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abcareno1

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Nov 16, 2009, 6:17:07 AM11/16/09
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Making Your Small Business Look Big
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Steve Firth

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Nov 16, 2009, 7:57:07 AM11/16/09
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abcareno1 <smartst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Making Your Small Business Look Big

Binoculars work well. I suspect that if you want to make your private
parts look big that you use a microscope.

Tim Lamb

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Nov 16, 2009, 4:44:36 PM11/16/09
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In message <1j99y39.j1udorguj4qnN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth
<%steve%@malloc.co.uk> writes

I carry my reading glasses on a neck cord.

This can lead to toilet targeting issues and self delusion.

regards
>

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Tim Lamb

Buddenbrooks

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Nov 16, 2009, 5:12:34 PM11/16/09
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"Tim Lamb" <t...@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> I carry my reading glasses on a neck cord.
>
> This can lead to toilet targeting issues and self delusion.
>

Generally by your age you should be able to locate and manipulate body
parts without looking :)

Old Codger

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Nov 16, 2009, 5:25:39 PM11/16/09
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:-)

Reminds me of when I got my first bifocals. Was in the loo with an
older colleague from Newcastle. He said "When I first got mine I looked
down, saw a big one and a little one, grabbed the big one and peed all
down my trousers.

--
Old Codger
e-mail use reply to field

What matters in politics is not what happens, but what you can make
people believe has happened. [Janet Daley 27/8/2003]

Michelle Masters

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Nov 20, 2009, 5:33:14 PM11/20/09
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Old Codger wrote:
> Tim Lamb wrote:
>> In message <1j99y39.j1udorguj4qnN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth
>> <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> writes
>>> abcareno1 <smartst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Making Your Small Business Look Big
>>>
>>> Binoculars work well. I suspect that if you want to make your private
>>> parts look big that you use a microscope.
>>
>> I carry my reading glasses on a neck cord.
>>
>> This can lead to toilet targeting issues and self delusion.
>
> :-)
>
> Reminds me of when I got my first bifocals. Was in the loo with an
> older colleague from Newcastle. He said "When I first got mine I looked
> down, saw a big one and a little one, grabbed the big one and peed all
> down my trousers.
>
Oh my goodness!!! Couldn't believe what I was reading when I saw this
thread. Got a lot of good laughs out of it, though :-) I love you guys!

Hope all is well with the ukba lot!! Life is good!

M

Old Codger

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Nov 20, 2009, 6:42:54 PM11/20/09
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Hi Michelle!

Pleased you are finding life is good, I am of like mind. :-)

Tim Lamb

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Nov 21, 2009, 3:27:49 AM11/21/09
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In message <QOednfpPlOSphJrW...@giganews.com>, Michelle
Masters <nu...@nowhere.com> writes

Hi Michelle.

Lavatory humour flows.

Broad band seems to have dispersed us to forums etc.

I wonder if Jim ever got connected? I'll bet his wellies are in use at
the moment. Cumbria is recovering from 12" of rain! Didn't Texas get a
bit recently?

regards
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Tim Lamb

lynz

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Nov 21, 2009, 3:50:57 AM11/21/09
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Hi from over here as well. Hoping for some rain soon. Hope Jim didnt get
washed away.
L

Derek Moody

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Nov 21, 2009, 2:56:32 PM11/21/09
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In article <k89$FDDFS6...@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk>, Tim Lamb

<URL:mailto:t...@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <QOednfpPlOSphJrW...@giganews.com>, Michelle
> Masters <nu...@nowhere.com> writes

> >Oh my goodness!!! Couldn't believe what I was reading when I saw this

> >thread. Got a lot of good laughs out of it, though :-) I love you
> >guys!
> >
> >Hope all is well with the ukba lot!! Life is good!

Hi Michelle, We're modtly ok. Life is damp.

> I wonder if Jim ever got connected? I'll bet his wellies are in use at
> the moment. Cumbria is recovering from 12" of rain! Didn't Texas get a
> bit recently?

I spoke to Jim earlier. They're fine, a few problems with drains and
wondering if he'll be able to get onto his land between now and turnout is
all. He was dining of fish 'n chips prior to taking his good lady out to a
village do...

He got broadband in the end but by then he'd had so long with lousy
connections that, aIui, he's lost the usenet habit.

Cheerio,

--

>> de...@farm-direct.co.uk
>> http://www.farm-direct.co.uk/

Michelle Masters

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Nov 22, 2009, 8:55:17 AM11/22/09
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Tim Lamb wrote:
>
> Hi Michelle.

Hi, Tim :-)

> Lavatory humour flows.

LOL :-) Words escape me.

> Broad band seems to have dispersed us to forums etc.

Hints can be sent to marvelisticme on any popular free mail server :-)

> I wonder if Jim ever got connected? I'll bet his wellies are in use at
> the moment. Cumbria is recovering from 12" of rain! Didn't Texas get a
> bit recently?

I can't believe how much it's rained this Autumn. I think we are all
caught up on rainfall for the year. Well, I haven't checked and I avoid
listening to the news, but we HAVE to be by now. We have had a couple
of weeks of beautiful weather (damn near perfect) too, which was
necessary because all that rain (every day for 2 weeks at least) was
making me depressed. I think I suffer from that thar sun deprivation
(really).

Are y'all getting rain all over or just in Jim's neck of the woods?
It's kinda funny, but when I think of the British Isles, I picture it as
the size of Fort Worth (LOL :-) I know that's not realistic. For some
reason, I think (remember) in images and that incorrect image is stuck
in my brain :-)

Happy Sunday!
M

Michelle Masters

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Nov 22, 2009, 8:57:48 AM11/22/09
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Old Codger wrote:
> Hi Michelle!

Howdy :-) I don't really use that word in real life. I just use it for
effect :-)

> Pleased you are finding life is good, I am of like mind. :-)

It makes me smile to know others are happy :-)

M

Michelle Masters

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Nov 22, 2009, 8:59:15 AM11/22/09
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lynz wrote:
>
> Hi from over here as well. Hoping for some rain soon. Hope Jim didnt get
> washed away.

Hi :-)

That "over here" is Texas size :-) I am sending rain that way, as I
type. I've had enough!

M

Michelle Masters

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Nov 22, 2009, 9:05:29 AM11/22/09
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Derek Moody wrote:
>
> Hi Michelle, We're modtly ok. Life is damp.

Hi, Derek :-)

Damp is normal for y'all this time of year, right?

I was just talking about you to a friend last night. I'm helping out a
friend whose husband is in the last stages of brain cancer and she is
keeping him at home (no easy feat) and she was telling about the things
they had dreamed of doing together that they never got to do, one of
which was going to Ireland. That's where you are, right?

Anyway, I am going to do my best to get her over there sometime and hope
to come along with her. Both of us are of humble means, so I'm not sure
how we'll do it, but I sure hope to get to meet you at least when I'm over!

M

Buddenbrooks

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Nov 22, 2009, 9:12:25 AM11/22/09
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"Michelle Masters" <nu...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:EtKdnYhiP7BP35TW...@giganews.com...
> Tim Lamb wrote:

> It's kinda funny, but when I think of the British Isles, I picture it as
> the size of Fort Worth (LOL :-) I know that's not realistic. For some
> reason, I think (remember) in images and that incorrect image is stuck in
> my brain :-)
>

I think we are about a third of the size of Texas.

Peter Duncanson

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Nov 22, 2009, 9:32:13 AM11/22/09
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On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:55:17 -0600, Michelle Masters <nu...@nowhere.com>
wrote:

>Tim Lamb wrote:
>>
>> Hi Michelle.
>
>Hi, Tim :-)
>
>> Lavatory humour flows.
>
>LOL :-) Words escape me.
>
>> Broad band seems to have dispersed us to forums etc.
>
>Hints can be sent to marvelisticme on any popular free mail server :-)
>
>> I wonder if Jim ever got connected? I'll bet his wellies are in use at
>> the moment. Cumbria is recovering from 12" of rain! Didn't Texas get a
>> bit recently?
>
>I can't believe how much it's rained this Autumn. I think we are all
>caught up on rainfall for the year. Well, I haven't checked and I avoid
>listening to the news, but we HAVE to be by now. We have had a couple
>of weeks of beautiful weather (damn near perfect) too, which was
>necessary because all that rain (every day for 2 weeks at least) was
>making me depressed. I think I suffer from that thar sun deprivation
>(really).
>

>Are y'all getting rain all over or just in Jim's neck of the woods?

Not all over, but much more than just Jim's neck of the woods.

Scotland (it is particularly bad in the southwestern part at the
moment):
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2009/11/20/weather-conditions-bring-chaos-to-britain-86908-21836074/

Northern Ireland:
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/families-stranded-as-torrential-downpours-block-country-roads-14571052.html
(Note: the article is about Northern Ireland but the photo is from
Cumbria not NI.)

The Irish Republic:
Major disruption caused by widespread flooding
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/nation-facing-huge-bill-for-flood-damage-1949485.html.
Some areas hit by four times average rain
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2009/1120/breaking62.html?via=rel
Rivers burst their banks, roads flooded and sewerage facilities affected
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2009/1120/1224259178994.html?via=rel
Nation facing huge bill for flood damage
South and west hardest hit as Army is deployed
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/nation-facing-huge-bill-for-flood-damage-1949485.html

>It's kinda funny, but when I think of the British Isles, I picture it as
>the size of Fort Worth (LOL :-) I know that's not realistic. For some
>reason, I think (remember) in images and that incorrect image is stuck
>in my brain :-)
>
>Happy Sunday!
>M

--
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in uk.business.agriculture)

Derek Moody

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Nov 22, 2009, 9:32:29 AM11/22/09
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In article <L76dnUM-z-ap2JTW...@giganews.com>, Michelle Masters
<URL:mailto:nu...@nowhere.com> wrote:

> Damp is normal for y'all this time of year, right?

There's damp and there's *damp*...

> I was just talking about you to a friend last night. I'm helping out a

That explains the ear trouble ;-)



> friend whose husband is in the last stages of brain cancer and she is
> keeping him at home (no easy feat) and she was telling about the things
> they had dreamed of doing together that they never got to do, one of
> which was going to Ireland. That's where you are, right?

No. South of England but Ireland is one of my irregular stamping grounds
(actually splashing would be more accurate as I'm usually fishing.)

> Anyway, I am going to do my best to get her over there sometime and hope
> to come along with her. Both of us are of humble means, so I'm not sure
> how we'll do it, but I sure hope to get to meet you at least when I'm over!

Ah! another excuse for a trip.

:-)

Buddenbrooks

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Nov 22, 2009, 9:48:24 AM11/22/09
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"Derek Moody" <de...@farm-direct.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> No. South of England but Ireland is one of my irregular stamping grounds
> (actually splashing would be more accurate as I'm usually fishing.)
>


On Texas scale about the same as a trip from Fort Worth to Dallas :~)

Michelle Masters

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Nov 22, 2009, 11:59:40 AM11/22/09
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Derek Moody wrote:
> In article <L76dnUM-z-ap2JTW...@giganews.com>, Michelle Masters
> <URL:mailto:nu...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> Damp is normal for y'all this time of year, right?
>
> There's damp and there's *damp*...

LOL :-) I see.

>> I was just talking about you to a friend last night. I'm helping out a
>
> That explains the ear trouble ;-)

:-)

> No. South of England but Ireland is one of my irregular stamping grounds
> (actually splashing would be more accurate as I'm usually fishing.)

Hmmm....I wonder what made me think that?? Ok, trying to replace memory
image related to the name Derek Moody :-)

> Ah! another excuse for a trip.
> :-)

When I do get over that way again, I'll definitely let y'all know, so I
can have the opportunity to meet whomever it's possible to get together
with. Just occurred to me that I used "y'all" and "whomever" in the
same sentence...multiple grammar personalities, I guess :-)

> Cheerio,

Cheerio :-)

Michelle Masters

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Nov 22, 2009, 12:01:03 PM11/22/09
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Yes, I think living in Texas has warped my image of the size of things
in the rest of the world, literally :-)

Michelle Masters

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Nov 22, 2009, 12:07:46 PM11/22/09
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Peter Duncanson wrote:
>
> Not all over, but much more than just Jim's neck of the woods.
>
> Scotland (it is particularly bad in the southwestern part at the
> moment):
> http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2009/11/20/weather-conditions-bring-chaos-to-britain-86908-21836074/
>
> Northern Ireland:
> http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/families-stranded-as-torrential-downpours-block-country-roads-14571052.html
> (Note: the article is about Northern Ireland but the photo is from
> Cumbria not NI.)
>
> The Irish Republic:
> Major disruption caused by widespread flooding
> http://www.independent.ie/national-news/nation-facing-huge-bill-for-flood-damage-1949485.html.
> Some areas hit by four times average rain
> http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2009/1120/breaking62.html?via=rel
> Rivers burst their banks, roads flooded and sewerage facilities affected
> http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2009/1120/1224259178994.html?via=rel
> Nation facing huge bill for flood damage
> South and west hardest hit as Army is deployed
> http://www.independent.ie/national-news/nation-facing-huge-bill-for-flood-damage-1949485.html

Wow! That looks like a Texas rain, rather than a UK one. Y'all don't
get downpours like that very often, do ya?

Old Codger

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Nov 22, 2009, 12:20:03 PM11/22/09
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What's to be unhappy about. I am retired, have enough to live on - for
the moment at least - and I woke up this morning. Life must be good. :-)

Steve Firth

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Nov 22, 2009, 1:05:34 PM11/22/09
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Michelle Masters <nu...@nowhere.com> wrote:

> Yes, I think living in Texas has warped my image of the size of things
> in the rest of the world, literally :-)

Oh it's not that big. It's only the size of France. Heh, that must make
you all cheese-eating surrender monkeys :-)

Buddenbrooks

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Nov 22, 2009, 1:26:17 PM11/22/09
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"Michelle Masters" <nu...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:ZfqdnXF9KPma85TW...@giganews.com...

"y'all" and "whomever" in the
> same sentence...multiple grammar personalities, I guess :-)
>

I think American and English follow the same grammar rules. 'y'all' fills
a hole in English vocabulary I am surprised it has not moved
into standard usage.

Buddenbrooks

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Nov 22, 2009, 1:29:41 PM11/22/09
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"Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Oh it's not that big. It's only the size of France. Heh, that must make
> you all cheese-eating surrender monkeys :-)

Not planning a trip to Texas soon then :)

Michelle Masters

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Nov 22, 2009, 1:53:55 PM11/22/09
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LOL :-)

Steve Firth

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Nov 22, 2009, 2:08:45 PM11/22/09
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Buddenbrooks <knights...@budweiser.com> wrote:

God no, not since I stopped working for Raytheon.

Tim Lamb

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Nov 22, 2009, 2:06:28 PM11/22/09
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In message <EtKdnYhiP7BP35TW...@giganews.com>, Michelle
Masters <nu...@nowhere.com> writes

>I can't believe how much it's rained this Autumn. I think we are all

>caught up on rainfall for the year. Well, I haven't checked and I
>avoid listening to the news, but we HAVE to be by now. We have had a
>couple of weeks of beautiful weather (damn near perfect) too, which was
>necessary because all that rain (every day for 2 weeks at least) was
>making me depressed. I think I suffer from that thar sun deprivation
>(really).

I have a vision of a three branch cactus sticking out of a biblical
flood:-)


>
>Are y'all getting rain all over or just in Jim's neck of the woods?
>It's kinda funny, but when I think of the British Isles, I picture it
>as the size of Fort Worth (LOL :-) I know that's not realistic. For
>some reason, I think (remember) in images and that incorrect image is
>stuck in my brain :-)

No. Jim's bit sticks up more than the rest of us so he tends to catch
what's available.

I'm told it is all to do with the jet stream.
>
>Happy Sunday!

Ugh! I'm self catering and building a stable.

regards

--
Tim Lamb

Peter Duncanson

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Nov 22, 2009, 3:31:50 PM11/22/09
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On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:07:46 -0600, Michelle Masters <nu...@nowhere.com>
wrote:

>Peter Duncanson wrote:

Not usually. Fortunately.

Buddenbrooks

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Nov 22, 2009, 3:56:39 PM11/22/09
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"Peter Duncanson" <ma...@peterduncanson.net> wrote in message
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> Not usually. Fortunately.
>


Is that not the problem, we build on flood plains because no one remembers
it ever flooding.

Peter Duncanson

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Nov 22, 2009, 4:04:54 PM11/22/09
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Indeed. To make a point I sometimes refer to flood plains as
"temporarily dry river beds".

Tim Lamb

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Nov 23, 2009, 3:28:55 AM11/23/09
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In message <aAhOm.10559$Cs2....@newsfe13.ams2>, Buddenbrooks
<knights...@budweiser.com> writes

Umm.. current planning seems to have an antipathy towards allowing
private development where it will be *visible*. Exception sites with a
preponderance of social housing point this up.

regards

--
Tim Lamb

Steve Firth

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Nov 23, 2009, 3:55:42 AM11/23/09
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Tim Lamb <t...@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Umm.. current planning seems to have an antipathy towards allowing
> private development where it will be *visible*. Exception sites with a
> preponderance of social housing point this up.

Not just current planning. I drive down to the coast at the weekend near
Fareham in Hampshire. I noticed there that as the A32 approaches the
coast it runs in a dry river valley. It's fairly obvious by the contrast
between the flat valley floor and the raised hills/small cliffs to
either side that at one time a sizeable river ran along the route, to
have carved the landscape as it has.

Yet houses are built along the margin between hills and the flood plain
which date back to the 1880s and on the flood plain itself there are new
supermarkets, industrial units etc all with enormous areas of reinforced
concrete raft and car park.

It's not just us though, I can recall seeing similar use of low-lying
land around Le Havre. In fact even more obvious there since the housing
is all in a dry valley with steep chalk cliffs on each side.

grey...@mail.com

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Nov 23, 2009, 7:49:13 AM11/23/09
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On 2009-11-22, Peter Duncanson <ma...@peterduncanson.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:55:17 -0600, Michelle Masters <nu...@nowhere.com>
> wrote:
>
> Nation facing huge bill for flood damage
> South and west hardest hit as Army is deployed
> http://www.independent.ie/national-news/nation-facing-huge-bill-for-flood-damage-1949485.html
>

I was down the country as far as Urlingford, almost, last Friday,
usual rainfall for this time of year, cattle in sheds, as they
probably should be. Barrow river about twice its usual width, floood
plains south of Monastrevin all covered (but they flood every year).
According to radio, the flood in Cork was partly caused by an
unfortunate sequence of events, the police were looking for a body,
so the Upstream ESB dam stopped letting off surplus water, which
meant that they had no margin when the water started to rise (55mm+
in 24 hours). AFAIK, the word `Cork' means bog. T'was gods judgement
on them :), they have been slagging off Dublin for the last while (A
cork publishing house published a guide to Dublin, which advised
against visiting parts of the city, and a survey said that Cork was a
far better place to visit than Dublin, etc,etc)

>
>
>>It's kinda funny, but when I think of the British Isles, I picture it as
>>the size of Fort Worth (LOL :-) I know that's not realistic. For some
>>reason, I think (remember) in images and that incorrect image is stuck
>>in my brain :-)
>>
>>Happy Sunday!
>>M
>

I doubt that there is an area in Texas with as little population as
Rannoch Moor (Big Bend, maybe).

Old story, Kerryman is visiting relatives in Texas, they drive him
around this massive ranch, as ask him if there is anything like it in
Ireland, he replies "Arrah, there is so much land in Kerry that they
had to heap it up so it would fit"

Varient:

Texan: "This ranch is so big that we could drive across all day and
not get to the end"
Kerryman: "I had a car like that once"


--
greymaus
.
.
...

Buddenbrooks

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Nov 23, 2009, 12:35:27 PM11/23/09
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<grey...@mail.com> wrote in message
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> On 2009-11-22, Peter Duncanson <ma...@peterduncanson.net> wrote:
, and a survey said that Cork was a
> far better place to visit than Dublin, etc,etc)
>


On my very limited visits to Ireland I would vote for Cork.

Steve Firth

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Nov 23, 2009, 1:59:07 PM11/23/09
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Buddenbrooks <knights...@budweiser.com> wrote:

Me2, I love to sail into Cork and head for Kinsale.

sraw...@cix.compulink.co.uk

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Nov 23, 2009, 4:06:38 PM11/23/09
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In article <FJzOm.22814$F44....@newsfe21.ams2>,
knights...@budweiser.com (Buddenbrooks) wrote:
.
> > On 2009-11-22, Peter Duncanson <ma...@peterduncanson.net> wrote:
> , and a survey said that Cork was a
> > far better place to visit than Dublin, etc,etc)
> >
>
>
> On my very limited visits to Ireland I would vote for Cork.
>
Agreed, a really nice buzzy place without some of the over the top
partying that some of Dublin seems to think is required


Steve Rawlings


Steve Firth

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Nov 23, 2009, 4:19:25 PM11/23/09
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<sraw...@cix.compulink.co.uk> wrote:

> >
> Agreed, a really nice buzzy place without some of the over the top
> partying that some of Dublin seems to think is required

<boggle> Have you been going to a different Cork to me? Consumption to
an excess seems to be an obligation at every "do" I attend between Cork,
Blarney and Clonmel.

Derek Moody

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Nov 23, 2009, 8:45:23 PM11/23/09
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In article <slrnhgl108.f...@maus.org>,

<URL:mailto:grey...@mail.com> wrote:
> On 2009-11-22, Peter Duncanson <ma...@peterduncanson.net> wrote:

> I was down the country as far as Urlingford, almost, last Friday,
> usual rainfall for this time of year, cattle in sheds, as they
> probably should be. Barrow river about twice its usual width, floood
> plains south of Monastrevin all covered (but they flood every year).

It's only two years since bridges were being washed out around Dublin in
September.

> According to radio, the flood in Cork was partly caused by an
> unfortunate sequence of events, the police were looking for a body,
> so the Upstream ESB dam stopped letting off surplus water, which
> meant that they had no margin when the water started to rise (55mm+

I've been at the weir on the western outskirts of Cork when the ESB
generators came on line. It goes fron a civilised water feature to a
torrent in about a minute flat. I imagine that with a big rainshed load
it's a dramatic sight.

> in 24 hours). AFAIK, the word `Cork' means bog. T'was gods judgement
> on them :), they have been slagging off Dublin for the last while (A
> cork publishing house published a guide to Dublin, which advised
> against visiting parts of the city, and a survey said that Cork was a
> far better place to visit than Dublin, etc,etc)

There are places in both cities where you must make sure your 'T' shirt
is advertising the correct brewery.

Derek Moody

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Nov 23, 2009, 8:51:51 PM11/23/09
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In article <1j9ndrl.1auehvnxype7qN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth

The Swansea-Cork ferry link closed three years ago. Easily the best
crossing imo. There is a story that it will resume in 2010 - but there has
been such a story every year since the closure.

Buddenbrooks

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Nov 24, 2009, 1:21:57 AM11/24/09
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"Derek Moody" <de...@farm-direct.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <slrnhgl108.f...@maus.org>,

>
> There are places in both cities where you must make sure your 'T' shirt
> is advertising the correct brewery.
>

One must support local culture.

sraw...@cix.compulink.co.uk

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Nov 24, 2009, 4:18:17 AM11/24/09
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In article <1j9nkfn.i6vxps1tqdlemN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>,
%steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote:

> *From:* %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth)
> *Date:* Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:19:25 +0000

Sounds as if you are going to better do's than me! My feeling was more
that Dublin tries too hard... DUCKS!

Steve Rawlings


grey...@mail.com

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Nov 24, 2009, 4:49:19 AM11/24/09
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One is reminded of a review of the folk singer, Pecker Dunne, said
that he "was so ethnicy, that it stuck out like a beard",
(translation, "He was a real tinker")

grey...@mail.com

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Nov 24, 2009, 7:49:11 AM11/24/09
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On 2009-11-24, grey...@mail.com <grey...@mail.com> wrote:
> On 2009-11-24, Buddenbrooks <knights...@budweiser.com> wrote:
>>
>> "Derek Moody" <de...@farm-direct.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:ant24012...@strongarm.half-baked-idea.co.uk...
>>> In article <slrnhgl108.f...@maus.org>,
>>
>>>
>>> There are places in both cities where you must make sure your 'T' shirt
>>> is advertising the correct brewery.
>>>
>>
>> One must support local culture.

Shouldn't criticise local people on a UK forum, but I worked with a
cork man in one area years ago, finally another man said to him,
"Will you shut the f*** up about sh****** Cork".

Cork farmers are among the best in the country, going along the road
in a desolate mountain area, suddeny you come on a lovely dairy farm,
reclaimed from the mountain (I supposed the green-cranks would
deplore that, but I admire it)


Blarney Castle in near Cork, tourists pay to kiss the Blarney stone,
from my ideas on old castles, what they are actually kissing is part
of the (Garderobe?). Now, that is smart. I think the Colcott family
own the Castle.

(Baltimore, lovely village in West Cork, is the only place in the
British Isles to suffer a moorish corsair raid, back then. Now we
know that a `Bankers Raid' is worse than that :).. )

That whole coast is perfect for smuggling, then and now, then was
Spanish and French wine, now is Columbian drugs, many small coves,
and uninhabited areas..

Steve Firth

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Nov 24, 2009, 8:05:25 AM11/24/09
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<grey...@mail.com> wrote:

> Cork farmers are among the best in the country, going along the road
> in a desolate mountain area, suddeny you come on a lovely dairy farm,
> reclaimed from the mountain (I supposed the green-cranks would
> deplore that, but I admire it)

I have a friend who owns a dairy farm on the road near Blarney. He makes
wonderful cheese and it was cheese making that really saved the farm.
The only thing that does sadden me about the farm is that the original
farm house which was Georgian, and a rather fine building has been left
to rot and a new bungalow built in the grounds.

That seems to be typical of the area, as if the old (English) buildings
have too many bad memories.

Peter Duncanson

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Nov 24, 2009, 9:21:49 AM11/24/09
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On 24 Nov 2009 12:49:11 GMT, grey...@mail.com wrote:

>
>(Baltimore, lovely village in West Cork, is the only place in the
>British Isles to suffer a moorish corsair raid, back then. Now we
>know that a `Bankers Raid' is worse than that :).. )
>

I wasn't just "any old" raid. The inhabitants were captured and sold as
slaves.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sack_of_Baltimore
http://www.baltimore.ie/heritage_of_baltimore_county_cork/sack.html

Peter Duncanson

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Nov 24, 2009, 9:29:59 AM11/24/09
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On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:21:49 +0000, Peter Duncanson
<ma...@peterduncanson.net> wrote:

>I wasn't

"It wasn't", dammit.

Message has been deleted

Buddenbrooks

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"Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message
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> <grey...@mail.com> wrote:
>
>
> That seems to be typical of the area, as if the old (English) buildings
> have too many bad memories.

One should not forget the past, but no need for memorials.

grey...@mail.com

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Nov 24, 2009, 6:49:14 PM11/24/09
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I think myself that the problem was caused by the depression the
country was in from 1929 to 1957, lots of those old houses had gone
too far, and would cost too much to restore. The old English houses,
, in England, well kept up, are a pleasure to see.


A lot of ruined old houses in Ireland were burned during the Irish
Civil war, as the anti-Treaty side attempted to intimidate the
remaining Anglo-Irish property owners from co-operating with the
Pro-Treaty government.

Anyway, with the recent property bubble, we nearly have as many big
houses as anywhere, even if they are (horribly modern).


Guy in Roscommon has restored Lord Leitrim's estate as a
golfcourse/leisure/whatever. now gone into the economic void.

grey...@mail.com

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Nov 24, 2009, 6:49:15 PM11/24/09
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On 2009-11-24, VivienB <vbmessages...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:05:25 +0000, %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth)
> wrote:
>
>>The only thing that does sadden me about the farm is that the original
>>farm house which was Georgian, and a rather fine building has been left
>>to rot and a new bungalow built in the grounds.
>>
>>That seems to be typical of the area, as if the old (English) buildings
>>have too many bad memories.
>
> It isn't just that part of Ireland, nor just houses built by the
> English/Anglo-Irish. It is common to see the ruinous remains of old
> traditional buildings standing within sight of a new bungalow.
>
> Another aspect of Irish housebuilding which stands out to an eye
> accustomed to UK styles (and planning limitations), is the habit that
> started when the Celtic Tiger got going. What I referred to as
> 'mini-mansions', large houses, sometimes with portico or balcony, or
> other showy designs, sitting bang in the middle of an otherwise empty
> field. Now money is tighter, things will have changed I am sure. I
> just hope Ireland gets a grip on planning so that people can have
> decent housing and facilities at fair prices without spoiling the
> essence of the place.
>

yes. Probably the worse is the `South Fork' problem, there is a house
on the Athlone-Castlerea road, regular bungalow, twin staircases
sweeping down to the entrance. Wow. OTOH, on the road somewhere near
Pontoon, we stopped once when I spotted a `long house' (which were
common when I was young), yunno., a regular mudwalled, or stone walled
in the mountains, with cowhouses further along, anyway I stopped the
car and attemted to photograph, when this incredibly smokestained
person opened the front door and demanded what I was doing.

However, probably the worse house is somewhat closer, near here, each
end has collapsed and the inhabitants have retreated to the middle
rooms, dogs live in the almost unroofed rooms at the end. I would
upload a picture except it would possibly identify me, A doctor
discreetly asked me to get photos couple of years ago, she sent them
to the housing people, then for a joke, posted them on a hospital
notice board, with a written message at the bottom, "How much is this
house worth?" (This was at the height of the boom). One doctor
guessed a million euro for the site, to demolish the house and
rebuild. Can't be done, they sold the grounds years ago, so there is
no room to rebuild.

Derek Moody

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In article <7tqng5daqldbsh1v6...@4ax.com>, Peter Duncanson

<URL:mailto:ma...@peterduncanson.net> wrote:
> On 24 Nov 2009 12:49:11 GMT, grey...@mail.com wrote:
>
> >
> >(Baltimore, lovely village in West Cork, is the only place in the
> >British Isles to suffer a moorish corsair raid, back then. Now we

Quite possibly not. Certainly the largest, relatively recent, settlement.

> >know that a `Bankers Raid' is worse than that :).. )
> >
> I wasn't just "any old" raid. The inhabitants were captured and sold as
> slaves.

Careful, implying that persons of a dusky hue would take white slaves is
horribly politically incorrect. AfaIct the only pre-triangle-trade slavery
that can safely be mentioned is Roman with Gregory's 'Non Angli sed
angeli...' being the absolute (6th cent.) cut off.

Linda Sutherland

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"Derek Moody" <de...@farm-direct.co.uk> wrote in message
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> AfaIct the only pre-triangle-trade slavery that can safely be mentioned is
Roman

And Viking. They were heavily into slave-trading.

Linda.


Peter Duncanson

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Nov 25, 2009, 7:14:59 AM11/25/09
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This Wikipedia article canters through some aspects of slavery:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Britain_and_Ireland

[The neutrality of this article is disputed.]

It includes:

... Oliver Cromwell shipped Romanichal Gypsies as slaves from
England, Wales and Scotland to the American southern plantations and
there is documentation of English Gypsies being owned by freed black
slaves in Jamaica, Barbados and in both Cuba and Louisiana.

grey...@mail.com

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Nov 25, 2009, 9:49:17 AM11/25/09
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Ireland gets _very_ complicated, before Cromwell arrived, and spoiled
the good times (:)), there were 4 main strands to Irish Society, the
`real' Irish, mostly Catholic, mostly depropertied and
disenfranchised until some recovered their property after `rising up'
in 1641, English-derived Catholics, settled during Queen Mary's time
in Queens County and around, main town Maryborough (now the squalid
overgrown village of Portlaoise), Scots-derived Northerners, and the
people who had become refugees after 1641, who hoped for Cromwell to
restore them to property. A lot of the English Catholics were sent to
slavery in Barbados and the West Indies generally, which is why you
will meet many dusky people there who claim Irish nobility, A lot of
`native' Irish were either executed if found armed, or deported as
well. (James II deported a lot of those captured after Sedgemoor as
well, it was a popular punishment)

Then there were those who went out under lesser forms of slavery,
indenture, whatever, mostly whites. (Friend worked for years in the
US, his visa specified that he could be deported if he switched
employer without permission, what would you call that system?.)

According to discussion in another group, during sometime between
1830-1864, the law was changed in some of the Southern States, under
which a Negro was assumed to be a slave, until he proved otherwise.
Now, that was evil. (eviller, evillest?)

Peter Duncanson

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On 25 Nov 2009 14:49:17 GMT, grey...@mail.com wrote:

>(Friend worked for years in the
>US, his visa specified that he could be deported if he switched
>employer without permission, what would you call that system?.)

Very similar to the arrangements currently in the UK for workers from
countries outside the European Economic Area. An employer has to get
permission to employ a migrant for a particular job. If that job ceases
to exist the migrant may have to return home.

I think there are similar rules in Ireland. I've looked at both UK and
Ireland official websites and am now confused. :-)

Buddenbrooks

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"Peter Duncanson" <ma...@peterduncanson.net> wrote in message
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> Very similar to the arrangements currently in the UK for workers from
> countries outside the European Economic Area. An employer has to get
> permission to employ a migrant for a particular job. If that job ceases
> to exist the migrant may have to return home.
>
> I think there are similar rules in Ireland. I've looked at both UK and
> Ireland official websites and am now confused. :-)
>

Australia is the same after a certain age, 45 I think.

lynz

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Michelle Masters wrote:
> lynz wrote:
>>
>> Hi from over here as well. Hoping for some rain soon. Hope Jim didnt
>> get washed away.
>
> Hi :-)
>
> That "over here" is Texas size :-) I am sending rain that way, as I
> type. I've had enough!
>
> M
Thanks anything up to about 100mm would be fine. Hot sunny and windy
today. Would be ok if we were making hay today. :)
Cheers L

grey...@mail.com

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Nov 26, 2009, 5:49:09 AM11/26/09
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On 2009-11-25, Peter Duncanson <ma...@peterduncanson.net> wrote:

Official websites are intended for that :).

Lots of Turks came in for the Dublin tunnel job, and went home after. I
don't think the Moldavans wanted to remain here anyway, country far
too expensive. (Local meat factory staffed with Moldavans).

Moldavan national hymn,

"When we were communist, we had houses, maybe not great houses, but
houses"
"When we were communist, we had jobs, maybe not great jobs, but jobs"
"When we were communist, we had *, maybe not great *, but *"

etc, etc, s/*/women/

To which the obvious answer, "why don't you go home and vote the
communists back in?"

A lot actually did.

To return to the above, this is rather like indenture.

grey...@mail.com

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Nov 26, 2009, 5:49:10 AM11/26/09
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Man I know with extensive contacts in the prairie provinces, I asked
about moving there, (interested for an unemployed relatives) he
assumed I meant for myself, and said that people my age, 60+ (for a
large range of `+' :) ) or so, would need a million euros or so in
assets before you would be allowed citizenship. Local guy had a job
got in the Toronto area, his friend went out with him, but had to
have 8000 euros for keep before allowed in. Australian rules are
changing for the New Year, basically Australians only.

Peter Duncanson

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Nov 26, 2009, 7:15:59 AM11/26/09
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Almost.

The rules appear to be that a worker from a foreign country with which
we, UK or ROI, are not connected (by a treaty permitting the free
movement of workers) can come to do a job for which there is not a
suitable local candidate. The employer has to get government permission
to employ that particular named individual. If or when the employee
leaves the job he or she has no general right to work in the country and
unless taking illegal employment will need to go back home.

Michelle Masters

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Derek Moody wrote:
> In article <L76dnUM-z-ap2JTW...@giganews.com>, Michelle Masters
> <URL:mailto:nu...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> Damp is normal for y'all this time of year, right?
>
> There's damp and there's *damp*...

LOL :-) I see.

>> I was just talking about you to a friend last night. I'm helping out a
>
> That explains the ear trouble ;-)

:-)

> No. South of England but Ireland is one of my irregular stamping grounds
> (actually splashing would be more accurate as I'm usually fishing.)

Hmmm....I wonder what made me think that?? Ok, trying to replace memory
image related to the name Derek Moody :-)

> Ah! another excuse for a trip.
> :-)

When I do get over that way again, I'll definitely let y'all know, so I
can get to see whomever it's possible to get together with. Just
occurred to me that I used y'all and whomever in the same sentence...
Multiple grammar personalities, I guess :-)

> Cheerio,

Cheerio :-)


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