El Reg has supposed video of iSlate
Ian Piper
Probably bogus, but looks convincing and behaves the way you might expect.
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Flavio Matani
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/11/apple_tablet_video/
>
> Probably bogus, but looks convincing and behaves the way you might expect.
>
All the Mac sites have that video. I personally think it is a fake but
a beautiful one.
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> All the Mac sites have that video. I personally think it is a fake but
> a beautiful one.
Agreed - it would be a thing of beauty if true.
What about the size of the screen and easy potential for damage, though?
I am paranoid about damaging my iPhone screen - carrying one that size
around without a laptop 'lid' on it is surely asking for trouble?
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> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/11/apple_tablet_video/
>
> Probably bogus, but looks convincing and behaves the way you might expect.
Not French at all, on-screen prices in UK Lb,
Jan
Woody
> Flavio Matani <flavio_matani...@mac.com> wrote:
>
> > All the Mac sites have that video. I personally think it is a fake but
> > a beautiful one.
>
> Agreed - it would be a thing of beauty if true.
>
> What about the size of the screen and easy potential for damage, though?
> I am paranoid about damaging my iPhone screen - carrying one that size
> around without a laptop 'lid' on it is surely asking for trouble?
I have had a tablet PC for a long time and never had any problem with
the screen on it.
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Ian Piper
> Flavio Matani <flavio_matani...@mac.com> wrote:
>
>> All the Mac sites have that video. I personally think it is a fake but
>> a beautiful one.
>
> Agreed - it would be a thing of beauty if true.
>
> What about the size of the screen and easy potential for damage, though?
> I am paranoid about damaging my iPhone screen - carrying one that size
> around without a laptop 'lid' on it is surely asking for trouble?
>
> Deb.
Well, an opportunity for case and sleeve makers surely, just like with
the iTouch/iPhone.
D.M. Procida
> What about the size of the screen and easy potential for damage, though?
> I am paranoid about damaging my iPhone screen - carrying one that size
> around without a laptop 'lid' on it is surely asking for trouble?
How are you likely to damage your iPhone screen, unless you do something
to it that would risk breaking the wole iPhone anyway?
Daniele
Jaimie Vandenbergh
Accidentally?
I learnt to carry my phones with the screen facing my body some years
ago, after walking into a door handle and shattering the face of the
Nokia I then used. It wasn't enough damage to disable the phone, and
the screen was broken in such a way that the device was still somewhat
usable.
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Woody
> On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:35:51 +0000,
> real-not-anti...@apple-juice.co.uk (D.M. Procida) wrote:
>
> >Debbie Wilson <djma...@mac.com> wrote:
> >
> >> What about the size of the screen and easy potential for damage, though?
> >> I am paranoid about damaging my iPhone screen - carrying one that size
> >> around without a laptop 'lid' on it is surely asking for trouble?
> >
> >How are you likely to damage your iPhone screen, unless you do something
> >to it that would risk breaking the wole iPhone anyway?
>
> Accidentally?
>
> I learnt to carry my phones with the screen facing my body some years
> ago, after walking into a door handle and shattering the face of the
> Nokia I then used. It wasn't enough damage to disable the phone, and
> the screen was broken in such a way that the device was still somewhat
> usable.
My daughter broke her iPhone screen. Mind you, she does tend to
accidently throw things when talking.
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Debbie Wilson
> How are you likely to damage your iPhone screen, unless you do something
> to it that would risk breaking the wole iPhone anyway?
Accidentally scratching it with a ring, dropping it onto something with
sharp corners or a hard metal object, chipping it, splashing coffee into
it etc. Knowing my luck I would drop it onto the corner of my 30" screen
and break both at once. I am remarkably clumsy and therefore paranoid
about these things. I keep it in a case even when it's in its dock...
D.M. Procida
Actually having expressed surprise, I remember that I broke the screen
on a mobile phone once. I put down a cordless drill, which neatly tipped
over forwards and through the screen of the phone.
But the iPhone screen is glass, not plastic. I think you'd have to try
quite hard to break it.
Daniele
D.M. Procida
> > How are you likely to damage your iPhone screen, unless you do something
> > to it that would risk breaking the wole iPhone anyway?
>
> Accidentally scratching it with a ring, dropping it onto something with
> sharp corners or a hard metal object, chipping it, splashing coffee into
> it etc. Knowing my luck I would drop it onto the corner of my 30" screen
> and break both at once. I am remarkably clumsy and therefore paranoid
> about these things. I keep it in a case even when it's in its dock...
It's glass! You'll really have to try hard to scratch it. A diamond ring
will do the trick, of course, so obviously don't have them loose in your
pocket or handbag with your phone.
One of my colleagues has an iPhone, with a little plastic film over the
screen to protect it from scratches, so I picked up a bunch of keys and
viciously scraped them across the screen of my iMac to demonstrate
relative hardnesses.
Daniele
Woody
She just dropped it on a pavement from holding it at normal hand height.
And she is quite short.
I broke the glass on my nokia e73 droping it on the corner of a door
frame. Luckily it was just the outer glass which didn't affect its
operation.
Having said that, I have also dropped my TC1100 which has a 10.4" screen
covered in glass, glass side down on the floor and it didn't damage it.
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Woody
As much as I hate scratches on things, I can't stand having a plastic
film over a screen, it invariably stops the screen from responding how
it should (I guess not on the iPhone case, but most passive screens
yes). I have never got a screen so scratched that its use was more
impared than it would be by having a plastic screen over it.
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Jaimie Vandenbergh
I'm not about to try the experiment, but I suspect 16 stone of my
personal inertia as I walk into yet another doorknob with my trouser
pocket containing an iPhone facing screen-outward would do the job.
It's only a mm of glass, it's not adamantium.
Merely putting a nasty scratch in the phone would be even more
annoying, because it wouldn't necessarily force replacement.
Pocketable electronics are delicate devices. Devices like that
depicted in the iSlate video even more so.
Cheers - Jaimie
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> Pocketable electronics are delicate devices.
Only because the makers wish them to be easily broken, necessitating
replacement purchases.
It's perfectly practical to make the stuff a lot more robust - although
I'll admit that it might be hard to come up with a phone that's both
robust and attractive to the average 13 year old consumer.
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D.M. Procida
> Jaimie Vandenbergh <jai...@sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > Pocketable electronics are delicate devices.
>
> Only because the makers wish them to be easily broken, necessitating
> replacement purchases.
>
> It's perfectly practical to make the stuff a lot more robust - although
> I'll admit that it might be hard to come up with a phone that's both
> robust and attractive to the average 13 year old consumer.
Or readily pocketable and/or affordable. I expect they could hew iPhones
out of solid aluminium cases, but it would be a terribly expensive
endeavour.
Daniele
Jaimie Vandenbergh
1mm metal case and 3mm glass on the front would be sufficiently
unbreakable (still scratchable by your carborundums and diamonds), but
that'd add about 30% to the size and probably double the weight of the
device. Not sexy.
Cheers - Jaimie
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D.M. Procida
> >Or readily pocketable and/or affordable. I expect they could hew iPhones
> >out of solid aluminium cases, but it would be a terribly expensive
> >endeavour.
>
> 1mm metal case and 3mm glass on the front would be sufficiently
> unbreakable (still scratchable by your carborundums and diamonds), but
> that'd add about 30% to the size and probably double the weight of the
> device. Not sexy.
But you could bludgeon your enemies to death with it. Tr�s cool.
Daniele
Jaimie Vandenbergh
That's true - I always said my Nokia E90 was a great tool for fending
off muggers. Good sturdy metal construction.
Cheers - Jaimie
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SteveH
> >But you could bludgeon your enemies to death with it. Tr�s cool.
>
> That's true - I always said my Nokia E90 was a great tool for fending
> off muggers. Good sturdy metal construction.
I see your E90 and raise you an Ericsson SH888.
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Jaimie Vandenbergh
wrote:
My first mobile was a very closely related beast! Very sturdy. But the
aluminium E90 will take an edge if you hone it.
Cheers - Jaimie
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D.M. Procida
> >I see your E90 and raise you an Ericsson SH888.
>
> My first mobile was a very closely related beast! Very sturdy. But the
> aluminium E90 will take an edge if you hone it.
I think a combination of weight, razor-sharp edges and good balance in
the hand are what are required to turn a mobile phone into a first-class
fighting instrument.
Of course, as I said, one can bludgeon an enemy, but merely beating
people with a heavy object is not a classy way of killing someone.
Daniele
Peter Ceresole
> I think a combination of weight, razor-sharp edges and good balance in
> the hand are what are required to turn a mobile phone into a first-class
> fighting instrument.
Clearly a perfect 21C equivalent of the razor blades sewn into the peak
of a flat cap, from the mid 20C.
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Rowland McDonnell
> Rowland McDonnell <real-addr...@flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Jaimie Vandenbergh <jai...@sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > > Pocketable electronics are delicate devices.
> >
> > Only because the makers wish them to be easily broken, necessitating
> > replacement purchases.
> >
> > It's perfectly practical to make the stuff a lot more robust - although
> > I'll admit that it might be hard to come up with a phone that's both
> > robust and attractive to the average 13 year old consumer.
>
> Or readily pocketable and/or affordable.
Readily pocketable is easy enough - and what makes you think they'd be
unaffordable?
> I expect they could hew iPhones
> out of solid aluminium cases, but it would be a terribly expensive
> endeavour.
What, compared to the prices of some of the fancier mobile phones out
there? I suspect not. Aluminium isn't that expensive - we're not
living in the late 19th century, you know. But why machine down solid
aluminium billet if you're making anything other than aerospace parts or
similar?
I don't think it'd be terribly useful if you want something very robust
on the scale of a mobile phone. Steel beats aluminium if you want
something that'll take a severe pasting - well, in my experience,
anyway.
An injection moulded polymer case filled with polymer potted electronics
can take a hell of a battering - and it's cheap.
I've seen site electrician's gear made that way that's admittedly
marginally chunkier than the lab equivalent kit - but you can chuck it
in the back of a Transit from 20 feet away and it'll not bat an eyelid.
*AND* that was 15 years ago.
Think what's needed: you need to ensure that none of the guts of a mobe
get over-accelerated. The components are all of them tiny and very
light and very robust - with the exception of the screen and battery and
aerial. Tiny and light means not much bothered by shock.
Screens are fairly easy to deal with: just use a smaller-than-usual
screen for the size of phone, and use the `wasted space' for shock
suppression. Short of screwing the battery leads in place, I can't see
a practical way of making sure that doesn't suffer occasional
disconnects. And yes, while a fairly tough front cover can be placed
over the screen, that'll always be a weak spot. The aerial *is* bolted
(well, screwed) in place and is a lot cleverer than it looks from the
outside but nevertheless doesn't give a monkey's about the sort of
shocks that the rest of the mobe can survive.
Rowland McDonnell
> real-not-anti...@apple-juice.co.uk (D.M. Procida) wrote:
>
> >Rowland McDonnell <real-addr...@flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> Jaimie Vandenbergh <jai...@sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> [snip]
> >>
> >> > Pocketable electronics are delicate devices.
> >>
> >> Only because the makers wish them to be easily broken, necessitating
> >> replacement purchases.
> >>
> >> It's perfectly practical to make the stuff a lot more robust - although
> >> I'll admit that it might be hard to come up with a phone that's both
> >> robust and attractive to the average 13 year old consumer.
> >
> >Or readily pocketable and/or affordable. I expect they could hew iPhones
> >out of solid aluminium cases, but it would be a terribly expensive
> >endeavour.
>
> 1mm metal case and 3mm glass on the front would be sufficiently
> unbreakable (still scratchable by your carborundums and diamonds), but
> that'd add about 30% to the size
Eh? Why think that'd result in *ANY* size increase? I see no reason.
> and probably double the weight of the
> device.
Definitely less than that.