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Alec

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Feb 15, 2013, 7:42:08 AM2/15/13
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It appears that the Mac Pro is dangerous according to the idiots at the
EU
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/379645/apple-mac-pro-too-dangerous-for-europe but
a replacement model is promised for later this year.

Richard Tobin

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Feb 15, 2013, 9:02:10 AM2/15/13
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In article <lrydnZpmK_i9sIPM...@bt.com>,
Alec <Nob...@Nowhere.com> wrote:

>It appears that the Mac Pro is dangerous according to the idiots at the
>EU

No, it appears that the idiots at Apple have not bothered to
keep up with safety regulations.

Of course, it would have been a different matter if it had been
Californian regulations.

I had an Yamaha electronic keyboard with a label "This keyboard
contains substances determined by the state of California to be
hazardous to health".

-- Richard

Ray

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Feb 15, 2013, 9:49:20 AM2/15/13
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Richard Tobin <ric...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk> wrote:

> In article <lrydnZpmK_i9sIPM...@bt.com>,
> Alec <Nob...@Nowhere.com> wrote:
>
> >It appears that the Mac Pro is dangerous according to the idiots at the
> >EU
>
> No, it appears that the idiots at Apple have not bothered to
> keep up with safety regulations.

They are keeping up, these regulations have only recently been changed.
Sales will cease at the end of this month in compliance with
regulations.

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Jaimie Vandenbergh

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Feb 15, 2013, 10:29:35 AM2/15/13
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On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 14:49:20 +0000, bugg...@outlook.com (Ray) wrote:

>Richard Tobin <ric...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> In article <lrydnZpmK_i9sIPM...@bt.com>,
>> Alec <Nob...@Nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>> >It appears that the Mac Pro is dangerous according to the idiots at the
>> >EU
>>
>> No, it appears that the idiots at Apple have not bothered to
>> keep up with safety regulations.
>
>They are keeping up, these regulations have only recently been changed.

Three years ago.

>Sales will cease at the end of this month in compliance with
>regulations.

When the three year warning is up.

This more likely ties in with Cook's email last year:

http://gizmodo.com/5917901/tim-cook-confirms-that-a-really-great-mac-pro-is-coming-next-year

and then see

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2013/02/13/tim-cook-prioritises-stability-over-surprises-with-macbook-pro-update/

Cheers - Jaimie
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JTM

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Feb 15, 2013, 11:20:08 AM2/15/13
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In article <lrydnZpmK_i9sIPM...@bt.com>, Alec
<Nob...@Nowhere.com> wrote:
> It appears that the Mac Pro is dangerous according to the
> idiots at the EU
Ahhh. So the IEC (International Electrotechnical Commission)
is now part of the EU. Has anyone told them?
> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/379645/apple-mac-pro-too-dangerous-for-europe
> but a replacement model is promised for later this year.

John

Ian McCall

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Feb 15, 2013, 11:25:13 AM2/15/13
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I'm slightly confused by the article - it says the fans are unguarded.
Surely the rather large aluminium case surrounding it all is a guard?
What has it exactly fallen foul of?


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Alec

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Feb 15, 2013, 1:30:49 PM2/15/13
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On 15/02/2013 16:20, JTM wrote:

> Ahhh. So the IEC (International Electrotechnical Commission)
> is now part of the EU. Has anyone told them?
>

Fair enough. So why is a change to regulations by an International body
apparently only affecting sales in europe?

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Warren Oates

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Feb 15, 2013, 1:44:00 PM2/15/13
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In article <lnvsh852oensehvn3...@4ax.com>,
Jaimie Vandenbergh <jai...@sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:

> On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 17:39:40 +0000, itali...@gmail.com (SteveH)
> wrote:
>
> >Ian McCall <i...@eruvia.org> wrote:
> >
> >> I'm slightly confused by the article - it says the fans are unguarded.
> >> Surely the rather large aluminium case surrounding it all is a guard?
> >> What has it exactly fallen foul of?
> >
> >The trend to legislate against everything on the assumption that
> >everyone is a fucking retard.
>
> True most of the time.
>

Certainly in Germany.
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Richard Kettlewell

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Feb 15, 2013, 4:04:52 PM2/15/13
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“The trouble with standards is that there are so many to choose from.”

It looks like the USA (for instance) has its own separate set of
regulations derived from (I think) an older version of the IEC standard
in question. Other countries might follow that instead, or have a
further competing set of regulations.

Where that’s not the case, the relevant EU directive leaves it to the
Commission to state which variants of which standards are adopted; so
non-EU countries that, broadly speaking, adopt the IEC standards might
differ on these points.

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David Kennedy

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Feb 15, 2013, 6:02:06 PM2/15/13
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On 15/02/2013 14:49, Ray wrote:
> Richard Tobin <ric...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> In article <lrydnZpmK_i9sIPM...@bt.com>,
>> Alec <Nob...@Nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It appears that the Mac Pro is dangerous according to the idiots at the
>>> EU
>>
>> No, it appears that the idiots at Apple have not bothered to
>> keep up with safety regulations.
>
> They are keeping up, these regulations have only recently been changed.
> Sales will cease at the end of this month in compliance with
> regulations.
>
AIUI the regs were known for some time before they came into force and ,
again AIUI, no other manufacturer has been affected. As was mentioned,
if they had been US regs then they would have jumped quickly enough but
sales outside of the US have always been the poor relation for Apple.

--
David Kennedy

http://www.anindianinexile.com

Ray

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Feb 16, 2013, 7:42:09 AM2/16/13
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Jaimie Vandenbergh <jai...@sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:

> On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 14:49:20 +0000, bugg...@outlook.com (Ray) wrote:
>
> >Richard Tobin <ric...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> In article <lrydnZpmK_i9sIPM...@bt.com>,
> >> Alec <Nob...@Nowhere.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >It appears that the Mac Pro is dangerous according to the idiots at the
> >> >EU
> >>
> >> No, it appears that the idiots at Apple have not bothered to
> >> keep up with safety regulations.
> >
> >They are keeping up, these regulations have only recently been changed.
>
> Three years ago.

Apologies, I did not know that.

Jaimie Vandenbergh

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Feb 16, 2013, 7:48:53 AM2/16/13
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On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 12:42:09 +0000, bugg...@outlook.com (Ray) wrote:

>Jaimie Vandenbergh <jai...@sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 14:49:20 +0000, bugg...@outlook.com (Ray) wrote:
>>
>> >Richard Tobin <ric...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk> wrote:
>> >
>> >> In article <lrydnZpmK_i9sIPM...@bt.com>,
>> >> Alec <Nob...@Nowhere.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >It appears that the Mac Pro is dangerous according to the idiots at the
>> >> >EU
>> >>
>> >> No, it appears that the idiots at Apple have not bothered to
>> >> keep up with safety regulations.
>> >
>> >They are keeping up, these regulations have only recently been changed.
>>
>> Three years ago.
>
>Apologies, I did not know that.

No reason why you should. Apple, OTOH, may be using it as an excuse to
gauge the interest - or objections - when they stop selling the Mac
Pro over here in the Old World!

As I understand it there's only a little afterbuild mod needs to be
made to get it compliant, anyway.

Cheers - Jaimie
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J. J. Lodder J. J. Lodder

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Feb 17, 2013, 10:03:59 AM2/17/13
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Spoken like a true Brit.
Whatever it is, it's the idiots in Brussels that did it,

Jan

J. J. Lodder J. J. Lodder

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Feb 17, 2013, 10:03:59 AM2/17/13
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That's entirely standard.
California made a stupid local law.
In response almost all products sold there carry the label,
whatever is in it.

It means nothing,
and everyone in the know ignores it,

Jan
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