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Bella Jones

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Nov 24, 2009, 2:37:21 PM11/24/09
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Someone just gave me an old A3 scanner, a Mustek ScanExpress SE A3 USB
600 Pro. It has no power supply with it and comes with one disc with
installer for drivers on it. Seems to work with PC and Mac.

Anyone got experience with these? I have installed what I can but can't
see anything in the system that resembles software. It may just be
drivers in fact, and from informal googling I may have to go in through
an app like Photoshop.

Re the power supply, I am comparing the tech specs with my current
scanner, a Epson Perfection 1600 Photo, but cannot figure out whether it
would be safe to try the Mustek out with the Epson's PSU. Fraid I don't
read electrical things very well.

Mustek:
<http://www.mustek.com.tw/html/prod_scan/ScEA3USB600Pro/specification.ht
ml>
Epson:
<http://files.support.epson.com/htmldocs/pr126_/pr126_rf/specs_4.htm>

It would be nice to get it going if possible, even if I do have to buy a
new PSU, but it would be nice to see if i can get it working first.

Thanks to anyone whose got a mo...

--
bellajonez at yahoo dot co dot uk

Marco Bakker

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Nov 25, 2009, 2:35:01 AM11/25/09
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Bella Jones <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

I installed one a week ago for a friend. You need the PSU though, the
USB connecton won't supply power.

I found OS X drivers long ago. Told my friend to install them but he
didn't get it working. I went over and tried to install the open source
SANE drivers, but that didn't work. However when starting Photoshop I
noticed a TWAIN driver in the import menu and that worked. The TWAIN
driver was part of the downloaded software from Mustek (my friend just
didn't find it after installing). You have to supply your serial number
to get to the drivers on the Taiwanese Mustek website but on the german
site they won't bother you with that:
<http://www.mustek.de/eng_/html/treiber/scanner_scanexpress_usb.htm>
.
The TWAIN driver works but the software stinks. It looks and works as if
it's someones first try on OS X programming. If you choose to make a
preview it makes one but you can't dismiss the dialog after that, you
have to make a real scan first. and that's a rather slow process.
All tested on a Mac mini Core Solo with OS X 10.4.11. I am not sure it
will work in newer versions of OS X, but according to their website the
drivers is OK with 10.5. Picture quality is quite OK for such a bargain
A3 scanner but certainly not better than that of a recent Epson scanner.

--


marco

Dr Geoff Hone

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Nov 25, 2009, 5:13:15 AM11/25/09
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On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:37:21 +0000, m...@privacy.net (Bella Jones)
wrote:

<snip>


>
>Re the power supply, I am comparing the tech specs with my current
>scanner, a Epson Perfection 1600 Photo, but cannot figure out whether it
>would be safe to try the Mustek out with the Epson's PSU. Fraid I don't
>read electrical things very well.

<snip>
Look at your Epson PSU - it should tell you what voltage output it is.
The Mustek requires 12v DC, 1.66 amp, 20watt, but I dont know what
polarity. Look on the scanner - at the label with the details
probably for a symbol like a broken circle with a dot in the centre.
Lines coming off thecircle and dot will end in a + or - sign, that
tells you what the specification is. Do that and come back. Meantime
I can check my Universal PSU and see if it can deliver the right
output.
Geoff

Jon B

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Nov 25, 2009, 5:15:31 AM11/25/09
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Bella Jones <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

The Mustek wants 12v, the Epson gives 15v, so it might blow it. So you
may want something like these
<http://maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=96964>
(12v version)
<http://www.amazon.co.uk/Switch-mode-power-supply-3V-1500mA/dp/B000L9C20
6/ref=pd_cp_ce_2>
to power it.
--
Jon B
Above email address IS valid.
<http://www.bramley-computers.co.uk/> Apple Laptop Repairs.

Hugh Browton

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Nov 25, 2009, 7:16:17 AM11/25/09
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On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:37:21 +0000, Bella Jones wrote
(in article <1j9pa4l.vm9ubj1yuoi24N%m...@privacy.net>):

> Someone just gave me an old A3 scanner, a Mustek ScanExpress SE A3 USB
> 600 Pro. It has no power supply with it and comes with one disc with
> installer for drivers on it. Seems to work with PC and Mac.
>
> Anyone got experience with these?

I have a client who loves his to death. Old software and advice from here:

http://www.meier-geinitz.de/sane/

and here:

http://periscopestudio.com/?s=mustek&x=0&y=0


However his old scanner died and he's bought a new A3 scanner and the
included drivers from Mustek are just fine.

>
> It would be nice to get it going if possible, even if I do have to buy a
> new PSU, but it would be nice to see if i can get it working first.
>
> Thanks to anyone whose got a mo...
>
>

Just trying to find out if the p/s from the old scanner is available.....


--
regards
hugh
hugh at clarity point uk point co
(by the sea) (using Hogwasher)

"The question of whether Machines Can Think... is about as relevant as the
question of whether Submarines Can Swim." Edsger Dijkstra (1930-2002)

Bella Jones

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Nov 25, 2009, 4:45:03 PM11/25/09
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Marco Bakker <ma...@mac.local> wrote:

> Bella Jones <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> > Someone just gave me an old A3 scanner, a Mustek ScanExpress SE A3 USB
> > 600 Pro. It has no power supply with it and comes with one disc with
> > installer for drivers on it. Seems to work with PC and Mac.

[...]


> >
> > Thanks to anyone whose got a mo...
>
> I installed one a week ago for a friend. You need the PSU though, the
> USB connecton won't supply power.
>
> I found OS X drivers long ago. Told my friend to install them but he
> didn't get it working. I went over and tried to install the open source
> SANE drivers, but that didn't work. However when starting Photoshop I
> noticed a TWAIN driver in the import menu and that worked. The TWAIN
> driver was part of the downloaded software from Mustek (my friend just
> didn't find it after installing). You have to supply your serial number
> to get to the drivers on the Taiwanese Mustek website but on the german
> site they won't bother you with that:
> <http://www.mustek.de/eng_/html/treiber/scanner_scanexpress_usb.htm>
> .
> The TWAIN driver works but the software stinks. It looks and works as if
> it's someones first try on OS X programming. If you choose to make a
> preview it makes one but you can't dismiss the dialog after that, you
> have to make a real scan first. and that's a rather slow process.
> All tested on a Mac mini Core Solo with OS X 10.4.11. I am not sure it
> will work in newer versions of OS X, but according to their website the
> drivers is OK with 10.5. Picture quality is quite OK for such a bargain
> A3 scanner but certainly not better than that of a recent Epson scanner.

Thanks!

Yes, web comments imply it's iffy for the mac.

Bella Jones

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Nov 25, 2009, 4:45:03 PM11/25/09
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Jon B <black...@jonbradbury.com> wrote:

> Bella Jones <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> > Someone just gave me an old A3 scanner, a Mustek ScanExpress SE A3 USB
> > 600 Pro. It has no power supply with it and comes with one disc with
> > installer for drivers on it. Seems to work with PC and Mac.

[..]


> >
> > Thanks to anyone whose got a mo...
>
> The Mustek wants 12v, the Epson gives 15v, so it might blow it. So you
> may want something like these
> <http://maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=96964>
> (12v version)
> <http://www.amazon.co.uk/Switch-mode-power-supply-3V-1500mA/dp/B000L9C20
> 6/ref=pd_cp_ce_2>
> to power it.

Genius - I spent ages on this last night and came up with:

<http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?moduleno=48484>

Which costs more... Thanks as usual.

Bella Jones

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Nov 25, 2009, 4:45:04 PM11/25/09
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Hugh Browton <useneth@**.not.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:37:21 +0000, Bella Jones wrote
> (in article <1j9pa4l.vm9ubj1yuoi24N%m...@privacy.net>):
>
> > Someone just gave me an old A3 scanner, a Mustek ScanExpress SE A3 USB
> > 600 Pro. It has no power supply with it and comes with one disc with
> > installer for drivers on it. Seems to work with PC and Mac.
> >
> > Anyone got experience with these?
>
> I have a client who loves his to death. Old software and advice from here:
>
> http://www.meier-geinitz.de/sane/
>
> and here:
>
> http://periscopestudio.com/?s=mustek&x=0&y=0
>
>
> However his old scanner died and he's bought a new A3 scanner and the
> included drivers from Mustek are just fine.

[...]


> Just trying to find out if the p/s from the old scanner is available.....

THanks so much for the info...

Bella Jones

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Nov 25, 2009, 4:45:03 PM11/25/09
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Ok. Over the port where the PSU would plug in, it says:

DC IN + [broken circle] -
12V 1.66A

Just to say, I googled this for about two hours last night!

Jaimie Vandenbergh

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Nov 25, 2009, 6:18:11 PM11/25/09
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On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:45:03 +0000, m...@privacy.net (Bella Jones)
wrote:

>Dr Geoff Hone <gnh...@NOTNEEDEDglobalnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:37:21 +0000, m...@privacy.net (Bella Jones)
>> wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>> >
>> >Re the power supply, I am comparing the tech specs with my current
>> >scanner, a Epson Perfection 1600 Photo, but cannot figure out whether it
>> >would be safe to try the Mustek out with the Epson's PSU. Fraid I don't
>> >read electrical things very well.
>> <snip>
>> Look at your Epson PSU - it should tell you what voltage output it is.
>> The Mustek requires 12v DC, 1.66 amp, 20watt, but I dont know what
>> polarity. Look on the scanner - at the label with the details
>> probably for a symbol like a broken circle with a dot in the centre.
>> Lines coming off thecircle and dot will end in a + or - sign, that
>> tells you what the specification is. Do that and come back. Meantime
>> I can check my Universal PSU and see if it can deliver the right
>> output.
>> Geoff
>
>Ok. Over the port where the PSU would plug in, it says:
>
>DC IN + [broken circle] -
>12V 1.66A
>
>Just to say, I googled this for about two hours last night!

The broken circle will have the line going from the centre dot
outwards to either the + or the -. This is to describe which polarity
the pin in the middle is, which is vital for not blowing it up! Have
another look? Eg (ASCII circles are hard!):
,-,
+ --o| -
`-'
for positive pin, or
,-,
+ |o-- -
`-'

for negative.

Cheer - Jaimie
--
"Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend.
Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read" -- Groucho Marx

Bella Jones

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Nov 25, 2009, 7:13:15 PM11/25/09
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Jaimie Vandenbergh <jai...@sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:

> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:45:03 +0000, m...@privacy.net (Bella Jones)
> wrote:

,...]Look on the scanner - at the label with the details


> >> probably for a symbol like a broken circle with a dot in the centre.
> >> Lines coming off thecircle and dot will end in a + or - sign, that
> >> tells you what the specification is. Do that and come back. Meantime
> >> I can check my Universal PSU and see if it can deliver the right
> >> output.
> >> Geoff
> >
> >Ok. Over the port where the PSU would plug in, it says:
> >
> >DC IN + [broken circle] -
> >12V 1.66A
> >
> >Just to say, I googled this for about two hours last night!
>
> The broken circle will have the line going from the centre dot
> outwards to either the + or the -. This is to describe which polarity
> the pin in the middle is, which is vital for not blowing it up! Have
> another look? Eg (ASCII circles are hard!):
> ,-,
> + --o| -
> `-'
> for positive pin, or
> ,-,
> + |o-- -
> `-'
>
> for negative.

Heh - oh right! Positive pin.

I truly had no idea any of this meant anything!

Jaimie Vandenbergh

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Nov 25, 2009, 8:39:36 PM11/25/09
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On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:13:15 +0000, m...@privacy.net (Bella Jones)
wrote:

You are well on the way to mastering the skills of electrickery, or at
least how not to blow stuff up with a disappointing "frp" noise.

So! Now all you need a 12v power supply that can deliver 1.66 amps or
more, with positive pin and the same shape head as the scanner wants.

Even if the Mustek power supply is positive pin and physically fits,
at 17V it's rather high. This'll push the voltage regulation circuits
on the big scanner rather hot. It'll probably work, but not
necessarily for very many days... and it'll be the scanner that gives
up the magic smoke.

Cheers - Jaimie
--
"Persons attempting to find a motive in this narrative will be prosecuted;
persons attempting to find a moral in it will be banished;
persons attempting to find a plot in it will be shot.
By Order of the Author." -- Mark Twain

Dr Geoff Hone

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Nov 26, 2009, 4:32:32 AM11/26/09
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OK Bella

Now you know that you need 12 volts and the centre pin is positive
(+), all you have to do is to match the outside diameter of the plug,
and the diameter of the pin.
Most of the "Universal" PSUs have a range of plugs (mine does) and
these are usually reversable so that you can get the polarity (thats
the + and -) right.
Might be a good time to buy one - if the Mustek can be made to work
then you have an A3 scanner (just what you always wanted), and if not,
you have a Universal PSU for the next time you need one.

Sara

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Nov 26, 2009, 7:19:27 AM11/26/09
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In article <4gisg5t580vmup9pt...@4ax.com>,

Dr Geoff Hone <gnh...@NOTNEEDEDglobalnet.co.uk> wrote:

Bella - I've got one of those jobbies at home. I'll try to remember to
bring it over on Saturday to try out, then if it works you can get one
and if it doesn't it hasn't cost you anything.

--
Sara

Cuddler of rats, cats and husband

Hugh Browton

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Nov 26, 2009, 7:51:12 AM11/26/09
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On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:16:17 +0000, Hugh Browton wrote
(in article <0001HW.C732D091...@news.individual.net>):


>
> Just trying to find out if the p/s from the old scanner is available.....
>


Sorry, Bella, he's decided to hang onto p/s just in case he needs to put old
scanner in place (it works, but without some feature he likes).

Bella Jones

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Nov 26, 2009, 9:28:58 AM11/26/09
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Sara <sarame...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

fab xx :-)

Bella Jones

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Nov 26, 2009, 9:30:23 AM11/26/09
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Hugh Browton <useneth@**.not.uk> wrote:

> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:16:17 +0000, Hugh Browton wrote
> (in article <0001HW.C732D091...@news.individual.net>):
>
>
> >
> > Just trying to find out if the p/s from the old scanner is available.....
> >
>
>
> Sorry, Bella, he's decided to hang onto p/s just in case he needs to put old
> scanner in place (it works, but without some feature he likes).

no worries - thanks for asking!

Bella Jones

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Nov 26, 2009, 5:57:11 PM11/26/09
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Jaimie Vandenbergh <jai...@sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:

> On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:13:15 +0000, m...@privacy.net (Bella Jones)
> wrote:
>
> >Jaimie Vandenbergh <jai...@sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:45:03 +0000, m...@privacy.net (Bella Jones)
> >> wrote:

[...]


> >> ,-,
> >> + --o| -
> >> `-'
> >> for positive pin, or
> >> ,-,
> >> + |o-- -
> >> `-'
> >>
> >> for negative.
> >
> >Heh - oh right! Positive pin.
> >
> >I truly had no idea any of this meant anything!
>
> You are well on the way to mastering the skills of electrickery, or at
> least how not to blow stuff up with a disappointing "frp" noise.
>
> So! Now all you need a 12v power supply that can deliver 1.66 amps or
> more, with positive pin and the same shape head as the scanner wants.
>
> Even if the Mustek power supply is positive pin and physically fits,
> at 17V it's rather high. This'll push the voltage regulation circuits
> on the big scanner rather hot. It'll probably work, but not
> necessarily for very many days... and it'll be the scanner that gives
> up the magic smoke.

Thanks! But why is there so much variety? Why plus and minus? Volts and
amps. Oh actually no, you don't have to answer that!

Gareth John

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Nov 27, 2009, 6:16:35 AM11/27/09
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Bella Jones <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

[snip]


>
> Thanks! But why is there so much variety? Why plus and minus? Volts and
> amps. Oh actually no, you don't have to answer that!

Why nouns, verbs, prepositions and conjunctions? Why adverbs as well as
adjectives? Why metaphor, simile, exclamation and interrogation? Why
subjunctive, optative, litotes, hyperbole, anastrophe, synecdoche?

Language is a much more complex business than electricity...

--
From Gareth John

Peter Ceresole

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Nov 27, 2009, 6:26:33 AM11/27/09
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Gareth John <g.j...@PLUG.btinternet.com> wrote:

> Why nouns, verbs, prepositions and conjunctions? Why adverbs as well as
> adjectives? Why metaphor, simile, exclamation and interrogation? Why
> subjunctive, optative, litotes, hyperbole, anastrophe, synecdoche?

Ooooo gosh! Thesaurus time!

Isn't it nice?
--
Peter

Gareth John

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Nov 27, 2009, 7:09:50 AM11/27/09
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Peter Ceresole <pe...@cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:

So many hours to fill, so little work.

Nice; but not nice, too.
--
From Gareth John
Please pull out the plug if you want to reply by email

Bella Jones

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Dec 13, 2009, 1:12:11 PM12/13/09
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Marco Bakker <ma...@mac.local> wrote:

> Bella Jones <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> > Someone just gave me an old A3 scanner, a Mustek ScanExpress SE A3 USB
> > 600 Pro. It has no power supply with it and comes with one disc with
> > installer for drivers on it. Seems to work with PC and Mac.

[...]


> >
> > It would be nice to get it going if possible, even if I do have to buy a
> > new PSU, but it would be nice to see if i can get it working first.
> >
> > Thanks to anyone whose got a mo...

> I installed one a week ago for a friend. You need the PSU though, the
> USB connecton won't supply power.
>
> I found OS X drivers long ago. Told my friend to install them but he
> didn't get it working. I went over and tried to install the open source
> SANE drivers, but that didn't work. However when starting Photoshop I
> noticed a TWAIN driver in the import menu and that worked. The TWAIN
> driver was part of the downloaded software from Mustek (my friend just
> didn't find it after installing). You have to supply your serial number
> to get to the drivers on the Taiwanese Mustek website but on the german
> site they won't bother you with that:
> <http://www.mustek.de/eng_/html/treiber/scanner_scanexpress_usb.htm>
> .
> The TWAIN driver works but the software stinks. It looks and works as if
> it's someones first try on OS X programming. If you choose to make a
> preview it makes one but you can't dismiss the dialog after that, you
> have to make a real scan first. and that's a rather slow process.
> All tested on a Mac mini Core Solo with OS X 10.4.11. I am not sure it
> will work in newer versions of OS X, but according to their website the
> drivers is OK with 10.5. Picture quality is quite OK for such a bargain
> A3 scanner but certainly not better than that of a recent Epson scanner.

Marco, or Hugh, if you're reading.

I've just found a working power supply from Maplins. Now the fun starts.
The driver can be seen by Photoshop Elements, but it tells me there is
no scanner connected.

Query - is a TWAIN driver the same as a driver, or is it something else?
I wonder if I haven't got the right install discs.

The German site mentioned above doesn't work, and the Mustek.com.tw
download site is ancient and refers to Windows 98. Have been googling
relentlessly. I appear to have installed both Twain and 'English
language' package, but to no avail.

Marco Bakker

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Dec 13, 2009, 5:45:02 PM12/13/09
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Bella Jones <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

Yes, I see the german site is not working anymore, it did last week, I'm
sorry. But try the A3 USB 1200 Pro software at this site:
<http://www.mustek.com/mustek/supportdrivers.php>
Select 'scanner' 'usb port' and 'a3 usb 1200 pro'. Then you will see
drivers for OS X 10.4 and 10.5. If I recall correctly they work with
your scanner as well.

--


marco

Bella Jones

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Dec 13, 2009, 6:01:00 PM12/13/09
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Marco Bakker <ma...@mac.local> wrote:

> Bella Jones <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
[...[

It works - you star! Thanks so much. I just couldn't find that link.

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