BAD TRADER :ANDI LAM
Alex Cotgreave
However this guy has really hit a nerve.
I paid £40.00 into his account from my HSBC account Sunday night on the
understanding that he sent me a 6210 on Monday am.
In his e-mail to me he said he would.
Nothing arrived at work today except an email saying that he had not
recieved the monies.
I instantly provided proof that I had indeed sent the monies to him by way
of sending him the screen grab of my bank statement showing CLEARLY the
money has gone.
POINT 1: HE DID NOT SEND THE PHONE.
Subsequently he hes e-mailed me saying he is happy to refund the monies to
me.
POINT 2: HE HAS NOT
He has now said he wants to send the phone to me.
I have emailed back saying that I do not now want the phone and want a
refund or I will involve the authorities as I have been ripped off too many
times now to let it lie.
POINT 3: HE HAS E-MAILED ME THEATENING ME SAYING HE WILL SEND THE PHONE AND
THAT I SHOULD TAKE IT UP WITH TRADING STANDARDS.
I have done everything 'by the book' and have trusted him.
COMMENTS?
Paulo De Souza
> I have done everything 'by the book' and have trusted him.
No u havent the money isnt confirmed in his account! He also came in here to
ask for peoples opinion on to send the phone on or not! And not to say u
were a bad trader for not sending the money! So grow up and learn to wait!
> COMMENTS?
Your the bad trader and STOP SPAMMING THE GROUP WITH THIS CRAP OVRE AND OVER
AGAIN!
Alex Cotgreave
I reposted. Apologies.
As for the other comment please read the story before posting those sort of
comments.
I have the evidence including the e-mail stating the goods would be posted
Monday.
I am not at fault here.
"Paulo De Souza" <Paul...@blueyonder.co.ukSPAMMAPS> wrote in message
news:qokeb.173534$B%2.1...@news-lhr.blueyonder.co.uk...
Paulo De Souza
so
> I reposted. Apologies.
>
> As for the other comment please read the story before posting those sort
of
> comments.
>
> I have the evidence including the e-mail stating the goods would be posted
> Monday.
>
> I am not at fault here.
Dint you tell him the money would be there instantly???
If so then your part of the bargain isnt been carried out..
Paulo
Alex Cotgreave
ok alex I will send it in the morning
thanx
andi
----- Original Message -----
From: Alex Cotgreave
To: andi lam
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: 6210
no worries but i would still like it sent. my daytime email is
acotg...@axiscentre.com so if you check tomorrow am you will see it is in.
if you cannot send tomorrow then please just refund the money to me.
i have good references on the ng and dont mess people around and i would
like the same in return
alex
----- Original Message -----
From: andi lam
To: Alex Cotgreave
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: 6210
the money wwont show up in my account till tmr
----- Original Message -----
From: Alex Cotgreave
To: andi lam
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: 6210
paid now!!
Please send recorded/special delivery to:@
alex cotgreave
c/o axis centre
broxtowe college
middle st business centre
10 middle st
beeston
nottingham
ng9 1fx
please make sure of arrival tuesday this coming week please
alex
----- Original Message -----
From: andi lam
To: Alex Cotgreave
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: 6210
ok
bank : Halifax
account name : Mr A W Lam
sort code : 11-07-38
account number : 01181124
thanks
andi
p.s. please email me when u have done then transfer
----- Original Message -----
From: Alex Cotgreave
To: andi lam
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: 6210
online
----- Original Message -----
From: andi lam
To: Alex Cotgreave
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: 6210
will u go in to a halifax and pay it in or tranfer it online?
----- Original Message -----
From: Alex Cotgreave
To: andi lam
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: 6210
give me the bank acct details as fastpay will not let me pay
in £40.00.......
----- Original Message -----
From: andi lam
To: Alex Cotgreave
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 8:53 PM
Subject: Re: 6210
the phone is not blocked and I have the full box and manual
with cd etc. My fastpay account email is sum...@hotmail.com
hear from you soon
regards
andi
----- Original Message -----
From: Alex Cotgreave
To: andi...@gizmostore.co.uk
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 8:47 PM
Subject: Re: 6210
whats your fastpay acct thingie?
BTW I presume the fone is not blocked?
and is boxed etc etc?
----- Original Message -----
From: andi lam
To: al...@hangus78.plus.com
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: 6210
u can pay money directly into my halifax account if u
want?
>i will have a look at fastpay, or can i do a bank
transfer?
>
>Alex
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: andi lam
> To: Alex Cotgreave
> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 8:39 PM
> Subject: Re: 6210
>
>
> I dont use paypal or nochex, u can send me postal
orders via the post.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alex Cotgreave
> To: andi lam
> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 8:17 PM
> Subject: Re: 6210
>
>
> fastpay? i have nochex and paypal
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: andi lam
> To: Alex Cotgreave
> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 7:58 PM
> Subject: Re: 6210
>
>
> hows about fastpay and I will send the phone via royal
mail next day special delivery is that ok?
>
> thanks
>
> andi
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alex Cotgreave
> To: andi lam
> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 7:38 PM
> Subject: Re: 6210
>
>
> how do you want payment?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: andi lam
> To: Alex Cotgreave
> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 6:25 PM
> Subject: Re: 6210
>
>
> so no pics but the phone is 3 years olld but in
perfect condition, u wounld think its only a couple of months old.
>
> andi
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alex Cotgreave
> To: andi lam
> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 6:13 PM
> Subject: Re: 6210
>
>
> what nick is it matey, got any fotos?
>
> speak to you soon
>
> alex
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: andi lam
> To: Alex Cotgreave
> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 3:21 PM
> Subject: Re: 6210
>
>
> yes it is unloocked and works on all networks
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alex Cotgreave
> To: andi lam
> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 2:35 PM
> Subject: Re: 6210
>
>
> ok mate well do that, it is unlocked yes?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: andi lam
> To: Alex Cotgreave
> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 8:52 AM
> Subject: Re: 6210
>
>
> no a fan of siemans sorry
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alex Cotgreave
> To: andi lam
> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 8:06 AM
> Subject: Re: 6210
>
>
> Hi Andi
>
> I have an sl42 upgraded to sl45i software if
interested? comes in box with data lead.
>
> Will possibly need a new case in near future as
sctatched.
>
> Let me know
>
> Alex
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: andi lam
> To: al...@hangus78.plus.com
> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2003 9:35 PM
> Subject: 6210
>
>
> I have the box, manual, charger and CD with it. the
phone is on all
> networks and in perfect condition. the phone is yours
for £40 inc P&P or a trade
>
> Regards
>
> Andi
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Start downloading music from 62p per track
Paulo De Souza
You dont post someones e-mail unmasked in usenet and you dont post their
bank details either!
Im sure NO ONE Will deal with you now.
Paulo
Paulo De Souza
From: Alex Cotgreave
no worries but i would still like it sent. my daytime email is
@axiscentre.com so if you check tomorrow am you will see it is in.
From: andi lam
the money wwont show up in my account till tmr
____________________________________________________________
Both you and him think that the money will be there on monday morning. Now
If he were to not find the money there i would think you dint pay or it
takes more then one day. IF he were to refund you the money that wasnt there
via bank transfer it would also take at least 3 days...
So whatever you do you wont see the money for the next 3 days and he might
be out of cash if you dint pay him...
So the way i see it is you can wait a few days after now knowing that it can
take 3-5 days for the money to appear. If then you are unhappy ask for a
refund. I also hope he refunds you via online transfer so you can wait
another 3-5 days.... :-)
Paulo
eggster2k
i agree, alex you are a dickhead!!
Alex Cotgreave
in and out of may account and each time the monies have appeared instantly.
Before you all judge me please read the transcript of all the e-mails
attached.
"Paulo De Souza" <Paul...@blueyonder.co.ukSPAMMAPS> wrote in message
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me thinks he was up for a shag but didn't have a phone for her to ring
him on :)
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> if only.........
> "ك ط ® G" <bo...@deadspam.com> wrote in message
> news:q6ojnvs9s5joo2r3l...@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:44:07 +0100, eggster2k
>> <eggs...@nospambreathe.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:38:33 GMT, "Paulo De Souza"
>>> <Paul...@blueyonder.co.ukSPAMMAPS> wrote:
>>>
>>>> YOUR A FUCKING UTTER DICKHEAD!
>>>>
>>>> You dont post someones e-mail unmasked in usenet and you dont post
>>>> their bank details either!
>>>>
>>>> Im sure NO ONE Will deal with you now.
>>>> Paulo
>>>>
>>>
>>> i agree, alex you are a dickhead!!
>>
>>
>>
>> me thinks he was up for a shag but didn't have a phone for her to
>> ring him on :)
Think we should get this in perspective and not have umpteen posters simply
swearing. You transferred from your HSBC account, but it will only show up
instantly if he's with a HSBC group bank as well. Otherwise it will be 2-3
working days. So who does he bank with?
Secondly, it must be said I'm behind you at the moment on this one, as I was
going to buy this phone off him. Then I realise he's posted saying it's been
sold; not so much as an email to me. Fair enough if he can get the money
quicker from you, fair play but some common decency would be nice...
Ste
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Toby Groves
<NOs...@Nospam.com> writes
>I told him this as I have done several transactions using HSBC both ways i.e
>in and out of may account and each time the monies have appeared instantly.
Only of the other party is using HSBC or First Direct, otherwise it
takes a few days.
Only other way to get money transferred instantly is to pay cash into a
branch of their bank.
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Toby
Toby Groves
<in...@bridesdreams.co.uk> writes
>What the HELL you doing sending out ppls bank details. You are very much in
>the wrong.
And after nearly a week he still can't be assed to even concede that and
cancel the post with the offending details in.
Fuckwit.
--
Toby