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Vince Coen
Oct 23, 2012, 6:31:45 PM10/23/12
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Hello All!
Can any one help me?
I have been using Linux for 10+ years but this is doing my head in (must be
because I have retired) !!
I'm running Mandriva 2011.0 x64 as a Kde env. on my main system box and
Ubuntu 11.x (without unity) as a Gnome env. on a laptop as well as a media
box running mythtv both as 32 bit systems.
I have bought a Wacom bamboo Fun Pen & Touch Medium with the wireless add
on (connected both ways) but despite sourceforge website for Wacom's Linux
drivers saying to use the distros software builds etc, I cannot get any
response whatsoever on any box.
I must point out there seems to be a very little amount of driver control
code available for any and it does not seem to match what is available on
sourceforge.
I accept that Mandriva is more or less a dead project but cannot upgrade to
anything else with out a high risk of it breaking the box that is used 24/7
and I can not afford to be without it beyond the time a system upgrade
takes eg, 1 - 2 hours as that can be done at silly o'clock in the morning.
Has anyone got a Wacom tablet to work under linux and if so what distro and
what is required.
Vince
Can any one help me?
I have been using Linux for 10+ years but this is doing my head in (must be
because I have retired) !!
I'm running Mandriva 2011.0 x64 as a Kde env. on my main system box and
Ubuntu 11.x (without unity) as a Gnome env. on a laptop as well as a media
box running mythtv both as 32 bit systems.
I have bought a Wacom bamboo Fun Pen & Touch Medium with the wireless add
on (connected both ways) but despite sourceforge website for Wacom's Linux
drivers saying to use the distros software builds etc, I cannot get any
response whatsoever on any box.
I must point out there seems to be a very little amount of driver control
code available for any and it does not seem to match what is available on
sourceforge.
I accept that Mandriva is more or less a dead project but cannot upgrade to
anything else with out a high risk of it breaking the box that is used 24/7
and I can not afford to be without it beyond the time a system upgrade
takes eg, 1 - 2 hours as that can be done at silly o'clock in the morning.
Has anyone got a Wacom tablet to work under linux and if so what distro and
what is required.
Vince
Jim Price
Oct 23, 2012, 8:05:21 PM10/23/12
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On 23/10/12 23:31, Vince Coen wrote:
> Hello All!
>
> Can any one help me?
>
> I have been using Linux for 10+ years but this is doing my head in (must be
> because I have retired) !!
>
> I'm running Mandriva 2011.0 x64 as a Kde env. on my main system box and
> Ubuntu 11.x (without unity) as a Gnome env. on a laptop as well as a media
> box running mythtv both as 32 bit systems.
>
> I have bought a Wacom bamboo Fun Pen & Touch Medium with the wireless add
> on (connected both ways) but despite sourceforge website for Wacom's Linux
> drivers saying to use the distros software builds etc, I cannot get any
> response whatsoever on any box.
Is the connection at the PC end USB? Can you see it with lsusb? The USB
> Hello All!
>
> Can any one help me?
>
> I have been using Linux for 10+ years but this is doing my head in (must be
> because I have retired) !!
>
> I'm running Mandriva 2011.0 x64 as a Kde env. on my main system box and
> Ubuntu 11.x (without unity) as a Gnome env. on a laptop as well as a media
> box running mythtv both as 32 bit systems.
>
> I have bought a Wacom bamboo Fun Pen & Touch Medium with the wireless add
> on (connected both ways) but despite sourceforge website for Wacom's Linux
> drivers saying to use the distros software builds etc, I cannot get any
> response whatsoever on any box.
ID is usually a good starting point for basic comms issues.
> I must point out there seems to be a very little amount of driver control
> code available for any and it does not seem to match what is available on
> sourceforge.
>
> I accept that Mandriva is more or less a dead project but cannot upgrade to
> anything else with out a high risk of it breaking the box that is used 24/7
> and I can not afford to be without it beyond the time a system upgrade
> takes eg, 1 - 2 hours as that can be done at silly o'clock in the morning.
to a different distro. Mythbuntu is pretty quick to set up though, and I
think I did my Myth box upgrade (really an in-place replacement) in only
a few hours of actual down time. I wanted a serious clearout of the
files Myth had accumulated, so I exported all the recordings I wanted to
keep and imported them into the new install. I think it was worth it, as
it used 1.3 gig less space on the new install.
> Has anyone got a Wacom tablet to work under linux and if so what distro and
> what is required.
coincidentally just started to set it up on Ubuntu 12.04 (running
Enlightenment, not Unity). It makes use of libwacom and some custom
config. This should give you an outline of what is required to set up a
Wacom tablet in Ubuntu:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom
It's not quite up to date though. I've got mine working, but not
properly calibrated yet. It looks like a Wacom would be easier, but
probably more than a tenner.
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unruh
Oct 23, 2012, 8:20:32 PM10/23/12
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connection. It did not have wireless (bluetooth do you mean?)
Mageia is the Mandriva carryon. Ie, Mageia 1 was Mandriva 2010.1
essentially, It is up to Mageia 3 beta by now.
Carve out a separate partition to install the Mageia 2 on. That way you
will have the other to fall back to if something breaks. Note that the
bootup process has changed.
>
>
>
> Vince
>
>
Chris Davies
Oct 24, 2012, 6:48:03 AM10/24/12
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Vince Coen <VBC...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Has anyone got a Wacom tablet to work under linux and if so what distro
> and what is required.
I'm running a Bamboo under Debian "nearly-stable-ish".
> Has anyone got a Wacom tablet to work under linux and if so what distro
> and what is required.
Bus 001 Device 009: ID 056a:0065 Wacom Co., Ltd Bamboo
When I first got it, a couple of years ago, it insisted on mapping both my
screens to the drawing area, which made drawing any sort of detail very
tricky. Gimp was/is the only app that really understands the Bamboo,
and it works well with identifying the two ends of the pen and being
driven via pressure.
The most recent upgrade to the xorg subsystem allowed me to define a
drawing area for which the pad is to be constrained - so I've now got it
mapped to my primary screen. This makes using it *so* much easier. (This
is done by defining a "coordinate transform matrix" with xinput. Not easy,
but straightforward enough when following the HOWTO at
http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/linuxwacom/index.php?title=Dual_and_Multi-Monitor_Set_Up)
The downloads from sourceforge haven't worked for me at all: neither
the drivers nor the utilities. But that may be because I'm also running
the proprietary NVidia driver. Or it may be because the system is too
Debianised and I haven't found all the interdependencies (more likely!).
In terms of practical advice, I can tell you the Debian versions of the
packages in my current installation, but I don't know how helpful that
will be in your situation (different distro, etc.):
xserver-xorg 1:7.5+8+squeeze1
xserver-xorg-core 2:1.10.4-1~bpo60+1
xserver-xorg-input-all 1:7.5+8+squeeze1
xserver-xorg-input-evdev 1:2.6.0-2~bpo60+1
xserver-xorg-input-synaptics 1.4.1-1~bpo60+1
>> xserver-xorg-input-wacom 0.10.10+20110203-1~bpo60+1
xserver-xorg-video-all 1:7.7+1
xserver-xorg-video-apm 1:1.2.3-2~bpo60+1
xserver-xorg-video-fbdev 1:0.4.2-4~bpo60+1
xserver-xorg-video-nouveau 1:0.0.16+git20110411+8378443-1~bpo60+1
xserver-xorg-video-nvidia 295.59-1~bpo60+2
xserver-xorg-video-vesa 1:2.3.0-7~bpo60+1
xinput 1.5.2-1
Good luck,
Chris
Vince Coen
Oct 24, 2012, 9:37:11 AM10/24/12
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Hello Jim!
24 Oct 12 01:05, Jim Price wrote to All:
>>
>> I have bought a Wacom bamboo Fun Pen & Touch Medium with the
>> wireless add on (connected both ways) but despite sourceforge
>> website for Wacom's Linux drivers saying to use the distros software
>> builds etc, I cannot get any response whatsoever on any box.
> Is the connection at the PC end USB? Can you see it with lsusb? The
> USB ID is usually a good starting point for basic comms issues.
This is what I get from sudo lsusb
-------------------------------
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 056a:0084 Wacom Co., Ltd
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 046d:c52b Logitech, Inc. Unifying Receiver
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 007 Device 006: ID 056a:00df Wacom Co., Ltd
Bus 008 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 008 Device 002: ID 0bda:0301 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
Bus 008 Device 003: ID 0bc2:0503 Seagate RSS LLC
-------------------------------
There is two lines for it and I am guessing that one is for the wired USB
connection and the other for the USB wireless receiver but I would not like
to put money on it !
>> I accept that Mandriva is more or less a dead project but cannot
>> upgrade to anything else with out a high risk of it breaking the box
>> that is used 24/7 and I can not afford to be without it beyond the
>> time a system upgrade takes eg, 1 - 2 hours as that can be done at
>> silly o'clock in the morning.
Mythbuntu is only running on my media box and the reason it has not been
upgraded to v12.04 is that it was a pain to remove unity and just have
gnome in use so have been putting it off as I have forgotten what I did!
> Crumbs. What's on there? I suppose MythTV might take a while to
> migrate to a different distro. Mythbuntu is pretty quick to set up
> though, and I think I did my Myth box upgrade (really an in-place
> replacement) in only a few hours of actual down time. I wanted a
> serious clearout of the files Myth had accumulated, so I exported all
> the recordings I wanted to keep and imported them into the new
> install. I think it was worth it, as it used 1.3 gig less space on the
> new install.
>> Has anyone got a Wacom tablet to work under linux and if so what
>> distro and what is required.
> I've got a Waltop tablet, which I got cheap at Aldi a while ago, and
> coincidentally just started to set it up on Ubuntu 12.04 (running
> Enlightenment, not Unity). It makes use of libwacom and some custom
> config. This should give you an outline of what is required to set up
> a Wacom tablet in Ubuntu:
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom
> It's not quite up to date though. I've got mine working, but not
> properly calibrated yet. It looks like a Wacom would be easier, but
> probably more than a tenner.
Thats for that, having a look at it for v11.10 mythbuntu and for the laptop
that is running ubuntu (Gnome) v11.10 as well but without mythtv.
Vince
24 Oct 12 01:05, Jim Price wrote to All:
>>
>> I have bought a Wacom bamboo Fun Pen & Touch Medium with the
>> wireless add on (connected both ways) but despite sourceforge
>> website for Wacom's Linux drivers saying to use the distros software
>> builds etc, I cannot get any response whatsoever on any box.
> Is the connection at the PC end USB? Can you see it with lsusb? The
> USB ID is usually a good starting point for basic comms issues.
-------------------------------
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 056a:0084 Wacom Co., Ltd
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 046d:c52b Logitech, Inc. Unifying Receiver
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 007 Device 006: ID 056a:00df Wacom Co., Ltd
Bus 008 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 008 Device 002: ID 0bda:0301 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
Bus 008 Device 003: ID 0bc2:0503 Seagate RSS LLC
-------------------------------
There is two lines for it and I am guessing that one is for the wired USB
connection and the other for the USB wireless receiver but I would not like
to put money on it !
>> I accept that Mandriva is more or less a dead project but cannot
>> upgrade to anything else with out a high risk of it breaking the box
>> that is used 24/7 and I can not afford to be without it beyond the
>> time a system upgrade takes eg, 1 - 2 hours as that can be done at
>> silly o'clock in the morning.
upgraded to v12.04 is that it was a pain to remove unity and just have
gnome in use so have been putting it off as I have forgotten what I did!
> Crumbs. What's on there? I suppose MythTV might take a while to
> migrate to a different distro. Mythbuntu is pretty quick to set up
> though, and I think I did my Myth box upgrade (really an in-place
> replacement) in only a few hours of actual down time. I wanted a
> serious clearout of the files Myth had accumulated, so I exported all
> the recordings I wanted to keep and imported them into the new
> install. I think it was worth it, as it used 1.3 gig less space on the
> new install.
>> Has anyone got a Wacom tablet to work under linux and if so what
>> distro and what is required.
> I've got a Waltop tablet, which I got cheap at Aldi a while ago, and
> coincidentally just started to set it up on Ubuntu 12.04 (running
> Enlightenment, not Unity). It makes use of libwacom and some custom
> config. This should give you an outline of what is required to set up
> a Wacom tablet in Ubuntu:
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom
> It's not quite up to date though. I've got mine working, but not
> properly calibrated yet. It looks like a Wacom would be easier, but
> probably more than a tenner.
that is running ubuntu (Gnome) v11.10 as well but without mythtv.
Vince
Vince Coen
Oct 24, 2012, 9:43:41 AM10/24/12
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Hello unruh!
24 Oct 12 01:20, unruh wrote to All:
>> Has anyone got a Wacom tablet to work under linux and if so what
>> distro and what is required.
> Yes. Mandrive 2009 I think is the last I tested it on. Using the usb
> connection. It did not have wireless (bluetooth do you mean?)
Nope it uses a unified receiver at 2.4Gh wireless set up. Similar to
Logitech keyboard (K750) and mouse (M325) but not the same as the tablet
can't make use of the logitech receiver put has to use the Wacom one.
Trust Wacom to be awkward but it could be a performance issue !
> Mageia is the Mandriva carryon. Ie, Mageia 1 was Mandriva 2010.1
> essentially, It is up to Mageia 3 beta by now.
> Carve out a separate partition to install the Mageia 2 on. That way
> you will have the other to fall back to if something breaks. Note that
> the bootup process has changed.
That may well be the way I will test it along with another partition with
Mandriva 2011.0 on and see what happens if I try and upgrade it to Megeia.
Thanks for the help.
Vince
24 Oct 12 01:20, unruh wrote to All:
>> Has anyone got a Wacom tablet to work under linux and if so what
>> distro and what is required.
> Yes. Mandrive 2009 I think is the last I tested it on. Using the usb
> connection. It did not have wireless (bluetooth do you mean?)
Logitech keyboard (K750) and mouse (M325) but not the same as the tablet
can't make use of the logitech receiver put has to use the Wacom one.
Trust Wacom to be awkward but it could be a performance issue !
> Mageia is the Mandriva carryon. Ie, Mageia 1 was Mandriva 2010.1
> essentially, It is up to Mageia 3 beta by now.
> Carve out a separate partition to install the Mageia 2 on. That way
> you will have the other to fall back to if something breaks. Note that
> the bootup process has changed.
Mandriva 2011.0 on and see what happens if I try and upgrade it to Megeia.
Thanks for the help.
Vince
Jim Price
Oct 24, 2012, 11:15:34 AM10/24/12
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On 24/10/12 14:37, Vince Coen wrote:
> 24 Oct 12 01:05, Jim Price wrote to All:
>
> 24 Oct 12 01:05, Jim Price wrote to All:
>
>> Is the connection at the PC end USB? Can you see it with lsusb? The
>> USB ID is usually a good starting point for basic comms issues.
>
> This is what I get from sudo lsusb
~
>> USB ID is usually a good starting point for basic comms issues.
>
> This is what I get from sudo lsusb
> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 056a:0084 Wacom Co., Ltd
~
> Bus 007 Device 006: ID 056a:00df Wacom Co., Ltd
> There is two lines for it and I am guessing that one is for the wired USB
> connection and the other for the USB wireless receiver but I would not like
> to put money on it !
Those IDs are a bit too new to have made it to the USB device database
> connection and the other for the USB wireless receiver but I would not like
> to put money on it !
yet, but useful for searches.
> Mythbuntu is only running on my media box and the reason it has not been
> upgraded to v12.04 is that it was a pain to remove unity and just have
> gnome in use so have been putting it off as I have forgotten what I did!
machine with a different desktop on it, as it isn't messed around with
as much as others - it's not trying to be a desktop. Install MATE on top
of it and you pretty much have traditional Gnome2 style Ubuntu.
Installing MATE is only 5 lines to type at the command line, then log
out and select MATE to log back in with.
>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom
>
>> It's not quite up to date though. I've got mine working, but not
>> properly calibrated yet. It looks like a Wacom would be easier, but
>> probably more than a tenner.
>
> Thats for that, having a look at it for v11.10 mythbuntu and for the laptop
> that is running ubuntu (Gnome) v11.10 as well but without mythtv.
tablet built into the kernel:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xf86-input-wacom/+bug/956052
Is there any reason why you're looking at Mythbuntu 11.10 instead of
12.04? It's going to be end of life in six months time.
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Dave Farrance
Oct 24, 2012, 5:19:51 PM10/24/12
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"Vince Coen" <VBC...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Has anyone got a Wacom tablet to work under linux and if so what distro and
>what is required.
Yes. My Wacom Graphire 4 works with the default install of Kubuntu 12.x,
>Has anyone got a Wacom tablet to work under linux and if so what distro and
>what is required.
Only the Gimp required configuration to activate the variable pressure
sensitivity.
Vince Coen
Oct 28, 2012, 6:33:59 PM10/28/12
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Hello Jim!
24 Oct 12 16:15, Jim Price wrote to All:
> Mythbuntu 12.04 uses XFCE, not Unity. I use it when I want to build a
> machine with a different desktop on it, as it isn't messed around with
> as much as others - it's not trying to be a desktop. Install MATE on
> top of it and you pretty much have traditional Gnome2 style Ubuntu.
> Installing MATE is only 5 lines to type at the command line, then log
> out and select MATE to log back in with.
>>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom
Have now updated my laptop running Ubuntu with Gnome which worked well
without removing or changing the desktop and on top added a banch of
new photo tools so some new stuff to play with although the speed of the
laptop (C 900) does mean I will have to be patient waiting for it to do
something.
So with that success I have also upgraded Mythbuntu as well and that looks
ok aprt from the upper screen showing the menu line and ditto with the
bottom one staying on screen when watching anything within mythtv.
Have totally forgotten how to change it so that it disappears when cursor
is not at those points.
>>> It's not quite up to date though. I've got mine working, but not
>>> properly calibrated yet. It looks like a Wacom would be easier, but
>>> probably more than a tenner.
12.04 seems to work with the Wacom tablet but does not always and sometimes
is sluggish. May be some settings need changing somewhere!!
> This suggests that current Ubuntu 12.04 should have support for your
> tablet built into the kernel:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xf86-input-wacom/+bug/956052
Going to look at that ..
> Is there any reason why you're looking at Mythbuntu 11.10 instead of
> 12.04? It's going to be end of life in six months time.
Yep, that the reason for upgrading but I will try and stick with that as
its a LTS version.
Now to clean up the problems and decide what to do with my main
desktop system running Mandriva 2011.0 PWP that runs Mysql, apache, ftp and
a bbs.
That will be a lot more problematic.
Vince
24 Oct 12 16:15, Jim Price wrote to All:
> Mythbuntu 12.04 uses XFCE, not Unity. I use it when I want to build a
> machine with a different desktop on it, as it isn't messed around with
> as much as others - it's not trying to be a desktop. Install MATE on
> top of it and you pretty much have traditional Gnome2 style Ubuntu.
> Installing MATE is only 5 lines to type at the command line, then log
> out and select MATE to log back in with.
>>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom
without removing or changing the desktop and on top added a banch of
new photo tools so some new stuff to play with although the speed of the
laptop (C 900) does mean I will have to be patient waiting for it to do
something.
So with that success I have also upgraded Mythbuntu as well and that looks
ok aprt from the upper screen showing the menu line and ditto with the
bottom one staying on screen when watching anything within mythtv.
Have totally forgotten how to change it so that it disappears when cursor
is not at those points.
>>> It's not quite up to date though. I've got mine working, but not
>>> properly calibrated yet. It looks like a Wacom would be easier, but
>>> probably more than a tenner.
is sluggish. May be some settings need changing somewhere!!
> This suggests that current Ubuntu 12.04 should have support for your
> tablet built into the kernel:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xf86-input-wacom/+bug/956052
> Is there any reason why you're looking at Mythbuntu 11.10 instead of
> 12.04? It's going to be end of life in six months time.
its a LTS version.
Now to clean up the problems and decide what to do with my main
desktop system running Mandriva 2011.0 PWP that runs Mysql, apache, ftp and
a bbs.
That will be a lot more problematic.
Vince
Jim Price
Oct 29, 2012, 7:57:17 AM10/29/12
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On 28/10/12 22:33, Vince Coen wrote:
> 24 Oct 12 16:15, Jim Price wrote to All:
[Mythbuntu XFCE panel]
> 24 Oct 12 16:15, Jim Price wrote to All:
> Have totally forgotten how to change it so that it disappears when cursor
> is not at those points.
Right click on a blank area of the panel, select properties, and it
> is not at those points.
should be called autohide.
> 12.04 seems to work with the Wacom tablet but does not always and sometimes
> is sluggish. May be some settings need changing somewhere!!
just a need to do calibration. That's not a problem I've any experience
of, as yet.
--
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Vince Coen
Oct 30, 2012, 12:57:54 PM10/30/12
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Hello Jim!
29 Oct 12 11:57, Jim Price wrote to All:
> [Mythbuntu XFCE panel]
>> Have totally forgotten how to change it so that it disappears when
>> cursor is not at those points.
> Right click on a blank area of the panel, select properties, and it
> should be called autohide.
Hmm, think I looked there but got no response from a right click but will
try again in the next 30 mins just in case I was more asleep than awake.
>> 12.04 seems to work with the Wacom tablet but does not always and
>> sometimes is sluggish. May be some settings need changing
>> somewhere!!
> Intermittent operation sounds more like some sort of problem rather
> than just a need to do calibration. That's not a problem I've any
> experience of, as yet.
Well it is early days playing with it and it is on a slow laptop running
Celleron 900, hardly a quick CPU !!
Vince
29 Oct 12 11:57, Jim Price wrote to All:
> [Mythbuntu XFCE panel]
>> Have totally forgotten how to change it so that it disappears when
>> cursor is not at those points.
> Right click on a blank area of the panel, select properties, and it
> should be called autohide.
try again in the next 30 mins just in case I was more asleep than awake.
>> 12.04 seems to work with the Wacom tablet but does not always and
>> sometimes is sluggish. May be some settings need changing
>> somewhere!!
> Intermittent operation sounds more like some sort of problem rather
> than just a need to do calibration. That's not a problem I've any
> experience of, as yet.
Celleron 900, hardly a quick CPU !!
Vince
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