Re: [uk-hack-camp] OT hackers

[alex]

Sorry, can't resist pointing out that the "original hackers" at MIT were white, male, privileged trainset obsessives making wargames under the auspices of military funding while their contemporaries campaigned against the Veitnam war. Not so romantic really.

The European hacker scene is a fine thing though, lets carry on building on that. :)

alex

On Jun 12, 2012 11:08 AM, "Jake Howe" <ho...@dr.com> wrote:

'A summer festival for Makers and Hackers'

Using both the words Makers and Hackers covers pretty much every end of the spectrum. Also having the work 'Maker' in there is enough to make people question the intent of the word Hacker.

As an aside, we should NOT be prancing around trying to avoid using the word Hacker, we should be grabbing the word and making it mean what it originally meant. Educate the world to what it really is. A good example is that Steve Woz was a Hacker in the traditional sense, except he was making computers, not breaking into peoples bank accounts.

Jake

On 12 Jun 2012, at 00:05, Elger Jonker wrote:

> Haha. That remark strikes me as a speech against our undefined
> non-human overlords.
>
> For me this thread is to have fun an think of ridiculous tag lines,
> even though i have much better things to do.
>
> Camp op Champions.
>
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Aden <ad...@aden.org.uk> wrote:
>> why not "A summer festival for hackers".... "makers" excludes hackers
>> that don't make anything.
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Martin Dittus <dek...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Funnily enough, the one I'm probably going to go for is: "A summer festival for makers."
>>>
>>> :)
>>>
>>> m.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11 Jun 2012, at 18:48, MSRaynsford wrote:
>>>
>>>> A festival for Makers or a Makers Festival
>>>>
>>>> Because film festivals and Jazz festivals don't have those
>>>> connotations of drunken masses and muddy mosh pits, everyone knows
>>>> what a festival is it's only when you add music onto the front people
>>>> think about those other things.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 3, 1:20 pm, Martin Dittus <deks...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> In some of our current promo materials we use the tagline "A cross between a tech conference and a music festival". We decided we would like to change the latter part, because while we do want to encourage lots of musical contributions the term "music festival" may have some misleading connotations (e.g. for me: drunken/drugged masses in muddy mosh pits.) Plus we don't want people to come for a music festival and not be interested in what we consider the core of it all: a great social gathering of DIY/hacker/maker communities.
>>>>>
>>>>> Got suggestions for alternatives?
>>>>>
>>>>> On IRC just now we came up with:
>>>>>  "a cross between a community meetup and a camping festival"
>>>>> "A community camping trip"
>>>>> "a maker community in a field"
>>>>> "a tent city of makers, in a field"
>>>>> "a splendid gathering of DIY/hacker/maker communities"
>>>>>
>>>>> …?
>>>>>
>>>>> m.
>>>