Check
instructions on tin for rollers and point them out if necessary.
>>
>> I'm wondering whether it's appropriate to mention any of these now, or
>> wait until they have said they've finished (i.e. I'm hoping they will
>> notice and correct these things or that they're due to being mid-way
>> through the job - are they?).
>
> I'd point them out now and tell them you aren't happy.
You need to mention them now, not later
>>
>> They have also left several pots of paint open over the weekend. Is
>> this advisable/normal behaviour?!]
No - bad. Even if they say a skin will form to protect the paint underneath
you can get bits in when pierced.
This work is clearly very substandard and not professional.
Ken
estimates. You get what you pay for normally and if this was a cheap
estimate-- well, buyer beware.
ken
Chris Bacon
> Having painted one room, I decided to get some professionals in for the
> next one because of the preparation work required.
>
> Nearly at the end of the job, with just one coat left I can see ...
>
> some obvious gaps between strips of lining paper (that I don't think
> painting over will hide),
They should butt up. It's faintly possible that caulk will get over it,
but if you're having painted lining paper as a finish, caulk is likely
to shine out.
> a few hairs in a doorframe's first coat,
Tut tut. Should be dealt with when they (hopefully) de-nib before the
top coat.
> obvious 'roller marks' on the ceiling,
They should disappear with subsequent coats.
> splashes of paint on a window frame that's supposed to be left.
That's not good - if it's vinyl emulsion, use meths on some Bounty
kitchen roll to get it off (soak and wipe, don't rub hard).
> I'm wondering whether it's appropriate to mention any of these now,
Much better than later!
> or
> wait until they have said they've finished (i.e. I'm hoping they will
> notice and correct these things or that they're due to being mid-way
> through the job - are they?).
>
> They have also left several pots of paint open over the weekend. Is
> this advisable/normal behaviour?!
Depends on the paint, not normal, though, they should be covered. If
flies get in, that won't help. There may be a problem with skinning
of the paint/skin getting mixed in with the paint and being painted on.
Grimly Curmudgeon
drugs began to take hold. I remember Broadback <w...@towill.plus.com>
saying something like:
>I am afraid that I firmly believe if you want a job done properly do it
>yourself. Estate agents say "Location, location ,location". With
>decoration it is "Preparation, preparation, preparation". Not many
>professionals follow that code.
Not many customers want to pay for the extra time involved in proper
preparation, not just in painting, but in so much else. Hence the
proliferation of cowboys who can slap a coat or two on and seemingly
charge a reasonable amount. It seems a bargain until things start going
wrong, once again proving you only get what you pay for.
--
Dave