Very OT but very nice.
Peter Ceresole
and pin-sharp bright sun, and the brightest, most perfect double rainbow
I've ever seen, edge to edge. The space between the arcs was midnight
dark...
Then a 747 swam out through the arch like a hippo (we're under the approach
to 28L at Heathrow) streaming long thick trails of condensation from every
single protrusion, flap fairing and edge, pod, pylon, elevator and winglet.
And then, just to reinforce the hippo picture, two gorgeous
red-green-yellow, long tailed parakeets flew by; there's a large flock of
them that lives in Richmond Park and they sometimes roost in the poplars at
the end of our garden.
In the time it took me to calm down and type that, the South wind has blown
the black away and big clouds are scudding low across a deep blue sky with
the approaching aircraft crabbing in the crosswind. I can just see an A320
heading for Heathrow while pointing at Southampton.
Too much!
--
Peter
Elliott Roper
<pe...@cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> It's just gone spectacular here in Greater West London; huge black clouds
> and pin-sharp bright sun, and the brightest, most perfect double rainbow
> I've ever seen, edge to edge. The space between the arcs was midnight
> dark...
>
> Then a 747 swam out through the arch like a hippo (we're under the approach
> to 28L at Heathrow) streaming long thick trails of condensation from every
> single protrusion, flap fairing and edge, pod, pylon, elevator and winglet.
ahh... the art in applied physics. There is so much wonder in little
things.
Keeps your engine running doesn't it?
Tom Duckering
I saw that from my office on stockley park (nr heathrow)...
Bella Jones
pe...@cara.demon.co.uk wrote on 30/4/03 7:28 pm:
Fabulous! My offering from dusty central London is the fact that while I get
full sun in the morning (east facing windows), I then get a double dose in
the evening, with the late sun reflecting off the office windows across the
way. No-wonder my geranium's gone crazy. Sometimes, in the morning, if the
sun's angle is right, I get two suns rising, due again to a reflection.
To yank this round to Macs, what you describe there could be an advert -
just put a big Apple logo on the side of the plane... :-)
David Kennedy
Very poetic Peter, the weekend break obviously did the job for you !
--
David Kennedy
Bella Jones
david....@no.spam.today.thanks.invalid wrote on 1/5/03 8:24 am:
>
> Very poetic Peter, the weekend break obviously did the job for you !
[wildly OT]
David - I just checked out your site. Love it - recipes to DIE for. I may
even make Beef Rendang for some friends next week.
:-)
Bella
Julian Barkway
multitudes, agog with barely concealed anticipation:
>Then a 747 swam out through the arch like a hippo (we're under the approach
>to 28L at Heathrow) streaming long thick trails of condensation from every
>single protrusion, flap fairing and edge, pod, pylon, elevator and winglet.
<Alan Partridge, The Day Today incarnation>
Looking strangely like an enormous hippo, but a hippo with wings and four
jet engines...
</AP>
So did you get your camera out? Tell me there's a jpeg somewhere...
As an occasional photographer, I'd willingly sacrifice several of my future
offspring for such a picture!
Hugh Browton
(in message <BAD67781.F157%bella...@yahoo.co.uk>):
> in article BAD5D4649...@192.168.0.2, Peter Ceresole at
> pe...@cara.demon.co.uk wrote on 30/4/03 7:28 pm:
>
>> It's just gone spectacular here in Greater West London; huge black clouds
>> and pin-sharp bright sun, and the brightest, most perfect double rainbow
>> I've ever seen, edge to edge. The space between the arcs was midnight
>> dark...
>>
>
> To yank this round to Macs, what you describe there could be an advert -
> just put a big Apple logo on the side of the plane... :-)
>
No, no Bella - this thread deserves to stay off-topic! (cf Section 6 of the
meta-FAQ)
JMPOV
--
regards
hugh
hugh at clarity point uk point co
(by the sea) (using Hogwasher)
Christian Hewitt
Ohh.. sickly park.. you poor thing. I spent a year there and it was awfull.
I get the pleasure of sunny Hammersmith now :o)
CH
Bella Jones
useneth@**.not.uk wrote on 1/5/03 9:51 am:
>>
>> To yank this round to Macs, what you describe there could be an advert -
>> just put a big Apple logo on the side of the plane... :-)
>>
>
> No, no Bella - this thread deserves to stay off-topic! (cf Section 6 of the
> meta-FAQ)
Oh god, sorry. Where can I find this meta-FAQ? Anyone got it? I have
probably violated it many times already... ;-)
Peter Ceresole
jbarkwayLEA...@mac.com (Julian Barkway) wrote:
><Alan Partridge, The Day Today incarnation>
>Looking strangely like an enormous hippo, but a hippo with wings and four
>jet engines...
></AP>
Well 747s do look like hippos- except for the SPs, that look like tadpoles.
Big tadpoles, mind...
>So did you get your camera out? Tell me there's a jpeg somewhere...
Nah. I just sat at the window and gawped.
>As an occasional photographer, I'd willingly sacrifice several of my future
>offspring for such a picture!
For me, it's in my mind so I don't need a photo.
But go to Heathrow on a rainy day and stand on the inside perimeter road,
under the final approach path. In some ways the most spectacular sight is
Concorde; when it's gone by you and is just touching down and flaring, the
wing disappears in two plumes of fuzzy white. Last chance to see...
Of course, the beautiful rainbow is harder to organise. And in Hounslow,
parakeets are off.
--
Peter
Peter Ceresole
"Richard P. Grant" <rp...@yahoo.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>In article <BAD6A1D9.F176%bella...@yahoo.co.uk>,
> Bella Jones <bella...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> have
>> probably violated it many times already... ;-)
>
>As long as he smiled when you did.
Violation? Smiles? What interesting lives we all appear to live...
Bella; if the revolution really starts under your windows, do keep us
informed.
--
Peter
Bella Jones
Grant at rp...@yahoo.co.uk.invalid wrote on 1/5/03 10:17 am:
> In article <BAD6A1D9.F176%bella...@yahoo.co.uk>,
> Bella Jones <bella...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> have
>> probably violated it many times already... ;-)
>
> As long as he smiled when you did.
Well, I hope the following does not violate either FAQ.
I just found it during a search for 'Newton', not knowing what it was (don't
have any handheld stuff).
http://standalone.com/palmos/cycle_view/
I swear I had no idea this kind thing existed. I especially like the 'Moon'
category...
Bella Jones
pe...@cara.demon.co.uk wrote on 1/5/03 10:55 am:
>
> Violation? Smiles? What interesting lives we all appear to live...
>
> Bella; if the revolution really starts under your windows, do keep us
> informed.
Sure will!
I walk past the row of protest placards, bedsheets etc, most days. I keep
meaning to cross the road and have a chat about presentation and branding
with the diehard guy who's always there, day and night. It's like, if his
'NOT IN MY NAME' & 'STOP THE WAR' sheets stay in the same position every
day, getting mankier and mankier, the politicians are going to stop noticing
them after a while. You have to keep varying the picture or they'll just
blank it out. It just starts to look like 'Miscellaneous Laundry Against
Something Or Other' after a while...
As I write, the goddamn helicopters are starting to circle. Don't they know
I've got a deadline?!?!?
So why am I here? :-)
Stuart Bell
> I can just see an A320
> heading for Heathrow while pointing at Southampton.
I shan't take it personally. ;-)
Stuart
(in Soton)
PeterD
Looks very nifty. Having had occasion to do the same thing with Excel
spreadsheets and charting, a handy little application like that would be
much more portable.
--
Pd
PeterD
> In article <BAD6B075.F182%bella...@yahoo.co.uk>,
> Bella Jones <bella...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >
> > http://standalone.com/palmos/cycle_view/
> >
> > I swear I had no idea this kind thing existed. I especially like the 'Moon'
> > category...
>
> Heh. Go to ifthen.com and look for the, eh, *natural* successor to such
> a thing.
"ifthen.com
Please visit this site later; under construction. copyright @1999"
Slick.
--
Pd
Kevin Morgan
> It's just gone spectacular here in Greater West London; huge black clouds
> and pin-sharp bright sun, and the brightest, most perfect double rainbow
> I've ever seen, edge to edge. The space between the arcs was midnight
> dark...
>
> Then a 747 swam out through the arch like a hippo (we're under the approach
> to 28L at Heathrow)
Splendid stuff...... except it's 27L @ Heathrow (EGLL) !!
(Sorry to be a smart A**e!)
Kev
PeterD
> In article <1fua39z.v2cj121bjprwgN%pd....@dsl.pipex.invalid>,
> pd....@dsl.pipex.invalid (PeterD) wrote:
>
> > Richard P. Grant <rp...@yahoo.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <BAD6B075.F182%bella...@yahoo.co.uk>,
> > > Bella Jones <bella...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > http://standalone.com/palmos/cycle_view/
> > > >
> > > > I swear I had no idea this kind thing existed. I especially like the
> > > > 'Moon'
> > > > category...
> > >
> > > Heh. Go to ifthen.com and look for the, eh, *natural* successor to such
> > > a thing.
> >
Ah. I still prefer temperature and er, other signs, over any of the
unnatural alternatives.
--
Pd
Bella Jones
Grant at rp...@yahoo.co.uk.invalid wrote on 1/5/03 12:03 pm:
Love it! Great idea. And the horoscopes. I meant to add, if anyone has had
anything wrong with their computer since last Saturday (26th), you can
freely blame Mercury retrograde, whose influence will last till 24th May.
Communication technologies are particularly affected...
;-)
Peter Ceresole
Kevin Morgan <Ke...@mist.co.uk> wrote:
>Splendid stuff...... except it's 27L @ Heathrow (EGLL) !!
You're right of course. I even wrote 27L and then changed it to 28L. I used
to know these things, then I got interested in girls...
--
Peter
Peter Ceresole
Bella Jones <bella...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> ifthensoft.com
>
>Love it! Great idea. And the horoscopes. I meant to add, if anyone has had
>anything wrong with their computer since last Saturday (26th), you can
>freely blame Mercury retrograde, whose influence will last till 24th May.
>Communication technologies are particularly affected...
For God's sake Bella, I thought you said you had a deadline.
Me, smug bastard, retired.
--
Peter
Bella Jones
pe...@cara.demon.co.uk wrote on 1/5/03 12:50 pm:
I have, and I've nearly finished the piece as well; screaming children down
the road, helicopters and the relentless urge to communicate
notwithstanding.
For the latter, again, Mercury can be blamed.
David Kennedy
Thank you very much indeed for the compliments, I hope you like and that
you'll let me know how it goes, we need all the selfless volunteers we
can get.
And, if you can get it, buffalo works really well.
James Dore
@yahoo.co.uk.invalid says...
> In article <BAD6C1A5.F1A2%bella...@yahoo.co.uk>,
>
> Try
>
> http://www.rg-d.com/cgi-bin/bofhserver-cgi.pl
>
>
We used to have this as a footer on the auto-reply to our RT job
tracking system. The killjoys in the Admin office told us to stop it,
because it was silly.
Bah!
bogus address
> http://standalone.com/palmos/cycle_view/
> I swear I had no idea this kind thing existed. I especially like the
> 'Moon' category...
There was an old freeware program for the Mac called "Menstat" that did
most of that (no diary feature, though). It was written for System 3.2,
I think, and still ran on 7.something when I last looked at it. I can
probably find it somewhere if anybody wants it.
========> Email to "j-c" at this site; email to "bogus" will bounce <========
Jack Campin: 11 Third Street, Newtongrange, Midlothian EH22 4PU; 0131 6604760
<http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/purrhome.html> food intolerance data & recipes,
Mac logic fonts, Scots traditional music files, and my CD-ROM "Embro, Embro".
Julian Barkway
multitudes, agog with barely concealed anticipation:
>But go to Heathrow on a rainy day and stand on the inside perimeter road,
>under the final approach path. In some ways the most spectacular sight is
>Concorde; when it's gone by you and is just touching down and flaring, the
>wing disappears in two plumes of fuzzy white. Last chance to see...
Trouble is, when I'm at Heathrow I'm always desperate to get out of the
place - either on a plane or ground transport....
Mostly, though, I'm cursing the person who thought it would be a good idea
to replace perfectly good seating areas with rows of overpriced shops
selling stuff nobody wants to buy. Did I tell you I hate Heathrow with a
vengeance? It is, without a doubt, the most opressive and depressing
airport I've ever used.
Er, where was I? Oh yes, Concorde. I used to see it fly overhead a lot when
I lived in Surrey. It will be a sad day when it fnally goes out of service.
A uniquely beautiful aircraft.
A bit like Macs, really. Except for not being aircraft...
Peter Ceresole
jbarkwayLEA...@mac.com (Julian Barkway) wrote:
>Trouble is, when I'm at Heathrow I'm always desperate to get out of the
>place - either on a plane or ground transport....
A sentiment that confirms your humanity.
>Did I tell you I hate Heathrow with a
>vengeance? It is, without a doubt, the most opressive and depressing
>airport I've ever used.
I'll raise you Kennedy and trump with Moscow... But for all time horror,
nothing beats the BA/Virgin wing of Orlando when bloody Disneyworld is
operating. It was in term time, too. I asked the woman at the checkin
"where do these children come from, d'you reckon their schools know they're
here?" and she raised her eyes and said "We ask ourselves the same thing,
all the time."
That, and the hideous awfulness of the 'souvenirs' they were schlepping
back to England, brought out all my fascist tendencies. Gaol the gits...
>Er, where was I? Oh yes, Concorde. I used to see it fly overhead a lot when
>I lived in Surrey. It will be a sad day when it fnally goes out of service.
>A uniquely beautiful aircraft.
But uniquely noisy. I agree it looks great, but I'll be glad when they
disappear. It's the only aircraft that flies into Heathrow that I actually
*hear* and it's not nice.
--
Peter
Hugh Browton
(in message <BAD6A1D9.F176%bella...@yahoo.co.uk>):
I dunno where to find it! I just quote from it in order to keep the group
from worrying about seriousness. Violation of the meta-FAQ, is, as you might
expect, mandatory. (cf Section 7865), but I note it says nothing about
smiling while you do it. Daniele - any thought?
--
regards
hugh
(with not enough work to do)
Adrian Tuddenham
> http://standalone.com/palmos/cycle_view
--
~ Adrian Tuddenham ~
(Change 'pOOPy' to 'poppy' to reply)
<www.poppyrecords.co.uk> for the most unusual recordings
Adrian Tuddenham
> http://standalone.com/palmos/cycle_view/
>
> I swear I had no idea this kind thing existed. I especially like the 'Moon'
> category...
I wonder if a more 'universal' one would find a wider market. It would
be valuable to an animal breeder if the cycle time could be altered to
suit various species.
SM
> >So did you get your camera out? Tell me there's a jpeg somewhere...
>
> Nah. I just sat at the window and gawped.
I reckon that's by far the best response unless you've actually got a
camera to hand.
Rush, rush, check, fidddle, planet turns...
Stuart
--
http://www.sundog.co.uk - cut that out to reply
Julian Barkway
multitudes, agog with barely concealed anticipation:
>>Trouble is, when I'm at Heathrow I'm always desperate to get out of the
>>place - either on a plane or ground transport....
>
>A sentiment that confirms your humanity.
>
>>Did I tell you I hate Heathrow with a
>>vengeance? It is, without a doubt, the most opressive and depressing
>>airport I've ever used.
>
>I'll raise you Kennedy and trump with Moscow...
Moscow I know nothing about but the only thing I had against JFK was its
size. It's *huge*. And the bus to the 'nearest' subway station takes
forever to get there, having to stop at each of several thousand terminals
along the way (second time, I wised up and took the Port Authority bus...)
Now, the new airport at Munich... that's how an airport *should* be done.
Pity nobody uses it, though.
>But for all time horror,
>nothing beats the BA/Virgin wing of Orlando when bloody Disneyworld is
>operating. It was in term time, too. I asked the woman at the checkin
>"where do these children come from, d'you reckon their schools know they're
>here?" and she raised her eyes and said "We ask ourselves the same thing,
>all the time."
Eeek! Kids and planes. There's a combination that strikes fear into the
heart of every regular flier.... :-O
>That, and the hideous awfulness of the 'souvenirs' they were schlepping
>back to England, brought out all my fascist tendencies. Gaol the gits...
>
>>Er, where was I? Oh yes, Concorde. I used to see it fly overhead a lot when
>>I lived in Surrey. It will be a sad day when it fnally goes out of service.
>>A uniquely beautiful aircraft.
>
>But uniquely noisy. I agree it looks great, but I'll be glad when they
>disappear. It's the only aircraft that flies into Heathrow that I actually
>*hear* and it's not nice.
You always knew when it was flying overhead, that's for sure.
PeterD
> http://www.rg-d.com/cgi-bin/bofhserver-cgi.pl
"Someone is standing on the ethernet cable, causeing a
kink in the cable"
No further comment.
--
Pd
Bella Jones
at jbarkwayLEA...@mac.com wrote on 1/5/03 4:25 pm:
>
> Mostly, though, I'm cursing the person who thought it would be a good idea
> to replace perfectly good seating areas with rows of overpriced shops
> selling stuff nobody wants to buy. Did I tell you I hate Heathrow with a
> vengeance? It is, without a doubt, the most opressive and depressing
> airport I've ever used.
There's an increase in smarter restaurants in airports too. It's probably a
knock-effect from terrorist scares. They know people are going to be
spending way longer in airports, and have evolved accordingly. This brings
on an us-and-them effect of those with spare cash, or expenses, sitting in
the restaurants, and those on a low travel budget sitting in increasingly
cramped rows on the floor, with sandwiches.
PeterD
> in article 3EB0CBC1...@no.spam.today.thanks.invalid, David Kennedy at
> david....@no.spam.today.thanks.invalid wrote on 1/5/03 8:24 am:
>
> >
> > Very poetic Peter, the weekend break obviously did the job for you !
>
> [wildly OT]
>
> David - I just checked out your site. Love it - recipes to DIE for.
Mine tend to be recipes to die from.
--
Pd
PeterD
> On Thu, 1 May 2003 10:05:14 +0100, Bella Jones wrote
> (in message <BAD6A1D9.F176%bella...@yahoo.co.uk>):
>
> > in article 0001HW.BAD69E87...@news.demon.co.uk, Hugh Browton at
> > useneth@**.not.uk wrote on 1/5/03 9:51 am:
> >>>
> >>> To yank this round to Macs, what you describe there could be an advert -
> >>> just put a big Apple logo on the side of the plane... :-)
> >>>
> >>
> >> No, no Bella - this thread deserves to stay off-topic! (cf Section 6 of the
> >> meta-FAQ)
> >
> > Oh god, sorry. Where can I find this meta-FAQ? Anyone got it? I have
> > probably violated it many times already... ;-)
> >
>
> I dunno where to find it! I just quote from it in order to keep the group
> from worrying about seriousness. Violation of the meta-FAQ, is, as you might
> expect, mandatory. (cf Section 7865), but I note it says nothing about
> smiling while you do it. Daniele - any thought?
Oh Hugh, Hugh, Hugh. What is the first thing it says in the meta-FAQ
preamble to the interpretation and commentaries? Surely not so much has
happened since those vicious and bloody debates over the correct
physiognomic arrangement while posting to ucsm (specifically) that you
can dismiss that hard-won subclause with such scant recognition?
--
Pd
PeterD
> >Did I tell you I hate Heathrow with a
> >vengeance? It is, without a doubt, the most opressive and depressing
> >airport I've ever used.
>
> I'll raise you Kennedy and trump with Moscow... But for all time horror,
> nothing beats the BA/Virgin wing of Orlando when bloody Disneyworld is
> operating.
And for quaint, the best I've been in was Wellington during
refurbishments. A corrugated iron hangar, concrete floor, plastic
stackable chairs and a line of fluoroscent tubes hanging on chains.
For lacking in facilities though, nothing beats Motutapu, an island in
the Hauraki Gulf. It has no airfield, so to get there by air requires
the use of either Widgeon or Goose flying boat. Sometimes the pilot gets
it right, other times he says "Here you go" and instead of jumping out
with baggage into 2 feet of water, it's 5 feet deep. Oops.
--
Pd
Bella Jones
Tuddenham at adr...@pOOPyrecords.co.uk wrote on 1/5/03 6:43 pm:
> Bella Jones <bella...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>> http://standalone.com/palmos/cycle_view/
>>
>> I swear I had no idea this kind thing existed. I especially like the 'Moon'
>> category...
>
> I wonder if a more 'universal' one would find a wider market. It would
> be valuable to an animal breeder if the cycle time could be altered to
> suit various species.
The closest I could find was this:
http://greatplainslivestock.tripod.com/products.html#heatwatch
See also 'Mount Count', below it. Cracking name.
Bella Jones
Grant at rp...@yahoo.co.uk.invalid wrote on 1/5/03 1:51 pm:
> In article <BAD6D219.F1C9%bella...@yahoo.co.uk>,
> Bella Jones <bella...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> For the latter, again, Mercury can be blamed.
>
> Eh, it used to be used as a cure for syphilis, but for goodness' sake
> don't drink the stuff.
Awful. People treated with it ended up with the same effects as Phossy Jaw.
Not long ago, some boys, playing on waste ground in, I think, Nottingham,
found a cracked container which had mercury in it. They had no idea what it
was, and spent the day playing with it and chucking it around everywhere,
and carrying it in their pockets. The council ended up having to evacuate
the whole area while people cleaned microscopic blobs of it off the roads.
Ciaran Wills
Ceresole" <pe...@cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> But uniquely noisy. I agree it looks great, but I'll be glad when they
> disappear. It's the only aircraft that flies into Heathrow that I actually
> *hear* and it's not nice.
I will miss it - I've only lived in London for 9 months, but we're on the
flight path and it is a constant reminder that you are in London and not
anywhere else. I always thought that someday I would fly on Concorde, but I
guess that's not to happen now...
[Two airport related posts in one night - this is sad. For the record I
vote Heathrow terminal 3 the worst airport experience; the unique
combination of shopping mall and building site is truly awful]
Ciaran.
Peter Ceresole
pd....@dsl.pipex.invalid (PeterD) wrote:
>For lacking in facilities though, nothing beats Motutapu, an island in
>the Hauraki Gulf. It has no airfield, so to get there by air requires
>the use of either Widgeon or Goose flying boat. Sometimes the pilot gets
>it right, other times he says "Here you go" and instead of jumping out
>with baggage into 2 feet of water, it's 5 feet deep. Oops.
Pacific Island hopping in a Goose! The ultimate romantic trip! I do so envy
you for having done that...
>And for quaint, the best I've been in was Wellington during
>refurbishments. A corrugated iron hangar, concrete floor, plastic
>stackable chairs and a line of fluoroscent tubes hanging on chains.
I dunno... For me, nothing has ever matched Albuquerque in about 1986 or 7.
They were changing it from a severely overflowed small 1930s terminal to a
(now) very nice, modern adobe style place. First time I saw it, you went
into the pier (which was already new) which ended it total chaos as you hit
the works. Somebody had hand drawn some large signs in fluorescent marker
pen. The biggest said "BRANIFF AND UNITED THIS WAY". And then, with an
arrow pointing the other way, "EVERYTHING ELSE IS THIS WAY".
The original entrance was still standing (all gone now)- with art deco
style columns. At the top, in nice carved letters, it said "TO THE PLANES".
There were many joys to the place. You shared the runway with the USAF, so
before approach or after takeoff you'd see that you were mixing it with
A-10s and National Guard A-7s. The other side of the airport was Kirtland
AFB; it had an installation called Trestle, which was an absolutely huge
pit into which they had stuck a gigantic jetty of bright yellow wood, onto
which they would wheel aircraft for electromagnetic pulse testing (hence
the wooden trestle structure of the jetty). When I was there, they had a
B-1 on test- and the B-1 is a remarkably large aircraft to be perched out
on a wooden platform. A bit further down the runway is the Atom Bomb
Museum, which has an early model B-52 and some ICBMs parked in the front.
It's across a narrow road from Sandia Labs, which is where they design and
test electronics for nuclear and non-nuclear weapons systems. We were
filming there and we had more fun than you can imagine. We also saw the
balloon rally, with the launching of 700 hot air balloons one morning.
I just loved Albuquerque.
--
Peter
Hugh Browton
(in message <BAD7091D...@dclient217-162-193-9.hispeed.ch>):
> pe...@cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) spake thusly to the assembled
> multitudes, agog with barely concealed anticipation:
>
>> But go to Heathrow on a rainy day and stand on the inside perimeter road,
>> under the final approach path. In some ways the most spectacular sight is
>> Concorde; when it's gone by you and is just touching down and flaring, the
>> wing disappears in two plumes of fuzzy white. Last chance to see...
>
> Trouble is, when I'm at Heathrow I'm always desperate to get out of the
> place - either on a plane or ground transport....
>
> Mostly, though, I'm cursing the person who thought it would be a good idea
> to replace perfectly good seating areas with rows of overpriced shops
> selling stuff nobody wants to buy. Did I tell you I hate Heathrow with a
> vengeance? It is, without a doubt, the most opressive and depressing
> airport I've ever used.
>
Don't use it. If you can't get where you want to go from Stansted (via
Schipol or Frankfurt if necessary), don't go. I refuse to use the place.
--
regards
hugh
Hugh Browton
(in message <BAD749CE...@dclient80-218-51-80.hispeed.ch>):
> pe...@cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) spake thusly to the assembled
> multitudes, agog with barely concealed anticipation:
>
> Moscow I know nothing about but the only thing I had against JFK was its
> size. It's *huge*. And the bus to the 'nearest' subway station takes
> forever to get there, having to stop at each of several thousand terminals
> along the way (second time, I wised up and took the Port Authority bus...)
>
> Now, the new airport at Munich... that's how an airport *should* be done.
> Pity nobody uses it, though.
>
Yes, big, quiet, and deserted. My sort of airport!
>> But for all time horror,
>> nothing beats the BA/Virgin wing of Orlando when bloody Disneyworld is
>> operating. It was in term time, too. I asked the woman at the checkin
>> "where do these children come from, d'you reckon their schools know they're
>> here?" and she raised her eyes and said "We ask ourselves the same thing,
>> all the time."
>
> Eeek! Kids and planes. There's a combination that strikes fear into the
> heart of every regular flier.... :-O
>
There used to be an airline that flew to the US of' that had not just
no-smoking zones, but no-children zones. Pity it didn't last.
Hugh Browton
(in message <1fuatrg.1aiqj6b19v9sxsN%pd....@dsl.pipex.invalid>):
You're right, you're right. I was in such a hurry to post that the memories
those days had been overlooked. Mea culpa, for they were long and bad days
indeed. Half-eaten buffet meals, cold coffee, clocks stopped in an attempt to
get agreement before the deadline, and such grumpiness from the Azerbaijani
and Japanese observers. Aie aie.
--
regards
hugh
PeterD
> We were filming there and we had more fun than you can imagine. We also
> saw the balloon rally, with the launching of 700 hot air balloons one
> morning.
>
> I just loved Albuquerque.
I can understand why.
--
Pd
Julian Barkway
agog with barely concealed anticipation:
>> Mostly, though, I'm cursing the person who thought it would be a good idea
>> to replace perfectly good seating areas with rows of overpriced shops
>> selling stuff nobody wants to buy. Did I tell you I hate Heathrow with a
>> vengeance? It is, without a doubt, the most opressive and depressing
>> airport I've ever used.
>>
>
>Don't use it. If you can't get where you want to go from Stansted (via
>Schipol or Frankfurt if necessary), don't go. I refuse to use the place.
Trust me, I'd do likewise if I could. However, since the demise of the
excellent (but sadly short-lived) Zurich-Southampton service, the only
other viable option for the South is Gatwick. Gatwick is better than
Heathrow but you'd need sensitive and precisely callibrated instruments to
measure the difference...
I just wish they could attract the custom for more European flights from
Southampton. It's a lovely little airport.
Jim
> Violation of the meta-FAQ, is, as you might
> expect, mandatory. (cf Section 7865)
Hang on, 7865? "All members posting to ucsm must possess at least one
pickled herring"? That's all very well and good but I fail to see how
its relevant.
Jim
--
j...@magrathea.plus.com iChat:JCAndrew2
"We deal in the moral equivalent of black holes, where the normal
laws of right and wrong break down; beyond those metaphysical
event horizons there exist ... special circumstances" - Use Of Weapons
Jim
> There used to be an airline that flew to the US of' that had not just
> no-smoking zones, but no-children zones.
If there was any poetic justice it would have been Virgin...
Bella Jones
c.j....@acm.org wrote on 1/5/03 11:08 pm:
>
> [Two airport related posts in one night - this is sad. For the record I
> vote Heathrow terminal 3 the worst airport experience; the unique
> combination of shopping mall and building site is truly awful]
>
> Ciaran.
>
I must put in a word for terminal 1. This was several years ago, but
crammed, and rubbish facilities, I guess because flights are regional to the
UK (this may have changed?). Evil British Midland (spit) relentlessly
bumping people, and announcements terrible.
Bella Jones
david....@no.spam.today.thanks.invalid wrote on 1/5/03 1:33 pm:
>
> Thank you very much indeed for the compliments, I hope you like and that
> you'll let me know how it goes, we need all the selfless volunteers we
> can get.
>
> And, if you can get it, buffalo works really well.
Selfridges food hall may do it. But buffalo are so cute! Especially the baby
ones. Speciesist, moi?
David Kennedy
>
> Selfridges food hall may do it. But buffalo are so cute! Especially the baby
> ones. Speciesist, moi?
>
Kids are cute too but look what happens when they grow.....
--
David Kennedy
David Kennedy
>
>
> Mine tend to be recipes to die from.
>
That's why we needed the volunteers......
David Kennedy
>
> And for quaint, the best I've been in was Wellington during
> refurbishments. A corrugated iron hangar, concrete floor, plastic
> stackable chairs and a line of fluoroscent tubes hanging on chains.
>
> For lacking in facilities though, nothing beats Motutapu, an island in
> the Hauraki Gulf. It has no airfield, so to get there by air requires
> the use of either Widgeon or Goose flying boat. Sometimes the pilot gets
> it right, other times he says "Here you go" and instead of jumping out
> with baggage into 2 feet of water, it's 5 feet deep. Oops.
>
Try Dhaka. When the plane landed - after the first leg before going on
to KL - the captain mentioned that we would be there for 2 hours and
everyone would have plenty of time to stretch their legs.
No one moved.
Bella Jones
useneth@**.not.uk wrote on 2/5/03 12:08 am:
LOL!
Sign of the times? I tried to read the newusers home page for usenet FAQ
bits - and Explorer was crippled by a popup that caused it to grind to a
halt, and I had to restart it!
A FAQ question - is it acceptable to add something to the subject line of a
thread that has already started? Or is it a pain, because it effectively
starts a new thread?
A meta-FAQ question - should a newcomer to the group wait a while, out of
deference to the senior members, before instigating an OT thread of their
own, and quietly segue their thoughts about Dyson Spheres, cat shit, etc,
into an existing thread instead?
I suppose I'm thinking in terms of apprenticeship, or probation.
Chris Ridd
BAD749CE...@dclient80-218-51-80.hispeed.ch, "Julian Barkway"
<jbarkwayLEA...@mac.com> wrote:
You still do. Our daughter thinks all planes are called Concorde, and says
bye-bye to it whenever it flies over.
Cheers,
Chris
David Kennedy
> In article <3EB21B44...@no.spam.today.thanks.invalid>,
> David Kennedy <david....@no.spam.today.thanks.invalid> wrote:
>
>
>>Bella Jones wrote:
>>
>>>Selfridges food hall may do it. But buffalo are so cute! Especially the baby
>>>ones. Speciesist, moi?
>>>
>>
>>Kids are cute too
>
>
>
;-)
Peter Ceresole
"Richard P. Grant" <rp...@yahoo.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>> Kids are cute too
>
>Yeah, but they're bloody chewy.
In a pastry case, 'en croute', they're just tender and tasty.
--
Peter
PeterD
> A FAQ question - is it acceptable to add something to the subject line of a
> thread that has already started? Or is it a pain, because it effectively
> starts a new thread?
It doesn't start a new thread in MacSoup, because Soup uses the
reference headers to define threads. I quite like it when people add
things to the subject line to indicate thread drift, especially if I
haven't been reading it because the subject didn't catch my eye, but the
thread has drifted into an area I do want to comment on.
I don't know the established netiquette for changing subject lines
though. I think it's polite to at the very least retain the old subject
as (WAS: old subject).
> A meta-FAQ question - should a newcomer to the group wait a while, out of
> deference to the senior members,
Nope. If they're senior members, they're probably having senior moments
and won't remember that you haven't already been posting for the last
five years anyway. But if you like, you can defer to me. I never seem to
get the deference I so richly deserve. Unless I ask an important
question, which always seems to get deferred.
> before instigating an OT thread of their own, and quietly segue their
> thoughts about Dyson Spheres, cat shit, etc, into an existing thread
> instead?
Fire away. The worst that can happen is there is a bleak sighing wind,
blowing the tumbleweeds around the lonely unfollowed-up post.
> I suppose I'm thinking in terms of apprenticeship, or probation.
We don't probe apprentices here. For that you'll have to subscribe to
alt.whitehouse.interns
--
Pd
PeterD
> Try Dhaka. When the plane landed - after the first leg before going on
> to KL - the captain mentioned that we would be there for 2 hours and
> everyone would have plenty of time to stretch their legs.
>
> No one moved.
Why not? Two hours is enough to at least see the Bengal take on airport
design and construction. For instance, the airport terminal at Abu Dhabi
is interesting enough to spend an hour or two wandering around.
--
Pd
PeterD
> In article <1fuauai.15gsopk3a3e6tN%pd....@dsl.pipex.invalid>,
> pd....@dsl.pipex.invalid (PeterD) wrote:
>
> > And for quaint, the best I've been in was Wellington during
> > refurbishments. A corrugated iron hangar, concrete floor, plastic
> > stackable chairs and a line of fluoroscent tubes hanging on chains.
>
> Hah!
>
> Did you ever fly across the ditch to Blenheim?
In a Bristol Shaker, no less. Lying on top of the baggage, looking down
through the nose glass. Brilliant.
I don't remember anything particularly rough about Woodbourne though.
--
Pd
PeterD
> Hugh Browton <useneth@**.not.uk> wrote:
>
> > Violation of the meta-FAQ, is, as you might
> > expect, mandatory. (cf Section 7865)
>
> Hang on, 7865? "All members posting to ucsm must possess at least one
> pickled herring"? That's all very well and good but I fail to see how
> its relevant.
"Footnote (c): Non-members may substitute jellied eel remnants, provided
the meta-FAQ is violated more roughly than is customary."
Remember Jim, you can't go quoting little bits and pieces out of
context. The meta-FAQ must be taken as a whole, immutable,
incontrovertible, indivisible and invisible. A-a-a-amen.
--
Pd
David Kennedy
> David Kennedy <david....@no.spam.today.thanks.invalid> wrote:
>
>
>>Try Dhaka. When the plane landed - after the first leg before going on
>>to KL - the captain mentioned that we would be there for 2 hours and
>>everyone would have plenty of time to stretch their legs.
>>
>>No one moved.
>
>
> Why not? Two hours is enough to at least see the Bengal take on airport
> design and construction.
We could see it.
Corrugated iron sheeting, felt roofs and lots of cracked concrete
featured heavily.
Also, it was just after one of their floods, there were still signs of
receding water - and mud - everywhere, lots of flies and an interesting
aroma when the cabin door opened.
The clean up crew that came on board had a very interesting collection
of antique vacuum cleaners on display - mostly worn as backpacks.
There was also a fresh intake of in-flight meals - not many of which
seemed to be used on the next leg, I noticed the crew who did eat all
stuck to the stuff which came on board in Dubai.
PeterD
> In article <BAD7C63A...@dclient80-218-51-80.hispeed.ch>,
> jbarkwayLEA...@mac.com (Julian Barkway) wrote:
>
> > I just wish they could attract the custom for more European flights from
> > Southampton. It's a lovely little airport.
>
> Isn't it just?
My vote for cutest goes to Shoreham. The terminal building is classic
Art Deco. I expect the Empire Airways flight from Salisbury, Rhodesia to
taxi in any moment.
--
Pd
PeterD
In one of those wince-inducing in-jokes that married couples have,
whenever my wife or I call the other to say we're on our way, we say we
are "en croute". It's so familiar now it doesn't even sound odd.
--
Pd
D.M. Procida
> Mostly, though, I'm cursing the person who thought it would be a good idea
> to replace perfectly good seating areas with rows of overpriced shops
> selling stuff nobody wants to buy. Did I tell you I hate Heathrow with a
> vengeance? It is, without a doubt, the most opressive and depressing
> airport I've ever used.
I flew into Terminal 2 last year. Just think: this is the welcome to
Britain that millions of foreign visitors receive. It's like arriving at
a public toilet. Even the crummiest third-world basket-case regimes
manage to produce an airport that doesn't make you want to get on the
first flight back out again.
Daniele
--
Apple Juice Ltd
Chapter Arts Centre
Market Road www.apple-juice.co.uk
Cardiff CF5 1QE 029 2019 0140
Hugh Browton
(in message <1fubkon.1f8b48t1w6f3gyN%j...@magrathea.plus.com>):
> Hugh Browton <useneth@**.not.uk> wrote:
>
>> Violation of the meta-FAQ, is, as you might
>> expect, mandatory. (cf Section 7865)
>
> Hang on, 7865? "All members posting to ucsm must possess at least one
> pickled herring"? That's all very well and good but I fail to see how
> its relevant.
>
Apart from your red flag to the apostrofe police, you need to read (and
disagree with) the commentary on that Section, and then all will be clearer,
or murkier, depending on your point of view.
Peter Ceresole
pd....@dsl.pipex.invalid (PeterD) wrote:
>> before instigating an OT thread of their own, and quietly segue their
>> thoughts about Dyson Spheres, cat shit, etc, into an existing thread
>> instead?
>
>Fire away. The worst that can happen is there is a bleak sighing wind,
>blowing the tumbleweeds around the lonely unfollowed-up post.
I fancy the blonde Swedish one myself...
Oh yes... Senior members... There are *old* members. I'm an *old* member-
old in years that is, not in participation in ucsm. But seniority is not a
concept I'd ever associated with Usenet. PeterD's right; 'senior' applies
to 'moments'. As above...
--
Peter
Peter Ceresole
pd....@dsl.pipex.invalid (PeterD) wrote:
>Remember Jim, you can't go quoting little bits and pieces out of
>context. The meta-FAQ must be taken as a whole, immutable,
>incontrovertible, indivisible and invisible. A-a-a-amen.
Where is the definitive hard copy stored? Last I heard it was at the Deal
archive with the permanent rules of Mornington Crescent.
--
Peter
Peter Ceresole
pd....@dsl.pipex.invalid (PeterD) wrote:
>My vote for cutest goes to Shoreham. The terminal building is classic
>Art Deco. I expect the Empire Airways flight from Salisbury, Rhodesia to
>taxi in any moment.
Does it have a white picket fence? All *really nice* airfields, no matter
where, have white picket fences with a little gate leading to the apron.
--
Peter
Peter Ceresole
"Richard P. Grant" <rp...@yahoo.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>> In a pastry case, 'en croute', they're just tender and tasty.
>
>Do you do that mushroom pate effect, as in a Beef Wellington?
No. I feel it spoils that pure taste of baby. But mushrooms make a
wonderful side dish.
--
Peter
PeterD
> In article <1fubvkc.1c7enfti7hikgN%pd....@dsl.pipex.invalid>,
> pd....@dsl.pipex.invalid (PeterD) wrote:
>
> > But if you like, you can defer to me. I never seem to
> > get the deference I so richly deserve. Unless I ask an important
> > question, which always seems to get deferred.
>
> Bah <waves paw>
>
> Newbie.
Never claimed to be otherwise. Never would.
Besides, I don't deserve
> (First post to ucsm I can find by you, PeterD, is 26 Nov 2001 00:20:31
> +0000).
Hah! And exactly what criteria are you searching on?
I am the protean, the chameleon, the shadow, the wraith...
I started with in-house comms on 300 baud modems in the early 80s,
bulletin boards in the 90s, then AppleLink, then Demon since 1993, Pipex
since 1995, a brief affair with BTOpenworld when they had flat rate
dialup, then Pipex ADSL. In that time I've had many online incarnations.
This persona you see here before you is but a shell, that I shall cast
aside like a used tissue when it has outlived its utility.
Last year I thought I'd try out one of these web-cam online chatrooms,
and I signed on using my real name. Each time you send a message, the
software (iSpQ) sends a still photo along with it. I was having quite a
good conversation with a fairly buxom woman, had to go to the loo, and
while I was out of the room my so-called buddy typed "Show me your
boobs" and sent it with my most recent photo. The conversation history
isn't immediately obvious, so I came back and carried on, but she acted
very oddly indeed. It wasn't until a while later that I looked back
through the history and discovered the me she thought she was talking to
was a bit different from the me I thought I was being.
At least on the internet, no-one can see you pummel your buddy.
--
Pd
PeterD
> In article <1fubvkc.1c7enfti7hikgN%pd....@dsl.pipex.invalid>,
> pd....@dsl.pipex.invalid (PeterD) wrote:
>
> >> before instigating an OT thread of their own, and quietly segue their
> >> thoughts about Dyson Spheres, cat shit, etc, into an existing thread
> >> instead?
> >
> >Fire away. The worst that can happen is there is a bleak sighing wind,
> >blowing the tumbleweeds around the lonely unfollowed-up post.
>
> I fancy the blonde Swedish one myself...
I'm having a slow brain day - wot u mean?
--
Pd
PeterD
I believe Microsoft have bought the digital rights and the definitive
hard copy, which is stored in the same place as their unobtainable paper
licensing documents.
--
Pd
Peter Ceresole
"Richard P. Grant" <rp...@yahoo.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>> Where is the definitive hard copy stored? Last I heard it was at the Deal
>> archive with the permanent rules of Mornington Crescent.
>
>Now *there's* an interesting place to visit. Say 'hi' to the head
>Porter - George - from me if you go there. Nice chap - worth getting to
>know him, he knows all the tricks that the librarians don't.
My main contact was some years ago with the archivist, Mr Arbuthnot. I was
researching the historic rule changes that took place in Mornington
Crescent in the '30s and '40s, following the decision to incorporate
methods of accomodating foreign systems after the adoption of Mornington
Crescent as part of the world Chess championships. Speelman's doubling of
Korchnoi on the Sebastopol spur caused huge excitement and made it clear
that the Long Spur rule, which had been introduced in the '30s to
accomodate the Central Line, would have to be modified in the light of the
surface crossing of the Neva by the Sebastopol line. Similarly the
emergency changes of the '40s and '50s, to take account of Berlin war
damage (modelled on the similar changes forced by damage in the Blitz) and
then the splitting of the S-Bahn after the building of the Berlin Wall.
Even more importantly, few people remember that the international league of
Mornington Crescent was maintained throughout the conflict in Sweden and to
a lesser extent in Denmark. It's little known that one of the first actions
of Nils Bohr on arriving in England in '42 was to resume an interrupted
game with George Chadwick at the NPL. Bohr was said to have started a new
game at Los Alamos on his arrival there; the details have always been
shrouded in mystery, but it was believed to have been the very first game
to have used the New York subway. However, Bohr was notoriously
uncommunicative on the subject and the New York rules filed at Deal are a
*later* set. In fact part of my long discussions in Deal were attempting to
locate the orignal Bohr rules (a great prize for whoever rediscovers them)
and to nail the truth or otherwise that Rudolph Hess's mysterious flight to
England had in fact been motivated by the fact that he had discovered that
Hitler and Churchill had once played a postal game of Mornington Crescent,
which was at the origin of Hitler's famous anglophilia. Hess believed that
he could revive the amity of the two men- he was of course deluded. The
programme I was researching was to have been called "The Epping Double: how
Hitler lost the war and the Allies won on the Central Line". But although I
found tantalising hints, the archives were ultimately silent on this
crucial moment in our Great Game...
--
Peter
Peter Ceresole
pd....@dsl.pipex.invalid (PeterD) wrote:
>> >Fire away. The worst that can happen is there is a bleak sighing wind,
>> >blowing the tumbleweeds around the lonely unfollowed-up post.
>>
>> I fancy the blonde Swedish one myself...
>
>I'm having a slow brain day - wot u mean?
You mean that you *weren't* describing the Flat Joke routine in 'Shooting
Stars'? Complete with bleak sighing wind and tumbleweed? Because you've
described it word for word.
The blonde Swede in question is of course Ulrika Jonsson, who I secretly
rather like, partly because she's pretty but mostly because, although a
mess, she appears to be a human being.
--
Peter
Hugh Browton
(in message <1fubzv7.1sdw4w61u6oemvN%pd....@dsl.pipex.invalid>):
> Richard P. Grant <rp...@yahoo.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>
>> In article <1fubvkc.1c7enfti7hikgN%pd....@dsl.pipex.invalid>,
>> pd....@dsl.pipex.invalid (PeterD) wrote:
>>
>>> But if you like, you can defer to me. I never seem to
>>> get the deference I so richly deserve. Unless I ask an important
>>> question, which always seems to get deferred.
>>
>> Bah <waves paw>
>>
>> Newbie.
>
> Never claimed to be otherwise. Never would.
> Besides, I don't deserve
>
>> (First post to ucsm I can find by you, PeterD, is 26 Nov 2001 00:20:31
>> +0000).
>
> Hah! And exactly what criteria are you searching on?
> I am the protean, the chameleon, the shadow, the wraith...
>
> I started with in-house comms on 300 baud modems in the early 80s,
300 baud? You were LUCKY! We started with 110 baud, and thought we were
KINGS!!
Hugh Browton
(in message <BAD8248E9...@192.168.0.2>):
Exactly.
Memories of Teeside Airport in the early eighties. Call them up, say you are
on their way, and at least once we had a plane (scheduled for Schipol) held
for one of my colleagues!
David Kennedy
I thought we were talking about small goats.......
Peter Ceresole
David Kennedy <david....@no.spam.today.thanks.invalid> wrote:
>I thought we were talking about small goats.......
Heavens no. Babies are much more tender.
--
Peter
PeterD
> In article <1fuc4a9.1h1pt131rx523yN%pd....@dsl.pipex.invalid>,
> pd....@dsl.pipex.invalid (PeterD) wrote:
>
> >> >Fire away. The worst that can happen is there is a bleak sighing wind,
> >> >blowing the tumbleweeds around the lonely unfollowed-up post.
> >>
> >> I fancy the blonde Swedish one myself...
> >
> >I'm having a slow brain day - wot u mean?
>
> You mean that you *weren't* describing the Flat Joke routine in 'Shooting
> Stars'? Complete with bleak sighing wind and tumbleweed? Because you've
> described it word for word.
Oh yes. Of course it was. Duh - told you I was having a slow brain day.
>
> The blonde Swede in question is of course Ulrika Jonsson, who I secretly
> rather like, partly because she's pretty but mostly because, although a
> mess, she appears to be a human being.
Yes.
--
Pd
Julian Barkway
multitudes, agog with barely concealed anticipation:
>> Mostly, though, I'm cursing the person who thought it would be a good idea
>> to replace perfectly good seating areas with rows of overpriced shops
>> selling stuff nobody wants to buy. Did I tell you I hate Heathrow with a
>> vengeance? It is, without a doubt, the most opressive and depressing
>> airport I've ever used.
>
>I flew into Terminal 2 last year. Just think: this is the welcome to
>Britain that millions of foreign visitors receive. It's like arriving at
>a public toilet. Even the crummiest third-world basket-case regimes
>manage to produce an airport that doesn't make you want to get on the
>first flight back out again.
Tell me about it... Still, when Swissss go tits-up (only a matter of time
now since they won't be bailed out by the Swiss Govt. anymore) I'll have
the delights of BA and T1. Still, T1 is a massive improvement over T2. Like
the difference between a French and a British public toilet.... ;-)
Tell me, what was this thread originally about? :-)
Julian Barkway
with barely concealed anticipation:
>Hang on, 7865? "All members posting to ucsm must possess at least one
>pickled herring"? That's all very well and good but I fail to see how
>its relevant.
What if you ate it some time ago? Does that still count? And does it make a
difference if it's the sour German variety or a dill-pickled Dutch herring?
I'm rather partial to a sweet-pickled herring, myself.
Adrian Tuddenham
> On Fri, 2 May 2003 13:59:15 +0100, PeterD wrote
> (in message <1fubzv7.1sdw4w61u6oemvN%pd....@dsl.pipex.invalid>):
>
> >
> > I started with in-house comms on 300 baud modems in the early 80s,
>
>
> 300 baud? You were LUCKY! We started with 110 baud, and thought we were
> KINGS!!
Now I've got to join in...
I started with a 50 Baud mechanical teleprinter (Creed 7B) and a
home-made 144 Mc/s AFSK radio link using valves for everything,
including the signal processing - so there!
The complete set-up drew about 10 amps from a 24 volt battery and could
be used car-portable with a range of 20 miles under good conditions -
Bluetooth? Who needs Bluetooth?
--
~ Adrian Tuddenham ~
(Change 'pOOPy' to 'poppy' to reply)
<www.poppyrecords.co.uk> for the most unusual recordings
Adrian Tuddenham
> "Footnote (c): Non-members may substitute jellied eel remnants,
Can you use ones you've boiled yourself or do you have to buy them?
Peter Ceresole
adr...@pOOPyrecords.co.uk (Adrian Tuddenham) wrote:
>> "Footnote (c): Non-members may substitute jellied eel remnants,
>
>Can you use ones you've boiled yourself or do you have to buy them?
You know the over-riding Net rule; be careful in the fish you keep, be
generous in what you give.
--
Peter
Elliott Roper
Tuddenham <adr...@pOOPyrecords.co.uk> wrote:
> Hugh Browton <useneth@**.not.uk> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 2 May 2003 13:59:15 +0100, PeterD wrote
> > (in message <1fubzv7.1sdw4w61u6oemvN%pd....@dsl.pipex.invalid>):
> >
> > >
> > > I started with in-house comms on 300 baud modems in the early 80s,
> >
> >
> > 300 baud? You were LUCKY! We started with 110 baud, and thought we were
> > KINGS!!
>
> Now I've got to join in...
>
> I started with a 50 Baud mechanical teleprinter (Creed 7B) and a
> home-made 144 Mc/s AFSK radio link using valves for everything,
> including the signal processing - so there!
Looxury! We used to dream of 50 Baud!
When I were lad, colleague were making harbour dredge tide gauge
telemetry that transmitted at 0.5 Baud fsk over 27 MHz shore to dredge.
If the display went awol, operators were trained to decode the BCD
depth reading by ear.
(Then they would adjust the cutting depth and lick harbour clean with
tongue)
Elliott Roper
<pe...@cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <rpg14-B63741....@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>,
> "Richard P. Grant" <rp...@yahoo.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>
> >> Where is the definitive hard copy stored? Last I heard it was at the Deal
> >> archive with the permanent rules of Mornington Crescent.
> >
> >Now *there's* an interesting place to visit. Say 'hi' to the head
> >Porter - George - from me if you go there. Nice chap - worth getting to
> >know him, he knows all the tricks that the librarians don't.
>
> My main contact was some years ago with the archivist, Mr Arbuthnot.
....
A colleague, with familiarity in these matters claims:-
"I believe Arbuthnot was Mrs Trellis' maiden name."
SM
> At least on the internet, no-one can see you pummel your buddy.
You've had a sheltered life ;-)
Stuart
--
http://www.sundog.co.uk - cut that out to reply
flavio
BAD86D42...@dclient80-218-55-184.hispeed.ch, "Julian Barkway"
<jbarkwayLEA...@mac.com> wrote:
airplanes in the sunset (ok, not in the sunset) and rainbows
so it hasn't gone all that OT from the original Otness
apart from the Kid Encroute recipes, that is
--
flavio matani
classical guitar tuition/performance
take the obvious bit out to reply...
Bella Jones
pd....@dsl.pipex.invalid wrote on 2/5/03 11:16 am:
>> A meta-FAQ question - should a newcomer to the group wait a while, out of
>> deference to the senior members,
>
> Nope. If they're senior members, they're probably having senior moments
> and won't remember that you haven't already been posting for the last
> five years anyway. But if you like, you can defer to me.
Um. I'll get back to you on that. ;-)
> Fire away. The worst that can happen is there is a bleak sighing wind,
> blowing the tumbleweeds around the lonely unfollowed-up post.
Sigh. Nobody liked 'Mount Count', it appears.
Bella Jones
pd....@dsl.pipex.invalid wrote on 2/5/03 11:43 am:
> In one of those wince-inducing in-jokes that married couples have,
> whenever my wife or I call the other to say we're on our way, we say we
> are "en croute". It's so familiar now it doesn't even sound odd.
Do you say 'Okey-dokey Artichokey' as well, a la Hilary Clinton?
Bella Jones
pe...@cara.demon.co.uk wrote on 2/5/03 1:35 pm:
> But seniority is not a
> concept I'd ever associated with Usenet.
Guess I was thinking of expertise, really. And maybe being cautious after
encounters with self-appointed tosspots (as well as the involuntary kind).
Not here, I hasten to add...
Bella Jones
pd....@dsl.pipex.invalid wrote on 2/5/03 1:59 pm:
> I was having quite a
> good conversation with a fairly buxom woman, had to go to the loo, and
> while I was out of the room my so-called buddy typed "Show me your
> boobs" and sent it with my most recent photo.
Hold on. What was the previous picture you were sending, then?
> and discovered the me she thought she was talking to
> was a bit different from the me I thought I was being.
Ummm. Hitler? Elvis? A pickled herring?
Bella Jones
pe...@cara.demon.co.uk wrote on 2/5/03 2:26 pm:
You smoked something really, really strong before you wrote this.
Jim
> > Hang on, 7865? "All members posting to ucsm must possess at least one
> > pickled herring"? That's all very well and good but I fail to see how
> > its relevant.
> >
>
> Apart from your red flag to the apostrofe police, you need to read (and
> disagree with) the commentary on that Section, and then all will be clearer,
> or murkier, depending on your point of view.
I *did* actually spot that and it was an honest typo. Do I expect you to
believe that? Naaah. Am I telling the truth? Strangely, yes.
Jim
--
j...@magrathea.plus.com AIM/iChat:JCAndrew2 Grey...@mac.com
"We deal in the moral equivalent of black holes, where the normal
laws of right and wrong break down; beyond those metaphysical
event horizons there exist ... special circumstances" - Use Of Weapons
Bella Jones
at jbarkwayLEA...@mac.com wrote on 2/5/03 5:58 pm:
I like the stuff in jars with sour cream or curry sauce.
Why am I writing about herrings. Just came home from an event.
Here's a Saddam link. Maybe we're all a bit tired of this topic but this
one's quite amusing.
Jim
> > Hang on, 7865? "All members posting to ucsm must possess at least one
> > pickled herring"? That's all very well and good but I fail to see how
> > its relevant.
>
> "Footnote (c): Non-members may substitute jellied eel remnants, provided
> the meta-FAQ is violated more roughly than is customary."
>
> Remember Jim, you can't go quoting little bits and pieces out of
> context. The meta-FAQ must be taken as a whole, immutable,
> incontrovertible, indivisible and invisible. A-a-a-amen.
Except when it isn't. See section 37954 'meta-exceptions'.
Peter Ceresole
Bella Jones <bella...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>You smoked something really, really strong before you wrote this.
Not really.
I just love 'Copenhagen' and 'Mornington Crescent' and the rest follows.
Have you noticed that MC is a piece of authentic British surrealism; the
form without the content? An analysis of exterior phenomena which genuinely
says a great deal about the way humans interact on a deeper level. Similar
to some of the wilder spirals of the Goon Show. Nobody else does this kind
of thing although they generate plenty of examples of the root game. The
Swiss especially have a very ancient card game called 'Jass', played with
an odd Tarot-looking deck, or a cut-down normal deck. It involves a lot of
shouting, declarations and banging down of cards. When we were filming in
Zurich we went every evening for dinner to the station buffet (sadly now
defunct and replaced with bars full of fabulous looking African
prostitutes). There was a permanent Jass school of old guys there and
although I couldn't understand a word of their thick Zurcher-deutsch, every
ebb and flow of the game could be followed with pinpoint accuracy from the
other end of the room. That's the special genius of Mornington Crescent; it
understands that fundamentally the game doesn't matter a jot, and the
gestalt is the essential.
--
Peter
Richard Lanyon
pe...@cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) wrote:
> Have you noticed that MC is a piece of authentic British surrealism; the
> form without the content?
I've often thought that MC might be one of these things which just
wouldn't work in any culture other than Britain's.