These new iMacs....
Andy Hewitt
changes, and maybe buy a new iMac.
However, I've just seen these reports of the new ones with screen issues
- broken panels, flickering display and yellow casts.
The sources seem quite strong too, although mostly originating from the
Apple Discussions groups, they appear to be confirmed by Apple delaying
delivery of the 27" model, and has even been covered by TidBits.
How long to wait for a fix, or should I look for a tried and tested 24"
of the older model?
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Andy Hewitt
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Jaimie Vandenbergh
wrote:
>I'm just getting to a point where I hope I can make some financial
>changes, and maybe buy a new iMac.
>
>However, I've just seen these reports of the new ones with screen issues
>- broken panels, flickering display and yellow casts.
>
>The sources seem quite strong too, although mostly originating from the
>Apple Discussions groups, they appear to be confirmed by Apple delaying
>delivery of the 27" model, and has even been covered by TidBits.
And everwhere else! Recieved wisdom seems to implicate the packaging
for the broken screens, but also dubious backlights and dodgy graphics
cards for the other faults so it's a stab in the dark.
I wouldn't let it stop you. If they've put a brake on delivery to do
extra QA and maybe redo the packaging, then that's fine.
>How long to wait for a fix, or should I look for a tried and tested 24"
>of the older model?
The older models are going for *excellent* prices on the Refurb store
- �700 off the top model, for example.
Cheers - Jaimie
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Hugh Browton
(in article <1jarvq8.13f8tkivte5sN%thewil...@me.com>):
I've had one 2o+ inch through here - it was perfect. There's a prev-model
24" on refurbs (or, there was this morning).....
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Andy Hewitt
> On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:48:57 +0000, thewil...@me.com (Andy Hewitt)
> wrote:
>
> >I'm just getting to a point where I hope I can make some financial
> >changes, and maybe buy a new iMac.
> >
> >However, I've just seen these reports of the new ones with screen issues
> >- broken panels, flickering display and yellow casts.
> >
> >The sources seem quite strong too, although mostly originating from the
> >Apple Discussions groups, they appear to be confirmed by Apple delaying
> >delivery of the 27" model, and has even been covered by TidBits.
>
> And everwhere else! Recieved wisdom seems to implicate the packaging
> for the broken screens, but also dubious backlights and dodgy graphics
> cards for the other faults so it's a stab in the dark.
>
> I wouldn't let it stop you. If they've put a brake on delivery to do
> extra QA and maybe redo the packaging, then that's fine.
For sure. I don't mind waiting a little while, it's just that I'll be
ready to buy one sooner rather than later, if it all works out. I really
need to organise so that Emily can have a better machine for school
work, and that's already been stretched out longer than I wanted.
> >How long to wait for a fix, or should I look for a tried and tested 24"
> >of the older model?
>
> The older models are going for *excellent* prices on the Refurb store
> - �700 off the top model, for example.
Yeah, that's what I'm wondering. The 27" could be a bit of overkill for
my needs anyway, the old 24" would be just ideal - besides, I can
connect a 20" widescreen as well if needed.
Martin-S
thewil...@me.com (Andy Hewitt) wrote:
> I'm just getting to a point where I hope I can make some financial
> changes, and maybe buy a new iMac.
As far as I remember, you're doing a lot of photography.
I'd check out the glossy screens before buying an iMac; they can be
rather problematic.
The guys at robgalbraith.com consider glossy displays inacceptable for
image editing:
<http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=7-10041-10146>
Further down the page there are rollover images that show the problem
quite clearly.
I only use matte screens, and if I'm wearing something brightly
coloured, I can still detect an irritating, faint reflection.
--
Martin
Bella Jones
Lots of interesting thoughts in this thread. I also noticed the 24"
refurbs...
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bellajonez at yahoo dot co dot uk
Jaimie Vandenbergh
wrote:
>Lots of interesting thoughts in this thread. I also noticed the 24"
>refurbs...
I've been re-noticing the top end 24" with the GT130 for �1099
reappearing about six times in the last two weeks. I want one, but I
want a 27" one more. But not �700 more.
Usefully, since I don't *need* either, the resulting decision
paralysis is keeping my credit card in my pocket.
Cheers - Jaimie
--
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Andy Hewitt
> In article <1jarvq8.13f8tkivte5sN%thewil...@me.com>,
> thewil...@me.com (Andy Hewitt) wrote:
>
> > I'm just getting to a point where I hope I can make some financial
> > changes, and maybe buy a new iMac.
>
> As far as I remember, you're doing a lot of photography.
A bit yes, only as an enthusiast though.
> I'd check out the glossy screens before buying an iMac; they can be
> rather problematic.
I have a glossy MacBook, and yes I agree, the glossy screen isn't really
ideal at times. I use a matte 20" HP monitor for most of the work I do
though, so I could still use something like that as a second display
with Aperture.
> The guys at robgalbraith.com consider glossy displays inacceptable for
> image editing:
> <http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=7-10041-10146>
>
> Further down the page there are rollover images that show the problem
> quite clearly.
No need, I already have a glossy screen. Thanks.
> I only use matte screens, and if I'm wearing something brightly
> coloured, I can still detect an irritating, faint reflection.
I believe Apple do recommend surrounding yourself in neutral colours
when photo editing - even plain wallpaper and such.
I do find that I tend to darken the room slightly when I'm photo editing
anyway, so the problems with the glossy screen aren't so prominent.
SM
> On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:36:01 +0000, m...@privacy.net (Bella Jones)
> wrote:
>
> >Lots of interesting thoughts in this thread. I also noticed the 24"
> >refurbs...
>
> I've been re-noticing the top end 24" with the GT130 for �1099
> reappearing about six times in the last two weeks. I want one, but I
> want a 27" one more. But not �700 more.
>
> Usefully, since I don't *need* either, the resulting decision
> paralysis is keeping my credit card in my pocket.
I've ordered two i5 27" iMacs - not for myself unfortunately. I'm still
in $hopping limbo waiting for Mac Pro and MBP updates.
Stuart
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Pd
> The guys at robgalbraith.com consider glossy displays inacceptable for
> image editing
I find them pretty unusable for video editing too, which often involves
fairly dark footage.
(I wonder if digital video should be called bytage?)
> I only use matte screens, and if I'm wearing something brightly
> coloured, I can still detect an irritating, faint reflection.
Aha! Perhaps that's why I loathe this damned glossy screen.
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Pd
Rob
> Jaimie Vandenbergh<jai...@sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:48:57 +0000, thewil...@me.com (Andy Hewitt)
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm just getting to a point where I hope I can make some financial
>>> changes, and maybe buy a new iMac.
>>>
>>> However, I've just seen these reports of the new ones with screen issues
>>> - broken panels, flickering display and yellow casts.
>>>
>>> The sources seem quite strong too, although mostly originating from the
>>> Apple Discussions groups, they appear to be confirmed by Apple delaying
>>> delivery of the 27" model, and has even been covered by TidBits.
>>
>> And everwhere else! Recieved wisdom seems to implicate the packaging
>> for the broken screens, but also dubious backlights and dodgy graphics
>> cards for the other faults so it's a stab in the dark.
>>
>> I wouldn't let it stop you. If they've put a brake on delivery to do
>> extra QA and maybe redo the packaging, then that's fine.
>
Mine's sort of fine now - some early kernel panics seem to have sorted
themselves out, and the slightly louder than I'd expect hard disk
accessing noise is less bothersome (they've fitted the performance
rather than 'green' WD disk in mine for some reason). Not that impressed
with the mouse or keyboard.
> For sure. I don't mind waiting a little while, it's just that I'll be
> ready to buy one sooner rather than later, if it all works out. I really
> need to organise so that Emily can have a better machine for school
> work, and that's already been stretched out longer than I wanted.
>
>>> How long to wait for a fix, or should I look for a tried and tested 24"
>>> of the older model?
>>
>> The older models are going for *excellent* prices on the Refurb store
>> - �700 off the top model, for example.
>
Indeed. You really need to have some spare cash.
> Yeah, that's what I'm wondering. The 27" could be a bit of overkill for
> my needs anyway, the old 24" would be just ideal - besides, I can
> connect a 20" widescreen as well if needed.
>
I've found the 27" screen a case of not realising until I use it - it's
almost like having 2 full sized monitors side by side - I work on two
halves of the screen, there's that much space.
If I need to do amateur video or photo work I just dim the lights - but
of course, that's probably not possible in an office. The 27" screen is
considerably 'whiter' than the 24" screen - I don't actually think it's
brighter, just that the contrast seems higher.
And of course if time is of the essence the i5/i7 processors are
impressive - I think a factor of 3 faster for video work, and things
like resizing 100 photos (3MB to 50kb) just a blur. Then there's the
extra RAM capacity.
Rob
Andy Hewitt
> On 15/12/2009 16:19, Andy Hewitt wrote:
> > Jaimie Vandenbergh<jai...@sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:
[..]
> >> I wouldn't let it stop you. If they've put a brake on delivery to do
> >> extra QA and maybe redo the packaging, then that's fine.
> >
>
> Mine's sort of fine now - some early kernel panics seem to have sorted
> themselves out, and the slightly louder than I'd expect hard disk
> accessing noise is less bothersome (they've fitted the performance
> rather than 'green' WD disk in mine for some reason). Not that impressed
> with the mouse or keyboard.
Yeah, I'm not sure about the mouse yet either. I actually use an old
Logitech Marblemouse myself, and I've have to get the full size
keyboard.
[..]
> > Yeah, that's what I'm wondering. The 27" could be a bit of overkill for
> > my needs anyway, the old 24" would be just ideal - besides, I can
> > connect a 20" widescreen as well if needed.
> >
>
> I've found the 27" screen a case of not realising until I use it - it's
> almost like having 2 full sized monitors side by side - I work on two
> halves of the screen, there's that much space.
>
> If I need to do amateur video or photo work I just dim the lights - but
> of course, that's probably not possible in an office. The 27" screen is
> considerably 'whiter' than the 24" screen - I don't actually think it's
> brighter, just that the contrast seems higher.
>
> And of course if time is of the essence the i5/i7 processors are
> impressive - I think a factor of 3 faster for video work, and things
> like resizing 100 photos (3MB to 50kb) just a blur. Then there's the
> extra RAM capacity.
Of course I'd like the fastest one possible, but I've got to be
relatively sensible with my budget, and look to getting the best overall
value too.
J. J. Lodder
For a few dollars more....
Jan
Martin S Taylor
>> The guys at robgalbraith.com consider glossy displays inacceptable for
>> image editing
>
> I find them pretty unusable for video editing too, which often involves
> fairly dark footage.
Depends how they're lit, surely. I have a glossy-screen 24" iMac of which
the main use is video editing, and it's hard to see that it is a glossy
screen, even when editing dark footage.
MST
Peter Ceresole
> Depends how they're lit, surely. I have a glossy-screen 24" iMac of which
> the main use is video editing, and it's hard to see that it is a glossy
> screen, even when editing dark footage.
Yes, definitely. Everything depends on the lighting of the room you use.
Personally, I love the glossy screens; I use Anne's MBP and the
contrast, sharpness and clarity are lovely.
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Peter