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> Flavio, Elliott, anyone else? How are you finding them?
I love it. I loved my Mighty Mouse, but oh, you Magic!
The only niggle is that on rare occasions the scroll is a smidge too
sensitive, and I get a slight upward scrolling movement as I bring my
paw up to the mouse to move it, even before I make contact with it.
Presumably when my fingers are in Coulomb view.
The momentum stuff is quite addictive.
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> Flavio, Elliott, anyone else? How are you finding them?
Been using it for a week now, and I'm loving it.
But be warned - I have an untypically good track record with Apple mice.
It has the same 'click' charactistics as the Mighty Mouse, ie you have
to lift your finger off to right-click. If this bothers you, you won't
like it.
Jim
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> charactistics
Oh, good Lord....
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> It has the same 'click' charactistics as the Mighty Mouse, ie you have
> to lift your finger off to right-click. If this bothers you, you won't
> like it.
Thanks for that.
In the Apple Store, when we were playing with them, they seemed pretty
nice, but that one 'feature' would stop me buying one. This is a purely
personal preference, but it's what makes the Mighty Mouse unusable for
me, except as a one button mouse which is really not what I want.
But that's just software. I'll wait to see how they develop it.
--
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Oddly, my boss has one and loves it, except that he can't find a way for
it to act as a one-button mouse. It doesn't matter how many people wax
lyrical about the benefits of >1 button, that's all he wants. Other than
that he loves it enough to buy another to use on his Mac at home.
--
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Cuddler of rats, cats and husband
I don't know if it isn't actually the firmware on the mouse rather than
the driver, and I doubt that is upgradable. And as that is the same
fault as the mighty mouse, I don't see that they will update it.
Having said that, maybe someone will copy the good bits?
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> Oddly, my boss has one and loves it, except that he can't find a way
> forit to act as a one-button mouse.
Isn't that the default configuration?
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Yes. I received mine yesterday along with the 27" i5, and although I was
initially somewhat sceptical (not having seen/touched it in real life
before), it is actually the best mouse that I've ever used. I used the
default configuration for an hour or so, but then decided to activate
the right-click mode. Works great for me.
Hans
I _think_ it tries to match itself to what your Mighty Mouse config was. I
don't recall having to activate 2nd click.
I'd imagine that if you weren't previously using a Mighty Mouse then it
would default to a single-button configuration.
My Oasis of Calm has dried up. However, my Garden of Angry is
flourishing quite nicely.
Sadly no, and there's no obvious way to tell it to use both sides as
"primary button".
Hmmm. Wonder why that wasn't an option here?
> On 2009-11-26, Chris Ridd <chri...@mac.com> wrote:
> > On 2009-11-26 07:44:22 +0000, Sara Merriman said:
> >
> >> Oddly, my boss has one and loves it, except that he can't find a way
> >> forit to act as a one-button mouse.
> >
> > Isn't that the default configuration?
>
> I _think_ it tries to match itself to what your Mighty Mouse config was. I
> don't recall having to activate 2nd click.
>
> I'd imagine that if you weren't previously using a Mighty Mouse then it
> would default to a single-button configuration.
>
> Jim
Argh. Yes, his previous mouse was a two-button one. Now, how the blazes
to change it.
What options are there under 'secondary click' (or whatever it's called) ?
> On 2009-11-26, Sara <sarame...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Oddly, my boss has one and loves it, except that he can't find a way
> >> >> forit to act as a one-button mouse.
> >> >
> >> > Isn't that the default configuration?
> >>
> >> I _think_ it tries to match itself to what your Mighty Mouse config was. I
> >> don't recall having to activate 2nd click.
> >>
> >> I'd imagine that if you weren't previously using a Mighty Mouse then it
> >> would default to a single-button configuration.
> >>
> >> Jim
> >
> > Argh. Yes, his previous mouse was a two-button one. Now, how the blazes
> > to change it.
> >
>
> What options are there under 'secondary click' (or whatever it's called) ?
That's it. Untick "One finger/secondary click" and you have a one
button mouse.
I use it with my left hand. Like the mighty Mouse before it, it becomes
far better behaved for us southpaws by setting the secondary click to
the left.
That has the side benefit of confusing the b'Jasus out of anybody
playing in my account.
SWMBO goes one further - she's right-handed, but uses her mice in a
left-handed configuration.
She cooks a *damn* fine duck though, otherwise I'd probably have to shoot
her.
> In article <1j9rb3h.1hxefqq10rf93pN%m...@privacy.net>, Bella Jones
> <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> > Flavio, Elliott, anyone else? How are you finding them?
>
> I love it. I loved my Mighty Mouse, but oh, you Magic!
>
> The only niggle is that on rare occasions the scroll is a smidge too
> sensitive, and I get a slight upward scrolling movement as I bring my
> paw up to the mouse to move it, even before I make contact with it.
> Presumably when my fingers are in Coulomb view.
>
> The momentum stuff is quite addictive.
Yep, subscribe to all that.
See whether it lasts or develops quirks, as all machinery is wont to do,
but for the time being it is luverly. I mentioned elsewhere that I was
fearing not being able to easily adjust to the different holding
position required for the mouse (normally I grab the mouse with the
whole palm, rest both fingers all the time, etc), but I took to it
straight away and didn't have to think about it.
Once in a while it does interpret grabbing the mouse as a scroll; once
or twice it hasn't responded to a scrolling movement, but in general it
works beautifully and -well, what else, it's a mouse, it works as
advertised.
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Do you find that there's a tiny, *tiny* delay between moving the mouse and
the pointer moving, if the mouse has been untouched for a couple of seconds?
> Flavio, Elliott, anyone else? How are you finding them?
I love it. Well, that might be putting it a little too strongly, it's
only a mouse, but it is luverly.
If you want I can lend it to you for a day or two so you get a better
idea whether you want one -if you have bluetooth in your iMac.
> Jim <j...@magrathea.plus.com> wrote:
>
> > charactistics
>
> Oh, good Lord....
>
character tic ticks?
> On 2009-11-26, Flavio Matani <flavio_matani...@mac.com> wrote:
> >
> > Once in a while it does interpret grabbing the mouse as a scroll; once
> > or twice it hasn't responded to a scrolling movement, but in general it
> > works beautifully and -well, what else, it's a mouse, it works as
> > advertised.
>
> Do you find that there's a tiny, *tiny* delay between moving the mouse and
> the pointer moving, if the mouse has been untouched for a couple of seconds?
>
Not for the pointer to move but if I reach down to scroll straight away
yes, a little bit sometimes.
> Bella Jones <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> > Flavio, Elliott, anyone else? How are you finding them?
>
> I love it. Well, that might be putting it a little too strongly, it's
> only a mouse, but it is luverly.
>
> If you want I can lend it to you for a day or two so you get a better
> idea whether you want one -if you have bluetooth in your iMac.
Eh? Is it bluetooth only?
> She cooks a *damn* fine duck though, otherwise I'd probably have to shoot
> her.
Having met her I'd say that would be a criminal waste. If needs, just
pass her on...
--
Peter
> On 2009-11-26, Sara <sarame...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Oddly, my boss has one and loves it, except that he can't find a way
> >> >> forit to act as a one-button mouse.
> >> >
> >> > Isn't that the default configuration?
> >>
> >> I _think_ it tries to match itself to what your Mighty Mouse config was. I
> >> don't recall having to activate 2nd click.
> >>
> >> I'd imagine that if you weren't previously using a Mighty Mouse then it
> >> would default to a single-button configuration.
> >>
> >> Jim
> >
> > Argh. Yes, his previous mouse was a two-button one. Now, how the blazes
> > to change it.
> >
>
> What options are there under 'secondary click' (or whatever it's called) ?
>
> Jim
STOP PRESS!!! I went over to see what could be done (again) and he's
managed it. Apparently after downloading the magic mouse software update
jobbie, it now does what was expected.
So, basically, I lied. But I didn't mean to.
The coffee _really_ doesn't kick in as early as it used to...
My Oasis of Calm has dried up. However, my Garden of Angry is
flourishing quite nicely.
Might be me just seeing something that isn't there, then. Pretty sure there
is the tiniest of delays though. Not a problem though.
'Fraid so.
Then _she'd_ shoot _me_.
That's not lying. It's only lying if you know it to be false.
> On 2009-11-26, Bella Jones <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> I love it. Well, that might be putting it a little too strongly, it's
> >> only a mouse, but it is luverly.
> >>
> >> If you want I can lend it to you for a day or two so you get a better
> >> idea whether you want one -if you have bluetooth in your iMac.
> >
> > Eh? Is it bluetooth only?
>
> 'Fraid so.
But that's ridiculous. I'm sure the ones in the shop had wires, or where
they just for security? In that case, I don't think i can use it without
a dongle. I have an ancient one somewhere that I bought from James
Savage (RIP James) years ago.
I don't think this G4 has is automatically. My dongle is D-Link
DWB-120M.
HOw stupid. I thought no one used bluetooth any more.
The Mighty Mouse (scroll pea) was available in wired and wireless versions.
So far as I can tell the Magic Mouse is wireless only. I'd have preferred a
wired version but there doesn't seem to be one.
> I don't think this G4 has is automatically. My dongle is D-Link
> DWB-120M.
I have no idea if that would work, sorry.
> HOw stupid. I thought no one used bluetooth any more.
Apple's wireless keyboards and mice use it.
'Fraid so, m'dear. Thass what I checked at the time.
--
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imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"
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> > So, basically, I lied. But I didn't mean to.
>
> That's not lying. It's only lying if you know it to be false.
But this is usenet, where the tiniest error is often labelled a lie. Or,
of course, an insult.
All to do with the degradation of language. Myself, I blame electrons.
--
Peter
I think she might have been sneering as well. The minx.
> All to do with the degradation of language. Myself, I blame electrons.
I blame pear trees. They're up to something.
What a negative view!
> On 2009-11-26, Bella Jones <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Eh? Is it bluetooth only?
> >>
> >> 'Fraid so.
> >
> > But that's ridiculous. I'm sure the ones in the shop had wires, or where
> > they just for security? In that case, I don't think i can use it without
> > a dongle. I have an ancient one somewhere that I bought from James
> > Savage (RIP James) years ago.
>
> The Mighty Mouse (scroll pea) was available in wired and wireless versions.
> So far as I can tell the Magic Mouse is wireless only. I'd have preferred a
> wired version but there doesn't seem to be one.
Wanktards.
> > I don't think this G4 has is automatically. My dongle is D-Link
> > DWB-120M.
>
> I have no idea if that would work, sorry.
I was just typing it out for my own reference, and in a small rage. :-)
> > HOw stupid. I thought no one used bluetooth any more.
>
> Apple's wireless keyboards and mice use it.
Do people even use dongles any more? I mean, I could buy one but that is
what 20 quid on top of the mouse? Am now furtling.
Arseflaps of doom.
> On 2009-11-26, Peter Ceresole <pe...@cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > Jim <j...@magrathea.plus.com> wrote:
> >
> >> > So, basically, I lied. But I didn't mean to.
> >>
> >> That's not lying. It's only lying if you know it to be false.
> >
> > But this is usenet, where the tiniest error is often labelled a lie. Or,
> > of course, an insult.
>
> I think she might have been sneering as well. The minx.
>
> > All to do with the degradation of language. Myself, I blame electrons.
>
> I blame pear trees. They're up to something.
I blame that bottle of Stain Slayer over there on the kitchen top.
Please resist the erg to do this again or I'm going ohm.
The big problem is that all Macs for the last 3-or-so years (at a guess)
have had bluetooth built in as standard.
You might well find your existing dongle works, but I can't think of a way
of testing it short of borrowing a Magic Mouse from some kind soul.
> On 2009-11-26, Sara <sarame...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > STOP PRESS!!! I went over to see what could be done (again) and he's
> > managed it. Apparently after downloading the magic mouse software update
> > jobbie, it now does what was expected.
> >
> > So, basically, I lied. But I didn't mean to.
>
> That's not lying. It's only lying if you know it to be false.
>
> Jim
Phew!
> On 2009-11-26, Elliott Roper <nos...@yrl.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> > > So, basically, I lied. But I didn't mean to.
>>> >
>>> > That's not lying. It's only lying if you know it to be false.
>>>
>>> But this is usenet, where the tiniest error is often labelled a lie.
>>> Or,
>>> of course, an insult.
>>>
>>> All to do with the degradation of language. Myself, I blame electrons.
>>
>> What a negative view!
>>
>
> Please resist the erg to do this again or I'm going ohm.
>
> Jim
Joule be sorry you started this, it has the potential to get rather
re-volting.
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Arseflaps be damned! I'll bring a BT dongle or two over too.
So I'm LED to believe, but I'll just have to solder on.
> >>> All to do with the degradation of language. Myself, I blame electrons.
> >>
> >> What a negative view!
> >>
> >
> > Please resist the erg to do this again or I'm going ohm.
> >
> > Jim
>
> Joule be sorry you started this, it has the potential to get rather
> re-volting.
But only if you keep it going for coulomb.
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> > > All to do with the degradation of language. Myself, I blame electrons.
> >
> > I blame pear trees. They're up to something.
>
> I blame that bottle of Stain Slayer over there on the kitchen top.
Nope. It's electrons. They have their own agenda, you know.
--
Peter
> On 2009-11-26, Flavio Matani <flavio_matani...@mac.com> wrote:
>> Jim <j...@magrathea.plus.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2009-11-26, Flavio Matani <flavio_matani...@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Once in a while it does interpret grabbing the mouse as a scroll; once
>>>> or twice it hasn't responded to a scrolling movement, but in general it
>>>> works beautifully and -well, what else, it's a mouse, it works as
>>>> advertised.
>>>
>>> Do you find that there's a tiny, *tiny* delay between moving the mouse and
>>> the pointer moving, if the mouse has been untouched for a couple of seconds?
>>>
>>
>> Not for the pointer to move but if I reach down to scroll straight away
>> yes, a little bit sometimes.
>
> Might be me just seeing something that isn't there, then. Pretty sure there
> is the tiniest of delays though. Not a problem though.
Sounds like a bit of Bluetooth latency, like the mouse is reconnecting
or something?
--
Chris
> In article <1j9so3i.1kixzh81v4hso4N%m...@privacy.net>,
> m...@privacy.net (Bella Jones) wrote:
[...]
> >
> > Wanktards.
> >
> > > > I don't think this G4 has is automatically. My dongle is D-Link
> > > > DWB-120M.
> > >
> > > I have no idea if that would work, sorry.
> >
> > I was just typing it out for my own reference, and in a small rage. :-)
> >
> > > > HOw stupid. I thought no one used bluetooth any more.
> > >
> > > Apple's wireless keyboards and mice use it.
> >
> > Do people even use dongles any more? I mean, I could buy one but that is
> > what 20 quid on top of the mouse? Am now furtling.
> >
> > Arseflaps of doom.
>
> Arseflaps be damned! I'll bring a BT dongle or two over too.
Oh you are a honeybun! *kiss*
I think it's the mouse waking up. I think it sleeps very, very quickly.
>On 2009-11-26, Flavio Matani <flavio_matani...@mac.com> wrote:
>> Jim <j...@magrathea.plus.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2009-11-26, Flavio Matani <flavio_matani...@mac.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Once in a while it does interpret grabbing the mouse as a scroll; once
>>> > or twice it hasn't responded to a scrolling movement, but in general it
>>> > works beautifully and -well, what else, it's a mouse, it works as
>>> > advertised.
>>>
>>> Do you find that there's a tiny, *tiny* delay between moving the mouse and
>>> the pointer moving, if the mouse has been untouched for a couple of seconds?
>>>
>>
>> Not for the pointer to move but if I reach down to scroll straight away
>> yes, a little bit sometimes.
>
>Might be me just seeing something that isn't there, then. Pretty sure there
>is the tiniest of delays though. Not a problem though.
I'm sure it will exist - it's the bluetooth waking up, and it's
working-as-designed. Otherwise the battery goes flat.
Cheers - Jaimie
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I want to know what the evidence shows." -- Richard Dawkins
My thoughts as well. I only saw it because it took a _wee_ bit longer than
normal, once, and I started looking for it.
I repeat though, not a problem.
> Sara <sarame...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > In article <1j9so3i.1kixzh81v4hso4N%m...@privacy.net>,
> > m...@privacy.net (Bella Jones) wrote:
> [...]
> > >
> > > Wanktards.
> > >
> > > > > I don't think this G4 has is automatically. My dongle is D-Link
> > > > > DWB-120M.
> > > >
> > > > I have no idea if that would work, sorry.
> > >
> > > I was just typing it out for my own reference, and in a small rage. :-)
> > >
> > > > > HOw stupid. I thought no one used bluetooth any more.
> > > >
> > > > Apple's wireless keyboards and mice use it.
> > >
> > > Do people even use dongles any more? I mean, I could buy one but that is
> > > what 20 quid on top of the mouse? Am now furtling.
> > >
> > > Arseflaps of doom.
> >
> > Arseflaps be damned! I'll bring a BT dongle or two over too.
>
> Oh you are a honeybun! *kiss*
**simper**
> It's only lying if you know it to be false.
My first wife used to win at Scrabble with words that didn't exist. She
maintained you could use a word if you genuinely believed it to be a
real word.
I think she single-handedly keeps Tinkerbell and the Tooth Fairy alive.
--
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heh.
> In article <1j9sp7u.1sx6mvma94a4N%m...@privacy.net>,
> m...@privacy.net (Bella Jones) wrote:
>
> > Sara <sarame...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <1j9so3i.1kixzh81v4hso4N%m...@privacy.net>,
> > > m...@privacy.net (Bella Jones) wrote:
> > [...]
> > > >
> > > > Wanktards.
> > > >
> > > > > > I don't think this G4 has is automatically. My dongle is D-Link
> > > > > > DWB-120M.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have no idea if that would work, sorry.
> > > >
> > > > I was just typing it out for my own reference, and in a small rage. :-)
> > > >
> > > > > > HOw stupid. I thought no one used bluetooth any more.
> > > > >
> > > > > Apple's wireless keyboards and mice use it.
> > > >
> > > > Do people even use dongles any more? I mean, I could buy one but that is
> > > > what 20 quid on top of the mouse? Am now furtling.
> > > >
> > > > Arseflaps of doom.
> > >
> > > Arseflaps be damned! I'll bring a BT dongle or two over too.
> >
> > Oh you are a honeybun! *kiss*
>
> **simper**
I will repeat the offer justin case now that the scope of the enquiry
has widened: Do you want to try out the magicke moose with that dongle
and see whether d) it works with your machine and dongle and b) whether
you could get to like it or hate it?
--
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guitar tuition
http://www.flaviomatani.co.uk
http://fflavio.com
That's *not* a good alternative to booze, Bella.
Actually, Stain Slayer sounds like a strong (as in taste, not alcohol
level) locally brewed stout. Yum yum yum.
-zoara-
--
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> Actually, Stain Slayer sounds like a strong (as in taste, not alcohol
> level) locally brewed stout. Yum yum yum.
I had one in your neck of the woods called Hung, Drawn & Portered.
--
Pd
> Sara <sarame...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Arseflaps of doom.
> > > >
> > > > Arseflaps be damned! I'll bring a BT dongle or two over too.
> > >
> > > Oh you are a honeybun! *kiss*
> >
> > **simper**
>
> I will repeat the offer justin case now that the scope of the enquiry
> has widened: Do you want to try out the magicke moose with that dongle
> and see whether d) it works with your machine and dongle and b) whether
> you could get to like it or hate it?
oh good point i was thinking more of a lend. but actually as i haven't
decided what to do about the mouse yet - and it's 55 quid = i might hold
off. but thanks....
> Sara <sarame...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > > > Arseflaps of doom.
> > > >
> > > > Arseflaps be damned! I'll bring a BT dongle or two over too.
> > >
> > > Oh you are a honeybun! *kiss*
> >
> > **simper**
>
> I will repeat the offer justin case now that the scope of the enquiry
> has widened: Do you want to try out the magicke moose with that dongle
> and see whether d) it works with your machine and dongle and b) whether
> you could get to like it or hate it?
sorry i thought i was repling to sara! actually don't worry - i really
shouldn't be spending that now anyway
> oh good point i was thinking more of a lend. but actually as i haven't
> decided what to do about the mouse yet - and it's 55 quid = i might hold
> off. but thanks....
It'll be a bit cheaper tomorrow.
--
Chris
i didn't get the wonderousness of 'apple special shopping day' - i saw
no discounts on the email i got. was i being a tard?
Heh. A friend of mine sometimes brews his own beer, and always names
them. One of them was called "Follow Through".
Actually, if you're in the Cotswolds again, I highly recommend seeking
out beers from Uley Brewery, particularly Pig's Ear, which is a right
tasty pint:
http://www.uleybrewery.com/ales_pigs_ear.htm
No, just early. The special prices are from midnight tonight.
--
Chris
> Heh. A friend of mine sometimes brews his own beer, and always names
> them. One of them was called "Follow Through".
Um, ew. That reminds me of the Joel Veitch song "Anal Leakage".
> Actually, if you're in the Cotswolds again, I highly recommend seeking
> out beers from Uley Brewery, particularly Pig's Ear, which is a right
> tasty pint:
I shall. And I shall also impose upon you for a nice cup of tea and a
sit down.
--
Pd
But sadly, the Magic Mouse is still £55 today. Mophies (for you iPhone
chaps) are reduced.
<http://store.apple.com/uk/browse/campaigns/holiday/giftguide/black_friday>
--
Chris
> On 2009-11-26 22:05:41 +0000, Chris Ridd said:
>
> > On 2009-11-26 20:41:10 +0000, Bella Jones said:
> >
> >> Chris Ridd <chri...@mac.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 2009-11-26 20:21:40 +0000, Bella Jones said:
> >>>
> >>>> oh good point i was thinking more of a lend. but actually as i haven't
> >>>> decided what to do about the mouse yet - and it's 55 quid = i might hold
> >>>> off. but thanks....
> >>>
> >>> It'll be a bit cheaper tomorrow.
> >>
> >> i didn't get the wonderousness of 'apple special shopping day' - i saw
> >> no discounts on the email i got. was i being a tard?
> >
> > No, just early. The special prices are from midnight tonight.
>
> But sadly, the Magic Mouse is still �55 today. Mophies (for you iPhone
> chaps) are reduced.
>
> <http://store.apple.com/uk/browse/campaigns/holiday/giftguide/black_friday>
I say again Wanktards!
And on the grand scheme of special, they err.. weren't very!
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