Stuff it - this is ridiculous

[David.WE.Roberts]

<FX> "The Heat is On" playing in the background.

I've held out against turning the CH back on from its 'frost protection'
mode but this morning it was 5.9C at 07:00 outside.

So the heating is back on for the moment.

On pondering if this weather was atypical I remember that last year around
this time the Suffolk Show had the second day cancelled because of extreme
high winds plus heavy rain.

However I do think it was warmer.

Grumble.

Dave R

[dennis@home]

Its normal.
Clear skys allow radiation to cool the ground.
Wet and windy blocks it so its warmer.

There are exceptions depending on where the wind is coming from.

[Nightjar]

On 24/05/2013 07:24, David.WE.Roberts wrote:

The Met Office figures for this month are, of course, only provisional,
but the last time we had averages this low in May was 1965. That was
when it was claimed we were heading for a new ice age.

Colin Bignell

[Dave Liquorice]

On 24 May 2013 06:24:17 GMT, David.WE.Roberts wrote:

> I've held out against turning the CH back on from its 'frost
> protection' mode but this morning it was 5.9C at 07:00 outside.

Pah, tropical. Night before last 0.6 C minimum, last night was warm with
a min of 1.8 C. Odd bit of snow yesterday, very wet sleet this morning.

Currently 3.5 C F5 NE'ly Wind chill about -10 C.

> On pondering if this weather was atypical I remember that last year
> around this time the Suffolk Show had the second day cancelled because
> of extreme high winds plus heavy rain.

I don't think it's that out of the ordinary as such but the late spring
is. Our daffs are just going over, it's only this week that the Rowans
have started to break bud, the Birches were thinking about it but appear
to have stopped. At a rough guesstimate I'd say we are about four weeks
behind "normal".

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[Broadback]

I guess the power companies are rubbing their hands in glee. I feel
sorry for the poor elderly who struggle to keep warm in the Winter, some
must be desperate now.

[The Medway Handyman]

On 24/05/2013 07:24, David.WE.Roberts wrote:

I was finishing off a decking job yesterday.

Torrential rain, then sunshine (so warm I had to take my coat off), then
hail stones - all within an hour!

I blame the Guvmint....

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[The Medway Handyman]

On 24/05/2013 08:51, Nightjar wrote:

Was that before or after the ozone layer was going to kill us all?

[Nightjar]

The chap running a local nursery reckons his plants are about six weeks
late this year.

Colin Bignell

[Andy Cap]

Put a vest on !

[Mark]

OTOH the cold winter is the main reason that we're not still in
recession. ;-)
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[Mike Tomlinson]

In article <A-6dnTMjUPadvwLM...@brightview.co.uk>, Andy
Cap <snruwf...@trashmail.net> writes

>Put a vest on !

"Ne'er cast a clout 'til May be out"

never was a saying so apt.

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[Tim Watts]

Last year, IIRC we had a short spell of flaming heat in June was it? Then
some fool announced the hosepipe ban and that was it for the rest of the
year.

This year it got quite toasty around May Day. However I have a pile of
guttering round the back and I was going to book yesterday and today off to
fit it (having spent 3 weekends doing all the enabling works, drains, last
bit of gutterboard, marking level datum marks all the way around to gauge
the 1:600 fall against -

(that adds up around 2 sides to nearly 30mm and I don;t have a lot of height
to play with and I don;t want the guttering coming below the board as that
looks wrong).

I'm hoping for 2 dry warmish days next week. Still gave me a chance to order
a set of LadderMats (rubber grips that can be used to level up) and a cheap
standoff so I do not have to lean backwards (soffits are 450mm deep
including gutter - and obviously I cannot rest the ladder on the guttering
I'm fitting).

Bah...

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[Rod Speed]

"Broadback" <messag...@j-towill.co.uk> wrote in message
news:knn6i7$pjo$2...@dont-email.me...

> On 24/05/2013 08:51, Nightjar wrote:
>> On 24/05/2013 07:24, David.WE.Roberts wrote:
>>> <FX> "The Heat is On" playing in the background.
>>>
>>> I've held out against turning the CH back on from its 'frost protection'
>>> mode but this morning it was 5.9C at 07:00 outside.
>>>
>>> So the heating is back on for the moment.
>>>
>>> On pondering if this weather was atypical I remember that last year
>>> around
>>> this time the Suffolk Show had the second day cancelled because of
>>> extreme
>>> high winds plus heavy rain.
>>>
>>> However I do think it was warmer.
>>
>> The Met Office figures for this month are, of course, only provisional,
>> but the last time we had averages this low in May was 1965. That was
>> when it was claimed we were heading for a new ice age.

> I guess the power companies are rubbing their hands in glee. I feel sorry
> for the poor elderly who struggle to keep warm in the Winter, some must be
> desperate now.

If they are, they should get off their lard arses and get an electric
blanket and use that during the day as well as at night.

[Bill Wright]

Rod Speed wrote:

> If they are, they should get off their lard arses and get an electric
> blanket and use that during the day as well as at night.

It doesn't work. You have to move about. And if the room is cold you can
get all sorts of lung problems.

Bill

[Jonathan]

On May 24, 8:51 am, Nightjar <c...@insert.my.surname.here.me.uk>
wrote:

The Times today reckons it is going to be the coldest spring since
1962.

Jonathan

[Gazz]

"The Medway Handyman" <davi...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:a8Fnt.20635$N06....@fx12.am4...

Naaah, blame wodney speed, he's just re-surfaced and the weathers gone crap
again :)

My song thrushes are a good month late this year, only just finishing laying
their first clutches of eggs, this time last year they had raised a set of
chicks and were a few days off hatching the next clutch.

[Scott M]

Tim Watts wrote:

> Last year, IIRC we had a short spell of flaming heat in June was it? Then
> some fool announced the hosepipe ban and that was it for the rest of the
> year.

June, be damned! It was February or March - very dry early in the year.


Scott

[Tim Watts]

Yes, you are right, I think. June had a week or two where it was very hot
then it was back to pissing it down...

[John Rumm]

On 24/05/2013 11:12, Tim Watts wrote:
> On Friday 24 May 2013 07:24 David.WE.Roberts wrote in uk.d-i-y:
>
>> <FX> "The Heat is On" playing in the background.
>>
>> I've held out against turning the CH back on from its 'frost protection'
>> mode but this morning it was 5.9C at 07:00 outside.
>>
>> So the heating is back on for the moment.
>>
>> On pondering if this weather was atypical I remember that last year around
>> this time the Suffolk Show had the second day cancelled because of extreme
>> high winds plus heavy rain.
>>
>> However I do think it was warmer.
>>
>
> Last year, IIRC we had a short spell of flaming heat in June was it? Then
> some fool announced the hosepipe ban and that was it for the rest of the
> year.

I seem to recall lots of stuff about "we need rain, but not ordinary
rain cos that just runs off, we need torrential rain that carries on for
months to restore ground water levels"...

Be careful what you wish for ;-)




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[soup]

dennis@home wrote:

> Clear skys allow radiation to cool the ground.
> Wet and windy blocks it so its warmer.

'S where the "too cold for snow" saying comes from .

It snows from clouds (NSS).
No clouds mean no snow
It only gets really cold when there is no cloud cover
So very cold = no snow (ish)

Cue raft of people 'saying' "ah but I remember the snow coming down at
fourteen feet an hour and it was minus 50 so yah."

Didn't say it worked in all circumstances (or even at all ) just
explaining where the saying is thought to originate.

[Mary Fisher]

On Friday, May 24, 2013 9:02:11 AM UTC+1, Broadback wrote:

>
> I guess the power companies are rubbing their hands in glee. I feel
>
> sorry for the poor elderly who struggle to keep warm in the Winter, some
>
> must be desperate now.

We're regarded as elderly but our thermostat is set at 4C and turned off completely during the night, it hasn't come on since the snow and we're not cold.

Wool clothing and a hot water bottle are the answer. And no, we don't look like M. Michelin!

That's insulation of the body, insulation of the house is even more important and free for the elderly. Sadly we can't take advantage of that, we insulated ours many years ago when it cost.

The power companies won't be gleeful about our payments either, we use well below the local average of gas and electricity.

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 24/05/13 20:26, soup wrote:
> dennis@home wrote:
>
>> Clear skys allow radiation to cool the ground.
>> Wet and windy blocks it so its warmer.
>
> 'S where the "too cold for snow" saying comes from .
>
> It snows from clouds (NSS).
> No clouds mean no snow
> It only gets really cold when there is no cloud cover

false.

> So very cold = no snow (ish)
>
> Cue raft of people 'saying' "ah but I remember the snow coming down at
> fourteen feet an hour and it was minus 50 so yah."
>
> Didn't say it worked in all circumstances (or even at all ) just
> explaining where the saying is thought to originate.
>

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[Adrian]

In message <7XkWCXCF...@jasper.org.uk>, Mike Tomlinson
<mi...@jasper.org.uk> writes

>In article <A-6dnTMjUPadvwLM...@brightview.co.uk>, Andy
>Cap <snruwf...@trashmail.net> writes
>
>>Put a vest on !
>
>"Ne'er cast a clout 'til May be out"
>
>never was a saying so apt.
>

But the may referred to is not the month, it is the flower.


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in 1229925 20130524 103149 Mike Tomlinson <mi...@jasper.org.uk> wrote:
>In article <A-6dnTMjUPadvwLM...@brightview.co.uk>, Andy
>Cap <snruwf...@trashmail.net> writes
>
>>Put a vest on !
>
>"Ne'er cast a clout 'til May be out"
>
>never was a saying so apt.

I could handle that if I thought June, July, August would be any better ...

[Scott M]

John Rumm wrote:

> I seem to recall lots of stuff about "we need rain, but not ordinary
> rain cos that just runs off, we need torrential rain that carries on for
> months to restore ground water levels"...

I'm not sure if you're saying that tongue-in-cheek, but something I
remember years ago from a WaterBoard bod on the radio was that the ideal
conditions to keep the reservoirs (and presumably aquafers too) topped
up was a steady drizzle. Mind you, 8 months of heavy downpour did manage
to raise the aquafer levels to about 6" above ground level which was
desperately needed. Hopefully properly topped up we can now look forward
to another several years without endless rain (and I don't, as a rule,
mind it, but last year took the ....!)

Scott

[Scott M]

Tim Watts wrote:
> On Friday 24 May 2013 18:12 Scott M wrote in uk.d-i-y:
>
>> Tim Watts wrote:
>>
>>> Last year, IIRC we had a short spell of flaming heat in June was it? Then
>>> some fool announced the hosepipe ban and that was it for the rest of the
>>> year.

>> June, be damned! It was February or March - very dry early in the year.

> Yes, you are right, I think. June had a week or two where it was very hot
> then it was back to pissing it down...

I remember clearly the week early in the year where they announced they
were contemplating hosepipe bans because a) it was when the days were
still about 8 hours long and b) it started p'ing down the next week and
didn't stop! Mind you, now you mention it, I must have been fettling
brake pipes with my new, whizzy pipe flanging tool[1] in June and it was
nice then. Odd for June; my abiding memories of Junes past are wrapping
up more than I would in February!

Scott

[1] OB DIY!

[Rod Speed]

Bill Wright <bi...@invalid.com> wrote

> Rod Speed wrote

>> If they are, they should get off their lard arses and get an electric
>> blanket and use that during the day as well as at night.

> It doesn't work.

Works for me and plenty I know too.

> You have to move about.

Doesn’t stop you moving about at times.

> And if the room is cold you can get all sorts of lung problems.

I don’t and neither does anyone I know who uses them.

[bm]

"David.WE.Roberts" <nos...@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:b08fch...@mid.individual.net...

> <FX> "The Heat is On" playing in the background.
>
> I've held out against turning the CH back on from its 'frost protection'
> mode but this morning it was 5.9C at 07:00 outside.
>
> So the heating is back on for the moment.
>
> On pondering if this weather was atypical I remember that last year around
> this time the Suffolk Show had the second day cancelled because of extreme
> high winds plus heavy rain.
>
> However I do think it was warmer.
>

> Grumble.
>
> Dave R

Well, today I was brave enough to wear a T-shirt, but tonight the leccy
blanket is on yet again.