BAD Trader: Andi Lam
Alex Cotgreave
However this guy has really hit a nerve.
I paid £40.00 into his account from my HSBC account Sunday night on the
understanding that he sent me a 6210 on Monday am.
In his e-mail to me he said he would.
Nothing arrived at work today except an email saying that he had not
recieved the monies.
I instantly provided proof that I had indeed sent the monies to him by way
of sending him the screen grab of my bank statement showing CLEARLY the
money has gone.
POINT 1: HE DID NOT SEND THE PHONE.
Subsequently he hes e-mailed me saying he is happy to refund the monies to
me.
POINT 2: HE HAS NOT
He has now said he wants to send the phone to me.
I have emailed back saying that I do not now want the phone and want a
refund or I will involve the authorities as I have been ripped off too many
times now to let it lie.
POINT 3: HE HAS E-MAILED ME THEATENING ME SAYING HE WILL SEND THE PHONE AND
THAT I SHOULD TAKE IT UP WITH TRADING STANDARDS.
I have done everything 'by the book' and have trusted him.
COMMENTS?
ك ط ® G
<NOs...@Nospam.com> wrote:
>I am loathed to say anything bad about anyone.
>
>However this guy has really hit a nerve.
>
>I paid £40.00 into his account from my HSBC account Sunday night on the
>understanding that he sent me a 6210 on Monday am.
>
it can take up to 3 days for a bank transfer to show in the account,
the only instant way is to walk into their bank branch thats local to
you and deposit cash
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Alex Cotgreave
He said he would send MON AM
I sent proof of deposit
He did not send phone
"ß Ø ® G" <bo...@deadspam.com> wrote in message
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Paulo De Souza
> HSBC say that it is an instant deposit.
>
> He said he would send MON AM
>
> I sent proof of deposit
>
> He did not send phone
I sold a P800 to someone via the sameway. A screen grab can easyly be faked.
Also i would like to point out it isnt instant if its across to another
bank. The person who payed me did it on a sunday night and it only arived
into my account on a wed/thrus!!
You were going on the fact that the phone wuld be sent on monday and he was
going on the fact the money would be there instantly. I wouldnt send u the
phone specialy int he way that your not so understanding. Would u send me
one if i sed i payed via an instant method but it dint turn up on your end?
Paulo
Alex Cotgreave
As I have said before HE AGREED TO POST MONDAY AM, HE DID NOT.
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ك ط ® G
<NOs...@Nospam.com> wrote:
>HSBC say that it is an instant deposit.
don't mean it is, it has to go through a holding account first then to
the other banks system then on to the users bank, it can take 3 days
sometimes more if it's bank to building society
If its the same company to company transfer maybe it's 'Instant'
Alex Cotgreave
ok alex I will send it in the morning
thanx
andi
----- Original Message -----
From: Alex Cotgreave
To: andi lam
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: 6210
no worries but i would still like it sent. my daytime email is
acotg...@axiscentre.com so if you check tomorrow am you will see it is in.
if you cannot send tomorrow then please just refund the money to me.
i have good references on the ng and dont mess people around and i would
like the same in return
alex
----- Original Message -----
From: andi lam
To: Alex Cotgreave
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: 6210
the money wwont show up in my account till tmr
----- Original Message -----
From: Alex Cotgreave
To: andi lam
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: 6210
paid now!!
Please send recorded/special delivery to:@
alex cotgreave
c/o axis centre
broxtowe college
middle st business centre
10 middle st
beeston
nottingham
ng9 1fx
please make sure of arrival tuesday this coming week please
alex
----- Original Message -----
From: andi lam
To: Alex Cotgreave
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: 6210
ok
bank : Halifax
account name : Mr A W Lam
sort code : 11-07-38
account number : 01181124
thanks
andi
p.s. please email me when u have done then transfer
----- Original Message -----
From: Alex Cotgreave
To: andi lam
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: 6210
online
----- Original Message -----
From: andi lam
To: Alex Cotgreave
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: 6210
will u go in to a halifax and pay it in or tranfer it online?
----- Original Message -----
From: Alex Cotgreave
To: andi lam
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: 6210
give me the bank acct details as fastpay will not let me pay
in £40.00.......
----- Original Message -----
From: andi lam
To: Alex Cotgreave
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 8:53 PM
Subject: Re: 6210
the phone is not blocked and I have the full box and manual
with cd etc. My fastpay account email is sum...@hotmail.com
hear from you soon
regards
andi
----- Original Message -----
From: Alex Cotgreave
To: andi...@gizmostore.co.uk
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 8:47 PM
Subject: Re: 6210
whats your fastpay acct thingie?
BTW I presume the fone is not blocked?
and is boxed etc etc?
----- Original Message -----
From: andi lam
To: al...@hangus78.plus.com
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: 6210
u can pay money directly into my halifax account if u
want?
>i will have a look at fastpay, or can i do a bank
transfer?
>
>Alex
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: andi lam
> To: Alex Cotgreave
> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 8:39 PM
> Subject: Re: 6210
>
>
> I dont use paypal or nochex, u can send me postal
orders via the post.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alex Cotgreave
> To: andi lam
> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 8:17 PM
> Subject: Re: 6210
>
>
> fastpay? i have nochex and paypal
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: andi lam
> To: Alex Cotgreave
> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 7:58 PM
> Subject: Re: 6210
>
>
> hows about fastpay and I will send the phone via royal
mail next day special delivery is that ok?
>
> thanks
>
> andi
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alex Cotgreave
> To: andi lam
> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 7:38 PM
> Subject: Re: 6210
>
>
> how do you want payment?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: andi lam
> To: Alex Cotgreave
> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 6:25 PM
> Subject: Re: 6210
>
>
> so no pics but the phone is 3 years olld but in
perfect condition, u wounld think its only a couple of months old.
>
> andi
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alex Cotgreave
> To: andi lam
> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 6:13 PM
> Subject: Re: 6210
>
>
> what nick is it matey, got any fotos?
>
> speak to you soon
>
> alex
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: andi lam
> To: Alex Cotgreave
> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 3:21 PM
> Subject: Re: 6210
>
>
> yes it is unloocked and works on all networks
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alex Cotgreave
> To: andi lam
> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 2:35 PM
> Subject: Re: 6210
>
>
> ok mate well do that, it is unlocked yes?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: andi lam
> To: Alex Cotgreave
> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 8:52 AM
> Subject: Re: 6210
>
>
> no a fan of siemans sorry
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alex Cotgreave
> To: andi lam
> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 8:06 AM
> Subject: Re: 6210
>
>
> Hi Andi
>
> I have an sl42 upgraded to sl45i software if
interested? comes in box with data lead.
>
> Will possibly need a new case in near future as
sctatched.
>
> Let me know
>
> Alex
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: andi lam
> To: al...@hangus78.plus.com
> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2003 9:35 PM
> Subject: 6210
>
>
> I have the box, manual, charger and CD with it. the
phone is on all
> networks and in perfect condition. the phone is yours
for £40 inc P&P or a trade
>
> Regards
>
> Andi
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Paulo De Souza
Did you say to him the money would be in his account on Monday morning?
Would you send me a phone if I said the payment was instant but it wasn't
there the next day?
Is that clear enough for you?
Paulo
andi lam
"Alex Cotgreave" <NOs...@Nospam.com> wrote in message
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> I am loathed to say anything bad about anyone.
>
> However this guy has really hit a nerve.
>
> I paid £40.00 into his account from my HSBC account Sunday night on the
> understanding that he sent me a 6210 on Monday am.
I said I would send the phone as soon as I recieved the monies in to my
account and have confirmation from my bank that a transfer has been
tranacted, which can take up to 3 days..
>
> In his e-mail to me he said he would.
>
> Nothing arrived at work today except an email saying that he had not
> recieved the monies.
>
> I instantly provided proof that I had indeed sent the monies to him by way
> of sending him the screen grab of my bank statement showing CLEARLY the
> money has gone.
>
> POINT 1: HE DID NOT SEND THE PHONE.
>
> Subsequently he hes e-mailed me saying he is happy to refund the monies to
> me.
you can refund money which has not been recieved
>
> POINT 2: HE HAS NOT
>
> He has now said he wants to send the phone to me.
>
> I have emailed back saying that I do not now want the phone and want a
> refund or I will involve the authorities as I have been ripped off too
many
> times now to let it lie.
>
hey buying of a ng is buying goods as described. The fone is in fully
working order and ready to be sent on recipt of payment. if u was to
involve the authorities, I could count claim that your transaction is a
attempted fraud aka To obtain goods via deception.
> POINT 3: HE HAS E-MAILED ME THEATENING ME SAYING HE WILL SEND THE PHONE
AND
> THAT I SHOULD TAKE IT UP WITH TRADING STANDARDS.
>
> I have done everything 'by the book' and have trusted him.
that my replay
> COMMENTS?
Alex Cotgreave
HSBC say it left my acct Sun evening and went straight to his acct. I
checked by phone Sun evening and Mon. am too.
Alex
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ك ط ® G
<NOs...@Nospam.com> wrote:
>Hey borg,
>
>HSBC say it left my acct Sun evening and went straight to his acct. I
>checked by phone Sun evening and Mon. am too.
yer but that don't mean his bank has processed it and its showing on
his on line statement, think how lok=ng it takes a paypal amount to
show o your statement and thats instant as well
Webmaster
> I am loathed to say anything bad about anyone.
>
> However this guy has really hit a nerve.
>
> understanding that he sent me a 6210 on Monday am.
If he doesn'r bank with HSBC it will take 3 working days (ie Wednesday) to
reach his account.
> POINT 3: HE HAS E-MAILED ME THEATENING ME SAYING HE WILL SEND THE PHONE AND
> THAT I SHOULD TAKE IT UP WITH TRADING STANDARDS.
Trading standards? For a private sale? I think they would laugh.
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Webmaster
> HSBC say that it is an instant deposit.
Unless the other person uses HSBC aswell it takes at least 3 working days.
Webmaster
> HSBC say it left my acct Sun evening and went straight to his acct. I
> checked by phone Sun evening and Mon. am too.
HSBC are wrong! Unless you are transferring to another HSBC account it
takes at least 3 working days!
Paulo De Souza
>
> HSBC say it left my acct Sun evening and went straight to his acct. I
> checked by phone Sun evening and Mon. am too.
>
> Alex
Ok how do HSBC check the money has appeared into his account when its not a
HSBC one? Even if it was im sure wouldnt be allowed to give that
information out.
Paulo
Alex Cotgreave
give mine out, that's for sure.
Regards
ALEX COTGREAVE and NICHOLA COTGREAVE-KEATES
47 ROYAL VICTORIA COURT
GAMBLE STREET
NOTTINGHAM
NG7 4ET
Made-up double barrelled surnamed wife / girlfriend / slapper. How
pretentious.
If you think I am an arsehole, mail me!
Alex Cotgreave
but he has refused to send it insisiting i 'chill out' about it.
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andi lam
wife is nothing to do with this mater. let me say sorry on behalf of the
poster!
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nigel. carron
<NOs...@Nospam.com> writes
>
>HSBC say it left my acct Sun evening and went straight to his acct. I
>checked by phone Sun evening and Mon. am too.
Unless he banks with hsbc thats rubbish!
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nigel. carron
<NOs...@Nospam.com> writes
>Can you write in English please I do not understand Text Speak.
You are a plank?
Toby Groves
<NOs...@Nospam.com> writes
>HSBC say that it is an instant deposit.
Only to another HSBC account, and banks have their own definition of
"instant" anyway.
>He said he would send MON AM
Providing you got the money to him, which you didn't
>I sent proof of deposit
No you didn't, you sent a screenshot which could easily have been
forged.
>He did not send phone
Neither would I have done had the money not been cleared and in my
account.
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