MRSA -Weasel words from a discredited Defra
Pat Gardiner
Look at Defra's crooked misleading weasel comment:
'Evidence does not suggest that the presence of MRSA in pig herds is a
public health risk.'
They must hold the people of Britain in total contempt. MRSA has been
hidden up by them for at least five years.
It will not be long before they are stripped of crown immunity and
before the Courts.
http://www.theecologist.org/News/news_round_up/369377/pig_mrsa_widespread_in_europe.html
Pig MRSA widespread in Europe
The Ecologist
25th November, 2009
Calls for national testing in UK pig herd after survey finds superbug
to be prevalent throughout Europe
MRSA has been found in pig herds in more than two-thirds of countries
within the European Union (EU), new research shows.
In the first EU-wide survey, the European Food Safety Authority (EFSA)
found the antibiotic-resistant bug in 17 out of 24 member states.
Spain and Germany had the highest incidence, with over 40 per cent of
pig holdings testing positive for MRSA.
The most common MRSA strain found is considered by EFSA to be 'an
occupational health risk for farmers, veterinarians and their
families'. It causes skin infections, pneumonia and bone infections.
National test
Whilst the survey did not find any evidence of MRSA in UK pig
holdings, the Soil Association has warned that MRSA could still be
present in British pigs and that the test used was inadequate.
Another country declared MRSA-free by the survey, Switzerland, did
detect the bacteria through its own national testing.
The Soil Association is calling for the UK to carry out its own
national survey of bacterial infections in pigs.
'MRSA testing is simple and relatively inexpensive and there can be no
excuse for not introducing a comprehensive UK testing program in pigs,
poultry, cattle and horses, based on the tried and tested use of nasal
swabs,' said Soil Association Policy Adviser Richard Young.
A spokesperson for Defra said:
'Evidence does not suggest that the presence of MRSA in pig herds is a
public health risk.'
Burkie
<pat.gardi...@removeremovelive.co.uk> wrote:
> Pat's Note: Bully for Switzerland.
>
> Look at Defra's crooked misleading weasel comment:
>
> 'Evidence does not suggest that the presence of MRSA in pig herds is a
> public health risk.'
>
> They must hold the people of Britain in total contempt. MRSA has been
> hidden up by them for at least five years.
>
> It will not be long before they are stripped of crown immunity and
> before the Courts.
>
Dear Mr. Gardiner: What an intriguing statement! And how evasive
and ambiguous at the same time.
Evidence? What evidence? Please show provide us the details of the
tests that have been conducted, the number of premises, their
locations, what production facilities were samples collected from and
what types of production facilities were involved? Evidence,
please. Evidence, even that any teste were actually conducted?
Complete with times, dates, places and names. Other EU MS's seem to
be able to do that, so what makes the UK the exception?
Burkie
Pat Gardiner
wrote:
Well my understanding, based on what the Soil Association has to say,
is that unlike some EU and non-EU countries, Britain has only tested
dust samples.
Even if the dust samples are carefully and honestly collected, they
are no substitute for nasal swabs on the pigs.
The dust samples were collected by a government veterinary
organisation known for the last decade to deliberately fake tests and
to intimidate and harass anyone attempting to complain. The dust
probably came from a carefully checked sterile environment.
They have even induced third parties to harass and bully anyone
attempting to expose their crimes. That is currently being
investigated by the competent authorities. I'm not sure whether I will
be called as a witness and am currently awaiting developments.
It is all over.
Britain's bent government vets are destined for gaol, probably jail
since the removal of Crown Immunity could lead to extradition to the
USA. I have the idea that many other bodies have tested the pigs
independently and do know that MRSA is present. It would be strange if
the had not.
Defra won't be able to give any of the information you are requesting.
It would incriminate them.
It is absolute necessity that the British government should stand down
the discredited State Veterinary Service and bring in reliable
independent scientists to take nasal tests.
It should take only a few days and if as expected they find MRSA,
immediate steps can be taken to protect hospitals, pig and pork
workers, not excluding the vets that we know carry unusal rates of
MRSA.
Your interest and help is appreciated. It is in everyone's interest to
get this cleared up fast.
--
Regards
Pat Gardiner
Release and independently audit the results of testing British pigs
for MRSA and C.Diff now!
www.go-self-sufficient.com and http://animal-epidemics.blogspot.com/
>
>Burkie
Burkie
wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:53:45 -0800 (PST), Burkie <Burki...@yahoo.com>
Dear Pat: I thought we were told that nasal swabbing was going to be
done, in addition to dust sampling by former press releases announcing
this study last winter, say around February, March and April. They
were also going to test some 300 sow herds, so are we to assume that
the current announcements now made are a combination of both, or is
this just the result of the dust sampling. Perhaps you can retrieve
that information on UKBA, as I think those announcements were posted
on UKBA during that time window. The EFSA working groups also
announced their intentions to conduct these studies as long ago as
2007, so this has all been "a work in progress" since that time.
I think they told us they were going to take nasal swabs of both the
pigs and the people coming in contact with them.
Burkie
Pat Gardiner
wrote:
>On Nov 26, 4:14�pm, Pat Gardiner <pat.gardi...@removeremovelive.co.uk>
Hi Burkie
I will reply from memory and look up the references later.
EFSA did order tests long ago IIRC 2007 and they were a very long time
being done and very late in being published. Why?
Their tests were intended to be dust samples.
Some of the more conscientious and decent national authorities added
snout tests themselves and published the results early raising the
alarm about MRSA st398 and probably the reliability of dust samples
even when carefully taken by real decent scientists.
Those results obviously rang the alarm bells in EFSA
Britain is, of course, well behind the others and trying to defy EFSA
and deliberately using out-of-date information to insist there is no
human health risk. EU institutions have swept aside their defiance
before and will no doubt do so again.
Everyone else is moving ahead of Britain, even Hong Kong, where they
have snout tested and found other human - dangerous forms of MRSA.
http://drugresistantstaph.blogspot.com/2009/11/new-pig-strain-in-china.html
The USA too, has plenty of people doing the job properly and
publishing despite some obstacles being placed in their way by BIG PIG
It is inconceivable that the many non-British companies owning British
pigs and marketing British pork have not taken proper samples. So we
should find out soon, even if Defra is defiant others will publish.
We do know that the American private detective Pete or his associates
was on British pig farms prior to mid 2008 filming masses of empty
antibiotic packaging. He posted the links, the names of the farms etc
here and since he knew all about this issue probably took samples.
In the meantime, all the British pig production areas seem to have
excessive MRSA and other superbug levels and unreliable reporting
systems.
All hell has broken loose in Essex - including Colchester where
whistle blowers and leaks have revealed unusually high death rates,
dirt and under-reported MRSA in the local hospital trust. The boss has
been fired.
The unacceptable libels on me personally and fabrication of maritime
history taking place in the same area is now being appropriately
tackled, as is the question of the current difficulty in searching the
uk.business.agriculture archives. The latter is easily solved.
I will post on this separately.
--
Regards
Pat Gardiner
Release and independently audit the results of testing British pigs
Derek Moody
<URL:mailto:pat.ga...@removeremovelive.co.uk> wrote:
> Pat's Note: Bully for Switzerland.
>
> Look at Defra's crooked misleading weasel comment:
>
> 'Evidence does not suggest that the presence of MRSA in pig herds is a
> public health risk.'
True, this is misleading, Read carelessly it might seem to apply to
British pig herds.
Taken at face value it tallies with all known characteristics of SA.
Whether or not MRSA ever occurred in the pig who donated your breakfast
bacon normal food hygiene will keep you safe.
Glad to see you're out of Hospital.
Cheerio,
--
Pat Gardiner
<de...@farm-direct.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <26pqg51oguk7t693i...@4ax.com>, Pat Gardiner
><URL:mailto:pat.ga...@removeremovelive.co.uk> wrote:
>> Pat's Note: Bully for Switzerland.
>>
>> Look at Defra's crooked misleading weasel comment:
>>
>> 'Evidence does not suggest that the presence of MRSA in pig herds is a
>> public health risk.'
>
>True, this is misleading, Read carelessly it might seem to apply to
>British pig herds.
It's not misleading, it is a downright lie, deliberately disseminated
by Defra's dirty tricks department. It risks human lives, with
knowledge of the implications and as such will lead to prosecutions of
those involved.
>
>Taken at face value it tallies with all known characteristics of SA.
>Whether or not MRSA ever occurred in the pig who donated your breakfast
>bacon normal food hygiene will keep you safe.
Just for the record. I do not believe that eating properly cooked pork
is a risk. I personally would not handle raw pork or pigs without
gloves or washing very carefully afterwards.
>
>Glad to see you're out of Hospital.
Thank you. You probably do not believe me, but the person most likely
to protect you from the worst of the storm about your ears will
probably be me. You need me on my feet and exposing this terrible
scandal.
I despise people who take revenge and won't do it, others will not
take that line.
--
Regards
Pat Gardiner
Release and independently audit the results of testing British pigs
for MRSA and C.Diff now!
www.go-self-sufficient.com and http://animal-epidemics.blogspot.com/
>
>Cheerio,
Derek Moody
<URL:mailto:pat.ga...@removeremovelive.co.uk> wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:57:06 +0000, Derek Moody
> <de...@farm-direct.co.uk> wrote:
> >Glad to see you're out of Hospital.
>
> Thank you. You probably do not believe me, but the person most likely
> to protect you from the worst of the storm about your ears will
> probably be me. You need me on my feet and exposing this terrible
On the contrary, put your feet up, forget about it and and concentrate on
getting well.
Pat Gardiner
<de...@farm-direct.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <i9j2h59gr8t5r05gt...@4ax.com>, Pat Gardiner
><URL:mailto:pat.ga...@removeremovelive.co.uk> wrote:
>> On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:57:06 +0000, Derek Moody
>> <de...@farm-direct.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> >Glad to see you're out of Hospital.
>>
>> Thank you. You probably do not believe me, but the person most likely
>> to protect you from the worst of the storm about your ears will
>> probably be me. You need me on my feet and exposing this terrible
>
>On the contrary, put your feet up, forget about it and and concentrate on
>getting well.
You do not forget government employees faking blood tests in front of
your eyes and threatening your wife in her own home for reporting it.
Would you put up with that?
This is England, not 1930's central Europe. These people are
dangerous.
I had no idea of the depths of depravity that this would lead. Nobody
knew that it would lead to human deaths, although more care should
have been taken earlier.
It had to be stopped. I tried and will continue to try.
Life since 2000 has been a continuous series of threats.
Even today, as some of the watchers will realise, I received veiled
threats elsewhere to "mind my own business." The appropriate
authorities will not have missed that. If I'm troubled again, the
perpetrators will obviously be rounded up as prime suspects.
This desperate business has to stop and it is better that we stop it
ourselves, than allow the Americans to step in and force reform on
Britain.