Lots seem to criticise using Ebay so here's a contrary view. Since it's
said people are quicker to complain than praise.
Bought a computer midi tower case and PS from an (unknown to me) supplier
at a good price. It arrived damaged - the front plastic panel was broken
off due to it being dropped. The bottom of the steel frame was slightly
dented too.
Contacted the supplier and sent some pics of the damage as requested. Two
days later got a full refund via Paypal. Not required to send the old unit
back. So I've got a free PS, and a case which I could repair invisibly if
needed
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Dave Plowman d...@davenoise.co.uk London SW
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On Jun 13, 1:22 pm, "Dave Plowman (News)" <d...@davenoise.co.uk>
wrote:
> Lots seem to criticise using Ebay so here's a contrary view. Since it's
> said people are quicker to complain than praise.
> Bought a computer midi tower case and PS from an (unknown to me) supplier
> at a good price. It arrived damaged - the front plastic panel was broken
> off due to it being dropped. The bottom of the steel frame was slightly
> dented too.
> Contacted the supplier and sent some pics of the damage as requested. Two
> days later got a full refund via Paypal. Not required to send the old unit
> back. So I've got a free PS, and a case which I could repair invisibly if
> needed
Surely it's the supplier (unnamed!) who deserves credit here, not
eBay??
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<5a7ff2ba-1d01-40d2-b975-6b1d300cf...@d6g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>,
Ben Blaukopf <bblauk...@airsource.co.uk> wrote:
> On Jun 13, 1:22 pm, "Dave Plowman (News)" <d...@davenoise.co.uk>
> wrote:
> > Lots seem to criticise using Ebay so here's a contrary view. Since
> > it's said people are quicker to complain than praise.
> > Bought a computer midi tower case and PS from an (unknown to me)
> > supplier at a good price. It arrived damaged - the front plastic panel
> > was broken off due to it being dropped. The bottom of the steel frame
> > was slightly dented too.
> > Contacted the supplier and sent some pics of the damage as requested.
> > Two days later got a full refund via Paypal. Not required to send the
> > old unit back. So I've got a free PS, and a case which I could repair
> > invisibly if needed
> Surely it's the supplier (unnamed!) who deserves credit here, not eBay??
Both, I'd say. The Ebay feedback system means suppliers want to maintain a
good score. Which doesn't apply to ordinary mail order.
The supplier's Ebay name is 'prouneed'
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Dave Plowman d...@davenoise.co.uk London SW
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> Lots seem to criticise using Ebay so here's a contrary view. Since it's
> said people are quicker to complain than praise.
> Bought a computer midi tower case and PS from an (unknown to me) supplier
> at a good price. It arrived damaged - the front plastic panel was broken
> off due to it being dropped. The bottom of the steel frame was slightly
> dented too.
> Contacted the supplier and sent some pics of the damage as requested. Two
> days later got a full refund via Paypal. Not required to send the old unit
> back. So I've got a free PS, and a case which I could repair invisibly if
> needed
I ordered an original Sky remote control on eBay.
What arrived was a knock-off, made from plastic one grade away from cheese.
I complained pretty sharply to the retailer, and got a friendly response and pretty quick refund. Told to keep the item.
Now do I compliment postively for great customer service (the quick refund), or negatively for them attempting a rip off?
<d...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> In article
> <5a7ff2ba-1d01-40d2-b975-6b1d300cf...@d6g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>,
> Ben Blaukopf <bblauk...@airsource.co.uk> wrote:
>> On Jun 13, 1:22 pm, "Dave Plowman (News)" <d...@davenoise.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>> > Lots seem to criticise using Ebay so here's a contrary view. Since
>> > it's said people are quicker to complain than praise.
>> > Bought a computer midi tower case and PS from an (unknown to me)
>> > supplier at a good price. It arrived damaged - the front plastic panel
>> > was broken off due to it being dropped. The bottom of the steel frame
>> > was slightly dented too.
>> > Contacted the supplier and sent some pics of the damage as requested.
>> > Two days later got a full refund via Paypal. Not required to send the
>> > old unit back. So I've got a free PS, and a case which I could repair
>> > invisibly if needed
>> Surely it's the supplier (unnamed!) who deserves credit here, not eBay??
> Both, I'd say. The Ebay feedback system means suppliers want to maintain
> a
> good score. Which doesn't apply to ordinary mail order.
> The supplier's Ebay name is 'prouneed'
perhaps if delivered by courier the supplier could claim their costs from
the courier?
Still good service tho.
I buy on ebay a lot and, generally, sticking with 100% feedback sellers,
paying by paypal, and, sadly now after too many duds, -avoiding ahem
"foreign sounding" sellers, are my guiding rules.
On Wednesday, June 13, 2012 8:31:08 PM UTC+1, Adrian C wrote:
> I ordered an original Sky remote control on eBay.
> What arrived was a knock-off, made from plastic one grade away from cheese.
> [...]
> Now do I compliment postively for great customer service (the quick > refund), or negatively for them attempting a rip off?
Surely the latter. The purpose of the feedback system is to inform other potential buyers of what they might expect to give them confidence (or not).
There's nothing worthy of praise if a fraudster refunds you promptly. That's like thanking someone for not mugging you.
> Adrian C wrote
>> I ordered an original Sky remote control on eBay.
>> What arrived was a knock-off, made from >> plastic one grade away from cheese.
>> Now do I compliment postively for great customer service >> (the quick refund), or negatively for them attempting a rip off?
> Surely the latter.
Not necessarily.
> The purpose of the feedback system is to inform other potential > buyers of what they might expect to give them confidence (or not).
> There's nothing worthy of praise if a fraudster refunds you promptly. > That's like thanking someone for not mugging you.
Dunno. Particularly with those that drop ship,
it can also be the ebay seller didn't realise that
their supplier had changed the device etc.
The obvious thing to so is say what happened in the feedback
and let others reading that decide for themselves if they like
that risk with someone drop shipping or not etc.
>I buy on ebay a lot and, generally, sticking with 100% feedback
>sellers, paying by paypal, and, sadly now after too many duds, -
>avoiding ahem "foreign sounding" sellers, are my guiding rules.
I buy quite a lot from the far east and they've been great people to
deal with.
In article <kFRTfCMJyQ2PF...@g52lk5g23lkgk3lk345g.invalid>,
Mike Barnes <mikebar...@bluebottle.com> wrote:
> Jim K <jk989...@gmail.com>:
> >I buy on ebay a lot and, generally, sticking with 100% feedback
> >sellers, paying by paypal, and, sadly now after too many duds, -
> >avoiding ahem "foreign sounding" sellers, are my guiding rules.
> I buy quite a lot from the far east and they've been great people to
> deal with.
Same here - mainly electronic components. Never ceases to amaze me how
they sell for a price including postage when it would cost me more just to
post something there.
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Dave Plowman d...@davenoise.co.uk London SW
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> In article <kFRTfCMJyQ2PF...@g52lk5g23lkgk3lk345g.invalid>,
> Mike Barnes <mikebar...@bluebottle.com> wrote:
>> Jim K <jk989...@gmail.com>:
>>> I buy on ebay a lot and, generally, sticking with 100% feedback
>>> sellers, paying by paypal, and, sadly now after too many duds, -
>>> avoiding ahem "foreign sounding" sellers, are my guiding rules.
>> I buy quite a lot from the far east and they've been great people to
>> deal with.
> Same here - mainly electronic components. Never ceases to amaze me how
> they sell for a price including postage when it would cost me more just to
> post something there.
state subsidised postal service in these keen export oriented places..
Remember the aim of Bl;air was to destroy jobs in the private sector so once everyone worked in the public sector everyone would vote labour. De facto Marxism. The quieter way.
-- To people who know nothing, anything is possible.
To people who know too much, it is a sad fact
that they know how little is really possible -
and how hard it is to achieve it.
In article <jrb4t0$1d...@news.albasani.net>,
The Natural Philosopher <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> Remember the aim of Bl;air was to destroy jobs in the private sector so > once everyone worked in the public sector everyone would vote labour. De > facto Marxism. The quieter way.
But it's taken Cameron to destroy even more.
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Dave Plowman d...@davenoise.co.uk London SW
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> Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
>> In article <kFRTfCMJyQ2PF...@g52lk5g23lkgk3lk345g.invalid>,
>> Mike Barnes <mikebar...@bluebottle.com> wrote:
>>> Jim K <jk989...@gmail.com>:
>>>> I buy on ebay a lot and, generally, sticking with 100% feedback
>>>> sellers, paying by paypal, and, sadly now after too many duds, -
>>>> avoiding ahem "foreign sounding" sellers, are my guiding rules.
>>> I buy quite a lot from the far east and they've been great people to
>>> deal with.
>> Same here - mainly electronic components. Never ceases to amaze me how
>> they sell for a price including postage when it would cost me more just >> to
>> post something there.
> state subsidised postal service in these keen export oriented places..
> Remember the aim of Bl;air was to destroy jobs in the private sector so > once everyone worked in the public sector everyone would vote labour. De > facto Marxism. The quieter way.
Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
> The Natural Philosopher <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote
>> Remember the aim of Bl;air was to destroy jobs in the private >> sector so once everyone worked in the public sector everyone >> would vote labour. De facto Marxism. The quieter way.
Completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
> But it's taken Cameron to destroy even more.
Nope, the GFC did that and that happened on Blair's watch.
> In article
> <5a7ff2ba-1d01-40d2-b975-6b1d300cf...@d6g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>,
> Ben Blaukopf<bblauk...@airsource.co.uk> wrote:
>> On Jun 13, 1:22 pm, "Dave Plowman (News)"<d...@davenoise.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>> Lots seem to criticise using Ebay so here's a contrary view. Since
>>> it's said people are quicker to complain than praise.
>>> Bought a computer midi tower case and PS from an (unknown to me)
>>> supplier at a good price. It arrived damaged - the front plastic panel
>>> was broken off due to it being dropped. The bottom of the steel frame
>>> was slightly dented too.
>>> Contacted the supplier and sent some pics of the damage as requested.
>>> Two days later got a full refund via Paypal. Not required to send the
>>> old unit back. So I've got a free PS, and a case which I could repair
>>> invisibly if needed
>> Surely it's the supplier (unnamed!) who deserves credit here, not eBay??
> Both, I'd say. The Ebay feedback system means suppliers want to maintain a
> good score. Which doesn't apply to ordinary mail order.
I'm not normally a fan of the ebay feedback system but in that respect it's good - the other thing is that you've probably got a high, good f/b score which means that your supplier probably trusts you not to be taking the mick, and isn't requiring you to return the damaged goods as proof - that benefits him by not having to cover your return shipping costs.
My big gripe with it though (when I'm selling) is that you can have a totally unreasonable, newbie buyer with a throwaway account have you jumping through hoops, basically holding you to ransom because you know he'll give you negative feedback on a whim, with absolutely no detriment to himself.
> On 13/06/2012 13:22, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
>> Lots seem to criticise using Ebay so here's a contrary view. Since it's
>> said people are quicker to complain than praise.
>> Bought a computer midi tower case and PS from an (unknown to me) supplier
>> at a good price. It arrived damaged - the front plastic panel was broken
>> off due to it being dropped. The bottom of the steel frame was slightly
>> dented too.
>> Contacted the supplier and sent some pics of the damage as requested. Two
>> days later got a full refund via Paypal. Not required to send the old
>> unit
>> back. So I've got a free PS, and a case which I could repair invisibly if
>> needed
> I ordered an original Sky remote control on eBay.
> What arrived was a knock-off, made from plastic one grade away from cheese.
> I complained pretty sharply to the retailer, and got a friendly response
> and pretty quick refund. Told to keep the item.
> Now do I compliment postively for great customer service (the quick
> refund), or negatively for them attempting a rip off?
Neutral? "Item was not original as stated, but supplier provided prompt refund"
>> Shame that's a lie.. there are more people in work now than when B Liar >> was in power.
>> There are also more people on the dole.
> Ahhhhh, so compared to a couple of years back, your average Joe (i.e, me) > is better off under Cameron?
I doubt if many are better off ATM.
There is a lot of debt that will screw up the average joe.
B Liar has even got people like me (no mortgage and no personal debt) into lots of debt.
>>> Shame that's a lie.. there are more people in work now than when B Liar >>> was in power.
>>> There are also more people on the dole.
>> Ahhhhh, so compared to a couple of years back, your average Joe (i.e, me) >> is better off under Cameron?
> I doubt if many are better off ATM.
> There is a lot of debt that will screw up the average joe.
> B Liar has even got people like me (no mortgage and no personal debt) into > lots of debt.
>> Right on the button again, Dennis.
> Thanks.
I see, so Cameron is sorting it all out then?
Goodo.
> In article <kFRTfCMJyQ2PF...@g52lk5g23lkgk3lk345g.invalid>,
> Mike Barnes <mikebar...@bluebottle.com> wrote:
>> Jim K <jk989...@gmail.com>:
>>> I buy on ebay a lot and, generally, sticking with 100% feedback
>>> sellers, paying by paypal, and, sadly now after too many duds, -
>>> avoiding ahem "foreign sounding" sellers, are my guiding rules.
>> I buy quite a lot from the far east and they've been great people to
>> deal with.
> Same here - mainly electronic components. Never ceases to amaze me how
> they sell for a price including postage when it would cost me more just to
> post something there.
I bought a reversing camera and monitor for a van from a Hong Kong seller
recently. Cost minimal (£45) and delivered within 24h because they maintain
stocks in the UK. It's a good unit as well, I'm very impressed with it,
camera includes an IR illuminator and can be used as a rear view mirror as
well as reversing camera.
<mikebar...@bluebottle.com> wrote:
> Jim K <jk989...@gmail.com>:
>> I buy on ebay a lot and, generally, sticking with 100% feedback
>> sellers, paying by paypal, and, sadly now after too many duds, -
>> avoiding ahem "foreign sounding" sellers, are my guiding rules.
> I buy quite a lot from the far east and they've been great people to
> deal with.
a little clarification - I too have purchased some stuff from abroad (far
east) with no issues, sadly the sellers I try to avoid are already in the
UK.....and frankly some take the p1ss.
