Reliable UK Lighting supplier
ad...@lazyrecords.co.uk
I just wanted to tell you about this company - Lumos Lighting -
http://www.lumoslighting.co.uk
I've just re-lit my whole house and these guys provided some really
interesting designs with fibre optic kits, led's and all the othjer
regular stuff.
They provided me with some really cool lighting designs so I could
actually see what my rooms would be like before I even purchased
anything (apparently these drawings tell you about light levels and
stuff but I was just amazed at how life-like they were :D )
Their onlien catalogue is great but if you want proper service, fire
them a quick email.
So, yes they're highly recommended.
Cya
Adam
Guy King
from ad...@lazyrecords.co.uk contains these words:
> Cya
Dunno what that means, but welcome to my spam-bin. I've rarely seen such
a transparent attempt to promote something.
You must think we were all born yesterday.
--
Skipweasel
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.
Lobster
> I just wanted to tell you about this company - Lumos Lighting -
> http://www.lumoslighting.co.uk
Twat:
Domain name:
lumoslighting.co.uk
Registrant:
Lumos Lighting
Registrant type:
Not supplied
Registrant's address:
Keithley Lodge
Newcastle-Upon-Tyne
NE12 9JA
GB
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Domain name:
lazyrecords.co.uk
Registrant:
Lazy Records
Trading as:
Lazy Records
Registrant type:
Not supplied
Registrant's address:
Keithley Lodge
Newcastle-Upon-Tyne
NE12 9JA
GB
Bob Eager
> Hi guys,
>
> I just wanted to tell you about this company - Lumos Lighting -
> http://www.lumoslighting.co.uk
What a poor attempt at spamming. Why can't you be honest, and admit you
are connected to the company?
Let's see:
Domain name:
lazyrecords.co.uk
Registrant's address:
Keithley Lodge
Newcastle-Upon-Tyne
NE12 9JA
GB
---------
Domain name:
lumoslighting.co.uk
Registrant's address:
Keithley Lodge
Newcastle-Upon-Tyne
NE12 9JA
GB
Oh dear. A dishonest trader.
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Peter Parry
>I've just re-lit my whole house
Crickey - you only did your whole kitchen in May, must have been a
really crap company that did that job if you have just had to do it
all again :-
"Thought i'd point you to a webpage of a company that have just
redone my kitchen. ...lumoslighting..."
From: ad...@lazyrecords.co.uk
Newsgroups: free.uk.diy.home
Subject: Re: Kitchen lighting
Date: 19 May 2006 10:42:28 -0700
Message-ID: <1148060548.0...@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
A business best avoided I suppose, especially as they unlawfully
attempt to reduce your legal rights as a purchaser and don't seem to
have heard of the Distance Selling Regulations -
"If the item(s) are not required for whatever reason we will collect
it & offer a full refund subject to the item(s) being returned to us
in a resaleable condition (a £15.00 handling charge will apply). "
"Lumos Lighting
Adam Gardner
8 Brentwood Avenue, Jesmond
Newcastle-Upon-Tyne"
"Adam Gardner posted 22nd July 2006 22:18:14
Congratulations, you're now listed in the Lazy Records Niche Music
Directory. "
Just good friends?
--
Peter Parry.
http://www.wpp.ltd.uk/
Guy King
from "Bob Eager" <rd...@spamcop.net> contains these words:
> Oh dear. A dishonest trader.
And a wanker to boot. Just think, one stupid bit of trying to be clever
has alienated an entire market sector!
As you said, why not just say "I've just opened and would you like to
have a look at my wonderful stuff?"
Dave Plowman (News)
> And a wanker to boot. Just think, one stupid bit of trying to be clever
> has alienated an entire market sector!
> As you said, why not just say "I've just opened and would you like to
> have a look at my wonderful stuff?"
They also mention shipping to anywhere in the UK 'normally within 5-10
days'. That's not good enough in these days of internet shopping. I'd
expect same day dispatch, next day delivery.
--
*I finally got my head together, now my body is falling apart.
Dave Plowman da...@davenoise.co.uk London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.
ad...@lazyrecords.co.uk
I am related to this company, yes.
We registered the domain about a year ago, we have since moved premises
- why would that registered address mean we are dishonest traders?
Our full contact details are posted clearly, on the bottom of every
page of our website. Please feel free to call / email us if you still
believe we are dishonest.
We ARE NOT dishonest traders, and pride ourselves on a secure,
easy-to-use website with all related contact & privacy information. Our
credit transactions are handled securely by Barclay's PLC (do you think
they would deal with our payments without proper authentication of
authenticity?)
And about the distance selling regulations -
Quote from the Office of Fair Trading -
"The consumer may, at your discretion, be charged the direct cost of
returning the goods, but you must tell them about this in the written
information you give them."
Quote from our website -
"We will be pleased to arrange a full refund of the purchase price,
within a maximum of 30 days, subject to the following :-
You must notify us of your wish to cancel within 7 days of receipt of
delivery of the purchased goods.
You must return the goods unused and in good condition in their
original packaging."
If the item(s) ordered are faulty or damaged we will collect free of
charge & replace.
"If the item(s) are not required for whatever reason we will collect it
& offer a full refund subject to the item(s) being returned to us in a
resaleable condition (a £15.00 handling charge will apply)."
I see NO WAY in which we are contravening the Distance Selling
Regulations - but please feel free to tell me if you're seeing
something I'm not.
At the end of the day, you're all looking for suppliers you can rely
on, we firmly believe we are that company ... so if it is a bit of
shameless self promotion - so what? It helps everyone out in the long
run.
Adam
Steve Firth
> Please feel free to call / email us if you still
> believe we are dishonest.
Well, you're personally dishonest since you pretended to be a satisfied
customer rather than declaring your interest. You're also a fuckwit for
posting off-topic commercial advertising and a double-dyed fuckwit for top
posting.
TBH the best advice you will receive is coming up now:
You're in a hole, so stop digging.
Apologise.
Then don't try to sell here ever again.
However since you're a fuckwit (see above) I suspect that you will continue
to hamfistedly put your foot in it up to the hip.
Tony Bryer
> I am related to this company, yes.
So why didn't you say so instead of feeding us this apparently
unsolicited testimonial:
"I just wanted to tell you about this company - Lumos Lighting -
http://www.lumoslighting.co.uk
I've just re-lit my whole house and these guys provided some really
interesting designs with fibre optic kits, led's and all the othjer
regular stuff."
Everyone who reads this group (including Google) has now got Lumos
Lighting filed as a company not to do business with.
--
Tony Bryer SDA UK 'Software to build on' http://www.sda.co.uk
Bob Eager
wrote:
> Everyone who reads this group (including Google) has now got Lumos
> Lighting filed as a company not to do business with.
Don't think I'd want to deal with Lazy Records, either!
Bob Eager
> For the record,
>
> I am related to this company, yes.
>
> We registered the domain about a year ago, we have since moved premises
> - why would that registered address mean we are dishonest traders?
Because you didon't declare that interest - an underhand and dishonest
move. Now, anyone who Googles for
Lumos Lighting
or
Lazy Records
will see that they are connected to someone who pretends to be a
satisfied customer, when in fact they are engaging in misleading and
untruthful advertising.
Now do you see?
Clint Sharp
ad...@lazyrecords.co.uk writes
>At the end of the day, you're all looking for suppliers you can rely
>on, we firmly believe we are that company ... so if it is a bit of
>shameless self promotion - so what? It helps everyone out in the long
>run.
>
>Adam
>
Of course, you are correct, your shameless self promotion does help
every one out in the long run, all these comments are archived, in
future anyone who cares to Google for www.lumoslighting.co.uk or
www.lazyrecords.co.uk will discover that Adam Gardner is not averse to
using underhanded, deceptive, if not outright dishonest tactics in his
business practices.
--
Clint Sharp
Guy King
from "Bob Eager" <rd...@spamcop.net> contains these words:
> Don't think I'd want to deal with Lazy Records, either!
Not if they're associated with that bunch of liars at Lumos Lighting of
Newcastle upon Tyne.
Oh dear - another referrence for Google. Ooops. I'm not very good at
this, am I?
Guy King
from ad...@lazyrecords.co.uk contains these words:
> We ARE NOT dishonest traders,
Yes you are - the first time you show your face on a newsgroup you start
with a lie. That's dishonest.
Why would anyone trust you if you make a start like that?
Guy King
from Steve Firth <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> contains these words:
> You're in a hole, so stop digging.
Now there's a lesson British Gas could do with learning - and perhaps
passing on to T. Blair.
raden
<da...@davenoise.co.uk> writes
>In article <3130303034323...@zetnet.co.uk>,
> Guy King <guy....@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
>> > Oh dear. A dishonest trader.
>
>> And a wanker to boot. Just think, one stupid bit of trying to be clever
>> has alienated an entire market sector!
>
>> As you said, why not just say "I've just opened and would you like to
>> have a look at my wonderful stuff?"
>
>They also mention shipping to anywhere in the UK 'normally within 5-10
>days'. That's not good enough in these days of internet shopping. I'd
>expect same day dispatch, next day delivery.
>
I presume that what it means is that our friendly spammer carries no
stock and only orders on demand
--
geoff
raden
ad...@lazyrecords.co.uk writes
>Hi guys,
>
>I just wanted to tell you about this company
... ...
snip crap
>
>So, yes they're highly recommended.
>
>Cya
>
Why do they always say "Cya" or something like that ?
dead giveaway before you even read the bullshit they come up with
--
geoff
raden
>
>I am related to this company, yes.
>
>We registered the domain about a year ago, we have since moved premises
>- why would that registered address mean we are dishonest traders?
It doesn't but
"Hi guys,
I just wanted to tell you about this company - Crappo Lighting -
http://www.crappolighting.co.uk
I've just re-lit my whole house and these guys provided some really
interesting designs with fibre optic kits, led's and all the othjer
regular stuff.
They provided me with some really cool lighting designs so I could
actually see what my rooms would be like before I even purchased
anything (apparently these drawings tell you about light levels and
stuff but I was just amazed at how life-like they were :D )
Their onlien catalogue is great but if you want proper service, fire
them a quick email.
So, yes they're highly recommended."
indicates that you're a lying cunt
... and a clueless spammer - commercial posting is against the NG
charter
so bugger off, there's a good boi, before we report you and your website
to your ISP for contravening their T&Cs
--
geoff
raden
<pe...@wpp.ltd.uk> writes
>On 3 Aug 2006 03:34:57 -0700, ad...@lazyrecords.co.uk wrote:
>
>
>>I've just re-lit my whole house
>
>Crickey - you only did your whole kitchen in May,
Ha ha, just thought of the eggcup full of petrol thread !
--
geoff
Guy King
from raden <ra...@kateda.org> contains these words:
> Why do they always say "Cya" or something like that ?
What's it mean, anyway?
raden
<guy....@zetnet.co.uk> writes
>The message <62zyMqK0zl0EFw$+@ntlworld.com>
>from raden <ra...@kateda.org> contains these words:
>
>> Why do they always say "Cya" or something like that ?
>
>What's it mean, anyway?
>
--
geoff
Guy King
from raden <ra...@kateda.org> contains these words:
> >> Why do they always say "Cya" or something like that ?
> >
> >What's it mean, anyway?
> >
> I think it's geekspeek for "I'm a spamming bastard"
Oh, right, some sort of yoofspeak.
Peter Parry
>I am related to this company, yes.
In what way exactly? As in "run it"?
>We
Me?
>registered the domain about a year ago, we have since moved premises
>- why would that registered address mean we are dishonest traders?
Because you don't tell the truth. Because you try to hide behind
subterfuge, because you claim things which are not so. Because you
tried to pretend to be a customer when you are not. Will that do for
starters?
>Our
>credit transactions are handled securely by Barclay's PLC (do you think
>they would deal with our payments without proper authentication of
>authenticity?)
I'm not quite sure what "authentication of authenticity" is as it is
a language other than English but merchant service providers
regularly provide services to dishonest, and in some cases outright
criminal, organisations. They (eventually) don't do so when they get
to know about it but merchant service providers don't do any vetting
of customers trading standards or customer service. merely their
ability not to con the merchant service provider.
>And about the distance selling regulations -
>
>Quote from the Office of Fair Trading -
>
>"The consumer may, at your discretion, be charged the direct cost of
>returning the goods, but you must tell them about this in the written
>information you give them."
I'll humour your stupidity. Read Statutory Instrument 2000 No. 2334
rather than the numpty guide.
>Quote from our website -
>"We will be pleased to arrange a full refund of the purchase price,
>within a maximum of 30 days, subject to the following :-
>You must notify us of your wish to cancel within 7 days of receipt of
>delivery of the purchased goods.
That's wrong for a start, it's seven _working_ days starting the day
_after_ receipt of the goods.
>You must return the goods unused and in good condition in their
>original packaging."
That's wrong as well. The customer has no obligation to return the
goods.
>If the item(s) ordered are faulty or damaged we will collect free of
>charge & replace.
Nothing to do with SI2334 but you have that wrong as well, your
statutory duty is to refund the consumer all their costs. _You_
don't have a choice in the matter.
>"If the item(s) are not required for whatever reason we will collect it
>& offer a full refund subject to the item(s) being returned to us in a
>resaleable condition (a £15.00 handling charge will apply)."
That's wrong as well (at least you are consistent). A handling or
restocking charge is illegal. You can charge only the direct cost of
recovery (the exact postage cost of collection alone; nothing if the
customer returns the goods at their expense).
>I see NO WAY in which we are contravening the Distance Selling
>Regulations - but please feel free to tell me if you're seeing
>something I'm not.
I'm sure you don't. In fact you know so little about the subject
that your customers are free to reject and require you to collect the
goods at any time within 3 months and seven working days after
receipt entirely at your expense.
"11(4) Where neither paragraph (2) nor (3) applies, the cancellation
period ends on the expiry of the period of three months and seven
working days beginning with the day after the day on which the
consumer receives the goods."
>At the end of the day, you're all looking for suppliers you can rely
>on, we firmly believe we are that company
I'm sure you believe you are that company. That doesn't make it so
or even remotely close to being so. Why on earth would anyone chose
to rely upon a company where the owner tries to pretend he is someone
he isn't to dishonestly promote the company? Are you really that
short of satisfied customers that you can't find a real one to
recommend you?
>so if it is a bit of shameless self promotion
No, it is brainless self promotion and dishonest, you don't seem to
understand the difference.
> so what? It helps everyone out in the long run.
It does indeed. Anyone researching your company will now know much
more about it. They will know it employs trickery in futile attempts
to attract customers; that it doesn't understand customers statutory
rights and that it tries to limit them. I'm sure they will draw
their own conclusions.
dwbh
FYI, "Cya" is shorthand for "see ya", or "see you later". Personally, I
stopped using it around 1998.