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Pat Gardiner
May 23, 2013, 5:31:20 AM5/23/13
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Pat's Note: Right place, right time, right people for some questioning
about the state of British pig health, and associated criminal
activity including the thirteen year organised harassment of witnesses
to Parliament in Westminster and OLAF, the serious fraud squad of the
EU.
http://www.thepigsite.com/swinenews/33228/esphm-european-pig-health-meeting-opens-in-edinburgh-new-book-launched
ESPHM: European Pig Health Meeting Opens in Edinburgh, New Book
Launched
22 May 2013
SCOTLAND - The European Symposium on Porcine Health Management (ESPHM)
opens today in Edinburgh, with strong attendance from around 1,000
delegates from across Europe and further afield...
...This is the fifth conference in the ESPHM series. Scotland's
capital was chosen as the location as the Symposium also marks the
50th anniversary meeting of the Pig Veterinary Society of Great
Britain...
--
Regards
Pat Gardiner
Release and independently audit the results of testing British pigs
for MRSA, C.Diff and Hepatitis E now!
www.go-self-sufficient.com and http://animal-epidemics.blogspot.com/
about the state of British pig health, and associated criminal
activity including the thirteen year organised harassment of witnesses
to Parliament in Westminster and OLAF, the serious fraud squad of the
EU.
http://www.thepigsite.com/swinenews/33228/esphm-european-pig-health-meeting-opens-in-edinburgh-new-book-launched
ESPHM: European Pig Health Meeting Opens in Edinburgh, New Book
Launched
22 May 2013
SCOTLAND - The European Symposium on Porcine Health Management (ESPHM)
opens today in Edinburgh, with strong attendance from around 1,000
delegates from across Europe and further afield...
...This is the fifth conference in the ESPHM series. Scotland's
capital was chosen as the location as the Symposium also marks the
50th anniversary meeting of the Pig Veterinary Society of Great
Britain...
--
Regards
Pat Gardiner
Release and independently audit the results of testing British pigs
for MRSA, C.Diff and Hepatitis E now!
www.go-self-sufficient.com and http://animal-epidemics.blogspot.com/
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Pat Gardiner
May 23, 2013, 8:37:44 AM5/23/13
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On Thu, 23 May 2013 12:46:40 +0100, Malcolm
<Mal...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>In article <d5orp89nfnipfoc6b...@4ax.com>, Pat Gardiner
><pat.ga...@removeremovelive.co.uk> writes
>
>If not, who have you persuaded to ask the questions about the alleged
>"criminal activity", etc.?
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<Mal...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>In article <d5orp89nfnipfoc6b...@4ax.com>, Pat Gardiner
><pat.ga...@removeremovelive.co.uk> writes
>>Pat's Note: Right place, right time, right people for some questioning
>>about the state of British pig health, and associated criminal
>>activity including the thirteen year organised harassment of witnesses
>>to Parliament in Westminster and OLAF, the serious fraud squad of the
>>EU.
>>
>>http://www.thepigsite.com/swinenews/33228/esphm-european-pig-health-meet
>>ing-opens-in-edinburgh-new-book-launched
>>
>>ESPHM: European Pig Health Meeting Opens in Edinburgh, New Book
>>Launched
>>22 May 2013
>>
>>SCOTLAND - The European Symposium on Porcine Health Management (ESPHM)
>>opens today in Edinburgh, with strong attendance from around 1,000
>>delegates from across Europe and further afield...
>>
>>...This is the fifth conference in the ESPHM series. Scotland's
>>capital was chosen as the location as the Symposium also marks the
>>50th anniversary meeting of the Pig Veterinary Society of Great
>>Britain...
>>
>Are you attending this conference?
>>about the state of British pig health, and associated criminal
>>activity including the thirteen year organised harassment of witnesses
>>to Parliament in Westminster and OLAF, the serious fraud squad of the
>>EU.
>>
>>http://www.thepigsite.com/swinenews/33228/esphm-european-pig-health-meet
>>ing-opens-in-edinburgh-new-book-launched
>>
>>ESPHM: European Pig Health Meeting Opens in Edinburgh, New Book
>>Launched
>>22 May 2013
>>
>>SCOTLAND - The European Symposium on Porcine Health Management (ESPHM)
>>opens today in Edinburgh, with strong attendance from around 1,000
>>delegates from across Europe and further afield...
>>
>>...This is the fifth conference in the ESPHM series. Scotland's
>>capital was chosen as the location as the Symposium also marks the
>>50th anniversary meeting of the Pig Veterinary Society of Great
>>Britain...
>>
>
>If not, who have you persuaded to ask the questions about the alleged
>"criminal activity", etc.?
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Pat Gardiner
May 23, 2013, 10:22:46 AM5/23/13
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On Thu, 23 May 2013 14:40:48 +0100, Malcolm
<Mal...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>In article <rb3sp857gpcsalljp...@4ax.com>, Pat Gardiner
>I asked you a question. I assume from your response that not only are
>you not in Edinburgh but you haven't persuaded anyone to ask the
>questions about the alleged "criminal activity. If that is the case, why
>on earth did you post that it was the "Right place, right time, right
>people for some questioning" if you knew it wasn't going to happen?
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<Mal...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>In article <rb3sp857gpcsalljp...@4ax.com>, Pat Gardiner
>you not in Edinburgh but you haven't persuaded anyone to ask the
>questions about the alleged "criminal activity. If that is the case, why
>on earth did you post that it was the "Right place, right time, right
>people for some questioning" if you knew it wasn't going to happen?
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Old Codger
May 23, 2013, 3:00:43 PM5/23/13
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On 23/05/2013 10:31, Pat Gardiner wrote:
> Pat's Note: Right place, right time, right people for some questioning
> about the state of British pig health,
Who is doing the questioning Gardiner?
> Pat's Note: Right place, right time, right people for some questioning
> about the state of British pig health,
> and associated criminal activity
What "criminal activity Gardiner?
> including the thirteen year organised harassment of witnesses to Parliament in Westminster and OLAF, the serious fraud squad of the
> EU.
> http://www.thepigsite.com/swinenews/33228/esphm-european-pig-health-meeting-opens-in-edinburgh-new-book-launched
>
> ESPHM: European Pig Health Meeting Opens in Edinburgh, New Book
> Launched
> 22 May 2013
Old Codger
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What matters in politics is not what happens, but what you can make
people believe has happened. [Janet Daley 27/8/2003]
Pat Gardiner
May 23, 2013, 3:20:02 PM5/23/13
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On Thu, 23 May 2013 20:00:43 +0100, Old Codger <m...@privacy.net>
wrote:
>On 23/05/2013 10:31, Pat Gardiner wrote:
>> Pat's Note: Right place, right time, right people for some questioning
>> about the state of British pig health,
>
>Who is doing the questioning Gardiner?
>
>> and associated criminal activity
>
>What "criminal activity Gardiner?
>
>> including the thirteen year organised harassment of witnesses to Parliament in Westminster and OLAF, the serious fraud squad of the
>> EU.
>
>Who are these "witnesses" and who has been harassing them Gardiner?
>
>> http://www.thepigsite.com/swinenews/33228/esphm-european-pig-health-meeting-opens-in-edinburgh-new-book-launched
>>
>> ESPHM: European Pig Health Meeting Opens in Edinburgh, New Book
>> Launched
>> 22 May 2013
Clear harassment by Brian Burgess from Essex as part of a criminal
conspiracy.
This is the stupid branch feeding fabrications produced in Scotland by
Britain's corrupt government veterinarians and their cronies.
Be kind to him. Unpleasant he may be, but he is just being exploited
by others rather cleverer and more devious.
They need the fall guy and he was there ready and waiting.
Im the meantime, the pigs are still very sick and Defra on the run.
wrote:
>On 23/05/2013 10:31, Pat Gardiner wrote:
>> Pat's Note: Right place, right time, right people for some questioning
>> about the state of British pig health,
>
>Who is doing the questioning Gardiner?
>
>> and associated criminal activity
>
>What "criminal activity Gardiner?
>
>> including the thirteen year organised harassment of witnesses to Parliament in Westminster and OLAF, the serious fraud squad of the
>> EU.
>
>Who are these "witnesses" and who has been harassing them Gardiner?
>
>> http://www.thepigsite.com/swinenews/33228/esphm-european-pig-health-meeting-opens-in-edinburgh-new-book-launched
>>
>> ESPHM: European Pig Health Meeting Opens in Edinburgh, New Book
>> Launched
>> 22 May 2013
conspiracy.
This is the stupid branch feeding fabrications produced in Scotland by
Britain's corrupt government veterinarians and their cronies.
Be kind to him. Unpleasant he may be, but he is just being exploited
by others rather cleverer and more devious.
They need the fall guy and he was there ready and waiting.
Im the meantime, the pigs are still very sick and Defra on the run.
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Old Codger
May 23, 2013, 3:58:02 PM5/23/13
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On 23/05/2013 20:20, Pat Gardiner wrote:
> On Thu, 23 May 2013 20:00:43 +0100, Old Codger <m...@privacy.net>
> wrote:
>
>> On 23/05/2013 10:31, Pat Gardiner wrote:
>>> Pat's Note: Right place, right time, right people for some questioning
>>> about the state of British pig health,
>>
>> Who is doing the questioning Gardiner?
>>
>>> and associated criminal activity
>>
>> What "criminal activity Gardiner?
>>
>>> including the thirteen year organised harassment of witnesses to Parliament in Westminster and OLAF, the serious fraud squad of the
>>> EU.
>>
>> Who are these "witnesses" and who has been harassing them Gardiner?
>>
>>> http://www.thepigsite.com/swinenews/33228/esphm-european-pig-health-meeting-opens-in-edinburgh-new-book-launched
>>>
>>> ESPHM: European Pig Health Meeting Opens in Edinburgh, New Book
>>> Launched
>>> 22 May 2013
>
> Clear harassment by Brian Burgess from Essex as part of a criminal
> conspiracy.
Evidence for that statement Gardiner?
> On Thu, 23 May 2013 20:00:43 +0100, Old Codger <m...@privacy.net>
> wrote:
>
>> On 23/05/2013 10:31, Pat Gardiner wrote:
>>> Pat's Note: Right place, right time, right people for some questioning
>>> about the state of British pig health,
>>
>> Who is doing the questioning Gardiner?
>>
>>> and associated criminal activity
>>
>> What "criminal activity Gardiner?
>>
>>> including the thirteen year organised harassment of witnesses to Parliament in Westminster and OLAF, the serious fraud squad of the
>>> EU.
>>
>> Who are these "witnesses" and who has been harassing them Gardiner?
>>
>>> http://www.thepigsite.com/swinenews/33228/esphm-european-pig-health-meeting-opens-in-edinburgh-new-book-launched
>>>
>>> ESPHM: European Pig Health Meeting Opens in Edinburgh, New Book
>>> Launched
>>> 22 May 2013
>
> Clear harassment by Brian Burgess from Essex as part of a criminal
> conspiracy.
> This is the stupid branch feeding fabrications produced in Scotland by
> Britain's corrupt government veterinarians and their cronies.
>
> Be kind to him. Unpleasant he may be, but he is just being exploited
> by others rather cleverer and more devious.
>
> They need the fall guy and he was there ready and waiting.
> Im the meantime, the pigs are still very sick and Defra on the run.
Pat Gardiner
May 23, 2013, 4:12:11 PM5/23/13
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On Thu, 23 May 2013 20:58:02 +0100, Old Codger <m...@privacy.net>
Stop crying. You had many years to come to your senses.
You are all washed up, Brian Burgess, you were the one that spread the
defamations, despite being repeatedly corrected, and on perfectly
respectable companies on your doorstep.
Only a mug fabricates against the public record. How dumb can you get?
Britvic are closing, amongst others, employment the big issue around
you, and you decide to try to rewrite the history of a company
employing hundreds in your back yard, and your fabrications seem to
have been exploited by others.
That is really stupid.
You are all washed up, Brian Burgess, you were the one that spread the
defamations, despite being repeatedly corrected, and on perfectly
respectable companies on your doorstep.
Only a mug fabricates against the public record. How dumb can you get?
Britvic are closing, amongst others, employment the big issue around
you, and you decide to try to rewrite the history of a company
employing hundreds in your back yard, and your fabrications seem to
have been exploited by others.
That is really stupid.
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Old Codger
May 23, 2013, 5:20:12 PM5/23/13
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> You are all washed up, Brian Burgess, you were the one that spread the
> defamations, despite being repeatedly corrected, and on perfectly
> respectable companies on your doorstep.
>
> Only a mug fabricates against the public record. How dumb can you get?
searched out as requested by you. If you don't like the result you
should have done your homework before suggesting that the Companies
House Webcheck would support your claims and that any idiot could do that.
It didn't did it Gardiner?
> Britvic are closing, amongst others, employment the big issue around
> you, and you decide to try to rewrite the history of a company
> employing hundreds in your back yard, and your fabrications seem to
> have been exploited by others.
> That is really stupid.
Of you, yes.
Pat Gardiner
May 23, 2013, 5:33:28 PM5/23/13
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On Thu, 23 May 2013 21:56:43 +0100, Malcolm
<Mal...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>In article <dbtsp81cn5dqktar6...@4ax.com>, Pat Gardiner
><pat.ga...@removeremovelive.co.uk> writes
>It can't be as stupid as you claiming that my "problems with the
>Edinburgh veterinary establishment are just starting". To be followed by
>the even greater stupidity of refusing to answer my question, which was
>entirely reasonable under the circumstances, asking you to explain what
>you meant by that claim or to produce some evidence for it, or to
>withdraw it and apologise.
>
>Now *that* was *really* stupid, wasn't it, Pat?
>
>This has been a perfect example of how you have gone about your
>13-year-old campaign of making wild and unsubstantiated claims and then
>refusing, when asked to justify them or to produce the evidence, to do
>any such thing, turning instead to lies, defamation, bullying and
>threatening anyone dared to question you.
>
>Now that, from someone who appeared to want to engage the authorities to
>investigate what you *claimed* was criminal activitiy was
>mind-bogglingly stupid. Why should anyone or any authority pay any
>attention to someone who has behaved as you have for the last 13 years?
>
>Would you not think it reasonable for them to shake their heads and just
>say: "Oh, it's that stupid Gardiner again"?
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<Mal...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>In article <dbtsp81cn5dqktar6...@4ax.com>, Pat Gardiner
><pat.ga...@removeremovelive.co.uk> writes
>Edinburgh veterinary establishment are just starting". To be followed by
>the even greater stupidity of refusing to answer my question, which was
>entirely reasonable under the circumstances, asking you to explain what
>you meant by that claim or to produce some evidence for it, or to
>withdraw it and apologise.
>
>Now *that* was *really* stupid, wasn't it, Pat?
>
>This has been a perfect example of how you have gone about your
>13-year-old campaign of making wild and unsubstantiated claims and then
>refusing, when asked to justify them or to produce the evidence, to do
>any such thing, turning instead to lies, defamation, bullying and
>threatening anyone dared to question you.
>
>Now that, from someone who appeared to want to engage the authorities to
>investigate what you *claimed* was criminal activitiy was
>mind-bogglingly stupid. Why should anyone or any authority pay any
>attention to someone who has behaved as you have for the last 13 years?
>
>Would you not think it reasonable for them to shake their heads and just
>say: "Oh, it's that stupid Gardiner again"?
Harassment noted (390) for lawyer's use.
Pat Gardiner
May 23, 2013, 6:07:53 PM5/23/13
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On Thu, 23 May 2013 22:20:12 +0100, Old Codger <m...@privacy.net>
You lied you head off, year on year, despite being repeatedly
corrected, and in the most offensive way you could devise.
It's not a matter of opinion but a matter of fact.
Now you have to look to Defra's hopelessly corrupt veterinarians to
protect you.
Good Luck!
Actually, I'm probably the only one that might offer you some measure
of protection and you are not doing too well cultivating me.
corrected, and in the most offensive way you could devise.
It's not a matter of opinion but a matter of fact.
Now you have to look to Defra's hopelessly corrupt veterinarians to
protect you.
Good Luck!
Actually, I'm probably the only one that might offer you some measure
of protection and you are not doing too well cultivating me.
Old Codger
May 23, 2013, 6:33:05 PM5/23/13
to
You said any fool could confirm your claims in 5 minutes using the
Companies House webcheck.
I posted the results. They did not confirm your claims.
Do you wish me to repost all that guff Gardiner?
> Now you have to look to Defra's hopelessly corrupt veterinarians to
> protect you.
> Good Luck!
>
> Actually, I'm probably the only one that might offer you some measure
> of protection and you are not doing too well cultivating me.
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Pat Gardiner
May 24, 2013, 4:36:57 AM5/24/13
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On Fri, 24 May 2013 08:19:47 +0100, Malcolm
<Mal...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>In article <aeqsp8hiunc1jhl78...@4ax.com>, Pat Gardiner
><pat.ga...@removeremovelive.co.uk> writes
>able to back that accusation with actual proof, otherwise it is a clear
>case of defamation. I know that is one of your specialities, but you
>seem to be flailing around more and more in your endeavours to invoke
>conspiracies about this, that and the other.
>Britain's vets. Now there's not a surprise.
>
>There you have it, dear readers, Pat Gardiner in full flow.
>
>Is he ill, do you think?
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<Mal...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>In article <aeqsp8hiunc1jhl78...@4ax.com>, Pat Gardiner
><pat.ga...@removeremovelive.co.uk> writes
>>On Thu, 23 May 2013 20:00:43 +0100, Old Codger <m...@privacy.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On 23/05/2013 10:31, Pat Gardiner wrote:
>>>> Pat's Note: Right place, right time, right people for some questioning
>>>> about the state of British pig health,
>>>
>>>Who is doing the questioning Gardiner?
>>>
>>>> and associated criminal activity
>>>
>>>What "criminal activity Gardiner?
>>>
>>>> including the thirteen year organised harassment of witnesses to
>>>>Parliament in Westminster and OLAF, the serious fraud squad of the
>>>> EU.
>>>
>>>Who are these "witnesses" and who has been harassing them Gardiner?
>>>
>>>>
>>>>http://www.thepigsite.com/swinenews/33228/esphm-european-pig-health-me
>>>>eting-opens-in-edinburgh-new-book-launched
>>>>
>>>> ESPHM: European Pig Health Meeting Opens in Edinburgh, New Book
>>>> Launched
>>>> 22 May 2013
>>
>>Clear harassment by Brian Burgess from Essex as part of a criminal
>>conspiracy.
>>
>If you are accusing someone of "criminal conspiracy", you have to be
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On 23/05/2013 10:31, Pat Gardiner wrote:
>>>> Pat's Note: Right place, right time, right people for some questioning
>>>> about the state of British pig health,
>>>
>>>Who is doing the questioning Gardiner?
>>>
>>>> and associated criminal activity
>>>
>>>What "criminal activity Gardiner?
>>>
>>>> including the thirteen year organised harassment of witnesses to
>>>>Parliament in Westminster and OLAF, the serious fraud squad of the
>>>> EU.
>>>
>>>Who are these "witnesses" and who has been harassing them Gardiner?
>>>
>>>>
>>>>http://www.thepigsite.com/swinenews/33228/esphm-european-pig-health-me
>>>>eting-opens-in-edinburgh-new-book-launched
>>>>
>>>> ESPHM: European Pig Health Meeting Opens in Edinburgh, New Book
>>>> Launched
>>>> 22 May 2013
>>
>>Clear harassment by Brian Burgess from Essex as part of a criminal
>>conspiracy.
>>
>able to back that accusation with actual proof, otherwise it is a clear
>case of defamation. I know that is one of your specialities, but you
>seem to be flailing around more and more in your endeavours to invoke
>conspiracies about this, that and the other.
>
>>This is the stupid branch feeding fabrications produced in Scotland by
>>Britain's corrupt government veterinarians and their cronies.
>>
>And now, of course, you continue your long-running campaign of defaming
>>This is the stupid branch feeding fabrications produced in Scotland by
>>Britain's corrupt government veterinarians and their cronies.
>>
>Britain's vets. Now there's not a surprise.
>
>>Be kind to him. Unpleasant he may be, but he is just being exploited
>>by others rather cleverer and more devious.
>>
>>They need the fall guy and he was there ready and waiting.
>>
>>Im the meantime, the pigs are still very sick and Defra on the run.
>>
>And you end with three sentences of gibberish.
>>Be kind to him. Unpleasant he may be, but he is just being exploited
>>by others rather cleverer and more devious.
>>
>>They need the fall guy and he was there ready and waiting.
>>
>>Im the meantime, the pigs are still very sick and Defra on the run.
>>
>
>There you have it, dear readers, Pat Gardiner in full flow.
>
>Is he ill, do you think?
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Pat Gardiner
May 24, 2013, 6:19:23 AM5/24/13
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On Fri, 24 May 2013 11:12:10 +0100, Malcolm
<Mal...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>In article <bk9up8te2omhhq7tn...@4ax.com>, Pat Gardiner
>It's not 391, but whenever did you bother with accurate facts?
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<Mal...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>In article <bk9up8te2omhhq7tn...@4ax.com>, Pat Gardiner
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