the true happiness
abolanah12
الإسلام والهدف من الحياة
تتحدث المطوية عن أهداف الناس في حياتهم واختلاف تلك الأهداف باختلافهم
فمن باحث عن الثروة ومن باحث عن اللذات وغير ذلك، ثم تذكر أن الهدف
الرئيس في الإسلام هو عبادة الله وعن بساطة تعاليم الإسلام وعدم
تعقيدها وعن لذة العبادة و أن الحياة الأولى هي للامتحان والابتلاء
وعبادة الرحمن والجزاء في الآخرة دار الخلود
ISLAM and the AIM of LIFE
What is your purpose in life? What is the rationale behind our life?
Why do we live in this life? These questions frequently intrigue
people who try to find accurate answers.
People provide different answers to these questions. Some people
believe the purpose of life is to accumulate wealth. But one may
wonder: What is the purpose of life after one has collected colossal
amounts of money? What then? What will the purpose be once money is
gathered? If the purpose of life is to gain money, there will be no
purpose after becoming wealthy. And in fact, here lies the problem of
some disbelievers or misbelievers at some stage of their life, when
collecting money is the target of their life. When they have collected
the money they dreamt of, their life loses its purpose. They suffer
from the panic of nothingness and they live in tension and
restlessness.
Can Wealth Be an Aim?
We often hear of a millionaire committing suicide, sometimes, not the
millionaire himself but his wife, son, or daughter. The question that
poses itself is: Can wealth bring happiness to one’s life? In most
cases the answer is NO. Is the purpose of collecting wealth a standing
purpose? As we know, the five-year old child does not look for wealth:
a toy for him is equal to a million dollars. The eighteen-year old
adolescent does not dream of wealth because he is busy with more
important things. The ninety-year old man does not care about money;
he is worried more about his health. This proves that wealth cannot be
a standing purpose in all the stages of the individual's life.
Wealth can do little to bring happiness to a disbeliever, because he/
she is not sure about his fate. A disbeliever does not know the
purpose of life. And if he has a purpose, this purpose is doomed to be
temporary or self destructive.
What is the use of wealth to a disbeliever if he feels scared of the
end and skeptical of everything. A disbeliever may gain a lot of
money, but will surely lose himself.
Worshipping Allah as an Aim
On the contrary, faith in Allah gives the believer the purpose of life
that he needs. In Islam, the purpose of life is to worship Allah. The
term "Worship" covers all acts of obedience to Allah.
The Islamic purpose of life is a standing purpose. The true Muslim
sticks to this purpose throughout all the stages of his life, whether
he is a child, adolescent, adult, or an old man.
Worshipping Allah makes life purposeful and meaningful, especially
within the framework of Islam. According to Islam this worldly life is
just a short stage of our life. Then there is the other life. The
boundary between the first and second life is the death stage, which
is a transitory stage to the second life. The type of life in the
second stage a person deserves depends on his deeds in the first life.
At the end of the death stage comes the day of judgment. On this day,
Allah rewards or punishes people according to their deeds in the first
life.
The First Life as an Examination
So, Islam looks at the first life as an examination of man. The death
stage is similar to a rest period after the test, i. e. after the
first life. The Day of Judgment is similar to the day of announcing
the results of the examinees. The second life is the time when each
examinee enjoys or suffers from the outcome of his behavior during the
test period.
In Islam, the line of life is clear, simple, and logical: the first
life, death, the Day of Judgment, and then the second life. With this
clear line of life, the Muslim has a clear purpose in life. The Muslim
knows he is created by Allah. Muslims know they are going to spend
some years in this first life, during which they have to obey God,
because God will question them and hold them responsible for their
public or private deeds, because Allah knows about all the deeds of
all people. The Muslim knows that his deeds in the first life will
determine the type of second life they will live in. The Muslim knows
that this first life is a very short one, one hundred years, more or
less, whereas the second life is an eternal one.
The Eternity of the Second Life
The concept of the eternity of the second life has a tremendous effect
on a Muslims during their first life, because Muslims believe that
their first life determines the shape of their second life. In
addition, this determines the shape of their second life and this
determination will be through the Judgment of Allah, the All just and
Almighty.
With this belief in the second life and the Day of Judgment, the
Muslim's life becomes purposeful and meaningful. Moreover, the
Muslim's standing purpose is to go to Paradise in the second life.
In other words, the Muslim's permanent purpose is to obey Allah, to
submit to Allah, to carry out His orders, and to keep in continues
contact with Him through prayers (five times a day), through fasting
(one month a year), through charity (as often as possible), and
through pilgrimage (once in one's life).
The Need for a Permanent Purpose
Disbelievers have purposes in their lives such as collecting money and
property, indulging in sex, eating, and dancing. But all these
purposes are transient and passing ones. All these purposes come and
go, go up and down. Money comes and goes. Health comes and goes.
Sexual activities cannot continue forever. All these lusts for money,
food and sex cannot answer the individual's questions: so what? Then
What?
However, Islam saves Muslims from the trouble of asking the question,
because Islam makes it clear, from the very beginning, that the
permanent purpose of the Muslim in this life is to obey Allah in order
to go to Paradise in the second life.
We should know that the only way for our salvation in this life and in
the hereafter is to know our Lord who created us, believe in Him, and
worship Him alone.
We should also know our Prophet whom Allah had sent to all mankind,
believe in Him and follow Him. We should, know the religion of truth
which our Lord has commanded us to believe in, and practice it …
Those in search of truth
Who have an open mind and heart,
Islamic Education Foundation
Welcome You.
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To Convey the message of Islam
To Educate Muslims about Islam
To keep in close contact with new Muslims.
Activities:
Offering Courses and presenting lectures about Islam in several
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Teaching new Muslims to receive the Holy Quran.
Helping Non- Muslims embrace Islam and complete the required
procedures
geoff
<e10d3c9f-2cbc-49cf...@z35g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
abolanah12 <abo_abd...@hotmail.com> writes
>ISLAM and the AIM of LIFE
>Those in search of truth
>Who have an open mind and heart,
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/index.htm
--
geoff
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Grimly Curmudgeon
drugs began to take hold. I remember abolanah12
<abo_abd...@hotmail.com> saying something like:
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Eff off, you muppet.
Ash
All Scripture references are quoted from the New King James Version
"For unto us a Child is born, unto us a Son is given; and the government
will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor,
Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace" (Isaiah 9:6).
The messianic prophecy of a child being born who will be the "Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace" has its fulfillment in the life of
Jesus. What does the Bible tell us about "peace" and this "Prince of Peace?"
What is Peace? According to Webster's dictionary, peace is a state of
tranquillity, quiet, calm, freedom from civil disturbance, A state of
security - being secure within a community, freedom from oppression, strife
and disorder. In harmony in personal relations. Untroubled by conflict,
agitation or commotion. Is peace desirable? Do you have it? Would you like
to have it? How may we receive true peace.
Jesus in His last discourse with His disciples before His crucifixion said
to them, "Peace I leave with you. My peace I give to you; not as the world
gives do I give to you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be
afraid" (John 14:27). How is it that Jesus could give His disciples "peace"
when He was about to suffer on Calvary and His disciples would soon go
through the worst experience of their lives up to that time?
Just three days later, at evening on the day of His resurrection, Jesus came
and stood in the midst of His disciples and said to them, "Peace be with
you.-- Then the disciples were glad when they saw the Lord" (John 20:19,
20). What a Prince! Death and the grave could not hold Him.
Review of promises of God in the Old Testament regarding peace
"Thus says the LORD, your Redeemer, The Holy One of Israel: 'I am the LORD
your God, Who teaches you to profit, Who leads you by the way you should go.
Oh, that you had heeded My commandments! Then your peace would have been
like a river, and your righteousness like the waves of the sea' " (Isaiah
48:17, 18).
In this scripture, peace is equated to "heeding" God's commandments.
"Heeding" implies to pay attention. God's commandments were given to guide
mankind in ways of peace and doing what is right. All God's laws are given
to benefit men and women, to direct them in the way of doing what is right
and to protect them from sin and suffering. Paying attention to God's laws
means following them, practicing them, being guided by them. When we follow
God's instructions, our peace will be "like a river." This is God's promise
to us.
What is the promise to those who do not pay attention to God and His
instruction? "There is no peace," says the Lord, "for the wicked" (Isaiah
48:22). That's pretty clear. Those who heed God's commands will have peace.
Those who ignore Him will not have peace.
"The work of righteousness will be peace, and the effect of righteousness,
quietness and assurance forever. My people will dwell in a peaceful
habitation, in secure dwellings, and in quiet resting places" (Isaiah 32:17,
18).
"I will hear what God the Lord will speak, for He will speak peace to His
people and to His saints; but let them not turn back to folly... Mercy and
truth have met together; righteousness and peace have kissed" (Psalm 85:8,
10).
"Great peace have those who love Your law, and nothing causes them to
stumble" (Psalm 119:165).
"You will keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on You, because he
trusts in You. Trust in the Lord forever, for in Yah, the Lord, is
everlasting strength" (Isaiah 26:3, 4). Trusting in the Lord brings peace
and strength.
"For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, says the Lord, thoughts of
peace and not of evil, to give you a future and a hope. Then you will call
upon Me and go and pray to Me, and I will listen to you. And you will seek
Me and find Me, when you search for Me with all you heart" (Jeremiah
29:11-13). God's purpose is to give us peace, a future and a hope if we will
listen to Him and trust Him.
Review of what New Testament writers say about God and His peace?
"And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host
praising God and saying: 'Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace,
goodwill toward men!'" (Luke 2:13, 14).
"Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with
thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God; and the peace of God,
which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through
Christ Jesus" (Philippians 4:6, 7).
"We have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ" (Romans 5:1).
"For He Himself is our peace,... He came and preached peace to you who were
afar off and to those who were near. For through Him we both have access by
one Spirit to the Father" (Ephesians 2:14, 17, 18). Throughout scripture
there are many references that associate Jesus with peace. In this
reference, Jesus is our peace. By being our peace before God, Jesus has made
peace among those who are in union with Him. To have Him is to have His
peace that surpasses all understanding. "This peace is not something that He
gives apart from Himself. It is in Christ, and we receive it only by
receiving Him" (Ministry of Healing, p. 247).
Summary:
a.. Jesus is our Prince of peace (Isaiah 9:6).
b.. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid (John 14:27).
c.. Heed His commandments and your peace will be like a river (Isaiah
48:17, 18).
d.. There is no peace for the wicked (Isaiah 48:22).
e.. The work of doing what is right will be peace (Isaiah 32:17, 18).
f.. The Lord will speak peace to His people, but let them not turn back to
folly (Psalm 85:8, 10).
g.. Great peace have those who love His law (Psalm 119:165).
h.. You will keep him in perfect peace whose mind is stayed on You,
because he trusts You (Isaiah 26:3, 4).
i.. God's thoughts toward you are thoughts of peace and not of evil, to
give you a future and a hope (Jeremiah 29:11-13).
j.. God's purpose is for peace on earth and goodwill toward men (Luke
2:13, 14).
k.. Let your requests be made known to God, and His peace, which surpasses
all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds (Philippians 4:6, 7).
l.. Our peace with God is through our Lord Jesus Christ (Romans 5:1).
m.. Jesus is our peace. Apart from Him, we do not have His peace
(Ephesians 2:14, 17).
"Now when He got into a boat, His disciples followed Him. And suddenly a
great tempest arose on the sea, so that the boat was covered with the waves.
But He was asleep. Then His disciples came to Him and awoke Him, saying,
'Lord, save us! We are perishing!' But He said to them, 'Why are you
fearful, O you of little faith?' Then He arose and rebuked the winds and the
sea, and there was a great calm. So the men marveled, saying, 'Who can this
be, that even the winds and the sea obey Him?" (Matthew 8:23-27).
Christ has the power to calm the tempests of our lives when we yield our
hearts and lives to Him. "However fierce the tempest, those who turn to
Jesus with the cry, 'Lord, save us,' will find deliverance."--Reflecting
Christ, p. 278.
"My peace I give to you;-- Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be
afraid" (John 14:27).
"These things I have spoken to you, that in Me you may have peace. In the
world you will have tribulation; but be of good cheer, I have overcome the
world (John 16:33).
"Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you completely; and may your
whole spirit, soul, and body be preserved blameless at the coming of our
Lord Jesus Christ" (1 Thessalonians 5:23).
Unbeleiver
> The Prince of Peace
> All Scripture references are quoted from the New King James Version
>
I wish you wouldn't try and push this load of fictional crap Ash!
If you believe in such rubbish, then fair enough, but don't regurgitate it
here where it's totally Off-Topic.
It would be far better if you posted it in one of the many so called
"god-bothering groups" where you can spout off at will in congenial company.
Abolish all religions - and stop 99% of all the wars in the world just for a
starters - and I won't add to this all the references of thuggery, buggery,
rape, incest, violence and total disregard of the rights of females written
in all of the so-called 'bibles' of religion - along with all the different
ways that the various passages of it can be interpreted to suit and support
*ANY* views of its readers.
Have a look at the various pages of this website to get idea of that:
http://russellsteapot.com/know-your-bible/
If the above post offends anyone - tough, if you are one of those that
agree, then well done.
The Medway Handyman
geoff
<B...@bobsworld.co.uk> writes
>The Prince of Peace
>All Scripture references are quoted from the New King James Version
Bollocks is bolocks whether xtian, islamic or whatever
You should know better than to post shite like that here
a succinct "fuck off" to the OP or brief refutation would suffice of it
makes you feel better
--
geoff
Ash
"Unbeleiver" <cb@.....tts.is.invalid> wrote in message
news:hecipf$qrq$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> Ash wrote:
>> The Prince of Peace
>> All Scripture references are quoted from the New King James Version
>>
> <Religious bullshit snipped>
>
> I wish you wouldn't try and push this load of fictional crap Ash!
>
> If you believe in such rubbish, then fair enough, but don't regurgitate it
> here where it's totally Off-Topic.
It's not off topic ... but perhaps not in the right Newsgroup as is the
original posting.
> Abolish all religions - and stop 99% of all the wars in the world just for
> a starters - and I won't add to this all the references of thuggery,
> buggery, rape, incest, violence and total disregard of the rights of
> females written in all of the so-called 'bibles' of religion - along with
> all the different ways that the various passages of it can be interpreted
> to suit and support *ANY* views of its readers.
If people truly believed in God then we would not war amongst ourselves and
then blame God because he gave us the free will/choice to decide between
right and wrong.
> Have a look at the various pages of this website to get idea of that:
>
> http://russellsteapot.com/know-your-bible/
>
> If the above post offends anyone - tough, if you are one of those that
> agree, then well done.
Not offended in the least .. but saddened that people can take scripture and
not place it in the context to which it was written.
Ash
geoff
<B...@bobsworld.co.uk> writes
>
>"Unbeleiver" <cb@.....tts.is.invalid> wrote in message
>news:hecipf$qrq$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> Ash wrote:
>>> The Prince of Peace
>>> All Scripture references are quoted from the New King James Version
>>>
>> <Religious bullshit snipped>
>>
>> I wish you wouldn't try and push this load of fictional crap Ash!
>>
>> If you believe in such rubbish, then fair enough, but don't regurgitate it
>> here where it's totally Off-Topic.
>
>It's not off topic ... but perhaps not in the right Newsgroup as is the
>original posting.
>
>> Abolish all religions - and stop 99% of all the wars in the world just for
>> a starters - and I won't add to this all the references of thuggery,
>> buggery, rape, incest, violence and total disregard of the rights of
>> females written in all of the so-called 'bibles' of religion - along with
>> all the different ways that the various passages of it can be interpreted
>> to suit and support *ANY* views of its readers.
>
>If people truly believed in God then we would not war amongst ourselves and
>then blame God because he gave us the free will/choice to decide between
>right and wrong.
Err sorry - why should I believe in your god and the baggage contained
therein.
The Crusaders "truly" believed in (your) god ... very deeply, in fact
>
>> Have a look at the various pages of this website to get idea of that:
>>
>> http://russellsteapot.com/know-your-bible/
>>
>> If the above post offends anyone - tough, if you are one of those that
>> agree, then well done.
>
>Not offended in the least .. but saddened that people can take scripture and
>not place it in the context to which it was written.
>
>Ash
>
>
--
geoff
geoff
<cb@?.?.?.?.?.tts.is.invalid> writes
If they can quote out of context, so can we
--
geoff
The Medway Handyman
That context being 'fiction' I assume?
John Stumbles
> If people truly believed in God
Yeah, yeah: as for the last few 1000s of years: "But we True Believers
reserve the right to slit the throats (and worse) of those who don't (i.e.
we deem not to) follow the True Faith".
And what is the DIY connection to all this? Those of us who think for
ourselves versus those of us who buy our beliefs ready-rolled from
B&Q/CofE/etc....
Unbeleiver
> "Unbeleiver" <cb@.....tts.is.invalid> wrote in message
> news:hecipf$qrq$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> Ash wrote:
>>> The Prince of Peace
>>> All Scripture references are quoted from the New King James Version
>>>
>> <Religious bullshit snipped>
>>
>> I wish you wouldn't try and push this load of fictional crap Ash!
>>
>> If you believe in such rubbish, then fair enough, but don't
>> regurgitate it here where it's totally Off-Topic.
>
> It's not off topic ... but perhaps not in the right Newsgroup as is
> the original posting.
It is totally Off-Topic for the uk.d-i-y group!
>> Abolish all religions - and stop 99% of all the wars in the world
>> just for a starters - and I won't add to this all the references of
>> thuggery, buggery, rape, incest, violence and total disregard of the
>> rights of females written in all of the so-called 'bibles' of
>> religion - along with all the different ways that the various
>> passages of it can be interpreted to suit and support *ANY* views of
>> its readers.
>
> If people truly believed in God then we would not war amongst
> ourselves and then blame God because he gave us the free will/choice
> to decide between right and wrong.
That is a load of cobblers - how do you reconcile that fact that many
preachers of religion (and they must surely 'believe' in a god) actually
encourage war-mongering to 'kill off' the so-called opposition because they
have a perceived different faith to the same god.
And the priests of the catholic faith were very active in doing such things
during the Inquisition.
>No such thing as god, there is only a belief that exists in your mind.
>> Have a look at the various pages of this website to get idea of that:
>>
>> http://russellsteapot.com/know-your-bible/
>>
>> If the above post offends anyone - tough, if you are one of those
>> that agree, then well done.
>
> Not offended in the least .. but saddened that people can take
> scripture and not place it in the context to which it was written.
Don't be "saddened" for me Ash, I have my belief the same as you have
yours - and that sadness could be reciprocated.
The problem is Ash, there is absolutely no truth in the scriptures that you
obviously read. If there were, then the wording would be very precise and
unambiguous and as it is not, then it can be interpreted in whatever
'context' a 'believer' wants - something that I have very recently seen in
another newgroup where someone took part of a passage of the bible to
'prove' a point and I used another part of the very same passage to
contradict that point.
Take the Cumbrian floods, are they a freak of nature, were caused by global
warming or sent by your god in punishment for some so-called sin or other -
and some will interperet some passage or other in the bible to sat that they
are a punishment, then why would your god do that to the innocent as well as
guilty - and also to leave a good family grieving at a death of one of its
members?
Now whilst I am a total unbeliever of any religion, I respect your views
(other than posting such stuff here) - so lets agree to disagree on this.
The Wanderer
No, a simple filtering on all messages coming from GG will suffice. This
thread would never have got off the ground.
--
The Wanderer
Trying to extract useful information from the Internet
is like trying to sip from a firehose.
Steve Firth
> If people truly believed in God then we would not war amongst ourselves
Right... because the Inquisition never happened and the 1,600 years of
skull-splitting, head bashing, stake impaling and other associated
nastiness between Christians of all flavours was merely a figment of the
historians' imagination.
> Not offended in the least .. but saddened that people can take scripture
> and not place it in the context to which it was written.
That's in the context of a bunch of religious zealots hiding in a quarry
in a desert two and a bit thousand years ago?
David in Normandy
> It's not off topic ... but perhaps not in the right Newsgroup as is the
> original posting.
>
It might be more on-topic if you were asking what size nails are best to
use to fasten an irritating git to a cross and what thickness timber is
necessary. How deep should the hole be for the foundation of said cross?
--
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subject line, or it will be automatically deleted
by a filter and not reach my inbox.
TheOldFellow
Don't confuse politics with religion. Unfortunately Bishops/Imams/etc..
have a worse tendency in that way than you do.
The inquisition was a political tool used by the Bishop of Rome to rule
Europe. This wasn't anything to do with religion at all. Nor is the
current Jihadi nonsense.
R.
Peter Scott
> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:52:32 +0000, geoff wrote:
>
>> In message <huadnaFZ9t8FW5TW...@eclipse.net.uk>, Ash
>> <B...@bobsworld.co.uk> writes
>>> The Prince of Peace
>>> All Scripture references are quoted from the New King James Version
>>
>> Bollocks is bolocks whether xtian, islamic or whatever
>>
>> You should know better than to post shite like that here
>>
>> a succinct "fuck off" to the OP or brief refutation would suffice of it
>> makes you feel better
>
> No, a simple filtering on all messages coming from GG will suffice. This
> thread would never have got off the ground.
>
>
>
poaching clergy from the Anglican church, 'Well its better than frying
them like they used to.'
Peter Scott
PeterC
> If people truly believed in God then we would not war amongst ourselves and
> then blame God because he gave us the free will/choice to decide between
> right and wrong.
That could be right - the trouble comes from all the religious shit-heads
that will infest human societies.
--
Peter.
The head of a pin will hold more angels if
it's been flattened with an angel-grinder.
The Medway Handyman
> Ash wrote:
>
>> It's not off topic ... but perhaps not in the right Newsgroup as is
>> the original posting.
>>
>
> It might be more on-topic if you were asking what size nails are best
> to use to fasten an irritating git to a cross and what thickness
> timber is necessary. How deep should the hole be for the foundation
> of said cross?
a) 6 x 90mm coach bolts
b) 150 x 50 tanalised
c) 2 bags of post crete should do the job.
PeterC
> David in Normandy wrote:
>> Ash wrote:
>>
>>> It's not off topic ... but perhaps not in the right Newsgroup as is
>>> the original posting.
>>>
>>
>> It might be more on-topic if you were asking what size nails are best
>> to use to fasten an irritating git to a cross and what thickness
>> timber is necessary. How deep should the hole be for the foundation
>> of said cross?
>
> a) 6 x 90mm coach bolts
> b) 150 x 50 tanalised
> c) 2 bags of post crete should do the job.
Nah - modify a pair of sandals.
Dave Plowman (News)
TheOldFellow <theold...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The inquisition was a political tool used by the Bishop of Rome to rule
> Europe. This wasn't anything to do with religion at all. Nor is the
> current Jihadi nonsense.
Of course it is. All those types follow the instructions in their 'holy
book' and they are so badly written you can read what you want from them.
--
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Mike Tomlinson
<B...@bobsworld.co.uk> writes
>Not offended in the least .. but saddened that people can take scripture and
>not place it in the context to which it was written.
You're a fine one, prattling on about context while posting religious
bullshit in a group in which it is totally off-topic.
Do fuck off, there's a good little bible-basher.
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David in Normandy
> David in Normandy wrote:
>> Ash wrote:
>>
>>> It's not off topic ... but perhaps not in the right Newsgroup as is
>>> the original posting.
>>>
>> It might be more on-topic if you were asking what size nails are best
>> to use to fasten an irritating git to a cross and what thickness
>> timber is necessary. How deep should the hole be for the foundation
>> of said cross?
>
> a) 6 x 90mm coach bolts
> b) 150 x 50 tanalised
> c) 2 bags of post crete should do the job.
>
>
Great, thanks. A few more questions:
1. Does the building inspector need to check the foundations?
2. What about elfin safety - is there a risk of tetanus if the nails
aren't sterilised before use?
3. Does the person being crucified need to wear a hard-hat?
Steve Firth
> The inquisition was a political tool used by the Bishop of Rome to rule
> Europe. This wasn't anything to do with religion at all. Nor is the
> current Jihadi nonsense.
Yes, I've heard that bollocks before.
It's bollocks.
One could avoid the Inquisition by becoming a Catholic. To claim it is
nothing to do with religion is drivel.
geoff
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(Makes sign of the holy hacksaws)
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geoff
geoff
<Davidin...@nospam.nospam> writes
>Ash wrote:
>
>> It's not off topic ... but perhaps not in the right Newsgroup as is
>>the original posting.
>>
>
>It might be more on-topic if you were asking what size nails are best
>to use to fasten an irritating git to a cross and what thickness timber
>is necessary. How deep should the hole be for the foundation of said
>cross?
>
And what would health and safety have to say about it ?
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geoff
<Davidin...@nospam.nospam> writes
>The Medway Handyman wrote:
>> David in Normandy wrote:
>>> Ash wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's not off topic ... but perhaps not in the right Newsgroup as is
>>>> the original posting.
>>>>
>>> It might be more on-topic if you were asking what size nails are best
>>> to use to fasten an irritating git to a cross and what thickness
>>> timber is necessary. How deep should the hole be for the foundation
>>> of said cross?
>> a) 6 x 90mm coach bolts
>> b) 150 x 50 tanalised
>> c) 2 bags of post crete should do the job.
>>
>
>Great, thanks. A few more questions:
>1. Does the building inspector need to check the foundations?
No doubt "roof" will be along in a minute to say it should only be
tackled by a professional
>2. What about elfin safety - is there a risk of tetanus if the nails
>aren't sterilised before use?
"Easy with that spear Longinus ... Oh bugger"
>3. Does the person being crucified need to wear a hard-hat?
Thats' a thorny question
>
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The Medway Handyman
> The Medway Handyman wrote:
>> David in Normandy wrote:
>>> Ash wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's not off topic ... but perhaps not in the right Newsgroup as is
>>>> the original posting.
>>>>
>>> It might be more on-topic if you were asking what size nails are
>>> best to use to fasten an irritating git to a cross and what
>>> thickness timber is necessary. How deep should the hole be for the
>>> foundation of said cross?
>>
>> a) 6 x 90mm coach bolts
>> b) 150 x 50 tanalised
>> c) 2 bags of post crete should do the job.
>>
>>
>
> Great, thanks. A few more questions:
> 1. Does the building inspector need to check the foundations?
Temporary structure, I think we would be OK.
> 2. What about elfin safety - is there a risk of tetanus if the nails
> aren't sterilised before use?
Good point. I was planning on using passivated - would that do?
> 3. Does the person being crucified need to wear a hard-hat?
No, but the persons errecting the cross would need hi vis & safety sandals.
Clot
:) :)